1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Seven Gamers 1 CPU, which you can check out over here, was one of the most 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:09,280 successful videos in every way that I 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:13,559 have ever made. So, I determined almost immediately that I had to follow it up 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:19,800 somehow. But one of the biggest criticisms of Seven Gamers was that it 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:23,359 was kind of overthe-top and 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,519 impractical. So, in working on a sequel, 7 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:31,039 I called up a friend of mine for some advice. Hey. Yeah, 8 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:32,800 Mikey, you've got experience with 9 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:39,840 dealing with negative feedback about your over-the-top style. How would you 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:44,850 respond? And that, my friends, is how 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:53,360 eight gamers, one CPU was born. 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Tunnel Bear is the easy to use VPN service that lets you use the web as 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,920 though you're in one of 20 different countries. Learn more and try Tunnel 14 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:09,200 Bear for free at the link in the video description. Okay, but for real, the 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:12,400 objectives of eight gamers were several. 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:15,360 One, I did want to outdo the original 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:21,840 project. Two, I wanted the machine to have some kind of practical application. 18 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:25,040 If not today, then at some point in the 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:29,439 future, and three, I wanted the hardware 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:32,400 to actually behave predictably in this 21 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:38,000 kind of a use case. Between the WS board and the R9 Nanos, that last machine was 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:43,200 a nightmare. I'm fairly certain I was the first person and only including ASUS 23 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:49,520 R&D to ever try seven cards in that board at a time. So the recipe started 24 00:01:46,399 --> 00:01:52,079 as it always seems to with Intel inside. 25 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:58,320 For months leading up to the release, I had been harassing my contacts, all of 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,560 them, about availability of 22 core 27 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Broadwell EP 2699 V4 processors so that 28 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:09,759 I could pack 44 cores. That is 88 29 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,080 threads of CPU power into this monster. 30 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:17,440 And they came through. And for that matter, so did Kingston with eight 32 31 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:20,319 gig sticks of quad channel ECC DDR4 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:27,280 server memory along with a bunch of 1 TBTE SSDs that I divvied up into 16 gigs 33 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,840 of RAM and 1 TBTE worth of space for 34 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:34,959 each of my VMs with actually about 100 gigs of RAM left over for Unrade. 35 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:40,560 Because yes, my friends, Unrade is returning for more virtualized gaming 36 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:45,120 action. Now, some folks have asked why I continue to use Unrade for these 37 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:50,920 projects instead of something like KVM from Red Hat or VMware. Well, there are 38 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:55,200 a few reasons. One, Unra uses 39 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:57,519 KVM. It's open source. Two, it handles 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:02,400 GPU pass through, which is important for the impressive near bare metal 41 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:08,560 performance in gaming applications that we measured in this video really, really 42 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,959 well. And three, it's pulled safe 43 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:15,200 storage is an easy way to manage data across multiple VMs. And I've got 44 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:20,159 another clever trick to show you guys this time, too. All right, so that's all 45 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:24,239 fine and good and very similar to last time. So, what's the difference then, 46 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Lionus? Well, first up is the Super Micro SYS 4028 47 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:37,040 GR-TRT, a dual LGA 20113 Zeon 24 memory 48 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:40,159 slot, 24 SSD slot, barebone server 49 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,799 designed for high computational density 50 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:50,640 applications like scientific research and simulation. functionality is enabled 51 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:52,640 by its 11 PCI Express 16X slots, eight 52 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:59,159 of which are advertised as being ready for a graphics card or compute card like 53 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:02,080 a Zeon Fi or NVIDIA Tesla. Though 54 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:08,640 perhaps more than eight is possible with some extra power cables running from its 55 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:10,799 four redundant 1,000 W power supplies. 56 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:15,760 More on that later. The other main difference is in the graphics cards. 57 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:21,120 Thanks to AMD's half-ass relinquishing of hardware resources, when you soft 58 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:24,400 reset a system, the entire host last 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,199 time needed to be shut down every time I 60 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:32,240 had to reset a single VM for a driver installation or a crash or whatever 61 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:34,880 else. So, I cried about my sad story to 62 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:40,479 Zotac, and they not only ponyied up eight of their top-of-the-line GTX 980 63 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Ti AMP video cards to ensure that each of my gamers would have a perfect gaming 64 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:50,000 experience, but they also contributed the thin clients that I needed for this 65 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:56,080 very different implementation. for each of their Zbox B series and C 66 00:04:53,199 --> 00:05:00,560 series with low power Intel processors. We've actually covered Zotac's wide 67 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:06,080 variety of quiet, sometimes shockingly powerful mini PCs in the past. And 68 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:11,199 combining these with some HyperX sodium memory modules and 240 gig SSDs from 69 00:05:08,479 --> 00:05:19,120 Kingston, we had some awesome client boxes to hook up the gorgeous 27 in IPS 70 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:22,199 4K 27 UD 888 Freync gaming monitors that 71 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:26,160 LG provided. Because eight gamers, one 72 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:28,160 CPU is all about my vision for a 73 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:32,400 high-tech household in the future. Something I've talked about before on 74 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:38,560 the WAN Show, a high-powered machine in the closet that can allocate, preferably 75 00:05:35,479 --> 00:05:41,039 dynamically, computing power, gaming, or 76 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:46,240 even otherwise to wherever it's needed. A TV or projector, as many desktops or 77 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:52,000 laptops spread throughout the building as needed, or even a handheld device 78 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,440 like an NVIDIA Shield portable. I wanted 79 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,639 effectively to build my own NVIDIA grid, 80 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,600 but with consumer GPUs and using Valve's 81 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:06,800 Steam inhome streaming to serve to all my clients. Not something they had in 82 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,440 mind for it, I'm sure. So, let's talk then about the setup process. Was it 83 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:15,840 actually simpler? Well, the hardware was less 84 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:19,840 flaky this time, which means that this hypers speed setup guide for Unrade that 85 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:24,800 you guys are looking at went much smoother. Copy files to USB drive. Make 86 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:28,160 drive bootable. Assign SSDs to cache for high-speed OS and game drives. Assign 87 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:32,720 larger drives to the array for mass storage. Create VMs. Share storage 88 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:40,319 between the VMs. Which Whoa, slow down there, John. Kingston sent us like 10 of 89 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:43,440 their SSDs for this. And you just shared 90 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:46,080 data between virtual discs at the time 91 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:54,919 of creation. So on a single terabyte of storage, you could have 10 VMs each with 92 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:58,720 200 gigs of Windows, games, other base 93 00:06:54,919 --> 00:07:01,759 applications and 100 gigs each of 94 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,199 dedicated storage. Very efficient. 95 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:09,639 Hopefully that feature makes it into the web gooey at some point. So all of that 96 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:12,479 was fine then. But the disadvantage to 97 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:16,080 aworked solution like this is that while in theory you can manage the entire 98 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:21,120 setup from a single terminal somewhere else in the building. In practice, 99 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,520 remote desktop connection session management required this little trick I 100 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:30,080 found on the Steam forums to disconnect in such a way as to not bork Steam in 101 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:36,080 home streaming. Then I needed to reach out to FitP who whipped me up 10 102 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:39,280 prototypes of their new 4K headless HDMI 103 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:43,199 dongle that can handle up to 4K 60 Hz 104 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:46,080 and allows the video cards HDMI audio 105 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:50,479 device to be active on a remote client. This is needed unless you would want to 106 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:55,120 install a bunch of sound cards or something like that. 107 00:07:52,319 --> 00:08:00,240 So then finally after all of that, it was time to get all my gamers to sign 108 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:04,879 into Steam on the server side using Team Viewer and on the client side on their 109 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:10,319 machines that ranged from comfortable gaming seats to less comfortable gaming 110 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:18,240 seats. And after fighting with some of the weirdness, get things fired up right 111 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:22,800 now cuz I need to play this game. Looks fine. The controls do feel a little bit 112 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,960 laggy. Um, but I think part of that is just the god-awful vehicle controls with 113 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:31,120 keyboard and mouse on GTA. My gaming experience has so far been relatively 114 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:36,399 normal. It was indoors for the most part, but now that it's outdoors, it 115 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:40,640 seems like the graphics quality actually takes a dip sometimes. Well, so far I 116 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:44,320 started the game up. I got through the intros and then somebody pointed out 117 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,399 that my game was going in slow-mo, which it does look like it in fact is going in 118 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:52,000 slow-mo. No, I don't feel like I'm gaming on anything that's in the closet. 119 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:56,000 I started playing and I'm like playing and I'm like assuming that the tower was 120 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,279 just under the desk and then it like glitched out and then I was like, 121 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:04,080 "Wait." And then I like thought about it and I was like, 122 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,760 "Oh, latency pretty smooth. Like it's 123 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,959 it's it's pretty seamless. It doesn't seem like I said it doesn't seem like 124 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:13,360 I'm running remotely. It feels like I'm I'm hooked up to like a full fat gaming 125 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,240 power. less than perfect, but almost a little bit laggy, but like a little bit 126 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:21,680 compression that I noticed from the streaming, but other than that, it's like it's pretty good. Would you 127 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:27,680 consider putting your gaming machine in a closet and beaming it to thin clients 128 00:09:24,959 --> 00:09:32,160 on a new TV or if I was playing CS GO then? No. But for any other game, I 129 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:36,160 think it would be perfectly fine. I don't know about switching, but maybe 130 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,680 consider adding it. Um cuz I don't think I would want to hide my rig in like a 131 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:42,399 closet somewhere. But at the same time, it would be useful if I'm out of the 132 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,480 room and I don't want to be sitting. I I don't want to be tethered to like, you know, a battle station or something. I 133 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:51,320 want to move elsewhere. So, so that could be really good. So, I think the 134 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:58,800 conclusion here is pretty straightforward. While we pushed the 135 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,720 hardware and the software and our 136 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:06,720 networking infrastructure, I mean, we are streaming a lot of data right now to 137 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:14,079 the limits. Most people's experiences are actually surprisingly good. And 138 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,800 while I don't think we're ready for LAN 139 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:19,920 centers, for example, to just have a server room with a bunch of machines, 140 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:24,959 you can see there I just ran into an issue. I'll there that was just a hiccup 141 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:30,000 for while I don't think we're ready for LAN centers to just have, you know, a 142 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:33,920 server rack in a closet somewhere and a bunch of thin clients spread out 143 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:39,839 throughout the land center. I don't think we're that far away. And seeing it 144 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:41,440 perform as well as it did, especially 145 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:46,480 considering the fact that we're running GTX 980 Ti and Titan X's all sandwiched 146 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:51,120 next to each other with many of them thermal throttling is pretty darn 147 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:56,720 impressive. 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