WEBVTT 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:15.759 So, I did say that with proper fans, and I would define NFF12s from Noctua to be 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:20.000 about as proper fans as you can get for heat sink and radiator applications, 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:23.840 these are directed flow fans that are optimized for static pressure, optimized 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:28.240 for silence. You can see they have rubber isolating mounts. I mean, honestly, just the build quality of 00:00:26.560 --> 00:00:31.199 these quality of these is just outstanding. I've unboxed this fan 00:00:30.080 --> 00:00:37.520 before, so you probably already know what I think about it if you saw that. But if you haven't seen that, it's 00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:41.640 freaking awesome. Basically, it's like the best 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:46.399 fan. Um, where was I going with this? Ah, 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:49.600 yes. So, without the adapter, it runs at 1500 RPM. Personally, I'm going to turn 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:53.280 these bad boys down. So, I'm going to use the low-noise adapter because I'm a 00:00:51.360 --> 00:00:57.120 bit of a silence freak. This is going to be my standardized test bench. But 00:00:55.280 --> 00:01:01.359 before I get started with my with my heat sink and radiator test bench, I 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:05.680 wanted to do a quick test cuz I had some people asking me, uh, well, you say 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:09.760 there's not much difference between just pull and push pull. As long as you're 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:12.560 using good quality fans, uh, what do you mean? Are you sure? Are you sure, 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:17.360 Lionus? Are you sure? So, that's what I'm going to be doing. I'm going to be taking these fans with their low-noise 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:21.119 adapters. I'm going to be running them in just pull on an 00:01:19.080 --> 00:01:25.600 H100i and then I'm going to be running them in pushpull on an H100i to see with 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:29.439 a pressure optimized fan just how much of a difference there is. So I will be 00:01:27.759 --> 00:01:33.520 back. All right guys, this video is going to serve a couple of purposes. So 00:01:31.119 --> 00:01:37.920 number one, it will answer once and for all that question that people keep 00:01:35.360 --> 00:01:42.640 sending me. What should I get to cool my CPU? And I'm talking like extreme like 00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:45.360 not you know the Hyper22 users out there. I mean, that's a good heat sink 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:51.040 and all that, but we're talking performance options here. So, we have 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:53.920 the H100i from Corsair right there, 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:58.920 representing the dual radiator pre-done liquid cooling class of products. We 00:01:56.479 --> 00:02:04.719 have the Silver Arrow Extreme representing extremely high-end air 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:06.960 cooling. See, dual towers, like eight 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:11.680 heat pipes, whatever else is going on in there. Don't worry, I'm not using these 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:13.920 fans. And we have the H80i representing 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:18.160 thick single radiators. Oh, I should guess I should go find a thin single 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:20.959 red. Hold on just a sec. Actually, forget it. I said this was for 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:24.879 performance options. So, we're doing performance options here. Now, I want to 00:02:23.040 --> 00:02:29.440 talk a little bit about my standardized test bench here. This is a Corsair C70 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:33.840 Vengeance case. I'm going to be running it with the stock fans in the front. I 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:38.879 am going to be running it with this fan in the back regardless of whatever else 00:02:35.920 --> 00:02:45.680 is going on. That is a Noctua NFF12. My favorite fan. And whatever cooler I put 00:02:41.920 --> 00:02:47.360 in it is getting more Noctua NF12s. 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:50.640 These are going to be run with their no their low-noise adapters cuz I 00:02:49.040 --> 00:02:54.160 personally don't think even for the highest performance gaming rig these 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:58.160 days that there's any excuse for it to be loud. So that's a 3930K in there. 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:02.640 That's going to be overclocked and overvolted. That's a GTX 580. We're 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:06.720 going to close up the side panel because that's enough of CPU coolers being 00:03:04.720 --> 00:03:09.920 tested on open test benches. I know it's not realistic, so I'm not going to be 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:14.720 lazy about it anymore, guys. We're testing all CPU coolers in a closed case 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:19.440 without perfect cable management, just like they're going to be run in the real 00:03:16.920 --> 00:03:23.920 world. So, we're going to take idle and load temperatures of each of these 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:27.840 setups. We're only using Noctua NF12 fans. We're replacing whatever comes on 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:34.239 whatever coolers we use. In the event that a cooler must use a larger than 120 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:39.159 mm fan, we have A15s, so we can use 00:03:34.239 --> 00:03:42.159 those instead. Those are 140 mil fans. 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:43.680 Um, so let's get started. Oh, right. One 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:47.519 more thing. The reason I'm using the same fans on every cooler because the 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:51.760 stock coolers that or the stock fans that are included with most coolers are 00:03:48.959 --> 00:03:55.840 rubbish anyway. So you and again, we're talking performance options. You should 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:59.840 be buying your own fan that's better. Um, also I'm using aftermarket thermal 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:04.400 compound on all of them. I'm using IC Diamond thermal compound. So there you 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:09.599 go. I've had a lot of people talk about IC7 versus IC 24. Guys, it's the same 00:04:07.040 --> 00:04:13.439 stuff. The 7 and 24 for carrots. Carrots are just weight. They're not purity. 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:19.280 Um, right. So, yeah, consistency. So 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:22.560 that way we are going to have a consistent sort of overall noise level 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.840 to the system because we're going to be running good quality fans and we're 00:04:24.400 --> 00:04:30.160 going to get a consistent experience with fans that are correctly optimized 00:04:27.919 --> 00:04:33.280 for whatever kind of cooler we're using because these are correctly optimized 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:38.080 for any heat sink or radiator cuz they're awesome. High pressure, focus 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:41.840 flow, just good, good, good, good fans. Step one, clean the existing thermal 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:47.680 goop and any residue off of both surfaces. So clean CPU is needed. Clean 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:50.600 bottom of the heat sink is 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:55.199 gain up. Also needed guys, when applying thermal 00:04:52.800 --> 00:05:00.000 compound, less really is more. Remember, this is a 2011 chip, so that's how much 00:04:57.919 --> 00:05:04.560 goop it takes for that. For an 1155, it will be much less. For this next shot, 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:09.039 prepare for your mind to be blown. I'm going to turn around my shotgun 00:05:06.280 --> 00:05:13.280 mic. There we go. Get that pointed at the computer so you guys can hear what a 00:05:11.440 --> 00:05:16.680 gaming machine sounds like when it's correctly optimized. 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:27.440 Oh. Oh, it's silent. L minus. Why do you 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:31.759 care so much about the silence of your gaming rig? Well, because it doesn't 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:36.160 have to be loud. Hold on. Turn my mic back around. It's 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.680 unnecessary. It's just ridiculous. If you want a loud gaming rig, then why 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:44.400 invest in these elegant cooling solutions that do such a good job? Why 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:47.800 not just use a stock cooler? And why don't you get an Xbox while you're at 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:51.440 it? You want a loud gaming machine? I've explained this before in a 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:58.160 previous video, but I just want to go through my methodology again really quick, guys. So, basically, I'm using 00:05:54.960 --> 00:06:00.320 Realtemp GT to take temperatures. I am 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:06.160 recording idle temperatures after about 5 minutes just idling at the desktop. 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:08.319 Um, I am recording ambient temperatures 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:14.000 using my multilogger thermometer right here with a I forget something. Type K 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:19.360 type KT type sensor. There it is with a Ktype sensor um right at the intake for 00:06:17.280 --> 00:06:23.840 the case. So remember guys, the front is the only intake that we're using here. 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:27.120 So the air is uh basically coming from there. So that gives us a pretty good 00:06:25.039 --> 00:06:32.319 idea of what temperature the air cooling the CPU heat sink is. And then I am 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:35.120 taking load temperatures after about 5 minutes. For air coolers, I don't need 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:39.600 to wait quite as long, but for liquid coolers, you have to wait for the liquid 00:06:36.960 --> 00:06:44.240 temperature itself to equalize. And then I'm recording everything here. So, I no 00:06:41.440 --> 00:06:48.000 longer need these noise notes unless uh a water cooler has a pump noise because 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:51.919 remember guys, with water coolers, you have whatever fans are running on it 00:06:49.520 --> 00:06:57.039 plus a pump. Every mechanical thing you add to a cooler is a another point of 00:06:54.160 --> 00:07:01.360 failure and b another potential noise source. And I want to explain again how 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:06.160 I'm correcting for idle temperature for ambient temperatures. So, I'm going to 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:08.319 correct to 20°. I I had people debating 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:12.639 me about this last time. Please go find a physics professor or something and ask 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:18.520 them if this is how it works. If the temperature were to go up to 20°, it 00:07:15.919 --> 00:07:22.720 would scale by 11.8°. That that's just that's how it 00:07:20.960 --> 00:07:25.520 works. It's not it's not something that I want to debate about. So, I'll be 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:31.039 correcting all temperatures and reporting them as if the room was at 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:33.840 20°, not as if it's at 9.2 degrees cuz 00:07:31.039 --> 00:07:38.080 I'm in Canada in my garage. And another thing for low temperature testing, I 00:07:35.840 --> 00:07:43.120 will be running the GPU at full load as well as the CPU at full load just to 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:48.479 simulate again a closedcase environment where the system is being taxed and a 00:07:45.440 --> 00:07:50.400 worst case scenario for an actual real 00:07:48.479 --> 00:07:54.000 system that's actually been built. So let's go ahead and take our load 00:07:52.479 --> 00:07:58.479 temperature. So I'm taking the second hottest core, which looks like it's at 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:03.360 about 61°. Again, guys, this isn't like the super scientificest way to do this. 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:06.800 So 61 and a 10 degree ambient. There we go. All right. It looks like the 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:13.039 temperatures haven't gone up since I did my H100i load test. So here's H80i. And 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:18.479 I've been saying for a long time, and I was never quite sure how right I was 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:24.160 that single rad, like a single 120 mm rad solutions are not even close to a 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:25.759 dual 120 mm rad. So you can look at 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:29.599 there's our there's our idle temperature. It's around 29 on the 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:34.440 second hottest core, which gives us a difference between an H100i and H80i of 00:08:32.479 --> 00:08:39.719 like 15 almost 15° under uh at idle. So, let's see how 00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:44.320 that gets changed under load. All right. So, here's the H80 with 00:08:42.560 --> 00:08:47.519 one fan, but I'm going to give the H80 the benefit of two fans since it comes 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:53.080 with two fans. So, we'll test it that way as well. But it looks like our load 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:56.839 temperature is 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:59.120 85° and our intake is 00:08:56.839 --> 00:09:07.200 10.1. Well, I was a little surprised at how much of a difference it made to 00:09:00.959 --> 00:09:09.360 switch to a push Whoops. 10 Oops. 10.8. 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.600 There we go. To switch to pushpull on the H80i. I guess it shouldn't surprise 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:16.480 me that much because it is a thicker radiator. I know on the H100 it doesn't 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:21.120 make that much of a difference, but there you go. Our corrected temperatures 00:09:18.640 --> 00:09:25.200 at idle show about a 3°ree improvement over just a single pole fan. And then at 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:29.920 load, it's about a 10°ree difference. However, it's still nowhere near the 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:33.440 performance of the H100i. Or rather, sorry, hold on. Here's 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:38.160 our corrected one. So, yeah, about 10 degrees delta and then our difference 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:40.720 between them and uh still 13 degrees worse than an 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:48.000 H100i. Well, it's time to measure the contender. It should be noted, guys, 00:09:45.680 --> 00:09:52.640 that there is more to CPU cooling solutions than just performance. I mean, 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:55.600 for example, these Corsair coolers do come with the link software, which 00:09:53.920 --> 00:10:00.240 allows you to set up things like fan curve profiles and cool stuff like that. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:02.880 Whereas, I mean, in my experiment, I'm limiting the factors as much as 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:06.560 possible. So, I'm keeping all the fans at a constant RPM, but that's something 00:10:04.880 --> 00:10:10.800 you have to bear in mind. Also, installation for the water coolers is 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:14.959 much easier than these huge bulky air coolers, however blingastic they might 00:10:12.640 --> 00:10:18.480 look with their multiple fans on them. You can see the configuration is still 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:23.920 standard. Also, with big air coolers, you can see there's very little clearance between that lowrofile dim and 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:27.600 the uh fan itself. So, you can't you're really limited in terms of what memory 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.800 you can install. Um, more wires. Actually, not necessarily more wires, 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:37.600 especially with that USB cable that runs to the HI series. So, let's find out how 00:10:33.839 --> 00:10:37.600 this does. Let's boot her 00:10:39.640 --> 00:10:48.720 up. All right, so idle temperatures are 26° for our Silver Arero Extreme and 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:54.000 ambience have gone up a little bit since we started here to 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:59.680 11.1°. Well, there you have it, guys. The H100i, even with all other factors 00:10:57.040 --> 00:11:05.680 being the same, is the ruler of the roost. So, our ambient are still 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:10.000 11.1°. And with the Whoops, sorry. With 00:11:05.680 --> 00:11:13.279 the Silver Arrow Extreme, we are at 67°. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:16.240 Whoops. Sorry about that. We are at 67° 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:22.760 on the second hottest core. So, let's go ahead and fill out those temperatures. 00:11:19.079 --> 00:11:26.519 1.1 67. So, you can see that it per 00:11:22.760 --> 00:11:29.600 Whoops, Freudian slip there. So, it's 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:32.399 67° under load. So that corrects to 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:37.839 about 75 degrees under load. So there you go. So there's the 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:40.000 H100i. There's the H80i with dual fans. 00:11:37.839 --> 00:11:44.320 There is the Silver Arrow Extreme with the same fan. So you can see the silver 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:49.519 a high-end air cooler. So remember guys, something like an NHD14 uh will be quite 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:54.640 similar to this in terms of performance. Destroys something like a thick single 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:59.360 radiator even in pushpull with highly optimized pressure optimized fans. 00:11:56.640 --> 00:12:03.760 Whereas the H100i, especially under heavy loads, really pulls away from 00:12:01.040 --> 00:12:07.360 those other solutions. See, at idle, these I mean, even these two look very 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:12.000 similar, but you can see how under load the uh Silverado Extreme really pulls 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:17.600 away. Now, that really demonstrates that as the as the heat goes up, so to speak, 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:20.720 the uh the men separate themselves from the boys in a test like this. I mean, 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:26.079 even this is only a 3° difference. That's why I don't like the way that Corsair does the packaging on these 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:29.920 products, at least the way they used to with the H100, where they would compare 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:34.880 it. Yeah. See, they still do this. It's just goofy. They compare it against an 00:12:31.760 --> 00:12:37.519 Intel box cooler showing Well, okay, now 00:12:34.880 --> 00:12:40.959 they don't even try to show a proper temperature, but they used to and uh it 00:12:39.839 --> 00:12:46.240 didn't show that much of a difference because it's not until you overclock that it really makes a big difference. 00:12:43.680 --> 00:12:50.399 So, thank you for checking out this video on Linus Tech Tips, demonstrating 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:53.760 that the H100i is the ruler of the roost. Don't forget to subscribe for 00:12:52.079 --> 00:12:57.160 more unboxings, reviews, and other computer videos.