I like lollipop that was
$1,000 that baby looks so alarmed we
really didn't have as much to be excited about back then did we we just came
across an absolute Nostalgia Gold Mine
remember Maximum PC no okay well it was
really cool and a computer geek staple back in the late 9s early 2000s and as
it turns out every issue from 1998 to
2008 happens to be available on Google books for our enjoyment so why don't you
join me on a trip down memory lane it's going to be just you me Adam and of
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you at all right yeah kind of I've only really been in like a handful of videos
at this point I'm looking forward to the difference in reaction between me and
Adam because in preparing for this video I was like hey how old are you and he
goes 27 I'm like oh cool we're actually not that far oh I'm 36 almost we're 10
years apart I built my first computer back in late 2003 early 2004 meaning
that right smack dab in the middle of this archive was when I was like
drooling over Hardware that I could never possibly hope to afford meanwhile
Adam was like I like lollipop I was I was more of a Beyblades kid I was really
into Beyblades you're really into Beyblades fantastic love it so by the
time you built your first computer all of this was long gone I built my first
computer in 2013 after working a summer
job I have pictures of it actually our origin stories are nearly identical
though that's exactly what I did with my first summer job money we're going to
start with the 2004 or issue every September is when Maximum PC would drop
their dream machine which is exactly what it sounds like it's just the
mostest the bestest and the most expensivest Hardware that you can find
we haven't even made it past the cover and it's already Story Time one of my
supervisors at NCI and this was actually a few years later mind you but they were
my supervisor and they still had this Edition Maximum PC handed it to me as an
example to prove that my hating on
displays on the front of computer cases was stupid because Maximum PC thought it
was the bomb it's pretty clear I was right that Trend did not take off this
case is made by Silverstone and in my personal opinion they actually kind of
murdered it this is the
tj6 all right I want to see it this issue contains over 35 brutal reviews
can you handle the truth you had to have a hatch so that you could hide your
drives which defeats the whole purpose of having a display that display by the
way is touchscreen so you could play Space Cadet table with the I don't know
I don't know but it's showing an XP
Bliss background it's cuz Windows XP was the operating system of choice back then
I would love to run Windows XP on the front of my computer ooh look at that
wow you can tell I'm old school because I see that pile of hardware and my
immediate reaction before I realized that it's all ancient literal E-Waste at
this point is like wow all right what
are we looking at did I get the case right tj3 I wasn't even close it was
$1,000 oh yeah silverston premium cases
back then were super expensive the one Ivon got me as a gift the tj07 was like
$6 $700 case and I had to put my own
window in the side no I didn't I did I we ended up spending the extra on the
window how did they justify that kind of money why like cases are dirt cheap now
well cases were Dirt Cheap back then too but this was a premium case and the
competition for premium cases with decent features hadn't even begun to
heat up yet okay you want to bring up the Zer line Zer do it I dare you there
you go right there that one this is a similar era Zer what year is this
article this article is3 am I good or
what one issue is that aluminum cases had not gone mainstream yet I could
count on probably one hand the number of aluminum cases that weren't made by lean
Lee or Silverstone both of whom were Boutique and barely had a presence in
North America at all so a lot of the techniques that we take for granted to
help bring down the cost of aluminum cases just didn't exist or weren't
economical yet are those Logitech z680
oh yeah I had me a pair of those you know
what I could probably dig up a picture of my Logitech z680 setup the Logitech
z680 is were the Everyman computer surround speakers because believe it or
not PC surround speakers were a thing back then at the top you had the
creative Giga Works 5.1 or 7.1 configs
you had the clips promedia Ultra 5. ons those were so good and then the next TI
down Logitech came in disrupted the market was anywhere from a third to half
the price and delivered a lot of Base
but there was a hiss that's the reason I returned my z680 because I had them
close enough to me that that constant hiss even when they were completely
turned all the way down was very annoying back then you're spending
$1,000 on a Case $10 on a mouse
pad please if there's something that affects your performance like a mouse
pad does this is their justification for their mouse pad whatever piece of foam
and rubber happens to be lying around but not us we spend
$10 you got to remember this was in the days of early crappy Optical and Laser
sensors you do not spend $10 on on it
and blow $1,000 on a Case oh yeah Intel
Pentium 4560 overclocked oh yeah this is 2004 doesn't
the Athlon 64 exist already yeah it says the Athlon 64
fx53 it's generally acknowledged to be faster in games but they wanted the PCI
the PCIe and ddr2 that's their justification you know this is something
that the PC Enthusiast community and
media has never been able to to figure out all that Gamers care is how many FPS
they get does ddr2 get me more FPS if
it's paired with a CPU that's not as good don't buy it right yeah this should
have absolutely been a socket 939 system if they're going for it the best fasten
your seat bels at 500 mahz this baby
will blow you away where's my mother
board that baby looks so alarmed the
mega works 510d that would be a predecessor to the Giga Works around
setup that I was talking about from like when I first got into this stuff you
have two voicemails five emails and while you were out your joystick made a
pass at me cuz it's a virtual assistant corporate sexual harassment that's
that's funny one is that a Microsoft
wave the classic that was my keyboard
for like 3 or 4 years computer Furniture
delivered direct to you can I just say good riddance to the keyboard Tru
bye-bye new to North America from Rolland USB one cable pure sound I love
it I also like the This Acronym
dtmp dtmp that never took off July
2002 surround gaming that display setup
would weigh like 200
lb was that even remotely enjoyable
because of the bezel size like oh nobody
did this stuff back in the day it's like an IMAX theater for your PC yeah I think
IMAX would have some things to say about that we need to get this shut
up this is a foldable I'm pretty sure it's a laptop
and it looks like you can split the bottom in
half I'm not sure flip pad Voyager this
is before yeah this is before my time this is before creative acquired
Cambridge Sound Works creative just kind of devoured every Audio company over the
course of a few years creative was a monster and desktop PC audio products
your your sound cards and your midi interfaces and surround sound speaker
setups it was actually a sizable chunk of business if you wanted sound that
didn't completely suck and I'm not talking oh I detect excellent Dynamics
in this track I'm talking popping and
like hissing and you know I'm talking buzzing sounds when you move your mouse
around like you needed a sound card the
greatest 100 PC Technologies of all time Microsoft
soliter I mean they had to come up with a 100 things they set themselves a
pretty big list Skype is 96 sounds like
computers were awful yeah pretty much having flash
memory under that laser printer yeah I
don't know if I can get behind that yeah especially knowing what we know now was
the future not always bright for flash memory flash memory wasn't actually
slated as a replacement for the hard drive December 2007 M okay feel like
they should have seen it coming NVIDIA SLI how'd that work out it's funny how
some of their selections are really broad actual industry changing things
ATA or DSL and some of them are super
specific specificy virus scan is number 60 were
they a sponsor by any chance can tell
what was a Hot Topic back then though perpendicular hard drive recording huge
deal because all of a sudden instead of laying out the zeros and ones this way
you were able to lay them out this way and hard drive density was going through
a period of like rapid rapid growth you
could make an argument for Napster being even higher than this in my opinion
opinion because Napster was the wakeup call that the music industry got that
something needed to change I don't think Spotify exists today if not for the
disruption of Napster Napster just enabled people to share music in a way
that never worked before like exactly halflife okay Doom beat halflife I mean
halflife wouldn't have wouldn't exist without doom doom was that's fair you
could also make an argument that Quake was more influential just because the
power and modularity of the engine again halflife also wouldn't exist because of
Quake because it was originally built on quake's engine Windows XP really number
five position of Windows XP in this list was very much affected by like the poor
reception of Emy and 2000 well no 2000
wasn't poorly received 200000 was excellent but you got to understand that
Windows 2000 was not a consumer product consumers were stuck with Windows 98 98
SE me as you mentioned and then it went
straight to XP Windows 2000 was good because it was based on the NT kernel
and that's what made Windows XP good so again I'm looking at this going well
hold on a second you can't yes Windows XP brought a better kernel to Consumers
but it wasn't what introduced it to the world and it wasn't what introduced this
familiar way that we have of interacting with our computer with the start menu
and and all this other stuff the taskbar Mosaic the first web browser yeah Mosaic
should probably be above now that we know how much more the internet has
changed our lives than even they knew back then this is number one not way
above you know graphics cards and a
particular line of CPUs and even above
USB that's fair I think USB is a fair
pick for the time though USB changed the game that's definitely true honestly I
could sit and just go through this for many hours tunic Tower 120 that holds a
special place in my should we look first review Boys stock
cooler or your AMD stock cooler look at what we literally put on a pedestal in
2005 put on an actual physical pedestal
oh man yeah Athlon 64x 24800 plus I
drooled over that one there's no justification for spending the extra
though I got the 4,400 plus that way you get the full I want to say it was 52
kilobytes of cash per core don't quote me on that but you get the full cash on
the chip and you can just over clock h a couple hundred mehz and you're good to go I got a 2405 fpw from Dell Logitech
G5 absolutely deserves its place here zelman reserator 1l do you even know
what this thing is no is it a radiator it's called a reserator because it's a
reservoir and a radiator and it literally sat outside your case you know
how so many old cases have those punch outs to run something into the inside I
remember having run this it's for water cooling if you have had one of these
reserator it would passively dissipate the heat to the surrounding air and
through the sheer volume of the water it would be able to absorb momentary spikes
like like a short gaming session they were actually super cool and I believe
that especially later models you could get like an add-on fan that would blow
down the whole thing and the performance was outstanding Cooler Master stacker CM
830 this was actually a super dumb case because the whole point of the stacker
it's right in the name is you can stack it with hard drives and the stacker 830
was sexy looking and could fit like gpus
and this was cool you could put four 120 mm fans on the side to basically blow
fresh air across the entire inside of the computer or I shouldn't say hard
drives because it was 5 and a/4 inch bays in the early stackers so you could
fill it with anything fan controllers we would put those in the front uh
reservoirs were typically 5 and a/4 inch Bays we didn't do tube reservoirs
internally yet this is their blunders the thermal tle an apple Mouse Apple
still makes garbage mice they really do
CU I was the one that had a stupid little awful feeling track ball in it
right this wi-fi router promised a mile
of range from an 802.11 beat well that's
just an obvious lie they're so mad about this Arctic
cooling cooler that came on the sapphire toxic radon x700 Pro and you want to
know why they're mad it's actually super cool cooler it was UV reactor active so
it would like glow blue and orange toxic
it consumes three count them three PCI
slots where am I going to put all my other cards now we have motherboards
that don't even have hardly any slots in them because nobody puts any cards in
their motherboards that's great yeah well I've been drinking from the water
bottle the whole time baby oo yeah it's the new colors oh we have some really
awesome new colors for water bottles on LT store and really dumb names for them
that we came up with in literally like 2 minutes
what's your favorite name I think cream scream is my favorite dumb name because
we can't call it yeah we can't infringe on anyone's trademarks but it's orange
and white oh yeah look at that Holy
bananas quadcore CPU man look at that
cable and tubing management is that skull Trail we did a whole video about
skull Trail Intel's former dual socket
Enthusiast platform it it was pretty cool is that as chips SEC cooler no no
okay skull Trail used fully buffer dims because it was based on Intel's server
architecture and fully buffered dims had these buffer chips on them that ran
extremely hot they needed active cooling
this was not an optional thing so that's a Corsair Dominator airflow RAM cooler
sitting over top of the memory slots and the memory slots on this motherboard are
down beneath the CPU which is correct because the North Bridge see this right
here contains the memory controller this is before Intel integrated the memory
controller so these two core
architecture based CPUs right here but
each of them are quad core and they are communicating to the North Bridge which
communicates to the memory cool right
PCI Express was also still on the chipset so that was going all the way
down here to your dual I can't tell what
these are but they're definitely ATI cards or AMD I can't remember if the
R 700s but we've got two of them in crossfire and they're sandwich right in
together because who needs cooling Corsair fully buffered dims love how
Corsair put their sticker on these server dims good job Corsair danger Den
made a water block for this board so that you could still install all of your
cards cuz see otherwise if you install the water block you'd have tubes
sticking out right so you could still install all your cards and then have the
cooling come out like somewhere else dtech Fusion V2 CPU blocks good old
Danny DTE the Velociraptors I remember I
remember seeing those ocz water cooled
memory modules yep not one but two barbs
per side to actually tube them up I think they were qu in or 1 18 in can't
remember to actually tube them up was an absolute Gong Show was so dumb for all
that money crisis runs at 26 FPS that's
why it's a freaking meme it was just unplayable it was incredible what am I
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video I'd say go check out the skull Trail retrospective that we did it's a
super cool platform and it's worth digging a little deeper in than I did
with my little mousing over where the data paths were thanks for watching
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