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yeah we're back welcome to the WAN Show guys we are gonna have a great show for

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you guys this week actually this week was like drama central very much so yeah

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like Oh like everybody yeah there's like

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Okay okay so top topics this is amazing california High School makes $24 million

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off the Snapchat IPO

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like what what ridiculous like h how is that even

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apparently they invested I guess no we're not talking about this right now

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moving on um yeah so Uber plans to turn

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its app into a content marketplace

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during rides totally needed that and any

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other opinion is just invalid AMD responds to weak 1080p gaming results on

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Ryzen and Intel responds to strong

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gaming results at other resolutions on Ryzen by slashing the pricing of their

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Core i7 and Core i5 processors by a lot

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it just got real kids let's roll the intro

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hopefully this is reflected in used processors

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you know someone complained about the fact that we talked

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over the music in the intro and said it was like really unprofessional and we

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should stop doing that i always liked that in show who cares in any show where

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they like talked over it I was like "Hey cool."

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Not even that i don't even think it's cool i just think it's completely

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irrelevant right who cares

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yeah we're talking we're we're we're here i mean they're like "Yeah they

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forget to turn off the We didn't forget to turn it off we specifically turn it

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on." No I I turn it on

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like okay before we had a USB audio interface I would specifically have the

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HDMI in because we were using camera audio in and I would specifically have

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that HDMI source sitting under the intro

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so that if we're chatting behind it you guys can hear You definitely hear it

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yeah i mean coming at you live that's right coming at you live not

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pre-recorded or is it oh damn

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would it really matter

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okay so let's get into this one first of all the original article here is from

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CBC.ca i got it the Oh I'm sorry we've both got

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it you know what everybody's got it look at this everybody's got it no we both

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got it look at that look at how we can both share our screens now a California

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high school makes $24 million in the Snapchat IPO now hold

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on can I Can I jump in with a question first yeah 100% why are schools allowed

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to invest money i can answer that okay good this is a private school

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i see this is a private Catholic high school in California Silicon Valley they

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agreed to invest $15,000 in seed money into Snapchat in 2012 that happened

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because one of the students parents is a VC venture capitalist so was like able

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to push this through they bought that $15,000 worth of shares which totals

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600,000

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shares they sold 1.4 Oh oh no they they

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Okay they had 2 million shares they sold

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1.4 4 million shares at $17 during

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Snapchat's IPO this week generating about $24 million but they still have

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600,000 shares which is still worth like $17 million

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holy crap investment man investment wow how

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is it that technology companies don't do much but gamble make millions of dollars

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i mean how are how are these companies worth this kind of money snapchat so

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okay so this was the biggest social media IPO since Twitter more than three

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years ago shares closed at 2448 a piece so $2448 a piece which

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means Snapchat is now valued at 28

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billion now just

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to 28 billion it's an astronomical

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amount their net loss is still higher

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than their

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revenue how do we assign value to these

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companies it just keeps happening investors don't have a clear picture of

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how the company plans to become profitable i mean to me how how how do

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you even figure that out like we are this far in the hole to be

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like a 75% gain over loss company at 28

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billion what do we need to do it's like

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where are we going to pull $28 billion

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out of our rectums oh man and I bet you

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someone could Snapchat you and show you how oh I wouldn't want to see that

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snap i mean I'm like I'm down but no I'm

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not down

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and he's gone you know I had to go after you when

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you're going to take a big drink of water like that oh my god I almost lost

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it okay i mean all all I all I had to do to make you spit it all over the screen

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was say "Send that snap Luke take a deep

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breath." Terrible um oh jeez so user

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growth slowed in the fourth quarter um

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and there's skepticism as to how big the company's

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advertising business i mean I mean the whole the whole model of like a lot of

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users look at our junk okay that came across wrong um a lot a Okay it's

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Snapchat so okay okay so a lot of users

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look at our junk online um therefore you should put ads on our

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junk and users would see those ads this

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is working really well um and users will see those ads and they will maybe buy

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your product or sign up for your service i mean we're going to get to the point

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where the valuation and expected revenue

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of the companies who entire whose entire

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business model is like other companies

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selling stuff through them the value of these companies is going to be bigger

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than the ones who are actually producing

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products or making services you're

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making fun of our own company right i'm not making fun

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look okay yes we But we're Okay we don't expect

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that our market cap is higher than Intel's though that's the difference

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yeah that's fair yeah yeah we are not evaluated at 28 billion and here's the

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thing too i think if we're looking at a company like Snapchat going like "Yes

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there's huge advertising potential here." like that advertising money has

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to come from somewhere and I think there's still a lot of room for

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traditional media to bleed um I mean TV

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advertising really doesn't make a ton of sense to me i mean you can look at big

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shows like big shows like Adventure Time

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or you know the Big Bang Theory Game of

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Thrones game of Thrones well Game of Thrones is a bad example it's HBO so so

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I'm talking ad supported shows okay you

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look at these big shows and you kind of go "Okay so they had like like okay what

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are South Park's ratings over the last year?" South Park ratings you know maybe

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they had 5 million or 10 million people

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who tuned who tuned into the premiere let's have a Let's have a look south

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Park uh no no where's the uh where's the episodes come on come on come on come on

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come on come on come on come on episodes

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here we go list of episodes there we go okay so show Lake South Park recent

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season wow you got to scroll through a lot of seasons for this particular

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show okay here here we go we got uh an

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estimated 1.3 to 2 million and change US viewers

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of a season premiere and I look at the

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prices that that is not thought it would

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be for well it's fallen a lot you look at the prices that you pay for cable

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advertising and we look at sort of the rates that we're allowed to charge that

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that we can get sponsors to pay for inclusion in our videos and I'm sitting

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here going like our video could actually

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get more viewership on the ad especially

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given that like

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No not really given anything u I mean I'm I'm I'm saying given that it's

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shorter so given that people don't won't really tune in and out of it in the same

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way but people do skip around in YouTube videos so I took it back before I said

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it but then I said it but then I explained why I took it back before I said it absolutely fair then I explained

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the whole thing so my but my point is that there's still room for companies to

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clue in that just that that standard

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quarterly spend you'd be surprised

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i No no i'm What I mean is that there's still there is No I'm agreeing with them

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saying to them you'd be surprised there's still a lot of room for them to

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clue in that a viewer on YouTube is also

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a viewer the same way as a viewer on Comedy Central or NBC or whatever the

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case may be um but with that said I do

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think that it is hard for someone like

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Snapchat i think that Facebook has actually set kind of an unrealistic bar

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for other online advertising platforms both Facebook and Google um where

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everyone looked at the Facebook IPO with a lot of skepticism figured they were

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overvalued ha they've gone up in value because they've been really smart about

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it and Facebook because it knows so much

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about you advertises to you so well

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snapchat i'm not convinced that the way people use Snapchat and the demographic

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that uses Snapchat is going to be as

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easily influenced by an online ad as the

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demographic that uses Facebook and the

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user habits of a of a typical Facebook user would you agree with that yes i

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mean if I it's like it's like putting advertising in WhatsApp even Facebook

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hasn't bothered to try to do that because I'm here to communicate with

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people you put an ad in it I will go use a different messaging app and there will

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like always be another one and there will all there will always be another

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one because there will it's like a gold rush right yeah so there will always be

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a bunch of teams of developers with these incredible resumes of all the

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billion dollar companies that they came from cashed out and decided to start

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their own to turn their billions into billions cubed or whatever whatever

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whatever target it is however many more Teslas they need or Priuses i mean it's

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San Fran so that's basically the only two options

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um one one interesting tidbit before we

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continue um a lot of people in the chat thought we missed the outro and uh the

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word I think the word restart has been like banned now thank you Ghost because

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everyone was just spamming or the intro sorry they're just spamming the crap out

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of it i think it's just cuz we were mostly on time

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so So people like didn't see it oh yeah we started like 15 minutes ago so

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there's that so we definitely did the intro the intro

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has definitely been completed there is no restarting that's going to happen and

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I believe there was audio too and if you start spamming restarting chat like a

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whole bunch of you just did it's just going to bing um because the the LTT

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chatbot is merciless okay so here's my

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final point on the Snapchat IPO i think that Facebook set unrealistic

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expectations for for a social media

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platform going public and then when

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everyone was skeptical they went ahead and they exceeded even the most bullish

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expectations and so now I think it has

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set the stage for these other companies to be to be valued in in a in a

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different way like people are invested in Facebook for the long term now

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instead of just like you know jumping on the bandwagon making a quick buck and

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getting TFO uh I don't know that Snapchat will enjoy that kind of

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long-term success because if they ever

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want to actually be profitable they do have to figure out how to compete with

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someone like Facebook and Google and I'm I'm really not that convinced yeah like

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ever uh speaking of things that I'm not convinced about let's pull up this

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article from TechCrunch that

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um really doesn't make a ton of sense to me but maybe uh did you post it in chat

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already nope that's fine well no it's fine i can Well you can do it someone

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can do it someone will do it here we can watch Luke do it now

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we're watching you do it on the internet

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my girlfriend would be pretty pissed off and terrible terrible i I love how

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you're like my girlfriend would be pissed off

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you just have no problem with it right do I interpret this correctly you're my

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boss man wait so that makes it better or worse

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i'm just doing my job

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we have all kinds of jobs around here dirty jobs done dirt cheap even um okay

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so Uber plans to turn its app into a

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content marketplace and then they they they

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actually kind of had my attention until

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the last part of the headline where it

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goes during rides so a series of thirdparty apps

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would provide you with information about the area you are going to work in

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productivity integrations communications with the place you are going to

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specifically or just standard entertainment because people can't

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multitask and go to Google I guess and they want to charge

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you for that i think

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um the marketplace will be based on a new version of trip experiences a

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smaller feature first launched a year ago with a select group of partners okay

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so I see I see some I see some potential

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here so if it's free if the idea is that

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the the you get in your Uber or like

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Okay so I don't if it's free sure yeah i don't look at the Uber app again after I

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call the Uber i do sometimes you do okay

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make sure the driver's staying on course or Okay okay i've I've gotten screwed

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before and Uber is really good about like if you can prove that you got

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screwed on your driving path they'll give you money back cool okay so if the

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idea then is here's a cool restaurant

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and they expect the restaurant to give them a cut of whatever it is or here's a

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tourist destination or here's a tour that you can take or whatever the case

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may be then I kind of get it if they're going to try and like sell me a movie to

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watch then I think that's going to be uh

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that's going to be less less successful

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um yeah okay i I guess that's pretty

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much all I have to say about that some of this stuff sounds really

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stupid like they're pushing contextual engagement that might for example enable

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a Snapchat user to unlock special stickers or

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filters okay this next one's kind of cool though it could showcase Instagram

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pictures of the destination you're headed to yeah but you could search on

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Instagram you could but having it all in one place is like an automatic people

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don't like to actually do that it's going to be like the airport like

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like it's Uber you're not traveling across the country yeah that's true i

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mean maybe part of this is that the way that people like you and me use Uber

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might be a little different than the way that some people use Uber because my

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understanding and guys correct me if I'm wrong ask people

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how they use i'm looking at looking at Twitch chat because I I don't know how I

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would come up with all these options so I'm looking at Twitch chat for a change

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but the way that I use Uber as someone who owns a car is I use it when I'm

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traveling and I use it to get from a hotel if you if you don't own a car and

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you're using it to commute or something like that then you're less interested in

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your destination right

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we are like the most interested in our destination use case that there is and

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even then like you would have looked at pictures of it before you Hold on the

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answers are rolling in i use I use Uber for sex lift is better

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um don't use Uber just do not use it

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please uh all of us are poor we use Shoe

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Bar schuber i think that's a joke i use Uber to buy to buy narcotics i use Uber

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when I'm drunk yeah there's a lot of I use Uber when I'm drunk um

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so what they're trying to do is have

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inapp purchases so people intoxicated

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can spend more money you know what uber's on the right path here um they

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know they totally know what's going on i clearly I I have a much clearer

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understanding of what they're what they're trying to do this is what more social media companies need to do in

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order to make money snapchat pro tip if your user is drunk allow them to buy

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things facebook i mean Facebook has some

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wicked crazy facial recognition facebook

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if you guys don't already get working on

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drunk recognition because as soon as your user uploads a selfie where they're

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just wasted AF sell them something you can you can

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pay like a lot of money to send a priority message to someone that you

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used to be in a relationship status with

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wow wow you just blew my mind it sends

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It sends a Facebook message and a text message and it starts a call all at the

00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:10.799
same time yeah oh wow i love it get back together

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it should cost $69

00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:18.720
wait $6.90 yeah yeah oh I love it okay

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um the Twitch chat wow actually that's a

00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:29.120
pretty good idea

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hey that happens on the WAN Show once in a while okay group 10% remember yeah

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that's right okay AMD responds this was

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originally posted by 3D OSH on the forum

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the original article here is from PC Purr yeah and AMD responds to 1080 G

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1080p gaming tests on Ryzen ryan

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Shrout's my bud so I'm just going to read his article to you guys word for

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word we linked to it and hopefully he won't get too mad at me because it's this it's basically plagiarism if I read

00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:06.080
his article is it not but you're quoting it but I'm not giving

00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:09.440
him ad impressions by actually sending people to his site okay so tell you what

00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:14.240
everybody but I've had people who host sites that we've given shoutouts like

00:20:12.320 --> 00:20:18.960
contact me directly and be like "Hey thanks." Really because it's given would

00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:22.600
never thank me for anything no no i hate that guy anyway

00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:32.240
so PC perk great site go visit it whatever luke posted in the chat anyway

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the point is um by far one of the most

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interesting and concerning points about today's launch of the AMD Ryzen

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processor is gaming results many other reviewers have seen similar results to

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what Shrout published in his article gaming at 1080p even at ultra image

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quality settings in many tops games shows a deficit in performance compared

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to KBLE and Broadwell e processors so

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Shroud says he shared his testing with AMD over a week ago must have been nice

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for him to actually have processors a week before his article was supposed to

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go up what a jackass i hate that guy um and to be clear our testing was done etc

00:21:02.159 --> 00:21:08.880
etc etc etc so you know there you go there's I think part of that problem is

00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:14.000
us being Canadian talking to other Yeah it's part of it

00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:17.960
it's not all of it okay so yeah we there

00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:21.600
was a Okay okay so this will be an aside

00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:23.039
so agency goes "Yeah yeah it's shipped

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there's like been a We don't have a tracking number though which by the way

00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:31.120
is nonsense unless you're shipping something by donkey like even if you

00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:35.760
ship by USPS to Canada United States Postal Service which is about as slow as

00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:42.640
it gets i mean you can't ship by boat from US to Canada okay it's one land

00:21:39.679 --> 00:21:46.720
mass yeah so yeah there there there literally isn't a way to ship that

00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:51.440
doesn't have a tracking number other than putting a stamp on it okay okay

00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:55.960
there is but it's the point is they didn't um so they're like "Yeah there's

00:21:53.440 --> 00:22:00.240
no tracking number but but it shipped on Wednesday they hold they they keep that

00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:04.240
story we get in touch with AMD directly they give us a tracking number because

00:22:01.840 --> 00:22:08.320
of course there's a tracking number it didn't leave till

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Friday so that is why we didn't get our eight00X in time also we're still trying

00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:16.960
to find out where our 1700 and 1700X are

00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:21.080
agency claims Oh no there's no tracking number for those shipments but they've

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:25.840
been shipped but there were storms meanwhile it's a little rainy outside

00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:30.159
but that's pretty normal not a Yeah in the Pacific Northwest so that's a thing

00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:35.559
we're We're pretty used to moving things in the rain anyway no problem AMD's

00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:41.280
response to the underwhelming 1080p performance is that uh they are

00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:43.120
supporting 300 plus developer kits with

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game development studios to optimize current and future game releases for the

00:22:45.120 --> 00:22:51.120
allnew Ryzen CPU and they do have a point here it is sort of new and

00:22:49.120 --> 00:22:56.000
different uh they announced a strategic relationship with Bethesda and um CPU

00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:58.880
benchmarking deficits to the competition in certain games at 1080p resolution can

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be attributed to the development and optimization of games uniquely to Intel

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platforms and again in the defense of

00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:10.080
game developers who did all of their development on Intel platforms makes

00:23:08.159 --> 00:23:14.480
sense AMD didn't have a CPU worth of rats patoot in the last 5 years and most

00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:20.880
gamers were gaming on Intel so I totally get why that happened um

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what if you could attribute a cost to a rat's patute it was like a lab rat yeah

00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:29.120
i mean they have a they have a cost um

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and like if you're testing that like does it have a value

00:23:31.919 --> 00:23:39.280
all I know is that I wouldn't pay much for like a wheelbarrow full of

00:23:36.679 --> 00:23:42.240
them like one might have a cost but I don't think anyone wants like a

00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:46.159
truckload so it doesn't scale very well that's

00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:51.919
fair that's fair where am I going to put these

00:23:49.120 --> 00:23:57.360
like if a rat's patoot is worth 25 cents like like what so you can take you want

00:23:55.200 --> 00:24:02.000
to store them a few thousand of them and buy like Breath of the Wild nintendo's

00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:06.720
going to be like get this out of here it's like yes yes we have like a a

00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:10.559
collecting random bull crap that you found on the ground system it's an open

00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:14.880
world game like we didn't realize anyone was actually out there doing this this

00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:20.880
stuff's not actually worth anything it's supposed to just be a video game

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:24.159
but no we do not want Borehides i think that game is going to like

00:24:22.080 --> 00:24:29.279
single-handedly sell the Switch although I don't know it works for Wii U um it's

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:32.960
like the one of the fourth or fifth or it's in the top 10 of highest rated

00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:37.520
games all time on Metacritic right now pretty ridiculous um so basically you

00:24:35.679 --> 00:24:43.360
know what i don't have a ton to say about this other than that

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:45.360
um you know AMD's got a point uh with

00:24:43.360 --> 00:24:51.679
that said I think that some of the complaints are a little bit if you're

00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:58.000
buying a like top tier GPU and a top tier CPU and then playing at

00:24:54.679 --> 00:25:00.320
1080p it's a little weird so there are

00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:05.440
situations where I get it if you bought a

00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:07.760
PG2 whatever it was the the 240 Hz okay

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:14.720
so if you bought a 240 Hz 1080p gaming display then Ryzen is not going to

00:25:11.840 --> 00:25:20.559
deliver the best possible experience but were you expecting it to i mean we

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:22.480
already knew that Ryzen Why i think most

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:26.000
people were oh well they were they were wrong and dumb um because we already

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:33.520
knew i'm just saying like I I think genuinely most people were okay well

00:25:29.679 --> 00:25:36.400
most pe some pe I already knew I already

00:25:33.520 --> 00:25:43.840
knew that even the most optimistic estimates of Ryzen's performance had it

00:25:39.679 --> 00:25:45.760
at similar IPC to Broadwell and I

00:25:43.840 --> 00:25:50.159
already knew based on the most optimistic estimates of Ryzen's final

00:25:48.159 --> 00:25:56.799
clock speed that it wasn't going to be clocked higher than a 7700 K so I

00:25:54.880 --> 00:26:00.640
already knew that it wasn't going to perform as well

00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:06.400
in single threaded applications what if you want to have uh only a processor and

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:10.320
stream Dota 2 only a processor i've still been really

00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:15.760
confused by that okay so I get it a bit more now um so uh Anthony did some

00:26:13.360 --> 00:26:20.720
testing as part of our Ryzen launch coverage where he did take a look so you

00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:24.960
know depending on who you talk to at Intel you'll find people who talk about

00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:30.799
how great quicksync video encoding is and it and

00:26:26.840 --> 00:26:34.640
NVNC are very good the problem is that

00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:37.679
where they don't shine is in the low bit

00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:39.840
rate encoding scenario that is needed

00:26:37.679 --> 00:26:44.279
for streaming to Twitch that's the problem so in order to get the best out

00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:50.080
of your 3500 kilobits per second which is really

00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:54.320
all that Twitch will process anyway you can set it higher if you want but

00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:59.039
basically you're just wasting CPU and due to actually you can hurt it because

00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:03.760
due to fluctuations if you start sending above four so if you set to like 3.8 and

00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:11.159
then it fluctuates to above four you'll just miss stuff and it's bad so so but

00:27:07.840 --> 00:27:13.520
at that kind of bit rate for

00:27:11.159 --> 00:27:19.279
108060p which is like kind of a lot of pixels per second um you have to have

00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:23.919
the best possible source image you don't even really want to do 1080 60p just an

00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:29.520
additional note if you want to do Oh I think it's like 60 FPS 720 is usually

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:34.000
what people Okay so anyway the point still stands you're very bit rate

00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:38.960
constrained and the more blockiness and crappiness in your original image the

00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:44.960
more it's going to be compounded by trying to stream it at a low bit rate

00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:47.440
out to your viewers he meant 1080 60 FPS

00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:50.880
it's fine 1080 60p is a perfectly valid way to say that by the way he's just

00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:56.320
there's just a bunch of people in the Yeah there's a bunch of people who don't

00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:59.919
know anyway so if you wanted to stream at

00:27:57.159 --> 00:28:06.159
108060p then basically what that would mean is that you would you would be you

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.880
would be making a a slightly worse image

00:28:06.159 --> 00:28:14.799
even much more slightly worse um so that's why AMD is defending their use of

00:28:12.159 --> 00:28:20.480
x.264 encoding even on systems that obviously have powerful dedicated GPUs

00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:23.360
like a an RX 480 that is the correct way

00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:32.880
to do it yeah now with that said in our testing we didn't observe the same like

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:34.880
20% dropped frames that AMD had in their

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:40.880
demos but I don't really understand that because I personally checked the AMD

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:44.480
demos i opened up I I minimized the game i opened up OBS i made sure they were at

00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:49.039
the same settings so I think one thing that was noticed at the event was that

00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:52.720
the X99 boards were in dual channel memory they only had two sticks of RAM

00:28:50.399 --> 00:28:59.039
no they weren't okay I checked i heard this i don't know um in fact Intel

00:28:56.159 --> 00:29:06.080
specifically or Intel AMD specifically even put 32 gigs of RAM in the Intel

00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:08.720
systems so that they were using um four

00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:13.039
8 gig sticks and then they had two 8 gig sticks in their own systems so they

00:29:10.399 --> 00:29:18.000
actually had less overall memory interesting you know okay hold on a

00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:21.520
second though yeah I didn't double check that the four sticks were in the right

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:25.600
slots now that I think about it but I heard specifically two sticks so they

00:29:23.679 --> 00:29:29.039
must have just mixed up the systems or something i think that's quite possible

00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:34.840
because I did look at the Cinebench system myself and there was at least one

00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:37.520
other one that like just you know

00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:40.159
I'm um and they definitely had four sticks in them and they and they was

00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:45.600
right on the spec sheet they had more RAM in them so yeah

00:29:43.520 --> 00:29:52.399
um there's another really cool thing that came out of the AMA on the AMD

00:29:48.399 --> 00:29:54.000
subreddit though this is really cool um

00:29:52.399 --> 00:29:59.360
blah blah blah why is there a huge discrepancy in gaming benchmarks okay

00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:06.000
blah blah etc oh yes this is really cool so I actually asked this at the event

00:30:02.320 --> 00:30:09.279
but I didn't get an answer and um Dr sue

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:11.760
did answer it in the AMA does do Ryzen

00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:18.480
CPUs support ECC memory and the answer is yes

00:30:13.679 --> 00:30:22.039
that's cool so they're low power and

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:26.640
they support ECC memory for so

00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:28.240
long Intel has held ECC kind of dangled

00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:35.440
it in front of us and gone "Oh you want this you want this you want this buy a

00:30:30.320 --> 00:30:37.840
Zeon woo buy a Zeon baby." Um I am so

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:43.200
happy to see consumer grade CPUs with ECC memory support i don't know that I

00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:47.279
would run out and build a frenaz machine with you know a Ryzen 3 immediately

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:52.960
after launch i think I want to give this platform some more time to prove itself

00:30:49.120 --> 00:30:55.399
yeah but this is going to be an absolute

00:30:52.960 --> 00:31:04.080
godsend to people who want to use ZFS on the cheap in their home .naz

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:06.960
because ZFS really does want ECC memory

00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:11.520
for the best operation and to reduce risk of data corruption

00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:15.200
and right now that means you've got to go out and buy a Zeon and unfortunately

00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:19.760
there's really not much in the way of cheap Zeon because either you're buying

00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:24.480
a full-on motherboard and Intel Xeon lineup really doesn't get like it's

00:31:21.679 --> 00:31:29.279
there's not like a you know a Celeron Zeon equivalent or you're buying like an

00:31:27.120 --> 00:31:33.360
embedded system that has a Zeon soldered on the board and those because they're

00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:39.360
Zeon are just not that cheap so this could be really cool cheapo ITX board

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:42.039
with an HBA on it and a Ryzen CPU and

00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:47.000
some ECC memory that could be a fantastic solution so I'm I'm pretty

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love Epipans video grabbers nasa yeah so

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does So does NASA apparently they're So these guys are based in Canada they've

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:10.960
got uh Can I Can I steal yours for a minute so I can hold it up that sounds

00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:15.839
risky no no it should be fine actually here you know what oh wow we're going to

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:19.679
put EP We're going to put EP Epan on the spot oh dang okay so uh you've just got

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:24.879
the doc open oh look at that you've got all the Epipan talking points up so go

00:34:21.359 --> 00:34:26.800
ahead oh wow epam uh AV.io video

00:34:24.879 --> 00:34:30.000
grabbers are quoted as the simplest way to share video and honestly in the

00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:33.040
experience that we've had with them that sounds fairly legitimate my screen just

00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:37.200
went black because of that but that makes sense that's not Epipan's fault

00:34:34.879 --> 00:34:42.560
that's just like this whole thing works so here it is it's a tiny little thing

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.720
like this HDMI in USB 3 in this is their

00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:49.760
AVIO 4K they've got a bunch of different models um I like the uh do not remove

00:34:47.520 --> 00:34:54.159
sticker yeah I I removed it from the bench den this is This is the Bench Den

00:34:51.839 --> 00:34:57.599
one bench do not remove i took it but but I took it for you yeah I know i

00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:02.880
appreciate yeah I took it for you um and basically they are as plugandplay as a

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:08.240
video capture device could possibly be no driver installed you just go bloop

00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:12.640
you plug in HDMI you open up whatever capture software it is that you want to

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:17.040
use and it automatically detects the resolution frame rate anything else you

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:20.880
could want and check this out live demo oh dang live demos are scary oh man this

00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:24.800
is exciting they're scary man they're good for sharing video in general you

00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.480
can do any computer with a USB port is pretty much how they quote that live

00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:32.400
event production gaming there it is boom boom i can even highlight what I'm

00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:36.079
talking about boom baby lecture capture if you want to be like a super baller

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teacher yeah that's right no it's awesome we love them check them out over

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at Oh I'm not on the right thing check them out over at

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epipan.comavvioan um can't say enough good things we went from like when WAN

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:52.400
show can't stay live because of technical difficulties to being able to

00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:57.920
like unplug stuff and plug it back in while we're going that's right that's

00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.000
right um and finally Ant Lion Audio is

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:05.520
sponsoring the WAN Show now this raises a lot of questions question number one

00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:09.760
why would Ant Lion want to sponsor you guys when every time you feature their

00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:14.560
product for some reason it sounds worse than when other people feature their

00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:16.480
product so we're super incompetent

00:36:14.560 --> 00:36:21.839
apparently um actually I know what happened last time so last time what

00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:25.520
happened was we were using the Mod Mic 5

00:36:21.839 --> 00:36:27.359
on like a Sennheiser wireless mic pack

00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:32.320
instead of just like recording into What was the last time that was That was the

00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.320
pre-roll that I just did

00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:42.720
so we were we were using it with sort of a nonvalidated use case and Pella said

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:44.160
it was fine and it wasn't fine and we

00:36:42.720 --> 00:36:48.800
should have just recorded it into a computer because the funny thing about that is that really wouldn't have been

00:36:47.200 --> 00:36:53.839
that hard no we could have just plugged it into a computer and put it on the table and recorded it and synced it up

00:36:52.320 --> 00:37:02.720
after the fact like that would have been fine but anyway uh so the Mod Mic 5 is a

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.920
great way to add a decent sounding mic to your existing pair of headphones

00:37:04.640 --> 00:37:11.119
something that is actually kind of difficult to do either you have to put something on your desk which can get in

00:37:08.720 --> 00:37:14.560
your way or a lot of people use like an inline one that's on a cord but often

00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:18.560
those don't work very well especially when you move around so the Mod Mic

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.520
works just like a normal boom mic except it just clips it there's a little

00:37:20.160 --> 00:37:24.880
sticker that goes on the side of your existing probably audio file grade

00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:29.040
headphones that's what a lot of people use them for and then there's a cool

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:33.440
little magnetic thing that allows you to flip it up or put it down or even just

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:38.160
take it off or even just take it off outright one way that Okay so the way

00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:42.800
that I use mine right now is I'm very rarely on like voice calls when I'm at

00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:46.400
my computer desk at work so it's just disconnected but sitting on my desk

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:50.320
plugged into an extension cable to my computer so if I ever do need to use it

00:37:48.720 --> 00:37:53.359
I just clip it back on because I don't even I don't even need to just flip it

00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:58.640
up because I might not use it for a couple days at a time it's got a dual mic capsule for recording flexibility a

00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:04.640
cable wrap to protect your wires and includes the Ant Lion Mute module so you

00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:09.440
can buy it now for 70 bucks US over at Ant Lion Audio's website and oh cool you

00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:14.079
can enter our giveaway which will be linked in the video description uh I can

00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:18.640
make that right now oh yeah or linked in the Twitch chat you got it i got it okay

00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:25.720
um or linked in the Twitch chat to win one of three Mod Mic Fives or a Hi-Fi

00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:29.599
Man Edition S and Mod Mic 5 combo

00:38:25.720 --> 00:38:31.680
cool all right more topics wow every

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:37.440
topic we've done has actually been like pretty deep so um if you feel like this

00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:43.280
is the best W show of your life you can tweet at

00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:48.640
James_Gravity who pledges to 100% reply

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:51.280
to every single tweet wow okay please

00:38:48.640 --> 00:38:57.440
his whole his whole life is full of regret starting now someone should

00:38:54.599 --> 00:39:03.760
Okay uh we're not encouraging people to use a should not

00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:05.839
someone should not definitely make a bot

00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:11.440
no no no i knew you were gonna Don't do that i said not someone should not Don't

00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:18.320
do that make a bot don't do that james is a good person we hope that would pull

00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.520
from like an Intel mesh set don't do

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:23.520
that Intel responds machine learning

00:39:21.520 --> 00:39:31.839
Intel responds they're all unique to Ryzen said he'd have no idea by cutting

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:34.079
prices on Core i5 and Core i7 processors

00:39:31.839 --> 00:39:39.079
wait a minute how old is this article february 26th no wait did that ever even

00:39:36.680 --> 00:39:42.440
happen is this from MicroEnter i think this is just Oh wait

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:47.200
on Amazon hold on okay hold on hold on just

00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.280
a just a gosh darn minute here okay so far at Microenter yeah yeah that might

00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:56.839
just be MicroEnter doing things hold on hold on hold on

00:39:53.200 --> 00:39:59.200
i'm doing real time investigative

00:39:56.839 --> 00:40:05.040
journalism where I see if prices have been dropped they have not this is the

00:40:01.839 --> 00:40:08.560
price of a 7700 K ignore that and I will

00:40:05.040 --> 00:40:10.160
go yell at James after the W show wow

00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:15.680
you should all tweet him with your totally not

00:40:12.520 --> 00:40:17.359
bots that he didn't do that right uh

00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:24.880
word on the street the original article here is from hotware the NVIDIA GTX 1080

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:28.720
Ti reportedly in production for a March

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:31.520
launch reportedly um it's coming out

00:40:28.720 --> 00:40:36.760
next week we know that already wait a minute when is this article from this is

00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:40.560
from the 20th of February james james

00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.560
okay okay James you guys you know what

00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:47.200
i'm not going to talk to him you guys talk to him for me okay you guys talk to

00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:52.599
him okay this is actually new mike Pence's email hacked so the original

00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:56.319
article from BBC uh Mike Pence was

00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:59.160
apparently um

00:40:56.319 --> 00:41:04.720
uh you storing like public like government related stuff on

00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:07.720
a private email server why is this so

00:41:04.720 --> 00:41:07.720
common

00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:13.280
and uh yeah so so he used a private he

00:41:11.359 --> 00:41:17.599
used a private email as the Indiana governor to conduct state business now

00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:24.880
with that said we have to also be careful not to not to blow this out of

00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:35.680
proportion because my understanding is that that isn't illegal there now

00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:37.200
um I mean should that be okay no and

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:42.359
apparently he knew all this while attacking Hillary's email practices

00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:45.359
which is sort of hilarious yes

00:41:42.359 --> 00:41:47.680
apparently many of Pence's email uh

00:41:45.359 --> 00:41:52.240
contacts received emails saying Mr pence and his wife had become stranded in the

00:41:49.760 --> 00:42:00.400
Philippines and urgently needed money so this wasn't like a vigilante like they

00:41:56.560 --> 00:42:03.839
were just trying to make money yeah so

00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.000
so that's a thing so um you know

00:42:03.839 --> 00:42:11.359
personally I'm shocked i mean something hypocritical about the Trump

00:42:07.839 --> 00:42:13.119
administration and its and its uh

00:42:11.359 --> 00:42:19.599
members that would never happen no I have no idea what you're talking about don't believe it google's a Google

00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:21.599
Assistant AI now available for all

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:25.359
modern Android handsets which is which is an interesting way of putting that

00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:32.000
because an Android handset can be pretty darn modern but not have um Android M or

00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:35.280
N yeah so there's that you can try to figure out how to make it actually

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:40.480
answer in a conversational tone like I do um it's a little difficult sometimes

00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:43.599
takes a few shots yeah it should be and the frustrating part is when it decides

00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:46.960
to end the conversation by just giving you a Google search link and you're like

00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:51.920
well got to start from the beginning again it's a really good really good way

00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:55.800
for that to work voice interaction is like so bad like I it's one of those

00:42:54.000 --> 00:43:00.240
things where like this is a big deal because this was a pixel pixel feature

00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:05.680
that for some reason some people cared about and now it's I thought rolling out

00:43:03.520 --> 00:43:12.800
wider it's going to be super cool i'm very excited for private voice activated

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:14.680
AI i'm not very excited for cloud

00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:18.480
someone will make it eventually yeah that's way far out but someone will make

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:23.760
it eventually the the current setups for voice

00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:25.839
activated AI is scary and sketchy and

00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:31.200
once like way down the line someone makes it private I will set that up all

00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:34.880
right so anyway the timing of this is interesting samsung is rumored to be

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:39.680
launching its Bixby Assistant on the Galaxy S8 which will probably also be

00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:45.240
terrible um and by the time that launches Google Assistant should also be

00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:48.800
available on the Galaxy S8 so it'll be

00:43:45.240 --> 00:43:50.720
uh it'll be uh you know game on between

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:54.560
the two how do you install assistant just update Google Play Services so

00:43:53.040 --> 00:44:02.560
sounds like you're getting it whether you really want it or not cool nice um

00:43:59.680 --> 00:44:08.160
All right fantastic cbc

00:44:04.520 --> 00:44:09.760
claims that Subway chicken is only 50%

00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:15.359
chicken subway defends its chicken after a CBC

00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:21.839
marketplace report calling the story false and misleading but CBC stands

00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:29.040
behind the DNA test result so they found it was 50% soy wow however food

00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:32.800
scientists have chimed in saying DNA tests aren't their preferred method of

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:37.920
testing subsequent tests by third parties and Subway itself indicate the

00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:43.440
chicken is less than 1% soy apparently that is present due to added spices and

00:44:40.839 --> 00:44:49.079
marinade so there you go now you know they have lots of soy in their spices

00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.680
and marinade ours Technica

00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:58.640
reports and good this was only yesterday good job James how game mode will make

00:44:54.720 --> 00:45:02.000
games run better on Windows plus details

00:44:58.640 --> 00:45:06.560
on strict limitations for UWP apps

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:08.640
running on the Xbox One so in a nutshell

00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:13.200
game mode will apparently isolate CPU resources to be devoted exclusively to

00:45:10.560 --> 00:45:17.200
that game process um now that's not something that I would expect to affect

00:45:15.359 --> 00:45:21.680
average frame rates much but it's something that I might expect especially

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:26.960
on systems that are only marginally able to run a game something that I might

00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:28.720
expect to affect like hiccups so you

00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:33.480
know and I mean okay this isn't something that I've experienced since

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:37.119
like the Athlon XP era maybe maybe at that point okay it's

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:41.839
not something I've experienced since like the Athlon X2 era but there would

00:45:40.319 --> 00:45:45.760
have been times in the past where getting an instant message and having

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:51.040
something pop up from your uh from your taskbar or from your system tray would

00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:56.079
have caused a game stutter that was a long time ago but

00:45:53.800 --> 00:46:00.319
theoretically this could help prevent Now people run like video wallpapers and

00:45:58.720 --> 00:46:04.880
stuff that's like really common now wallpaper

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:09.839
engine it's like a software you can buy on Steam oh remember like a long time

00:46:07.680 --> 00:46:14.160
ago when through VC you could like set a video as your background yeah and uh

00:46:12.319 --> 00:46:17.839
Windows Vista Ultimate had that as a feature too yeah yeah now it's like

00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:22.319
there's a program on Steam called I think it's Wallpaper Engine

00:46:19.680 --> 00:46:29.119
unfortunately most of them are just like weird mostly nude drawn animated girls

00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:33.200
but there's a search bar so I found like a really cool Titanfall helmet when it's

00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:38.640
doing like the blinking thing after the credits and an Assassin's Creed flag cuz

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:40.400
I haven't changed since I was 18 so here

00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:44.599
we go wow that was a really cool story

00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:49.800
wonderful um the system moves threads

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:55.200
devoted to other processors off unfortunately you can choose

00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:58.960
whatever you want i won't judge you uh the system gives an even greater

00:46:56.720 --> 00:47:02.480
majority of C of GPU cycles to the active game reducing the time available

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.319
for what is everything else what else is using the GPU like what are you

00:47:04.160 --> 00:47:10.720
rendering crap in Adobe Media Encoder with Mercury Engine like in the

00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:15.839
background i mean if you're doing that you deserve to have a crappy gaming

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:19.839
experience um all right let's see the Switch launch

00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:24.240
is going really well apparently they're going to be shipping 2 million by the end of the month i don't think that's

00:47:22.720 --> 00:47:28.720
how many are sold because a lot of sites are just not taking purchases like you

00:47:26.720 --> 00:47:32.079
can't even pre you can't even like pre-purchase one when they're available

00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.480
almost anywhere because no one knows how much stock they're getting because it's

00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:40.319
Nintendo um but as they've like how can

00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:42.720
such a big company be so disorganized

00:47:40.319 --> 00:47:46.599
yeah as they've already shipped two million units and the Wii U only ever

00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:52.319
shipped so far 13 56 around there wow they're doing

00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:57.200
pretty good compared to the predecessor fascinating

00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.640
all right um what else we got here we've

00:47:57.200 --> 00:48:02.000
got some other interesting topics i think we're nearing the end are we we

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:07.280
could Yeah yeah we actually started mostly on Oh yeah psvr has sold almost a

00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:13.200
million units which is estimated to be nearly twice that of the Rift and the

00:48:10.240 --> 00:48:16.880
Vive combined so many people for so long have been telling me that in my VR

00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:19.440
scripts when I talk about how the cost of everything combined is really

00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:25.119
expensive they're like "No but the computers are pretty cheap now." Like no

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:29.520
it doesn't matter you're getting into a realm of expense which is just too much

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:34.000
for so many people it doesn't matter that like it's really good yeah it's

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:40.240
like it's like car people you know what car people I find are some of the worst

00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:43.559
about this where they'll be like "But a

00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:47.720
BMW drives so much better." And I'll be

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:50.960
like "Wow who cares?"

00:48:47.720 --> 00:48:52.480
Oh I mean maybe okay maybe BMW is a bad

00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:58.880
example because some of their some of their lower-end stuff is actually somewhat attainable um so what would

00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:04.400
what would I compare it to like we know someone who's relatively young that has

00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:07.599
one yeah yeah that's true okay okay bmw

00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:09.760
is a bad example what how do I Okay see

00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:14.400
as not a car person it's hard for me to even remember the obnoxious car people

00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:20.800
things that Okay okay when when when rear cameras first showed up

00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:23.040
mhm and people would be like "But this

00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:28.079
is so much better." And I'd be like "Right but that's only available that's

00:49:25.359 --> 00:49:32.000
only even available on trim levels that cost double what the base model does

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:39.760
that's more that's more what I'm going for." Like uh I remember in high school

00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:42.240
uh one of my one of my friends his mom

00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:47.040
had an SUV so remember this is back in like 2003 had an SUV she had a backup

00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:52.960
camera back then that's balling she had GPS so she had GPS that was like built

00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:57.280
in that was built in and she had windshield wipers that detected whether

00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:03.200
there was rain on the windshield or not damn and only went if there was like too

00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.040
much rain like back in 03 and he's like

00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:10.240
telling me how great his mom's car is and I'm like cool like it doesn't matter

00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:17.359
how much better it is because I can do this or this and turn my windshield

00:50:13.040 --> 00:50:21.040
wipers on yeah i I don't have you know

00:50:17.359 --> 00:50:23.440
120 130 grand to spend on an SUV i just

00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:28.559
I don't have that hurts me physically it doesn't matter how much better it is um

00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:31.359
so there that's more the point I was trying to make

00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:39.520
uh okay okay so the reason why I don't

00:50:36.319 --> 00:50:41.280
own any cloud connected kids toys so

00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:47.440
this was uh this was actually I saw this on a tweet from uh Troy Hunt here data

00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:53.280
from connected cloud pets teddy bears leaked and ransomed exposing kids voice

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:59.119
messages that's conversations between the child and others can be recorded and

00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:06.160
forwarded looks like a very cute toy and all that

00:51:01.200 --> 00:51:08.280
but um Oh my god my kids do not own

00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:13.599
anything connected to the internet and they won't until they're

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.680
old enough to understand what it means to have something connected to the

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:21.920
internet messages were stored in a database that was p that was in a

00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:27.200
publicly facing network segment without any authentication required and had been

00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:33.119
indexed by Showdown wow over

00:51:29.319 --> 00:51:36.240
820,000 users data uh had or over

00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.839
820,000 users had data exposed 2.2

00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:42.200
million voice recordings of parents and their children

00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:46.559
um wow

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:51.200
fantastic okay apparently this is probably the Samsung Galaxy

00:51:48.520 --> 00:51:57.920
S8 i haven't actually looked at this yet apparently it might have a curved screen

00:51:53.720 --> 00:51:58.839
hey and wow no buttons oh wow well

00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:05.920
that's a shame um

00:52:01.319 --> 00:52:07.839
okay hm that is a shame missing the

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:13.520
physical and capacitive blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the uh Did you know

00:52:10.240 --> 00:52:15.839
that the G6 has a non like it has a a

00:52:13.520 --> 00:52:19.920
wider than usual aspect ratio no does this kind of look like it also does sort

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:24.000
of does i I really hope that that looks like a WCO photo yeah okay from what I

00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:28.640
can tell I really hope that doesn't turn into a thing i plan to I plan to kind of

00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:36.160
crap on that in my G6 review which will be coming um because we

00:52:32.200 --> 00:52:38.800
finally finally achieved it video

00:52:36.160 --> 00:52:42.720
content and screens being the same shape like we waited so long for this for

00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:47.599
everyone to just kind of get their act together for so first on computers we

00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:51.119
had 4x3 screens then we had 5x4 screens

00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:54.400
for some freaking reason why what anyway

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:56.240
so we got that then then we got 16 by 10

00:52:54.400 --> 00:53:03.200
okay so we we were getting close i like that i liked 16x10 too because the black

00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:05.280
bars were reasonable but I also see why

00:53:03.200 --> 00:53:10.800
people might prefer to especially as screens got bigger to give up a little

00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:15.200
bit of their relative you know vertical space i would still like it for no black

00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:20.559
bars i would I get it i would still personally like a 16 x10 but I get it

00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:22.880
okay so so so so we got that far then

00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:28.280
the only aspect ratio we really got on monitors and I'm excluding things like

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:31.280
the Surface Studio or um you know the

00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:33.599
Surface uh Surface Pro like where you

00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:37.760
know like tablets um surfaces all in one yeah basically surfaces okay so other

00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:44.000
than surfaces monitors we stuck with that or recently introduced ultrawide so

00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:50.480
21 by9 which happens to be very similar to theatrical widescreen so there we go

00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:53.119
tvs and it's drastically different tvs

00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:59.760
monitors and then Apple finally did it with the iPhone 6 so TVs monitors and

00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:08.319
mobile devices other than tablets all went 16 by9 and everything was bueno and

00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:11.440
nobody had black bars we We don't need

00:54:08.319 --> 00:54:13.760
to move away from from that 16 by9 is

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:17.119
fine yes it's fine there's there's no compelling reason that I can think of to

00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:25.040
change it um Sony this is actually really cool

00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:28.880
debuts the world's fastest SD cards up

00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:31.119
to around 300 megabytes wow Anantech has

00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.119
those

00:54:32.040 --> 00:54:40.800
now dang it Dr cutras um write speeds of

00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.280
299 megabytes per second how sad they

00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:48.079
couldn't get was the engineer one more who couldn't squeeze one more megabyte

00:54:45.040 --> 00:54:50.520
per second out of it poor guy how sad

00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:57.680
was he or she um so there you go up to 128 Gigabyte

00:54:54.520 --> 00:55:01.200
capacities and as long as the reader is

00:54:57.680 --> 00:55:03.440
UHS2 compliant they are able to handle

00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:09.839
almost 300 megabytes per second reads and rights this is getting up to around

00:55:05.680 --> 00:55:12.040
SATA 2 like saturating wait yes

00:55:09.839 --> 00:55:17.280
saturating SATA 2 speeds that is fantastic they're not saying how they're

00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:21.559
getting that in an SD card only saying that it is enabled by

00:55:19.640 --> 00:55:26.559
firmware which is like okay thanks but the cards are also

00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:31.200
waterproof shockproof temperature resistant and X-ray

00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:35.920
proof cool they're announcing a card reader specifically built for them with

00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:38.400
built-in super speed USB 3.1 Gen 1 that

00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:45.520
should leave standard SD slots in the dust we're going to be over time uh oh

00:55:41.359 --> 00:55:47.359
what time is it oh oh wow oh oh oh we

00:55:45.520 --> 00:55:51.839
should uh we should uh we should talk about Flowplane Club hooray hooray do

00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:55.359
the thing do you have anything exciting to share with anybody i'm putting you on

00:55:53.760 --> 00:56:00.480
the spot a little bit i think the the website version has a password reset

00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:03.440
that works now okay that's exciting yeah

00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:07.280
I mean there okay the uh website version that definitely doesn't exist i mean we

00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:12.559
could share that I guess now that we spilled the beans on it no no oh cuz

00:56:10.720 --> 00:56:16.880
they'd see that no no no no not to show it to them no no just that it will that

00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:21.280
there will be one oh yeah okay cuz I actually had some people asking um in

00:56:19.040 --> 00:56:26.000
the Floatplane club like private i haven't I haven't been like announcing

00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:31.040
it but I haven't been hiding it either so we've had people asking will float

00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:36.160
plane club always be and here's what it looks like now so this is Floatplane

00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:39.920
club will it always be a janky sub forum

00:56:36.160 --> 00:56:44.079
on the Linus TechTips website no

00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:47.599
definitely not uh development is very

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:52.400
actively happening um Luke is working on

00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:56.359
it and X saying in slightly under now

00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:59.280
three months ah okay and possibly

00:56:56.359 --> 00:57:05.599
allegedly we might have also someone else working on it um that person's

00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.359
currently on probation but that's like

00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:11.280
that's just like BC law that's not because like we hate hate them that's

00:57:10.240 --> 00:57:16.559
just sort of how that works that's just kind of how it works um but but we this

00:57:14.319 --> 00:57:21.680
is definitely a real development project it is definitely happening and uh the

00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:26.400
way that you sign up is you go to the store on the Linus Tech Tips forum so

00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:30.960
I'll show you guys what that looks like and then you go to Floatplane club

00:57:29.040 --> 00:57:35.040
actually all the other contributor tiers are also have access to Floatplane club

00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:40.720
but for now they don't actually have a ton of benefit beyond that you get a

00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:43.359
fancy badge and access to the the the

00:57:40.720 --> 00:57:46.720
tier exclusive sub forum the only one of which that matters is the bronze one cuz

00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:51.440
we have a counting thread in there and we count by images so the image that you

00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:54.960
post has to have the number in it i contributed a thing there it was really

00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:58.640
funny i forget what it was but I thought it was really funny i think I saw it and

00:57:56.799 --> 00:58:02.160
I think I enjoyed it a lot of them are good it's It seems like people genuinely

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:08.640
like take time to find one that's sort of cool yeah um we're at like almost I

00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:14.400
think we're at like 850ish or something so basically you sign up in the store

00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:16.400
and you can see uh up here there you go

00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:21.280
there's a Floatplane club link that goes in there and from accounting

00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:24.640
threads in chat oh excellent and then you get access to a week's

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:31.440
worth of content and there's other stuff that we have planned for it as well so all what we already have working is

00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:37.760
there's a week's worth of releases that are not on YouTube yet and then what we

00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:41.760
also have working is that the bit rates are higher at a given resolution it

00:58:40.240 --> 00:58:45.280
looks better on full length so it looks better and for a lot of people more

00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:49.920
importantly actually sounds better so we don't compress the audio very much at

00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:55.720
all um let's see what So what do we have on here that is not on YouTube yet the

00:58:52.799 --> 00:59:01.680
server room server room update vlog is there um so we we can maybe explain why

00:58:58.720 --> 00:59:05.680
that's not on YouTube yeah so oh yeah a lot of people have asked us like what's

00:59:03.359 --> 00:59:10.319
the deal with sometimes the early access platform having stuff for two or three

00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:14.400
weeks before it hits YouTube and what happens sometimes is when we do a

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:19.200
simultaneous release in order to not screw up our calendar planning um

00:59:17.359 --> 00:59:23.599
because we won't launch two videos in a day on YouTube that's not going to

00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.839
happen it what what happens is it causes

00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:31.599
the first video to like get buried a little bit of cascading yeah um so like

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:33.440
this week with like Ryzen 1080 Ti

00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:38.960
Nintendo Switch which I believe is coming out tomorrow night uh tomorrow

00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:42.880
like noon noon yeah okay tomorrow like midday yeah um or maybe slightly earlier

00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:46.960
i might stomp on W show and just hit it a little bit earlier but u basically uh

00:59:45.520 --> 00:59:51.119
what happens is that if we do a simultaneous release YouTube already got

00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:55.359
a video that day so that one actually gets pushed down an entire additional

00:59:52.880 --> 01:00:00.480
week because on a normal week we would only do maybe one or maybe two

00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:04.960
simultaneous releases so we can't just like bump it to the next day because

01:00:02.799 --> 01:00:08.720
then it screws up like that one it screws up everything until we can reset

01:00:06.799 --> 01:00:13.280
it the following week so So that's the way that works so anyway what's on there

01:00:10.319 --> 01:00:20.880
now is the server room update vlog part three finale um Luke's not so secret

01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:24.480
obsession Analog NT Mini yes we've got

01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:27.760
Windows 9 the OS Microsoft won't tell

01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:29.760
you about uh we've got one about EVGA's

01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:34.240
new thermal solution for their cards where they've they believe and actually

01:00:32.319 --> 01:00:40.160
looks pretty good um that they've solved card overheating problems once and for

01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:43.440
all uh we've got uh a rundown of every

01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:46.799
AMD Radeon card tested look at that

01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:49.200
thumbnail look at how his mouth is open

01:00:46.799 --> 01:00:54.079
look at how Look at how we blew up the size of all the video cards so that

01:00:51.359 --> 01:00:58.720
they'd be bigger no no so I held them out like that i really did but they

01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:02.480
would only be like this big like look at how like think about how big a video

01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:07.760
card is relative to my hand yeah looks pretty good i think I did it nice um and

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:12.880
then check this out there's So it's AMD video cards through the ages so there's

01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:15.920
uh a clock and a dinosaur it's really subtle though

01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:22.319
we're We're still working on this whole thing we take time with our clickbait yes that's right so there you go that's

01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:26.480
how it works it's a video player just like you would expect a video player to

01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:30.799
be that's good we've even got cool features like check this out see we have

01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:36.319
thumbnail uh thumbnail preview so you can skip to the part of the video where

01:01:33.040 --> 01:01:39.720
Check this out this is amazing oh god

01:01:36.319 --> 01:01:42.799
card on the left photoshopped in

01:01:39.720 --> 01:01:46.480
what taran did it Photoshop and we

01:01:42.799 --> 01:01:48.559
didn't have one oh my god

01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:52.880
even the shadow is fake so I think he like pulled chunks of this shadow and

01:01:50.720 --> 01:01:56.960
like put it over there and then Good job T yeah it's like just it's I don't even

01:01:54.960 --> 01:02:02.240
know if this is a is a photograph i think this is like a render off of AMD's

01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:06.799
like press kit holy crap yeah um the

01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:10.160
press kit the 2900 XT that's pretty sick

01:02:06.799 --> 01:02:12.720
yeah so anyway um got lots of videos

01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:16.400
over there and we've got lots and lots of plans for this in the future it's

01:02:15.040 --> 01:02:21.920
going to be a pretty freaking unbelievable platform we hope um but

01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:26.319
there's a lot of work to be done and we're not even answering questions about

01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:32.160
when it'll launch um what is really cool is do we want to talk about how we added

01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:34.559
more capacity nope oh okay nope okay we

01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:37.839
didn't just don't even want to nope there's a website coming we're working

01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:41.760
on it a lot there's a website coming we're working on it a lot there's

01:02:39.839 --> 01:02:46.160
there's some serious infrastructure involved in serving the number of people

01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:52.760
that we're serving on Floatplane Club which what I'll say is that it's

01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:52.760
probably more than you think

01:02:52.799 --> 01:02:59.920
that's all I can really say in fact there's I pretty much guarantee it is

01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:04.079
more people than you think and um there's been some challenges but I think

01:03:02.160 --> 01:03:07.359
I demonstrated the responsiveness of the player there's still like that weird

01:03:05.680 --> 01:03:10.960
glitchiness when we change resolutions like it goes back to the thumbnail for a

01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:15.520
second and but then like it's pretty fast um yeah we're we're really excited

01:03:13.359 --> 01:03:21.520
about it team's been working really hard thank you you know who you are yeah do

01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:25.680
you know who you are no existential questions i don't I don't even know who

01:03:22.799 --> 01:03:28.880
you are get Get How did you get in here get Get out of Get out of here thanks

01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:34.119
for watching the WAN Show guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same

01:03:30.799 --> 01:03:34.119
bad channel

01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:58.300
okay
