yeah we're back welcome to the WAN Show guys we are gonna have a great show for
you guys this week actually this week was like drama central very much so yeah
like Oh like everybody yeah there's like
Okay okay so top topics this is amazing california High School makes $24 million
off the Snapchat IPO
like what what ridiculous like h how is that even
apparently they invested I guess no we're not talking about this right now
moving on um yeah so Uber plans to turn
its app into a content marketplace
during rides totally needed that and any
other opinion is just invalid AMD responds to weak 1080p gaming results on
Ryzen and Intel responds to strong
gaming results at other resolutions on Ryzen by slashing the pricing of their
Core i7 and Core i5 processors by a lot
it just got real kids let's roll the intro
hopefully this is reflected in used processors
you know someone complained about the fact that we talked
over the music in the intro and said it was like really unprofessional and we
should stop doing that i always liked that in show who cares in any show where
they like talked over it I was like "Hey cool."
Not even that i don't even think it's cool i just think it's completely
irrelevant right who cares
yeah we're talking we're we're we're here i mean they're like "Yeah they
forget to turn off the We didn't forget to turn it off we specifically turn it
on." No I I turn it on
like okay before we had a USB audio interface I would specifically have the
HDMI in because we were using camera audio in and I would specifically have
that HDMI source sitting under the intro
so that if we're chatting behind it you guys can hear You definitely hear it
yeah i mean coming at you live that's right coming at you live not
pre-recorded or is it oh damn
would it really matter
okay so let's get into this one first of all the original article here is from
CBC.ca i got it the Oh I'm sorry we've both got
it you know what everybody's got it look at this everybody's got it no we both
got it look at that look at how we can both share our screens now a California
high school makes $24 million in the Snapchat IPO now hold
on can I Can I jump in with a question first yeah 100% why are schools allowed
to invest money i can answer that okay good this is a private school
i see this is a private Catholic high school in California Silicon Valley they
agreed to invest $15,000 in seed money into Snapchat in 2012 that happened
because one of the students parents is a VC venture capitalist so was like able
to push this through they bought that $15,000 worth of shares which totals
600,000
shares they sold 1.4 Oh oh no they they
Okay they had 2 million shares they sold
1.4 4 million shares at $17 during
Snapchat's IPO this week generating about $24 million but they still have
600,000 shares which is still worth like $17 million
holy crap investment man investment wow how
is it that technology companies don't do much but gamble make millions of dollars
i mean how are how are these companies worth this kind of money snapchat so
okay so this was the biggest social media IPO since Twitter more than three
years ago shares closed at 2448 a piece so $2448 a piece which
means Snapchat is now valued at 28
billion now just
to 28 billion it's an astronomical
amount their net loss is still higher
than their
revenue how do we assign value to these
companies it just keeps happening investors don't have a clear picture of
how the company plans to become profitable i mean to me how how how do
you even figure that out like we are this far in the hole to be
like a 75% gain over loss company at 28
billion what do we need to do it's like
where are we going to pull $28 billion
out of our rectums oh man and I bet you
someone could Snapchat you and show you how oh I wouldn't want to see that
snap i mean I'm like I'm down but no I'm
not down
and he's gone you know I had to go after you when
you're going to take a big drink of water like that oh my god I almost lost
it okay i mean all all I all I had to do to make you spit it all over the screen
was say "Send that snap Luke take a deep
breath." Terrible um oh jeez so user
growth slowed in the fourth quarter um
and there's skepticism as to how big the company's
advertising business i mean I mean the whole the whole model of like a lot of
users look at our junk okay that came across wrong um a lot a Okay it's
Snapchat so okay okay so a lot of users
look at our junk online um therefore you should put ads on our
junk and users would see those ads this
is working really well um and users will see those ads and they will maybe buy
your product or sign up for your service i mean we're going to get to the point
where the valuation and expected revenue
of the companies who entire whose entire
business model is like other companies
selling stuff through them the value of these companies is going to be bigger
than the ones who are actually producing
products or making services you're
making fun of our own company right i'm not making fun
look okay yes we But we're Okay we don't expect
that our market cap is higher than Intel's though that's the difference
yeah that's fair yeah yeah we are not evaluated at 28 billion and here's the
thing too i think if we're looking at a company like Snapchat going like "Yes
there's huge advertising potential here." like that advertising money has
to come from somewhere and I think there's still a lot of room for
traditional media to bleed um I mean TV
advertising really doesn't make a ton of sense to me i mean you can look at big
shows like big shows like Adventure Time
or you know the Big Bang Theory Game of
Thrones game of Thrones well Game of Thrones is a bad example it's HBO so so
I'm talking ad supported shows okay you
look at these big shows and you kind of go "Okay so they had like like okay what
are South Park's ratings over the last year?" South Park ratings you know maybe
they had 5 million or 10 million people
who tuned who tuned into the premiere let's have a Let's have a look south
Park uh no no where's the uh where's the episodes come on come on come on come on
come on come on come on come on episodes
here we go list of episodes there we go okay so show Lake South Park recent
season wow you got to scroll through a lot of seasons for this particular
show okay here here we go we got uh an
estimated 1.3 to 2 million and change US viewers
of a season premiere and I look at the
prices that that is not thought it would
be for well it's fallen a lot you look at the prices that you pay for cable
advertising and we look at sort of the rates that we're allowed to charge that
that we can get sponsors to pay for inclusion in our videos and I'm sitting
here going like our video could actually
get more viewership on the ad especially
given that like
No not really given anything u I mean I'm I'm I'm saying given that it's
shorter so given that people don't won't really tune in and out of it in the same
way but people do skip around in YouTube videos so I took it back before I said
it but then I said it but then I explained why I took it back before I said it absolutely fair then I explained
the whole thing so my but my point is that there's still room for companies to
clue in that just that that standard
quarterly spend you'd be surprised
i No no i'm What I mean is that there's still there is No I'm agreeing with them
saying to them you'd be surprised there's still a lot of room for them to
clue in that a viewer on YouTube is also
a viewer the same way as a viewer on Comedy Central or NBC or whatever the
case may be um but with that said I do
think that it is hard for someone like
Snapchat i think that Facebook has actually set kind of an unrealistic bar
for other online advertising platforms both Facebook and Google um where
everyone looked at the Facebook IPO with a lot of skepticism figured they were
overvalued ha they've gone up in value because they've been really smart about
it and Facebook because it knows so much
about you advertises to you so well
snapchat i'm not convinced that the way people use Snapchat and the demographic
that uses Snapchat is going to be as
easily influenced by an online ad as the
demographic that uses Facebook and the
user habits of a of a typical Facebook user would you agree with that yes i
mean if I it's like it's like putting advertising in WhatsApp even Facebook
hasn't bothered to try to do that because I'm here to communicate with
people you put an ad in it I will go use a different messaging app and there will
like always be another one and there will all there will always be another
one because there will it's like a gold rush right yeah so there will always be
a bunch of teams of developers with these incredible resumes of all the
billion dollar companies that they came from cashed out and decided to start
their own to turn their billions into billions cubed or whatever whatever
whatever target it is however many more Teslas they need or Priuses i mean it's
San Fran so that's basically the only two options
um one one interesting tidbit before we
continue um a lot of people in the chat thought we missed the outro and uh the
word I think the word restart has been like banned now thank you Ghost because
everyone was just spamming or the intro sorry they're just spamming the crap out
of it i think it's just cuz we were mostly on time
so So people like didn't see it oh yeah we started like 15 minutes ago so
there's that so we definitely did the intro the intro
has definitely been completed there is no restarting that's going to happen and
I believe there was audio too and if you start spamming restarting chat like a
whole bunch of you just did it's just going to bing um because the the LTT
chatbot is merciless okay so here's my
final point on the Snapchat IPO i think that Facebook set unrealistic
expectations for for a social media
platform going public and then when
everyone was skeptical they went ahead and they exceeded even the most bullish
expectations and so now I think it has
set the stage for these other companies to be to be valued in in a in a
different way like people are invested in Facebook for the long term now
instead of just like you know jumping on the bandwagon making a quick buck and
getting TFO uh I don't know that Snapchat will enjoy that kind of
long-term success because if they ever
want to actually be profitable they do have to figure out how to compete with
someone like Facebook and Google and I'm I'm really not that convinced yeah like
ever uh speaking of things that I'm not convinced about let's pull up this
article from TechCrunch that
um really doesn't make a ton of sense to me but maybe uh did you post it in chat
already nope that's fine well no it's fine i can Well you can do it someone
can do it someone will do it here we can watch Luke do it now
we're watching you do it on the internet
my girlfriend would be pretty pissed off and terrible terrible i I love how
you're like my girlfriend would be pissed off
you just have no problem with it right do I interpret this correctly you're my
boss man wait so that makes it better or worse
i'm just doing my job
we have all kinds of jobs around here dirty jobs done dirt cheap even um okay
so Uber plans to turn its app into a
content marketplace and then they they they
actually kind of had my attention until
the last part of the headline where it
goes during rides so a series of thirdparty apps
would provide you with information about the area you are going to work in
productivity integrations communications with the place you are going to
specifically or just standard entertainment because people can't
multitask and go to Google I guess and they want to charge
you for that i think
um the marketplace will be based on a new version of trip experiences a
smaller feature first launched a year ago with a select group of partners okay
so I see I see some I see some potential
here so if it's free if the idea is that
the the you get in your Uber or like
Okay so I don't if it's free sure yeah i don't look at the Uber app again after I
call the Uber i do sometimes you do okay
make sure the driver's staying on course or Okay okay i've I've gotten screwed
before and Uber is really good about like if you can prove that you got
screwed on your driving path they'll give you money back cool okay so if the
idea then is here's a cool restaurant
and they expect the restaurant to give them a cut of whatever it is or here's a
tourist destination or here's a tour that you can take or whatever the case
may be then I kind of get it if they're going to try and like sell me a movie to
watch then I think that's going to be uh
that's going to be less less successful
um yeah okay i I guess that's pretty
much all I have to say about that some of this stuff sounds really
stupid like they're pushing contextual engagement that might for example enable
a Snapchat user to unlock special stickers or
filters okay this next one's kind of cool though it could showcase Instagram
pictures of the destination you're headed to yeah but you could search on
Instagram you could but having it all in one place is like an automatic people
don't like to actually do that it's going to be like the airport like
like it's Uber you're not traveling across the country yeah that's true i
mean maybe part of this is that the way that people like you and me use Uber
might be a little different than the way that some people use Uber because my
understanding and guys correct me if I'm wrong ask people
how they use i'm looking at looking at Twitch chat because I I don't know how I
would come up with all these options so I'm looking at Twitch chat for a change
but the way that I use Uber as someone who owns a car is I use it when I'm
traveling and I use it to get from a hotel if you if you don't own a car and
you're using it to commute or something like that then you're less interested in
your destination right
we are like the most interested in our destination use case that there is and
even then like you would have looked at pictures of it before you Hold on the
answers are rolling in i use I use Uber for sex lift is better
um don't use Uber just do not use it
please uh all of us are poor we use Shoe
Bar schuber i think that's a joke i use Uber to buy to buy narcotics i use Uber
when I'm drunk yeah there's a lot of I use Uber when I'm drunk um
so what they're trying to do is have
inapp purchases so people intoxicated
can spend more money you know what uber's on the right path here um they
know they totally know what's going on i clearly I I have a much clearer
understanding of what they're what they're trying to do this is what more social media companies need to do in
order to make money snapchat pro tip if your user is drunk allow them to buy
things facebook i mean Facebook has some
wicked crazy facial recognition facebook
if you guys don't already get working on
drunk recognition because as soon as your user uploads a selfie where they're
just wasted AF sell them something you can you can
pay like a lot of money to send a priority message to someone that you
used to be in a relationship status with
wow wow you just blew my mind it sends
It sends a Facebook message and a text message and it starts a call all at the
same time yeah oh wow i love it get back together
it should cost $69
wait $6.90 yeah yeah oh I love it okay
um the Twitch chat wow actually that's a
pretty good idea
hey that happens on the WAN Show once in a while okay group 10% remember yeah
that's right okay AMD responds this was
originally posted by 3D OSH on the forum
the original article here is from PC Purr yeah and AMD responds to 1080 G
1080p gaming tests on Ryzen ryan
Shrout's my bud so I'm just going to read his article to you guys word for
word we linked to it and hopefully he won't get too mad at me because it's this it's basically plagiarism if I read
his article is it not but you're quoting it but I'm not giving
him ad impressions by actually sending people to his site okay so tell you what
everybody but I've had people who host sites that we've given shoutouts like
contact me directly and be like "Hey thanks." Really because it's given would
never thank me for anything no no i hate that guy anyway
so PC perk great site go visit it whatever luke posted in the chat anyway
the point is um by far one of the most
interesting and concerning points about today's launch of the AMD Ryzen
processor is gaming results many other reviewers have seen similar results to
what Shrout published in his article gaming at 1080p even at ultra image
quality settings in many tops games shows a deficit in performance compared
to KBLE and Broadwell e processors so
Shroud says he shared his testing with AMD over a week ago must have been nice
for him to actually have processors a week before his article was supposed to
go up what a jackass i hate that guy um and to be clear our testing was done etc
etc etc etc so you know there you go there's I think part of that problem is
us being Canadian talking to other Yeah it's part of it
it's not all of it okay so yeah we there
was a Okay okay so this will be an aside
so agency goes "Yeah yeah it's shipped
there's like been a We don't have a tracking number though which by the way
is nonsense unless you're shipping something by donkey like even if you
ship by USPS to Canada United States Postal Service which is about as slow as
it gets i mean you can't ship by boat from US to Canada okay it's one land
mass yeah so yeah there there there literally isn't a way to ship that
doesn't have a tracking number other than putting a stamp on it okay okay
there is but it's the point is they didn't um so they're like "Yeah there's
no tracking number but but it shipped on Wednesday they hold they they keep that
story we get in touch with AMD directly they give us a tracking number because
of course there's a tracking number it didn't leave till
Friday so that is why we didn't get our eight00X in time also we're still trying
to find out where our 1700 and 1700X are
agency claims Oh no there's no tracking number for those shipments but they've
been shipped but there were storms meanwhile it's a little rainy outside
but that's pretty normal not a Yeah in the Pacific Northwest so that's a thing
we're We're pretty used to moving things in the rain anyway no problem AMD's
response to the underwhelming 1080p performance is that uh they are
supporting 300 plus developer kits with
game development studios to optimize current and future game releases for the
allnew Ryzen CPU and they do have a point here it is sort of new and
different uh they announced a strategic relationship with Bethesda and um CPU
benchmarking deficits to the competition in certain games at 1080p resolution can
be attributed to the development and optimization of games uniquely to Intel
platforms and again in the defense of
game developers who did all of their development on Intel platforms makes
sense AMD didn't have a CPU worth of rats patoot in the last 5 years and most
gamers were gaming on Intel so I totally get why that happened um
what if you could attribute a cost to a rat's patute it was like a lab rat yeah
i mean they have a they have a cost um
and like if you're testing that like does it have a value
all I know is that I wouldn't pay much for like a wheelbarrow full of
them like one might have a cost but I don't think anyone wants like a
truckload so it doesn't scale very well that's
fair that's fair where am I going to put these
like if a rat's patoot is worth 25 cents like like what so you can take you want
to store them a few thousand of them and buy like Breath of the Wild nintendo's
going to be like get this out of here it's like yes yes we have like a a
collecting random bull crap that you found on the ground system it's an open
world game like we didn't realize anyone was actually out there doing this this
stuff's not actually worth anything it's supposed to just be a video game
but no we do not want Borehides i think that game is going to like
single-handedly sell the Switch although I don't know it works for Wii U um it's
like the one of the fourth or fifth or it's in the top 10 of highest rated
games all time on Metacritic right now pretty ridiculous um so basically you
know what i don't have a ton to say about this other than that
um you know AMD's got a point uh with
that said I think that some of the complaints are a little bit if you're
buying a like top tier GPU and a top tier CPU and then playing at
1080p it's a little weird so there are
situations where I get it if you bought a
PG2 whatever it was the the 240 Hz okay
so if you bought a 240 Hz 1080p gaming display then Ryzen is not going to
deliver the best possible experience but were you expecting it to i mean we
already knew that Ryzen Why i think most
people were oh well they were they were wrong and dumb um because we already
knew i'm just saying like I I think genuinely most people were okay well
most pe some pe I already knew I already
knew that even the most optimistic estimates of Ryzen's performance had it
at similar IPC to Broadwell and I
already knew based on the most optimistic estimates of Ryzen's final
clock speed that it wasn't going to be clocked higher than a 7700 K so I
already knew that it wasn't going to perform as well
in single threaded applications what if you want to have uh only a processor and
stream Dota 2 only a processor i've still been really
confused by that okay so I get it a bit more now um so uh Anthony did some
testing as part of our Ryzen launch coverage where he did take a look so you
know depending on who you talk to at Intel you'll find people who talk about
how great quicksync video encoding is and it and
NVNC are very good the problem is that
where they don't shine is in the low bit
rate encoding scenario that is needed
for streaming to Twitch that's the problem so in order to get the best out
of your 3500 kilobits per second which is really
all that Twitch will process anyway you can set it higher if you want but
basically you're just wasting CPU and due to actually you can hurt it because
due to fluctuations if you start sending above four so if you set to like 3.8 and
then it fluctuates to above four you'll just miss stuff and it's bad so so but
at that kind of bit rate for
108060p which is like kind of a lot of pixels per second um you have to have
the best possible source image you don't even really want to do 1080 60p just an
additional note if you want to do Oh I think it's like 60 FPS 720 is usually
what people Okay so anyway the point still stands you're very bit rate
constrained and the more blockiness and crappiness in your original image the
more it's going to be compounded by trying to stream it at a low bit rate
out to your viewers he meant 1080 60 FPS
it's fine 1080 60p is a perfectly valid way to say that by the way he's just
there's just a bunch of people in the Yeah there's a bunch of people who don't
know anyway so if you wanted to stream at
108060p then basically what that would mean is that you would you would be you
would be making a a slightly worse image
even much more slightly worse um so that's why AMD is defending their use of
x.264 encoding even on systems that obviously have powerful dedicated GPUs
like a an RX 480 that is the correct way
to do it yeah now with that said in our testing we didn't observe the same like
20% dropped frames that AMD had in their
demos but I don't really understand that because I personally checked the AMD
demos i opened up I I minimized the game i opened up OBS i made sure they were at
the same settings so I think one thing that was noticed at the event was that
the X99 boards were in dual channel memory they only had two sticks of RAM
no they weren't okay I checked i heard this i don't know um in fact Intel
specifically or Intel AMD specifically even put 32 gigs of RAM in the Intel
systems so that they were using um four
8 gig sticks and then they had two 8 gig sticks in their own systems so they
actually had less overall memory interesting you know okay hold on a
second though yeah I didn't double check that the four sticks were in the right
slots now that I think about it but I heard specifically two sticks so they
must have just mixed up the systems or something i think that's quite possible
because I did look at the Cinebench system myself and there was at least one
other one that like just you know
I'm um and they definitely had four sticks in them and they and they was
right on the spec sheet they had more RAM in them so yeah
um there's another really cool thing that came out of the AMA on the AMD
subreddit though this is really cool um
blah blah blah why is there a huge discrepancy in gaming benchmarks okay
blah blah etc oh yes this is really cool so I actually asked this at the event
but I didn't get an answer and um Dr sue
did answer it in the AMA does do Ryzen
CPUs support ECC memory and the answer is yes
that's cool so they're low power and
they support ECC memory for so
long Intel has held ECC kind of dangled
it in front of us and gone "Oh you want this you want this you want this buy a
Zeon woo buy a Zeon baby." Um I am so
happy to see consumer grade CPUs with ECC memory support i don't know that I
would run out and build a frenaz machine with you know a Ryzen 3 immediately
after launch i think I want to give this platform some more time to prove itself
yeah but this is going to be an absolute
godsend to people who want to use ZFS on the cheap in their home .naz
because ZFS really does want ECC memory
for the best operation and to reduce risk of data corruption
and right now that means you've got to go out and buy a Zeon and unfortunately
there's really not much in the way of cheap Zeon because either you're buying
a full-on motherboard and Intel Xeon lineup really doesn't get like it's
there's not like a you know a Celeron Zeon equivalent or you're buying like an
embedded system that has a Zeon soldered on the board and those because they're
Zeon are just not that cheap so this could be really cool cheapo ITX board
with an HBA on it and a Ryzen CPU and
some ECC memory that could be a fantastic solution so I'm I'm pretty
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cool all right more topics wow every
topic we've done has actually been like pretty deep so um if you feel like this
is the best W show of your life you can tweet at
James_Gravity who pledges to 100% reply
to every single tweet wow okay please
his whole his whole life is full of regret starting now someone should
Okay uh we're not encouraging people to use a should not
someone should not definitely make a bot
no no no i knew you were gonna Don't do that i said not someone should not Don't
do that make a bot don't do that james is a good person we hope that would pull
from like an Intel mesh set don't do
that Intel responds machine learning
Intel responds they're all unique to Ryzen said he'd have no idea by cutting
prices on Core i5 and Core i7 processors
wait a minute how old is this article february 26th no wait did that ever even
happen is this from MicroEnter i think this is just Oh wait
on Amazon hold on okay hold on hold on just
a just a gosh darn minute here okay so far at Microenter yeah yeah that might
just be MicroEnter doing things hold on hold on hold on
i'm doing real time investigative
journalism where I see if prices have been dropped they have not this is the
price of a 7700 K ignore that and I will
go yell at James after the W show wow
you should all tweet him with your totally not
bots that he didn't do that right uh
word on the street the original article here is from hotware the NVIDIA GTX 1080
Ti reportedly in production for a March
launch reportedly um it's coming out
next week we know that already wait a minute when is this article from this is
from the 20th of February james james
okay okay James you guys you know what
i'm not going to talk to him you guys talk to him for me okay you guys talk to
him okay this is actually new mike Pence's email hacked so the original
article from BBC uh Mike Pence was
apparently um
uh you storing like public like government related stuff on
a private email server why is this so
common
and uh yeah so so he used a private he
used a private email as the Indiana governor to conduct state business now
with that said we have to also be careful not to not to blow this out of
proportion because my understanding is that that isn't illegal there now
um I mean should that be okay no and
apparently he knew all this while attacking Hillary's email practices
which is sort of hilarious yes
apparently many of Pence's email uh
contacts received emails saying Mr pence and his wife had become stranded in the
Philippines and urgently needed money so this wasn't like a vigilante like they
were just trying to make money yeah so
so that's a thing so um you know
personally I'm shocked i mean something hypocritical about the Trump
administration and its and its uh
members that would never happen no I have no idea what you're talking about don't believe it google's a Google
Assistant AI now available for all
modern Android handsets which is which is an interesting way of putting that
because an Android handset can be pretty darn modern but not have um Android M or
N yeah so there's that you can try to figure out how to make it actually
answer in a conversational tone like I do um it's a little difficult sometimes
takes a few shots yeah it should be and the frustrating part is when it decides
to end the conversation by just giving you a Google search link and you're like
well got to start from the beginning again it's a really good really good way
for that to work voice interaction is like so bad like I it's one of those
things where like this is a big deal because this was a pixel pixel feature
that for some reason some people cared about and now it's I thought rolling out
wider it's going to be super cool i'm very excited for private voice activated
AI i'm not very excited for cloud
someone will make it eventually yeah that's way far out but someone will make
it eventually the the current setups for voice
activated AI is scary and sketchy and
once like way down the line someone makes it private I will set that up all
right so anyway the timing of this is interesting samsung is rumored to be
launching its Bixby Assistant on the Galaxy S8 which will probably also be
terrible um and by the time that launches Google Assistant should also be
available on the Galaxy S8 so it'll be
uh it'll be uh you know game on between
the two how do you install assistant just update Google Play Services so
sounds like you're getting it whether you really want it or not cool nice um
All right fantastic cbc
claims that Subway chicken is only 50%
chicken subway defends its chicken after a CBC
marketplace report calling the story false and misleading but CBC stands
behind the DNA test result so they found it was 50% soy wow however food
scientists have chimed in saying DNA tests aren't their preferred method of
testing subsequent tests by third parties and Subway itself indicate the
chicken is less than 1% soy apparently that is present due to added spices and
marinade so there you go now you know they have lots of soy in their spices
and marinade ours Technica
reports and good this was only yesterday good job James how game mode will make
games run better on Windows plus details
on strict limitations for UWP apps
running on the Xbox One so in a nutshell
game mode will apparently isolate CPU resources to be devoted exclusively to
that game process um now that's not something that I would expect to affect
average frame rates much but it's something that I might expect especially
on systems that are only marginally able to run a game something that I might
expect to affect like hiccups so you
know and I mean okay this isn't something that I've experienced since
like the Athlon XP era maybe maybe at that point okay it's
not something I've experienced since like the Athlon X2 era but there would
have been times in the past where getting an instant message and having
something pop up from your uh from your taskbar or from your system tray would
have caused a game stutter that was a long time ago but
theoretically this could help prevent Now people run like video wallpapers and
stuff that's like really common now wallpaper
engine it's like a software you can buy on Steam oh remember like a long time
ago when through VC you could like set a video as your background yeah and uh
Windows Vista Ultimate had that as a feature too yeah yeah now it's like
there's a program on Steam called I think it's Wallpaper Engine
unfortunately most of them are just like weird mostly nude drawn animated girls
but there's a search bar so I found like a really cool Titanfall helmet when it's
doing like the blinking thing after the credits and an Assassin's Creed flag cuz
I haven't changed since I was 18 so here
we go wow that was a really cool story
wonderful um the system moves threads
devoted to other processors off unfortunately you can choose
whatever you want i won't judge you uh the system gives an even greater
majority of C of GPU cycles to the active game reducing the time available
for what is everything else what else is using the GPU like what are you
rendering crap in Adobe Media Encoder with Mercury Engine like in the
background i mean if you're doing that you deserve to have a crappy gaming
experience um all right let's see the Switch launch
is going really well apparently they're going to be shipping 2 million by the end of the month i don't think that's
how many are sold because a lot of sites are just not taking purchases like you
can't even pre you can't even like pre-purchase one when they're available
almost anywhere because no one knows how much stock they're getting because it's
Nintendo um but as they've like how can
such a big company be so disorganized
yeah as they've already shipped two million units and the Wii U only ever
shipped so far 13 56 around there wow they're doing
pretty good compared to the predecessor fascinating
all right um what else we got here we've
got some other interesting topics i think we're nearing the end are we we
could Yeah yeah we actually started mostly on Oh yeah psvr has sold almost a
million units which is estimated to be nearly twice that of the Rift and the
Vive combined so many people for so long have been telling me that in my VR
scripts when I talk about how the cost of everything combined is really
expensive they're like "No but the computers are pretty cheap now." Like no
it doesn't matter you're getting into a realm of expense which is just too much
for so many people it doesn't matter that like it's really good yeah it's
like it's like car people you know what car people I find are some of the worst
about this where they'll be like "But a
BMW drives so much better." And I'll be
like "Wow who cares?"
Oh I mean maybe okay maybe BMW is a bad
example because some of their some of their lower-end stuff is actually somewhat attainable um so what would
what would I compare it to like we know someone who's relatively young that has
one yeah yeah that's true okay okay bmw
is a bad example what how do I Okay see
as not a car person it's hard for me to even remember the obnoxious car people
things that Okay okay when when when rear cameras first showed up
mhm and people would be like "But this
is so much better." And I'd be like "Right but that's only available that's
only even available on trim levels that cost double what the base model does
that's more that's more what I'm going for." Like uh I remember in high school
uh one of my one of my friends his mom
had an SUV so remember this is back in like 2003 had an SUV she had a backup
camera back then that's balling she had GPS so she had GPS that was like built
in that was built in and she had windshield wipers that detected whether
there was rain on the windshield or not damn and only went if there was like too
much rain like back in 03 and he's like
telling me how great his mom's car is and I'm like cool like it doesn't matter
how much better it is because I can do this or this and turn my windshield
wipers on yeah i I don't have you know
120 130 grand to spend on an SUV i just
I don't have that hurts me physically it doesn't matter how much better it is um
so there that's more the point I was trying to make
uh okay okay so the reason why I don't
own any cloud connected kids toys so
this was uh this was actually I saw this on a tweet from uh Troy Hunt here data
from connected cloud pets teddy bears leaked and ransomed exposing kids voice
messages that's conversations between the child and others can be recorded and
forwarded looks like a very cute toy and all that
but um Oh my god my kids do not own
anything connected to the internet and they won't until they're
old enough to understand what it means to have something connected to the
internet messages were stored in a database that was p that was in a
publicly facing network segment without any authentication required and had been
indexed by Showdown wow over
820,000 users data uh had or over
820,000 users had data exposed 2.2
million voice recordings of parents and their children
um wow
fantastic okay apparently this is probably the Samsung Galaxy
S8 i haven't actually looked at this yet apparently it might have a curved screen
hey and wow no buttons oh wow well
that's a shame um
okay hm that is a shame missing the
physical and capacitive blah blah blah blah blah blah blah the uh Did you know
that the G6 has a non like it has a a
wider than usual aspect ratio no does this kind of look like it also does sort
of does i I really hope that that looks like a WCO photo yeah okay from what I
can tell I really hope that doesn't turn into a thing i plan to I plan to kind of
crap on that in my G6 review which will be coming um because we
finally finally achieved it video
content and screens being the same shape like we waited so long for this for
everyone to just kind of get their act together for so first on computers we
had 4x3 screens then we had 5x4 screens
for some freaking reason why what anyway
so we got that then then we got 16 by 10
okay so we we were getting close i like that i liked 16x10 too because the black
bars were reasonable but I also see why
people might prefer to especially as screens got bigger to give up a little
bit of their relative you know vertical space i would still like it for no black
bars i would I get it i would still personally like a 16 x10 but I get it
okay so so so so we got that far then
the only aspect ratio we really got on monitors and I'm excluding things like
the Surface Studio or um you know the
Surface uh Surface Pro like where you
know like tablets um surfaces all in one yeah basically surfaces okay so other
than surfaces monitors we stuck with that or recently introduced ultrawide so
21 by9 which happens to be very similar to theatrical widescreen so there we go
tvs and it's drastically different tvs
monitors and then Apple finally did it with the iPhone 6 so TVs monitors and
mobile devices other than tablets all went 16 by9 and everything was bueno and
nobody had black bars we We don't need
to move away from from that 16 by9 is
fine yes it's fine there's there's no compelling reason that I can think of to
change it um Sony this is actually really cool
debuts the world's fastest SD cards up
to around 300 megabytes wow Anantech has
those
now dang it Dr cutras um write speeds of
299 megabytes per second how sad they
couldn't get was the engineer one more who couldn't squeeze one more megabyte
per second out of it poor guy how sad
was he or she um so there you go up to 128 Gigabyte
capacities and as long as the reader is
UHS2 compliant they are able to handle
almost 300 megabytes per second reads and rights this is getting up to around
SATA 2 like saturating wait yes
saturating SATA 2 speeds that is fantastic they're not saying how they're
getting that in an SD card only saying that it is enabled by
firmware which is like okay thanks but the cards are also
waterproof shockproof temperature resistant and X-ray
proof cool they're announcing a card reader specifically built for them with
built-in super speed USB 3.1 Gen 1 that
should leave standard SD slots in the dust we're going to be over time uh oh
what time is it oh oh wow oh oh oh we
should uh we should uh we should talk about Flowplane Club hooray hooray do
the thing do you have anything exciting to share with anybody i'm putting you on
the spot a little bit i think the the website version has a password reset
that works now okay that's exciting yeah
I mean there okay the uh website version that definitely doesn't exist i mean we
could share that I guess now that we spilled the beans on it no no oh cuz
they'd see that no no no no not to show it to them no no just that it will that
there will be one oh yeah okay cuz I actually had some people asking um in
the Floatplane club like private i haven't I haven't been like announcing
it but I haven't been hiding it either so we've had people asking will float
plane club always be and here's what it looks like now so this is Floatplane
club will it always be a janky sub forum
on the Linus TechTips website no
definitely not uh development is very
actively happening um Luke is working on
it and X saying in slightly under now
three months ah okay and possibly
allegedly we might have also someone else working on it um that person's
currently on probation but that's like
that's just like BC law that's not because like we hate hate them that's
just sort of how that works that's just kind of how it works um but but we this
is definitely a real development project it is definitely happening and uh the
way that you sign up is you go to the store on the Linus Tech Tips forum so
I'll show you guys what that looks like and then you go to Floatplane club
actually all the other contributor tiers are also have access to Floatplane club
but for now they don't actually have a ton of benefit beyond that you get a
fancy badge and access to the the the
tier exclusive sub forum the only one of which that matters is the bronze one cuz
we have a counting thread in there and we count by images so the image that you
post has to have the number in it i contributed a thing there it was really
funny i forget what it was but I thought it was really funny i think I saw it and
I think I enjoyed it a lot of them are good it's It seems like people genuinely
like take time to find one that's sort of cool yeah um we're at like almost I
think we're at like 850ish or something so basically you sign up in the store
and you can see uh up here there you go
there's a Floatplane club link that goes in there and from accounting
threads in chat oh excellent and then you get access to a week's
worth of content and there's other stuff that we have planned for it as well so all what we already have working is
there's a week's worth of releases that are not on YouTube yet and then what we
also have working is that the bit rates are higher at a given resolution it
looks better on full length so it looks better and for a lot of people more
importantly actually sounds better so we don't compress the audio very much at
all um let's see what So what do we have on here that is not on YouTube yet the
server room server room update vlog is there um so we we can maybe explain why
that's not on YouTube yeah so oh yeah a lot of people have asked us like what's
the deal with sometimes the early access platform having stuff for two or three
weeks before it hits YouTube and what happens sometimes is when we do a
simultaneous release in order to not screw up our calendar planning um
because we won't launch two videos in a day on YouTube that's not going to
happen it what what happens is it causes
the first video to like get buried a little bit of cascading yeah um so like
this week with like Ryzen 1080 Ti
Nintendo Switch which I believe is coming out tomorrow night uh tomorrow
like noon noon yeah okay tomorrow like midday yeah um or maybe slightly earlier
i might stomp on W show and just hit it a little bit earlier but u basically uh
what happens is that if we do a simultaneous release YouTube already got
a video that day so that one actually gets pushed down an entire additional
week because on a normal week we would only do maybe one or maybe two
simultaneous releases so we can't just like bump it to the next day because
then it screws up like that one it screws up everything until we can reset
it the following week so So that's the way that works so anyway what's on there
now is the server room update vlog part three finale um Luke's not so secret
obsession Analog NT Mini yes we've got
Windows 9 the OS Microsoft won't tell
you about uh we've got one about EVGA's
new thermal solution for their cards where they've they believe and actually
looks pretty good um that they've solved card overheating problems once and for
all uh we've got uh a rundown of every
AMD Radeon card tested look at that
thumbnail look at how his mouth is open
look at how Look at how we blew up the size of all the video cards so that
they'd be bigger no no so I held them out like that i really did but they
would only be like this big like look at how like think about how big a video
card is relative to my hand yeah looks pretty good i think I did it nice um and
then check this out there's So it's AMD video cards through the ages so there's
uh a clock and a dinosaur it's really subtle though
we're We're still working on this whole thing we take time with our clickbait yes that's right so there you go that's
how it works it's a video player just like you would expect a video player to
be that's good we've even got cool features like check this out see we have
thumbnail uh thumbnail preview so you can skip to the part of the video where
Check this out this is amazing oh god
card on the left photoshopped in
what taran did it Photoshop and we
didn't have one oh my god
even the shadow is fake so I think he like pulled chunks of this shadow and
like put it over there and then Good job T yeah it's like just it's I don't even
know if this is a is a photograph i think this is like a render off of AMD's
like press kit holy crap yeah um the
press kit the 2900 XT that's pretty sick
yeah so anyway um got lots of videos
over there and we've got lots and lots of plans for this in the future it's
going to be a pretty freaking unbelievable platform we hope um but
there's a lot of work to be done and we're not even answering questions about
when it'll launch um what is really cool is do we want to talk about how we added
more capacity nope oh okay nope okay we
didn't just don't even want to nope there's a website coming we're working
on it a lot there's a website coming we're working on it a lot there's
there's some serious infrastructure involved in serving the number of people
that we're serving on Floatplane Club which what I'll say is that it's
probably more than you think
that's all I can really say in fact there's I pretty much guarantee it is
more people than you think and um there's been some challenges but I think
I demonstrated the responsiveness of the player there's still like that weird
glitchiness when we change resolutions like it goes back to the thumbnail for a
second and but then like it's pretty fast um yeah we're we're really excited
about it team's been working really hard thank you you know who you are yeah do
you know who you are no existential questions i don't I don't even know who
you are get Get How did you get in here get Get out of Get out of here thanks
for watching the WAN Show guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same
bad channel
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