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i'm doing it i'm doing it we're live

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it's rancho time uh or rather it was

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when show time um a little while ago but we ran into an

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issue can can i can i get that that tangle of fans actually alex do you mind

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yeah so just to give you guys some idea of what sort of problem we were dealing with

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before the show here um well this is part of it

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and alex probably has some other parts of it

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but not on hand because he's actually still working on the video that we're

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yeah oh yeah oh that's good that's good yep yeah we got uh

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there is going to be there's going to be some some definite um

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you know school of hard knocks engineering going on in this video right

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here so that should be pretty good but uh we've got a great show for you guys

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today i think as you may not have noticed i have

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what's this hi everybody

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i i i i i see i don't understand the politically correct culture these days

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are we even allowed to do that yeah like i don't know is that like and

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like a is that italian or like like are you allowed to

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it's dr nick yeah he's a minority because there's only one dr nick yeah so

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i don't know if you're allowed to do that no i was no that's canon you can do that no no i was recently informed that

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um you're not allowed to say uh max is a

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member of a facebook group where you're not allowed to say y'all

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because it's cultural appropriation and i was kind of sitting here going but

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that's just a word is isn't it just appropriating whom um

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not who you'd think is all is all i'm really gonna get into

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but um yeah i just thought what's it called a conjunction

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yeah yeah i thought it was just you all it is yeah i thought that yes it depends

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who started it but i think the people who started it are part of an

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imperialistic capitalistic society it's fair game because that society is

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grounded and formed around appropriation that's all they do

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that's all we do all right well we've got a bunch of great topics for you guys

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today uh Intel launches xeon w for

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workstations further separating their

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servers eon products from their core i7 core i9 and corey whatever else and oh

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also pentium um consumer products

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and ryzen threadripper gets rounded out with the final

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chip the 1900x it has arrived

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yeah i don't think anyone was really waiting for it but we'll talk about that

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in more depth later AMD is rumored to be losing a hundred dollars or more on

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every vega 64 they sell which would be pretty bananas if true

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although i have no guarantee whatsoever that it actually is and what else we got

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here and Linus phone number and email are probably on the internet now as

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there's been a huge instagram breach of six million

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users data oh yeah great i'm glad we're covering

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that hey man news is news this is unbiased

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objective journalism

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are you you're looking into it right now aren't you no

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fake news that's luke sitting on the couch in the intro

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fake news no that's me on the right

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yeah right yeah they're right

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wait what all right so for those of you who aren't

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familiar this is james he's one of the new writers i don't even know if it's

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fair to call you guys new anymore have you been here what like six months almost

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something like that i don't know five five february february that's like six

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months yeah that's like six months yeah that's freaking thank you Colton

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crazy yeah oh i mean uh people are apparently throwing

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it throwing things out there so james is actually the one who prepares the lan

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show document for us every week and has been doing so for

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about the last uh the entire time yeah pretty much since

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it started yeah so the first week he did it it kind of sucked

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that's not true and then the second week it was like pretty decent and since then

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i mean honestly it's been kind of hard to tell the difference which either

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means that james is a rock star or means that Colton was just

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frankly never any better at this than some guy who started

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two weeks ago a bit of both um all right so first

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topic here is Threadripper

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i know it wouldn't be it wouldn't be WAN Show i wish i could have all the thread

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ripper in here see what i have to work with here he gets touch screens oh yeah

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poor you 2016 sucks a 2016 lg gram and

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who has the 2017 one me it's a way great premiere because

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that is uh the way of the world

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that's the curl of the girl big dog big dog

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and then table scratch dog

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oh that's how it's going to be all right so the original topic here was posted on

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the forum by onotech and basically i don't know i don't even

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know i don't get it how is this even newsworthy why is this even in here you

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can explain threadripper in the title dude that's news

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am i right unfortunately yes

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Threadripper related is news but this is a skew that beyond a very

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limited use case frankly i don't really

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understand so the threadripper 1900x

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has the same 64 PCIe lanes as the other

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threadripper skus it's got the same

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lga whatever it is tr4 stock it as the

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other Threadripper skus it's got a nice

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you know high base clock uh 3.8 versus 3.6 gigahertz for

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the 1800x which is the lower clocked

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actually very similar version of kind of the same processor because this is only

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an eight core chip so it's more comparable to the 1800x in

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terms of its performance than it is to its bigger brothers the 1920x and the

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1950x right to spin it another way it basically

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almost is the 1900x except with a slightly higher base clock i mean the

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1800x the 1800 the 1900x is almost like

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the 1800x except it has a higher base clock and it basically grants you access

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to all the x 399 goodies

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for 50 bucks more so for 50 bucks more you get the privilege of buying a more

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expensive motherboard right quite a bit more expensive

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motherboard yeah a lot more expensive motherboard not to mention that now you

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can go buy quad channel memory uh quad channel memory that will probably never

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be necessary for any kind of reasonable workload for an eight core processor

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um now to be clear i can come up with a

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thanks bixby i don't know what prompted bixby to

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start yakking over there um now to be clear there are a couple workloads i can

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think of for this so for example ASUS released um what was it i think a 19

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PCIe slot motherboard

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i'm going to have to double check this it might not have been 19. yeah here it

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is ASUS debuts the b250 expert mining

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ethereum motherboard with 19 PCIe slots

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um so with a Threadripper chip

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you could theoretically do like

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what like 60 of them so you could literally just cover

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like an eatx motherboard in PCIe 1x slots and

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and power adapters apparently i didn't even realize this it's not just graphics

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cards it is also thousand watt plus

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power supplies that are running into huge supply issues right now i was

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talking to a system right yeah i was down at puget systems

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yesterday as some of you guys are probably aware if you saw the stream and

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they're like yeah it's like actually a problem we're having a hard time getting thousand watt power supplies

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which may also explain okay you go why Corsair didn't want to

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send us their ax 1500i for that build that we're doing

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because they can probably turn around and sell that thing like billio

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yeah but what's worth more to them the retail price of the power supply or

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whatever exposure we hope well i don't know

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that's like a 400 plus dollar power supply so it's it's pretty it's pretty

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significant um yeah but the in the ad inventory on

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our channel is worth more than 400 yeah maybe

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um the one 1000 watt power supply that is

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no problem for us to get is uh the thousand dollar one though that puppy

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1200 watts is it 1200 watts 400 watts i thought it was a thousand watt

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no do you want to talk about the build that you have coming up kind of but it's kind of secret too

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no i don't think it's oh well okay we don't have this as an embargoed case yes

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okay uses an embargoed case but

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i know you guys you got you guys saw you

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know some of the the low end stuff that we're always focused on okay

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and you guys were like Linus you know why are you guys always doing

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you know all the low-end stuff all the time i want something that i can't

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afford i want to see a six thousand dollar

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Threadripper build and james is here to answer the call

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yes i am it's pretty badass it's got 128

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gigabytes of RAM which i didn't even know that it has

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eight dimms but wait more importantly they're all RGB

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you see this is what i have to deal with around here i'm no longer even in control of the ship

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it's just like it doesn't just hit icebergs

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it like it like calls to the iceberg you got icebergs working on the ship

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it takes like a big hook and it kind of goes where the icebergs be at beaches and uh

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and it pulls them in and kapow you don't even know yet six months in this is only

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the tip of the iceberg okay and i can't take full credit for

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all the terrible puns that have been in the uh that have been in the videos recently either as you guys can clearly

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clearly see they've i think that we've hit peak pun we're on the way down now

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they've all been used like in the first build guide i did

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which was the RGB build guide yeah every every paragraph was a pun because you

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could talk about the chassis or the case and say in this case

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but now that's been done yeah but i okay yeah but that was your first time doing

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it i had already done it many many times so should we just keep them coming just

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they're always fresh every time i think we i think we do keep them coming

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because you know if you do that then they'll always be in a state of ecstasy

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or cringe

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oh i'll admit it took me longer to get that then you should have i had to look

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um all right so why don't we get back to the 1900x so basically the point of this

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chip is if you need quad core

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wait okay you need quad channel memory and you need a ton of PCIe lanes but you

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don't want a high core count processor

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or maybe and this is the pitch that i've heard

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for something like a 7740x on the Intel

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side of things maybe you want to invest in a platform

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that has a greater uh has greater opportunities for upgrading

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in the future and you just don't have the money to spend right now

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but so would that be someone who's maybe

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they're getting this for a professional use case but it's still their side business they haven't jumped in fully

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because this is we're talking about a high ceiling here yes we're talking you

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could go all the way from 8 to 16 or you

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know word on the street is that AMD would love to deliver even more course than

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that in their gaming lineup and it wouldn't be that much of a stretch because

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to my knowledge the tr4 socket is not

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that different from the server socket so there's already 32 core processors

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there have really how much more of a challenge is it for them to deliver a 32

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core on the desktop assuming that we could figure out how to cool the bloody

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thing which is actually uh maybe we'll talk about that in a little bit more

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depth later that's a video that Anthony's been working on like at taming

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the beast is air cooling

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or water cooling a better answer for these super high wattage new cpus like

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threadripper and the answer may surprise you ooh

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i'm hoping this is going to be a callback to the d wave quantum computing

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it's going to be up there oh right you have to say like we have to pull vacuum

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to to cool a 32 core Threadripper it's got to be super conductors and

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you know what i've already filmed it so it's far too late and that's not in it so you'll you'll just have to sit and be

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sad um all right let's move on to the quote-unquote freaking huge instagram

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breach apparently i'm screwed um i

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haven't read this article yet it was posted by ali on the forum uh the

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original article here is from ars technica but maybe james would like to

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explain exactly how i am screwed because

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of this i'm not sure you're screwed but it's only ten dollars

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u.s to find out how screwed you are so what happened was

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great it started off as a bug what a value

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that's what you're that's what your privacy's worth so what what started off as a bug

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in or an exploit available from instagram

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got totally scaled up by some industrious

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hacker basically there was a bug some kind of

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some kind of uh data security research firm thought that

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this bug could not be exploited in an automatic automated way

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but then this hacker who ended up contacting rs technica

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did manage to automate it so that he was able to

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scrape this giant database of instagram 700 million users

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at a rate of what is it a million

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a million accounts per hour a million accounts per hour so he managed to get

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six million accounts into a database then you put that database online in a

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queryable website it's 10 bucks a query you can

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type in an instagram handle and get either a phone number an email or both

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wow so this person contacted rs technica and actually provided them with a 10 000

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record example spreadsheet of the type of data that he had scraped

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and then they had some statistics from that spreadsheet so i think it was 4 000

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out of the 10 000 had both emails and phone numbers wow and then the remaining

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6000 had a mix and then if you were looking at that

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spreadsheet based on the usernames they found out that they were like

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verified actual accounts not just bots or whatever

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and they also found out that looking at the emails and the phone numbers

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just based on area codes and stuff it seemed like the personal data matched

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the accounts and it looks real interesting

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so um to be clear not everyone

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got breached so i mean even at a rate of a million accounts an hour it would have

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taken almost two weeks to download the entire 700 million user records but it's

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still a significant problem and um

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i mean another thing is i guess realistically there's not 700 million

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active users so no actually if you look at uh graphs of user to post ratio like

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the vast majority of instagram accounts have never posted right they're just

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created so probably you're okay but also maybe you're super

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not okay and uh depends if there's any logic in the

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scrape and how it targeted people but the biggest risk here is that

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some for some exposed people it's their email

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and their phone that have been exposed and didn't you get hacked one time

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um because someone had your email and phone it was a little more complicated

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than that but yes it's it is possible if

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you have someone's phone number and you know who their carrier is and you can

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manage to convince their carrier that you are that person it's possible to get

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a sim issued in that number and then you can use that phone to break into other

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accounts that are using two-factor authentication

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with the phone number as a backup

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so good luck everyone and let's go ahead

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and move on to our next topic amazon turns thousands of twitch

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streamers that's us right now hey which is why we

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can't show you anything oh no no can't show you that um into product pitch men

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poor ladies as it were original article here is from bloomberg

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you know i like the bloomberg i always like to throw a couple bloombergs in there sure that's fine

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so spencer soper says amazon.com inc will pay commission

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to gamers artist chefs and others in on its twitch interactive video streaming

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service for selling products to their fans through its retail site i mean to

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be clear um it's not like amazon wasn't

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already paying twitch streamers to sell products to the people who were

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viewing i mean it's no secret that Linus media group is a member of the amazon

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associates affiliate program and anyone

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who's a member of the program if someone were to buy a product through

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their affiliate link they would get a commission i mean

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that's something that legally you have to disclose the only thing that's why

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you do here yes and they're calling this program the

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gear on amazon the only thing that's new is that they've integrated these affiliate links

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and widgets right onto streamer's pages

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so assumingly we could at some point just point down and say yeah check with

00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:24.640
these headphones in this little picture right here

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and i think the commissions are probably the same it says you can get a

00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:30.880
commission of up to ten percent and i think most

00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:36.799
affiliates can get that provided you sell enough volume but the lower end is

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usually four percent

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uh yeah at the low end it's usually about four percent um higher and it

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depends on the category as well so some categories and i believe this is

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posted publicly so i don't definitely you can just google anyone can join an

00:18:49.600 --> 00:18:54.080
amazon affiliate program you scroll down to the bottom of amazon

00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:59.679
there's like a become a partner or something link on the bottom you can do this with etsy and

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awesome um affiliate program yeah it looks like you

00:19:01.760 --> 00:19:09.039
don't have to be logged in or anything like that so like digital services for example um

00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:13.280
some of them are actually not percentage based like if you sign someone up for

00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:18.320
prime then you get just a fixed bounty uh sometimes they'll do bonuses um but

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yeah here we go so some oh amazon gift cards don't get anything anymore

00:19:19.679 --> 00:19:25.520
apparently neither does wine it's a funny thing that because i would

00:19:23.840 --> 00:19:28.480
think there's enough margin in alcohol that you could afford to uh kind of a

00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:32.799
little british turn of phrase you did there

00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:37.360
funny thing that oh wow i liked it well thank you um

00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:39.280
video games and game consoles are a one

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percent commission oh see that's going to be harsh for this the streamers for

00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:46.160
sure yep um televisions two percent pc

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components used to be closer to like three and a half to four and now they

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are two and a half percent toys are three so basically the stuff that's easy

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to sell where there's like

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so many like gaming sites and gaming blogs

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and game streamers um where they just really i guess feel

00:20:03.919 --> 00:20:09.840
like they don't have to work that hard at it really low commission rates but

00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:14.480
then you move up into digital music um physical music

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uh handmade things groceries digital videos five percent you move all the way

00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:21.520
up to like headphones musical instruments business and industrial

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supplies oh now you're talking six percent and you can get up to ten

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percent for men's and kids private label digital

00:20:27.600 --> 00:20:36.559
video games luxury beauty amazon coins and amazon fashion women

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are there any tr uh twitch streamers in the like the beauty cosmetic space like

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they're on youtube um you know what to be perfectly honest with you i

00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:49.200
have never watched a twitch stream

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outside of tuning into luke's with like it muted to kind of talk to his chat

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i don't really i don't really get it okay yeah well i'm old and stuff

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so like i'm i'm like i'm like shaking my cane on the front porch like old man

00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:09.520
style like my kids are going to be like yo i watch you know whatever

00:21:07.919 --> 00:21:12.880
gamertron person and i'm going to be like

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go outside go kick a ball like

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go go go just do anything anything but that but i'm gonna be wrong and those

00:21:21.600 --> 00:21:28.880
people are gonna be like the the superstars of that generation and it's

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and it's i'm gonna be old and i accept that so there you go

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:36.240
at least you're still saying going to be old

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yeah i don't know i'm 31 now i feel pretty old

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um all right so let's uh have a look at our

00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:47.120
next topic here oh yeah wait did we go through like

00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:51.360
what's different about it really apparently the commissions will be

00:21:48.320 --> 00:21:53.120
available to 22 000 twitch partners i

00:21:51.360 --> 00:21:57.200
really think it's just the widget i think the 23 000 partners might just

00:21:54.960 --> 00:22:00.480
be the number of partners they have like partners is just like creators who have

00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:04.960
signed up or streamers who have signed up for the affiliate program yeah no it

00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:08.320
depends because um yeah there's different tiers of twitch

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.640
partners that's something that i do know because i know that luke even though he

00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:15.679
like doesn't or at times hasn't met like certain partner requirements as a

00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:19.919
partner and then like i think we are even though we definitely don't meet the

00:22:17.679 --> 00:22:23.919
partner requirements so like us yeah so it's a little bit complicated

00:22:21.919 --> 00:22:28.000
all right but as far as amazon's concerned this is kind of just their

00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:31.360
their version of youtube you know how amazon touches everything right

00:22:29.919 --> 00:22:36.720
prime is their netflix they've got grocery now this even though this is a much much

00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:41.840
smaller version of a video platform what did it say they

00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:44.080
have 10 million viewers a day crazy

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but compared to youtube is nothing so

00:22:45.360 --> 00:22:52.559
speaking of nothing let's say your phone had nothing on it

00:22:50.720 --> 00:23:00.559
in terms of storage this is pretty cool uh sandisk just launched

00:22:56.080 --> 00:23:01.760
their largest ever micro sd card

00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:06.000
but wait it's exactly the same size as the other

00:23:03.919 --> 00:23:09.440
ones you mean it's still micro

00:23:07.760 --> 00:23:13.280
how else would it fit in the slot come on you guys clearly we meant the

00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:19.440
capacity it's in it's the largest ever it costs 250

00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:21.200
dollars but if you for whatever reason

00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:27.440
felt like you needed to carry around like what would that be that's like

00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:29.200
what 15 blu-rays worth of data

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if you need if you felt like you if you had a phone that was capable of playing

00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:37.760
back like i i don't even know can you do that can you play back like an mkv on a

00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:41.039
phone i guess it's probably possible like there's vlc

00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:44.080
are they powerful enough yeah i mean do they have uh hardware decoding for

00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:48.000
that not sure actually Android oreo might i

00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:52.240
know that oreo just added some new codecs like from sony there was a so a

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:55.039
proprietary sony codec that oreo is supporting them it would depend on the

00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:59.520
hardware though so it would be if the uh if the adreno GPU has like hardware

00:23:57.840 --> 00:24:03.520
decoding for that quality of h260 i mean probably

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:07.919
people are probably correcting me in twitch chat but yeah i guess there's probably no reason you couldn't play

00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:10.960
back full quality blu-rays on your phone plus a lot of phones are getting HDR now

00:24:09.679 --> 00:24:16.240
other than that it would be really stupid um because

00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:20.559
honestly on a phone screen it is pretty hard to tell the difference between like

00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:24.720
a decent 720p video stream and like the highest quality that you

00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:27.760
can stream on plex let alone like a full blu-ray quality but here's the question

00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:31.840
that was on my mind when i read this headline yeah i kind of thought

00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:36.240
big deal like can't they release a headline like this every month like is

00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:40.320
this just an incremental upgrade because these you know just like uh processing

00:24:38.159 --> 00:24:44.799
power like these things are just on up and to the right at all times yes and no

00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:49.440
i mean it has slowed down even in the time since Linus media group was founded

00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:53.919
all of this stuff has slowed down significantly i like it used to be that

00:24:51.919 --> 00:24:57.360
you got a new like doubling of hard drive capacities it felt like every few

00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:02.960
months and you know in the okay so here in the time

00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:07.840
since i've been a pc enthusiast so it must have been around 2003 2004

00:25:06.159 --> 00:25:12.640
when you went to the store and bought like a decent sized hard drive it was

00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:17.679
120 gigs well i remember the first computer that my family bought it was 30

00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:19.200
gigs okay so in 2003 2004 like an

00:25:17.679 --> 00:25:23.360
enthusiast would run out and buy a hard drive that was anywhere from 80 to 120

00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:27.840
gigs and you could get higher ones but they were like pretty pricey

00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:35.120
okay when Linus media group started that was 2003 that was 10 years later 13. it

00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:38.320
was um about 3 terabytes

00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:41.039
since then so that is that is what an a

00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:44.480
factor of what so times 10 times 3. so that's 30 times the size in that 10

00:25:43.600 --> 00:25:49.919
years so since then we've gone from 3 to 12

00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:53.679
so we've managed to 4x and it's been almost 5 years

00:25:51.760 --> 00:25:56.559
so think about that well i actually catfished you a little

00:25:54.960 --> 00:26:00.559
bit because the answer to my questions in the show notes because

00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:03.440
this new 400 Gigabyte card is going to be the new world record holder for this

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:07.440
format and the previous holder that they're

00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:10.440
displacing was

00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:17.279
samsung who had 256 gigabytes yep and that's just last year but it had been a

00:26:15.679 --> 00:26:22.000
little while so that's something that you might not be factoring in and

00:26:19.520 --> 00:26:26.480
uh honestly i think the bigger deal for mobile storage for for flash cards is

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:30.960
really going to be a speed increase versus just continuing to ramp up the

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:36.080
capacity because we've got standards like um

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:40.159
shoot what's that uh there's a new super small card standard

00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:43.760
i it's it's escaping me right now but we've got standards coming that are

00:26:41.520 --> 00:26:47.120
going to perform much more similarly to a full speed SATA drive or even a pci

00:26:45.840 --> 00:26:53.840
express drive and this card sure 400 gigs but it only

00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:59.039
copies data at 100 megabytes a second so it would actually take a really

00:26:56.320 --> 00:27:04.159
really long time to fill it up like i don't it's not like you could use your

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:08.320
phone as like a super high speed you

00:27:04.159 --> 00:27:09.679
know um external drive for your laptop

00:27:08.320 --> 00:27:14.240
when you're on the road and you're video editing or something like that not at those kinds of speeds no that's bunk so

00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:19.279
i don't really understand what you're gonna be keeping on it unless it's something ridiculous like oh i need to

00:27:17.520 --> 00:27:23.360
carry my blu-ray collection with me yeah eventually this is just gonna be your

00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:29.200
your way way way cold storage backup this is your amazon glacier

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:35.039
micro sd cards microsd cards yeah yeah i got the whole business here amazing

00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:37.120
amazing amazing storage density

00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:42.320
don't mind that the cost is just completely uncompetitive with tape don't

00:27:39.679 --> 00:27:46.240
worry about that also the the incredibly complicated controller we need to access

00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:50.960
you know what i mean what would that be that would be like

00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:56.480
you know a thousand micro sd cards in the space of a single tape drive

00:27:53.679 --> 00:27:56.480
cartridge like

00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.880
what what controller is that because you'd basically be looking at like us an

00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:07.120
incredibly complex SSD controller by that point

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:10.159
um all right what else we got for today what else is interesting talk about this

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:14.399
orbee touch stuff uh yeah sure like i normally organize

00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:17.600
the show notes with more boring things or niche things at the bottom and this

00:28:16.159 --> 00:28:22.080
is pretty close to the bottom but i feel like i'm here and

00:28:19.840 --> 00:28:25.039
i think it's kind of cool sure like the screenshot is in the show notes so we

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:29.279
should just open it that way so basically

00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:33.120
we've been on like this wonky keyboard kick for a little while

00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:38.240
hey i just work here yeah

00:28:35.679 --> 00:28:41.760
so i've done like three um alternative keyboards we did the advantage two which

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.399
is an ergonomic one then we did the safe type keyboard which is just a more

00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:49.360
obscure ergonomic keyboard and now we've

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:53.039
done the orbi touch which is coming up on the on flow plane and on youtube soon

00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:57.279
so the orbee touch is a keyless keyboard it's got these two domes that you move

00:28:54.960 --> 00:29:00.159
around in a coordinated fashion the process is called chording so

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.240
basically there's i think eight or so different clusters

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:09.279
of letters on the one hand and i you point to one cluster and then

00:29:07.600 --> 00:29:14.720
with the other hand you specify which symbol in the cluster you actually wanna

00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:14.720
do sounds like a cluster to me

00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:21.360
okay but beyond the actual keyboard the company's actually ported this same

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.679
typing method to vr and while the keyboard is aimed at

00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:29.679
people who have low finger dexterity in vr it's actually probably just the

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:33.840
better way to type for everybody right because you just uh you just gesture

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:38.720
for which key you want to press unfortunately your link doesn't work

00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:42.080
because you linked to your own inbox oh i didn't know that worked that way yeah

00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.960
no that that that's definitely just show my inbox but

00:29:43.520 --> 00:29:48.640
i'm not logged in you have the keys

00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:52.080
sort of go to lastpass get my password go to my email no no i can't i no i

00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.960
don't i don't have your lastpass information that's not how lastpass

00:29:53.600 --> 00:29:58.159
works i actually can't look at what you store

00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.480
in it without locking you out

00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:05.039
so maybe i'm using it wrong i shouldn't put that in there

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.120
anyway the point is everyone has everyone who's used vr has

00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:16.399
probably felt a little silly holding these kick-ass touch controllers

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:18.559
and then using them to like laser beam

00:30:16.399 --> 00:30:22.080
a a letter on a key yeah it's actually really inefficient and the worst part

00:30:20.159 --> 00:30:25.520
about it is that whenever you're pointing out a letter when you pull the

00:30:23.919 --> 00:30:30.000
trigger it like moves your hand a little bit so typing with any kind of reasonable

00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:34.320
speed is actually pretty difficult and fatiguing i mean if

00:30:32.399 --> 00:30:37.360
you're the if you like to like tom cruise and always hold your touch

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:44.000
controller out like that instead of brandon leeing and holding it close to your body you after all that typing time

00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:48.640
your ARM's gonna get tired you know speaking of your arms getting tired

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take one back yeah okay i think these are gonna work for me

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are we like disclosing in a sponsor spot embargoed information from a sponsor

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that kind of stuff's not embargoed every comp once company wants to go global

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all right moving on i fix it so i fix it

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do they really need an introduction at this point probably not but we'll do it anyway hey alex can i have that ifixit

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.440
kit that we were just using to complete a project that we just did is that a pro

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a dell computer some other phone if it's a device i fix it's got a guide for how

00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:05.359
to tear it apart and sometimes how to put it back together and

00:35:03.040 --> 00:35:10.720
they're also leading the charge in terms of repair it yourself

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:15.280
culture because they not only provide the guides they also have an extensive

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:19.440
range of replacement parts including really hard to find stuff like weird

00:35:17.359 --> 00:35:24.240
little adhesives or gaskets that are required to put a system back together

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:28.960
and tools like yes my friends the pro-tec tool kit it's

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:33.520
now only 59.95 and includes their 64-bit driver kit

00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:40.640
which has pretty much every bit you could possibly need and a bunch of other

00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:43.440
cool stuff for prying picking poking

00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:47.440
anti-staticking thank you bixby i wasn't talking to you i messed with this thing

00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:52.800
for a second what bixby yeah no this thing um

00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:56.880
as a noob i have found two things in particular that i like about this

00:35:55.040 --> 00:35:59.760
yeah we actually hired a noob as a writer like

00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:04.800
never built a computer before this is kind of a yeah well i was going to kind of get to that but it's kind of a funny

00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:10.839
story from his interview um i one of the questions that i asked

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:16.160
every interviewee was um tell me about some projects that

00:36:13.839 --> 00:36:19.359
you have on the go right now so Anthony one of the other writers that we hired

00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:24.079
at the same time he's like oh yeah well i've got all these like uh retro

00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:29.040
consoles that i'm uh repairing and like soldering back together um alex tells me

00:36:27.359 --> 00:36:34.320
about his like dune buggy like creation from scratch

00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:36.560
team that he participated mad max probably shoots potatoes at the size

00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:42.960
yeah james is like i built my own computer that's no that's

00:36:40.560 --> 00:36:47.200
not what i said i said okay well what do you mean like building your own

00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:50.320
computer and you said uh actually i would consider that to be

00:36:49.040 --> 00:36:53.520
pretty basic and i was like oh

00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.839
okay hopefully make it to the next round

00:36:56.160 --> 00:37:02.720
yeah so somehow somehow you ended up around here okay so given that perspective yeah

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.560
i was blown away by the fact that this puppy spins because then you can just

00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:10.720
hold it in one hand and as you spin you don't have to reset your hand that's that's just amazing

00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:16.240
there's so many people face palming right now and tool of the week this

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:19.839
puppy is this the spudger uh i actually you know what i'm gonna confess they all

00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:22.640
got cool names i can't remember which one's the spudger i think it's the black

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:26.800
pokey one i'm pretty sure whatever this is called

00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:32.079
i'm just gonna give it a new name right now uh i don't know the unboxing but i use

00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:37.280
this this is the spudger you're gonna get us in trouble with every sponsor

00:37:34.839 --> 00:37:41.280
oh why do i let you come on the show live i was talking to the ifixit ladies

00:37:39.359 --> 00:37:45.359
at ltx and we were making all sorts of good names with these things this should

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:48.800
this is a pokey anyway this is great for opening boxes a

00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:53.359
lot of people who work here just have not like knives on their keychains like Linus does tyler does they unbox things

00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:59.040
all day i haven't gone to that level yet because i'm a minimalist

00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:03.920
on my keychains i actually have a separate keychain just for my car key

00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:08.240
and the key that unlocks this office that way on the weekend i don't have to

00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:10.000
have those extra two keys that's how

00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:14.160
much i hate things being in my pocket so this thing is awesome for just opening

00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:17.040
up a new box of fans love it totally worth the price of

00:38:15.359 --> 00:38:21.440
admission all right well i'm sure that uh most of

00:38:19.359 --> 00:38:26.400
you will find um over at ifixit.com lineup 60 bucks i'm

00:38:24.560 --> 00:38:30.000
sure most of you will find more complex things to work on with that uh speaking

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:34.400
of working on complex things alex are you done with that or yeah you're done

00:38:32.160 --> 00:38:37.920
okay cool conclusion uh okay do you want to come on and join the show

00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:43.359
okay cool all right i actually get to go home

00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:47.280
yeah Anthony already left diddy what time is it oh wow it's six oh

00:38:45.839 --> 00:38:51.280
well i can't make you during the show but if you want to then you can

00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:56.960
otherwise i'll just sit here and be a show all by myself bye everybody yep see

00:38:54.079 --> 00:39:00.960
ya goodbye i'm dc right oh how do i make this

00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:04.160
fine so alex um do you did you want to have do they

00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.920
know who you are i don't know if they know who you are i think some of them

00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:12.000
maybe i'm not totally sure yeah alex says uh alex is a toronto blue jays fan

00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:16.880
apparently i actually didn't you watch baseball when they get into playoffs yes okay so

00:39:15.359 --> 00:39:21.920
you're a typical so you're a typical canadian baseball fan yeah

00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:26.000
it's like well we've only got one team and uh

00:39:23.359 --> 00:39:29.839
gee 182 games is a lot to watch in a year so

00:39:27.359 --> 00:39:32.720
yeah i'ma just yeah

00:39:31.200 --> 00:39:37.200
i'd say the same about hockey but being a toronto fan like then i wouldn't watch

00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:40.400
a game in like the past 20 years so are you a toronto fan yeah

00:39:41.200 --> 00:39:47.599
what it's the closest team well

00:39:45.359 --> 00:39:52.160
montreal is the closest team montreal is evil though not to mention

00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:57.599
that like anyone else is the closest team to being worthy of your fandom i

00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:00.720
mean that's a factor as well they're just toronto

00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:05.200
i don't know i wanted to be a rebel everyone in my household is a montreal

00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:09.680
fan and i was just like you know what no i'm being a toronto fan and stir things

00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:13.280
up all right well speaking of fans these uh these cpus are definitely going to

00:40:11.839 --> 00:40:18.880
need fans because they have a lot of course wow that was a great segue i still got

00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:23.280
it baby so this was posted by ezzy on the forum and the original architect is

00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:29.200
oh architect articles from over on a non-tech Intel launches xeon w cpus for

00:40:27.200 --> 00:40:33.280
workstations so

00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:39.680
there's some good news here um the good news is i guess that now on the

00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:45.040
workstation you can get support for up to 512 gigs of ecc so that's error

00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:49.680
correcting memory um

00:40:46.720 --> 00:40:55.200
it goes all the way from 4 cores to 18 core line to 18 cores in the xeon w

00:40:52.640 --> 00:40:58.960
family so i guess that's cool um extent so extended memory support v

00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:03.520
pro uh Intel's amt

00:41:01.520 --> 00:41:08.079
standard reliability service ability and availability features

00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:13.040
so it's good in that there's like a higher end workstation platform but it's

00:41:11.359 --> 00:41:18.319
kind of sucky in that basically Intel has gone from

00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:24.000
quite a few generations ago where lga 775 and 771 were pretty much a

00:41:22.560 --> 00:41:29.280
little piece of tape apart and you could kind of like mod one

00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:34.079
two to the other and you could pretty easily run sort of workstation

00:41:31.839 --> 00:41:39.680
chips and in uh mainstream boards and vice versa to now this requires an

00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:41.040
all-new chipset um and we've got sort of

00:41:39.680 --> 00:41:45.839
their their enterprise server xeons we've got

00:41:44.160 --> 00:41:50.000
consumer and then we've got this in between and there's not a lot of

00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:56.800
interchangeability in spite of the fact that there's really no compelling reason

00:41:53.359 --> 00:41:59.119
for why that would have to be physically

00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:03.119
yeah like 1366 you could just take an i7 and plop in and on and like

00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:10.079
it wouldn't even matter right yep in fact um

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:11.920
i mean running server grade processors

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:17.839
in consumer motherboards is something that i have personally done like back in

00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:22.800
the day uh with my opteron 165 on socket 939 the great thing about the operon 165

00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:26.720
is that it was it was a good value because it ran at a super low clock

00:42:24.560 --> 00:42:29.359
speed but by putting it in a consumer board you could overclock the stuffing

00:42:28.160 --> 00:42:33.760
out of it and you could get great performance per dollar this is just

00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:36.400
artificially locking down the performance per dollar that's

00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:41.760
available and just you know there you go with that

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:46.720
said i don't think there's really any i think it's like okay i guess Intel's

00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.520
other behavior over the last little while has made it less of a factor

00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:54.160
because it's not like anything that's not an x or a k skew is overclockable

00:42:52.160 --> 00:42:59.280
anyway and these chips are going to come in more expensive than the equivalent

00:42:56.319 --> 00:43:02.720
core i9s anyhow so there would be other than the second hand market no

00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:06.240
compelling reason to go and buy one of these if you don't need ecc memory

00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:09.839
support well also there's that they just have

00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:14.800
is it functionally any different than i-9 or they're just locking you out in many

00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:18.800
different ways for different markets no it actually really doesn't look that

00:43:16.720 --> 00:43:22.560
different so if you go ahead and have a look at the line up here let's go ahead

00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:27.839
and go down so here you go here's how they're differentiating it there's

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:32.000
expert xeon scalable so this the equivalent used to be the e5 2600 so

00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:36.000
this is what we would have used for projects like seven gamers one CPU in

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:42.000
like dual socket motherboards that kind of thing xeon w

00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:45.200
is uh what would have been e5 1600

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:47.359
and then xeon e3 is entry so this would

00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:53.119
probably be what would have previously been like lga 1150 11 5x xeons uh where

00:43:51.839 --> 00:44:00.640
you don't actually get like the quad channel memory or anything like that you just get ecc

00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:02.720
so uh avx five twelve acceleration

00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:06.560
up to uh yep okay so yeah pretty much you get a four

00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:11.200
a couple four cores a couple six cores an eight to ten 14 and an 18.

00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:15.280
one thing i don't know is how these bass frequencies and turbo frequencies

00:44:12.640 --> 00:44:19.359
compare to the core i9s and pricing is still unclear but what we can at least

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.040
kind of figure out is that this looks pretty darn similar

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:27.839
to the 7900x and it is another 440 dollars for pretty

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:32.240
much those um you know enterprise features and ecc

00:44:29.839 --> 00:44:36.240
memory well in fairness the and you don't get overclocking anymore

00:44:33.680 --> 00:44:40.319
i'm assuming 2125 actually doesn't look that horrible

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:47.599
yeah but why would you buy a quad core at 400 this is basically what a uh

00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:48.480
well how much is a 7700 a 7740k

00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:53.200
right and the 7740k can be had for cheaper

00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:58.720
than that and it's overclockable and i wouldn't run out and invest in

00:44:55.520 --> 00:45:00.800
this kind of like an lga 2066 platform

00:44:58.720 --> 00:45:04.800
for a quad-core processor that's just like

00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.119
kind of dumb yeah it's like not too bad if you're

00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:11.680
in a situation that you're never going to have yeah

00:45:09.359 --> 00:45:16.240
so that's kind of where we're at on that um actually oh this is cool so uh ian

00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:22.720
from anontec went ahead and did a little comparison chart here so 17 here's a

00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:26.480
comparison between the top skews on each platform so the super high-end one

00:45:25.359 --> 00:45:31.839
um which actually now gets a new socket so

00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:35.280
that allows it to have more cores more

00:45:31.839 --> 00:45:38.640
PCIe thread up excuse me no no more PCIe

00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:42.240
lanes but far more cores up to 28 cores

00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:43.920
and 56 threads and six channel memory

00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:47.599
um that one's going to cost you anywhere from 10 to

00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.119
thousand dollars for example the price 81.80

00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:56.160
and then on the sort of the high-end workstation slash high-end desktop

00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:59.599
platforms you're looking at two thousand dollars tbd but if i had to

00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:04.800
guess i'd probably say around three grand or 3 500 you get a few more PCIe

00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:08.640
lanes so the same as the very high end zeons and then you get very similar

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:12.079
clock speeds actually a little bit more on boost a little bit less on bass

00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:16.400
and a lower TDP and then

00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:20.480
more memory support and registered memory support so

00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:24.640
yeah i can uh i guess that's the thing why don't we

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:30.560
move on yeah but are we still on Intel uh yeah core

00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:32.240
i7 8700k benchmarks have been leaked

00:46:30.560 --> 00:46:36.800
uh this was posted originally on the forum by i'm not sure james forgot to uh

00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:40.800
forgot to put that in oh i wish i had gotten to this one when he was here this

00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:44.160
was posted by raven shrike on the forum and the original article here is from

00:46:42.240 --> 00:46:49.760
wccf tech goodness

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.280
so this is a really really

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:56.720
interesting tip because word on the street

00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:59.520
according to you know the leaked box art here

00:46:58.319 --> 00:47:03.359
and uh the leaked benchmarks here

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:09.119
is that per core clock speed and performance is going to be pretty

00:47:06.240 --> 00:47:14.000
freaking similar to the CPU that it's replacing the 7700k

00:47:11.520 --> 00:47:18.880
except that it's gonna have six cores on what will presumably be a similarly

00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:23.599
priced mainstream motherboard and chipset platform

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:26.319
six course mainstream

00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:30.640
i'm excited Intel ran out and finally delivered us a high-end desktop platform

00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:35.280
worth writing home about and then went and made it irrelevant to

00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:38.560
the vast majority of consumers for whom six core is like definitely

00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:43.359
super enough um only a few months later

00:47:41.359 --> 00:47:47.440
it's exciting it's a great time to be alive uh what do we got here what are

00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:52.480
the leak specs um so it's a 3.7 gigahertz space

00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:56.240
frequency with boosts up to well the only really interesting one is

00:47:53.839 --> 00:48:00.560
4.7 gigahertz on one core so you think that's the only interesting one i am

00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:06.079
going to argue with you i think the 4.5 gigahertz two core boost

00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:11.200
is actually more important with how many games these days true are taking

00:48:08.240 --> 00:48:15.760
advantage of two cores that's the same as the 7700k isn't it

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:20.560
uh yeah i think so but the the word on the street though is that we're looking at a 10 ipc improvement

00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:25.280
so this thing could show up and absolutely kick the

00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.000
stuffing out of the computer that anyone who any

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:34.640
chumps out there who ran out and bought a 7 700 k

00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:38.800
it could be like the old days where every generation we had this deep

00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:44.000
buyer's remorse and we felt like there was actually enough of a performance

00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:46.000
improvement to be worth going out there

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:48.920
and buying a new one so word on the street is that it's going

00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:52.240
to cost 350 bucks when it launches

00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:56.960
but with a 10 ipc improvement

00:48:54.800 --> 00:49:00.880
similar clock speeds so you're looking at 10 faster right out of the gate

00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:05.920
plus that it could be up to 50

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:09.599
faster in heavily multi-threaded benchmarks

00:49:07.200 --> 00:49:17.200
and applications i mean this thing could show up and be legitimately like 140

00:49:14.319 --> 00:49:22.400
in the real world 140 150 percent the speed of a 7700k in something like video

00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:26.319
encoding and i guess also that's really bad news

00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:30.079
for AMD because that's kind of

00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:35.440
their buttery zone right now where they're like we have many cores it is

00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:39.920
going to put some pressure on ryzen 7. with that said

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:42.640
i mean AMD has shown a definite

00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:46.160
willingness to roll up their sleeves like they're rolling up the sleeves all

00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:49.440
the way to the point where like you are so white oh my god

00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:58.559
roll up the sleeves all the way to the point where uh

00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:02.880
there's no sleeves left anymore when it comes to adding more cores to cpus just

00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:06.400
because yolo and also they probably have a lot left over like in the tank verizon

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:09.920
like hopefully as they continue to improve it

00:50:08.640 --> 00:50:15.520
we'll see just generally it being better well when

00:50:12.319 --> 00:50:17.839
uh when jim keller left AMD so he left

00:50:15.520 --> 00:50:21.920
for tesla if i recall correctly so he left AMD to go to apple then he left

00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:26.559
apple to go back to AMD to like rescue them as far as i can tell and then left

00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:31.680
to go to tesla AMD made it very clear that his departure did not mean the end

00:50:29.359 --> 00:50:36.559
of the zen architecture zen 2.0 is already mapped out is my understanding

00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:38.960
so uh we already went through that topic we

00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:44.800
already went through that topic we already went through that topic uh galaxy note 7 owners will apparently

00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:48.800
get a massive discount on the note 8. so that's cool goodbye nick bye nick

00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:54.559
oh i was so upset about this topic this was posted by minnie beats on the forum the

00:50:52.640 --> 00:50:59.119
original article here is from pc gamer you guys should go check it out why are

00:50:56.240 --> 00:51:05.119
you upset by that one i'm upset because it never got released

00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:08.839
i liked the NVIDIA shield portable

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.839
really and a prototype

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:18.160
all right choose your choose your words carefully mr enjoys being employed here

00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:23.119
i just never really saw the appeal of it what's not to like it's a it's a

00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:27.680
handheld console that plays Android games and that

00:51:24.640 --> 00:51:30.800
streams your pc games

00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:35.240
so Android games are never great and pc

00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.240
games are only best played on a pc

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:43.920
what about pc platformers yeah what about okay i played through

00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.040
all of tomb raider on the NVIDIA shield

00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:48.480
whole game never felt like i was having a bad

00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.480
experience and the graphics were freaking awesome because it's a portable

00:51:50.319 --> 00:51:55.440
platform okay but

00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:58.880
and you can't i did not enjoy tomb raider at all i like played a bit if it was like

00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:03.280
gta 5 yeah there fine gta 5 who cares

00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:07.839
any game that plays well with the controller played great

00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:12.400
on the shield portable and uh basically yeah they this

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:17.040
prototype which looks like it has some seriously awesome improvements uh

00:52:15.040 --> 00:52:20.559
smaller bezels that was like one of the only things that i really felt like had

00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:23.440
to be fixed uh they changed some of the button placements it looks a bit more

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.359
ergonomic um oh man

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:35.040
just one prototype made it into the wild and

00:52:31.520 --> 00:52:37.119
that's it i even sent like and i shield

00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:41.280
portable was something that i would send fairly frequent sort of pings to our

00:52:39.520 --> 00:52:45.680
NVIDIA rep about like hey when you guys like doing a thing that's a new thing because

00:52:44.319 --> 00:52:49.680
like there's kind of an old processor now and they just never replied and

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:55.200
never replied and it made me sad uh screen was apparently

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brighter uh shut down instantly instead of taking a couple seconds

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and um yeah so i'm sad apparently nobody else

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is sad yeah i couldn't care less really

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well thanks

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uh speaking of things that uh we couldn't care less about actually this

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does seem kind of important youtube begins isolating offensive content

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this week they won't be able to run ads or and

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this is interesting be shared on other websites

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so google announced this in june that they would begin isolating youtube videos

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that weren't directly in violation of its standards but contained

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controversial religious or supremacist content

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so the videos that fall into this category aside from not being able to run ads or

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be monetized won't have comments disabled and may have a warning screen

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appear before they play this is meant to curtail engagement and minimize the

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video's reach so creators affected by the policy will

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receive a note and will be able to appeal the decision if they feel like

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the restrictions are unwarranted

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i guess first of all how do they flag it because i know

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their last role went horribly a lot of people got falsely flagged yeah

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so if they're able to improve that a bit that's an improvement i guess but let's see how

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it goes is all i have to say about that

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yeah i don't have high hopes for that and what was the other thing that i was

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going to say about this it also seems like it's going to have a

00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:36.400
lot of people that are just saying like oh they're just trying to like hurt my

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free speech and then they might almost get more shares out of being like my

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:44.079
free speech is hurt as opposed to

00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:47.280
just not being no one really caring

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all right so let's move on from that to something completely uncontroversial

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i just wanted to check i haven't checked the document yet do you guys have the juicero news in there did you cerro news

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no no uh oh i did hear about this though i

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thought you know what i think james specifically asked me if i

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wanted the juicero news in here oh they're shutting down um

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and i specifically told him yes

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i don't know how to spell juicero g-u-i-c-e-r-o

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i think you mean j-u-i but sure j-u-i okay so yeah no he didn't put it

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in okay so hold on let's go grab let's go grab an article here here's the

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verge's article uh juicero is shutting down

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um apparently they're trying to get bought

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so that's pretty cool i'm so surprised that they're shutting

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down said no one ever um all customers

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have up to 90 days to request a refund for their purchase of the ducero press

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regardless of when they bought it uh employees are being given 60 days

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notice um

00:55:56.000 --> 00:56:01.359
so like have you seen the insides of one of these those it's like super

00:55:59.359 --> 00:56:04.880
impressive the like level of over-the-top engineering is

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like insane it's like they gave someone like their first engineering job and

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:11.440
they were like make it the best and instead of them

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like doing anything besides making it the best they only made it the best

00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:21.760
it's i like the aluminum is like this thick and spot it's crazy

00:56:20.319 --> 00:56:27.200
there's no purpose for it to be like that and they must be losing heaps of money but like if these are all just

00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:30.720
going out if you're like a creator or like you like mod things just pick one

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:34.880
up like off the side of the road it will like there's amazing stuff inside of it fair

00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:40.720
enough all right here's something uncontroversial equally uncontroversial

00:56:38.720 --> 00:56:45.280
the pico goblin the ultra portable first fully

00:56:43.040 --> 00:56:51.040
untethered vr headset their claim to fame for this thing is that it doesn't

00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:54.960
require a pc it doesn't require any cables it doesn't require a phone

00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.960
nothing mind you i could have designed the pico

00:56:57.839 --> 00:57:03.520
goblin by taking some double-sided tape

00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:06.960
and a samsung gear vr or google cardboard

00:57:04.720 --> 00:57:11.680
and taping them together because to say that it doesn't require a phone

00:57:09.200 --> 00:57:19.280
and then tell me that it's running a qualcomm snapdragon 820 CPU with a 5.5

00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:21.040
inch 2560 by 1440 resolution display 3g

00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:27.680
high speed connectivity um doesn't say how much but lp ddr4 RAM

00:57:23.839 --> 00:57:31.760
16 gigs of emc 5.1 rom

00:57:27.680 --> 00:57:33.520
and a 3 500 milliamp hour battery

00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:38.000
is basically like telling me that you guys engineered a phone and then

00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:40.799
glue the headset to it it actually sounds a lot like the specs

00:57:39.520 --> 00:57:46.640
for the lg g4 specs for every phone ever

00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:53.200
with that said it's cheap so it's available for pre-order for 269 bucks if

00:57:49.359 --> 00:57:54.559
you wanted a craptastic vr experience

00:57:53.200 --> 00:58:01.440
because unless it's tracked outside in right now

00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:04.960
we are not there yet but where we are is at the end of the

00:58:03.040 --> 00:58:10.079
show so alex unless you have you looked like you were going to say something

00:58:07.200 --> 00:58:13.599
no okay all right i'm rolling the out trail

00:58:11.839 --> 00:58:18.160
goodbye people they can't hear you there's music um pretty sure they can still hear us

00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:22.559
yeah it's just and some people complain

00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:28.400
i don't know i kind of like it g4 was 808 dude not even close

00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:31.280
so yeah why don't you just get crapped on right there

00:58:30.240 --> 00:58:35.760
does anyone actually care about the snapdragon processors though um

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:40.880
yeah like they matter a bit but they're all kind of the same thing well like

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:44.760
they're they get faster i guess so yeah yeah
