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guys we got a lot of great topics for you the Fury X is sold out everywhere
why would that be i guess we'll find out won't we actually we're just going to be
speculating unless I have some insight i was actually I was gonna ping you for
that insight i have the insight okay anyways Batman Arkham Knight PC sales
have been suspended cuz because they
sprayed silly string at one of the teachers daughters yeah also Disney
Disney band selfie sticks probably also because of silly string yeah silly
string is for chumps and then I like silly string too but Xbox wants to give
silly stringers a chance or just people or people or people or ducks gamers or I
painted something last night your car no no i No i painted I painted a painting
oh I saw that that was actually pretty good yeah I painted a painting like
legitimately i I would troll you but it's it's actually pretty good that was
my painting it was It was literally
paint by numbers oh well sort of like
you free for you you did have to free form it but like there's instructions
it's like step by step it's like It's like I made this delicious roast duck
except that there's someone making roast duck right next to you so did they paint
the exact same painting but like but like So you you couldn't trace though no
you still had some skill then so I had So I had a hand in it but yeah it's not
like from a my Yeah but if it was your
That's like watching a recipe on YouTube and then recreating the recipe
except that in this case the person who is making the video you know the YouTube
video actually goes and obtains you like
the food that you need and the pot that you need and like the fresh water that
you need to clean your brush and a chair to sit in and a bunch of other people in
the room also making a duck i still think it's cool well thank you it
doesn't look as good in person oh I think that's kind of a thing with that
kind of stuff uh I guess we should roll the intro
yeah no okay one of these days we're going to
get this right it worked last week for the intro but not the outro did it i
thought I figured out what the problem was well that's cuz it tricks you it's
It's a It's a trust experiment it It pulls you in and then it throws you down
it's terrible okay well hold on a second i'm sure there's It's in the assets
folder right it's like chocolates you eat a whole bunch of them and your
body's like "Yeah this tastes good these are good for me." Oh man yesterday was
disgusting but you can't Can you say why
here we go
yay awesome people
Oh great oh sorry sorry squarespace it's
I fix it i fix it squarespace i fix it
all right guys so it's time to get this show on the road what were we starting
what were we talking our first one is nine R9 Fury X selling out everywhere
and you already spoiled i was going to ask you the question to bring you into
the thing but All right so first let's get the link to the forum up in there do
you have it do you have it okay i'm gonna bring up WCCF Tech everybody's
favorite new site for graphics cards sold
out now here's the thing sold out can
mean a lot of different things it can mean that there wasn't enough it can
mean that the demand was incredibly high
it can mean that you took a bunch of money and abandoned your values and
morals for the money sold out can mean a
lot of different things but what sold out means in this case I believe and the
the the the under headline here this is
interesting fury X selling like hot cakes have you ever even bought a hot
cake no so they must not sell that well I've never even seen a hot cake for sale
okay should we straw pull this how many people have bought a hot cake who has bought a hot cake what is a hot cake see
I don't even know so they're not marketed very well
okay let's We're straw this should be called the R9 hotcake we are straw
pulling the crap out of this hot cakes uh yes all the time
uh never heard of them well turnip maybe
maybe hot cakes are turnips uh never heard of them and oh let's go somewhere
in between so we need to hear from you guys about hot cakes well cuz I've heard
of them but I never purchased them but you don't know what they are exactly
that's fair which is part of why you like that's like me saying that I've
I've heard of you know um Clandiston
Destiny and like but I don't know what that
would be right exactly it's a pancake
it's a pancake wow i've had a lot of pancakes really why are they called
pancake hot hot cakes are pancakes hot cake noun a pancake why don't you just
call it a pancake well cuz it's hot
idiot what pancakes no I'm with you
i'm just trolling the crap out of you right now cuz I'm 100% on the same page
on the the first link Yahoo answers "What is a hot cake and if they're
selling so well wait for it why have I never seen one?"
Okay all right anonymous poster what is your name you don't even have a profile
picture but I'm totally with you okay so
31% of you yes all the time with 27% of
you having never heard of them just like us is this an Americanism maybe oh uh I
don't know because everyone that I know something went wrong doesn't know who it
is damn earliest times in hot cakes cooked in bear grease or pork lard were
popular from earliest times in American in American first made of I'm thinking
they mean cornmeal the griddle something blah blah blah etc etc so maybe this is
an American thing but then again pancakes is that an
American thing i I I I I I feel like everyone that I know from the States
says pancakes everyone in the chat is saying American thing there's some
people saying it's an English thing but almost everybody's saying American thing
okay and and I've got people saying McDonald's calls them hot cakes not up
here mcdonald's had pancakes that was like 10 years ago or 15 years ago but
they had them they called them pancakes so I Oh I thought someone was going to
come in here and correct us and they're not welcome in this room pancakes are
not American well we've done some some solid research on this show yeah
obviously um so let's get into the stuff that we actually have any idea what
we're talking about with here so WCCF text article says uh selling like hot
cakes and out of stock at all major retailers on day one so I have a little
bit of special insight i can't let you guys know who my you know special
informant would happen to be but what I
heard from someone involved in the
retailer business is that on launch day
they had literally zero like not one not
a single one they could be selling like hot cakes if McDonald's didn't have any
that day cuz they screwed up their order right well but then they wouldn't have
screwed up their order and and I heard a rumor that the total inbound shipments
is somewhere in the neighborhood of um
you know what I don't want to say too much so let's say uh let's say I don't
think they're selling that well
i I suspect that in North
America in North America I suspect and
this is just based on things when you don't have them in North America I
suspect there are less than a thousand would be my guess that's a somewhat
educated guess basically the Fury X
doesn't even exist so there you go um I mean here
here's what I want to know let's straw pull the Let's straw pull this this
should be just just be straw pole day just straw pull everything straw pole
straw pole day today fury X the answers
are and I want Okay a lot of the time we we just we just like we troll you guys
okay I'm counting on you this time i do
want real answers this time because wrong thing to say to Twitch chat no no
no no no no no no no our our viewers they they got our back on this one
because this is actually pretty important it's for everyone's benefit to
know what's going on here so theory X
the answers are I have one
i know someone who has one
or other so like you don't have one and
you don't know anyone who has one so
we're going to go ahead we're going to create that straw and there no there is
no you're for real there is no troll turnip response because I want to know
what's going on are they selling like hot cakes or do they not exist let's go
ahead and fire these results up here really interesting um Lionus's
screen so
we don't count yeah we don't count we have one so reviewers okay guys if
you've already voted and you sort of uh anyone who didn't pay for it doesn't
count so if you happen to know like Ryan Smith from a non techch that doesn't
count he didn't buy it
so pretty much it looks like um it looks
like I was barking up the right tree there do you know what to give us some
context for this I'm going to go ahead i'm going to create a new straw pull
right now called 980 Ti i was See I was I was
I knew where you were going with this but I was thinking about saying uh Titan
X just cuz I know that 980 Ti is going to win this is going to make it a little
bit harder on that team but if you want like a price point comparison because 98
has been out longer too so long higher likeliness that someone is going to have
it okay all right okay no no okay what we need to do then but the Titan X has
been out even longer no let's revise Let's revise the question then okay so
980 Ti i got I got
one in launch week
i know someone who got one launch week okay
and other and other okay and again we
don't count and like reviewers don't count people that got it for free yeah we We want to hear from you guys we want
to know like what's going on here so Lionus is screen share we've got just
shy of 95% of you so with a whopping 34
so a whopping 60 of you either have one
or know someone who has one and since I suspect there's a little bit of
dishonesty at least basically out of the Lionus Tech Tips
audience if nobody has these cards I'm
I'm I'm straight up kind of calling yeah these actually don't exist so let's go
ahead and let's post that 980 Ti straw pull now and I want to see the results
from that from you guys this is going to be really interesting
so okay so we've got here 15% of you
saying they had got one in launch week or they know someone who got one in
launch week so with that said I know
that 980 Ti was quite supply constrained
as well in fact continues to be to be supply constrained we actually pitched
to a major graphics card maker that they send us 10 980 Ti not permanently so
that we could test um which ones would which ones would turbo boost the most we
talked about this on WAN Show last week that was your idea well was it my idea
it was your idea we We were talking about it and you were like "What if we
got like 10?" And I was like "Okay." Cuz I was talking about like two oh okay
well it was a group idea the Okay not the point anyway the point is they
basically went "No we don't have enough to even lend them to you for a week." Um
and I was like "Well what if you lent them to me and like you give me NCIX's
allocation and then I hand deliver them to NCIX." So they're going like they're
going straight to the retailer right we don't have any bro so when you compare
that to R9 Fury
X which is a little weird too because
the balance is off if you look at the two charts um on average the exact same
amount basically having one and knowing someone who has one for Fury X and then
almost twice as much which is expected someone knowing someone who has one
compared to having one for 980 Ti right so that means that the Fury X1 probably
is just full of trolls who are just picking anything well the 980 Ti one
probably has a lot of trolls too but that but that split actually makes a lot
more sense on the 980 Ti one having a lot more people knowing someone who has
one very very interesting especially with the percentage of people that are
watching the WAN Show probably having a very high percentage of people that are on the forum meaning that they very
likely know someone who owned one of those cards so that's very interesting
um now I have to run for a minute cuz speaking of the Fury X I think I might have left it in my car um so you're on
your own for the next topic okay well knowing that Lionus leaves his car
unlocked if someone can get to the outside of the Linus Tech Tips
headquarters before Lionus can you can get a Fury X for free
it's not really free it's stealing but you know anyways in other
news we have more AMD stuff which I'm sure Lionus will want to weigh in on AMD
says Granada Pro and XT are not rebrands of Hawaii
and they're a little bit right i was on
the call with AMD while they were talking about this and they were like
"No we spent a year working on these things we've improved stuff." Blah blah
blah blah blah so I will talk about what they've done they've increased memory
clock um from 1250 MHz to 1500 megahertz
on both 390 and 390X they've increased memory bandwidth from 320 GB per second
to 384 GB per second and there's an 8 GB
frame buffer on all their cars instead of a four uh so there isn't like the OC
version 8 GB and nonC version 4 GB setup
um they did a complete rewrite of the GPU's power management micro
architecture so that in worst case scenarios they're kind of the same in
terms of power and in typical gaming load the 300 series uh 390 and 390X will
draw less power than a 290X and perform a little bit better than a 290X
our new one yeah it was actually it wasn't even in my car it was in the
trailer behind my car oh my god
yeah I didn't see it cuz it was under something which is probably why no one
else saw it oh yeah so this is our new Fury X uh which is really funny cuz I
was at uh I was at NCX today shooting NCIX tech tips and um they were like
"You have two we didn't even get one."
And I was like "No no we only have two cuz our first one was DOA." And they're
like "Yeah but we didn't even get one." It's like "How did you get how'd you get
two?" I'm like "Well when we said it was dead they sent us a new one right now." And I think our performance after seeing
everyone else's reviews I think our performance on the first one might actually be fine it's just artifacting
all over the place right yeah cool which isn't like we can't report that cuz Yeah
exactly like we're not going to report those numbers but we we straight up were
like "Okay it's not performing as well as like you guys are saying it is." Yeah
and so we thought the reason for that was that it was artifacting we didn't
think the reason for that was that it just didn't perform as well as uh as
expected what I'm talking about is uh the rebrand stuff possibly not being as
rebrand as people might have thought blah blah blah have you read about that at all i have is that one of our news
topics today cuz if so we should jump right into it that's what we're doing oh that's what we're doing right now yeah
so my problem with the way that AMD is
spinning this and spin is really the right word here is that it's all about
presentation Intel did Haswell
refresh they did a
4790K which was basically a 4770K with a
clock speed bump and changed thermal interface material and a refinement of
the manufacturing process but they were straight up about it and they didn't
increase the first indention number exactly they didn't call it 5000 series
yeah yeah that was my main point this is a 300 series card if it was like the
29 something although that gets weird cuz they've already used some of those
numbers and and like here's here's the other issue
like what's the what's the code name.5 what's the what's the code name for it
it's um because they changed it from Hawaii to something else like they
actually gave it a new code name granada Pro yeah Granada so they changed it from
Hawaii to Granada whereas Intel even
their internal code name is Haswell
Refresh cuz that's what it is in fact it
is it's even it's even sort of unusual
for for Intel to do something like that and the only reason they did that was
because they changed the thermal interface material that was that was a
huge part of the reason for that otherwise they could have just called it 4790K and it would have just been a
higher speed bin in fact that's the way it used to work in the past if you guys
remember back to the like the Pennium 4 days you'd get an architecture whether
it's you know will or Northwood or Northwood B Northwood C like they used
to revise them like that and then you'd get like okay you know it's a 3.0 GHz
Northwood C and that would be the flagship and then 3 months down the line
or 6 months down the line they'd launch the 3.2 GHz Northwood C they would call
it a different thing you don't you don't have to call it a completely different
thing it's just like oh yeah it's a speed bump that's what it is and and we can recognize that it's better that's
fine that's cool i want to bench a 390X versus a 290X to like show what
potential improvements there could be probably mainly power but whatever um
and but but like don't call it don't make a layman think that it's a jump i
think that's the biggest problem because nobody in our audience is going to be
fooled is going to think that a 390X is a big upgrade over because there's
threads all over the forum and stuff but people are trying to be like "Oh yeah
you should get into PC gaming it's really not that hard to build a computer
all this kind of stuff it's super easy just pick some parts and like if you buy
within the right part price categories it's probably going to be fine." And
someone's going to go to the store and buy a 390X and be like "Yeah I'm going to rock all those dudes with a 290X."
Doesn't want to do a whole bunch of research that's fine you shouldn't have
to a higher number should be better yeah
and when it sounds a little and you know what but the thing the thing about all
of this though is that I don't want to ride AMD too hard about it because it's
super crappy it's a crappy thing to do there's much worse stuff but NVIDIA's
done it too it's not like it's not like
it happens all the time yes especially on the low end then you see the thing
about NVIDIA is they're kind of like they're savvy enough to not try to pull
the wool over the eyes of the enthusiast like NVIDIA is going to go "Okay yeah we
know we're re-releasing the 680 so we're just they're going to call it 770 we're
going to we're going to knock it down a peg at the very least when we at least
there's that because this is a 290X and a 390X." But when it comes to the
general the general consumer oriented
cards it's not like NVIDIA hasn't done that with I I believe the 300 series
many of you won't even know there was a 300 series because it was OEM only SKUs
was a straight rebrand of 200 series low-end cards straight rebrand they
changed it from a two to a three maybe that's what made AMD think it was okay
um and it's not for their two to three and I mean it's not like NVIDIA
hasn't milked a micro architecture before i mean um shoot I can't remember
what 8800 GT G92 G92 NVIDIA milked the
crap out of that thing that was the 8800
GTX or GT didn't they literally like
sticker pull and resticker cards yeah the 9800 GTX Plus or something became
the GTS 250 and so the 8800 GT somehow
turned into a 9800 GTX which turned into a 9800 GTX Plus which I think had more
RAM or something so that's pretty much what we're looking at here at least they
called it a plus instead of like a something you know higher number oh wait
except when they rebranded it GTS 250 so
let's not pretend that um let's not
pretend that AMD is the only one doing it it's just crappy no matter who does
it and AMD has done it most recently so they're the ones that we're going to
pull down our pants and take a big turd on for doing it this time
it's not Yeah it's not the worst thing in the world but it's not good and the
fact that they're sticking to their guns about this is like come on it's not a
rebrand because it has we worked on it for a year with one person part-time one
day a week like I shouldn't say that no
and that's not fair be nice um and like
like I get it like 290x 8 gig was actually limited in terms of which board
partners were making them not because AMD doesn't want to sell you a higher
ASP card but because yields were probably very limited either because
they were saving cores for this or because they really did have to retool
things fairly significantly in order to make it all happen and the the power
stuff is legitimately cool and may have taken a lot of work but there's a lot of
people speculating and I kind of think they might be right that the memory being faster is just because they put
better memory on it like nah that's why I said it didn't
really take any time the power stuff yeah okay could be a lot more difficult
all right speaking of We might be wrong about the memory stuff that are a lot
more difficult oh god uh here i'll go
ahead i'll post this do you want Do you want to Do you want to Do you want to lead us off on this one okay so Arkham
Gate don't screw with PC Masterate I
guess um Night Gate pc Master Race got
real mad and everyone that owns a computer and wanted to play Batman got
really mad uh because Batman Arkham
Knight was frame rate capped at 30 FPS did you see the funny photo where it was
like a speed limit sign in the background that said 30 did you see that
i didn't see that that was hilarious uh I don't know if we're going to be able
to find it but I can try maybe someone will post it in the Twitch chat someone
was like "Did did uh did they warn us?" and it was like a a Batman teaser photo
and he's coming towards the camera in the background there's a speed limit 30
sign sorry I just thought it was hilarious um so people were demanding
refunds like crazy i think a lot of people did get refunds through Steam and
then Steam actually suspended sales of the game or I don't know if it was
Warner Brothers or Warner Brothers warner Brothers suspended sales of the game um Steam ratings were sitting
around 35% positive holy crap that's
terrible anyways um that hurts
yeah so that's basically it to be
completely honest apparently it was able to be unlocked by editing an INI file
but like but like why
why like I I get it i like having the
INI file i had to use an INI file yesterday because I was trying to launch
Crisis 3 and I had copied over a save game and the last thing I had should be
there in like uh like last case like
last resort or or like if you're if you're 80 mods deep in Skyrim and you're
like I broke something but I can fix it like that's exactly so in this situation
the last computer I had used it on was the iMac Retina so it was a 5K display
so like when I opened the game it was like I was seeing like the corner of it
on a 1080p display so I couldn't actually navigate to the menu to change
my settings and I was like "Okay this is an unusual situation that pretty much
nobody would ever find themselves in." Yeah okay i'll I'll break out the INI
file to to just have to to need the INI
file in order to unlock the game from 30 FPS is
just totally unacceptable and the the
thing that I don't get is how do they
not learn check your hands how is it possible that
they cannot learn oh yeah here it is
this is awesome this is from uh the PC master race subreddit um have you So
you've seen this yeah in the background there's a 30 FPS like not 30 FPS but
it's a speed limit 30 30 m hour I guess speed limit FPS lock warning i love the
MS paint skills here yeah yeah is that what that is
the fact that they can look at
Assassin's Creed Unity and look at
Watchd Dogs and look at these titles where developers are being crucified for
these completely unnecessary limitations
if it works above 30 FPS why isn't that
the default and I mean I guess saying it works is is sort of generous because um
I mean Warner Brothers came out and said that AMD owners would experience
performance issues which really I mean
the the most frustrating thing about this is that whether NVIDIA is being
completely upfront or not whether they are or not like if NVIDIA is to be
believed GameWorks doesn't hurt anyone else's performance it's just extra eye
candy that happens to run great on NVIDIA because they designed it and
basically handed it to the game developer to put inside the game so for
a developer to come out and just say uh
yeah it um just like is it is going to work kind of crap on uh on AMD cards by
the way this is a Game Works title i mean I would love to know you know
what's going on in NVIDIA's sort of minds when they're sitting there going
"Okay so we're going to be getting a bunch of bad PR over something that in
theory is just the developer and AMD not
getting their crap sorted out." Yeah just because we have Game Works in
theory and you know what i haven't and I
will probably never have get a full
understanding of what exactly goes on behind the scenes with GameWorks but
what I do know and this was a really good point from Tom Peterson about uh
what was it uh Witcher 3 I think where when it came out Yeah yeah witcher 3
came out and AMD performance wasn't very good and a lot of it was getting blamed
on GameWorks and then AMD had a fixed driver and I think it was one or two
weeks and so Tom Peterson kind of went well hold on a second so they managed to
fix it in like two weeks so where was that development effort two weeks before
the launch it seems to me there's no problem here um and I kind of went yeah
if they can fix this in like two weeks what's the problem here exactly there's
there's questions as to and like whether it was fully released to them and stuff
yep so there's questions about that two days before the launch or if they've
actually been working on it for a month and they had two weeks before and two
weeks after whatever but AMD also does a lot of crying about how Game Works is a
black box and impossible to optimize for when it turns out that two weeks after a
launch they they can optimize for it just fine um that's true so so anyway so
Warner Brothers already came out and said "Yep well AMD users peace bro." And
then performance is
um uh having some issues on NVIDIA GPUs
as well so um there you go steam ratings
were sitting at 35% positive like you said and Warner Brothers Games
apparently listened this is kind of funny uh some of the textures um uh some
effects like ambient occlusion and rain that the NVIDIA GameWorks video showed
off are actually completely missing on the PC but present on the PlayStation 4
i noticed that too well I didn't notice it pc mastery subreddit told me
those guys they're like the they're like the guardians of Have you seen the
rating system this should have been in this topic they're they're making a like
PC master I'll try to find it the TC Master Race like official rating system
and they have a chart um so like if if
your game only runs at 1080p you can't get above a certain rating if your game
doesn't have mods I think you can't get the glorious rating um but you can get
like righteous if you have a whole bunch of stuff but like not technically
everything and like there's this whole crazy It's cool um all right well in the
meantime I'll do a really quick topic here so we we talked about this last
week and the I was just going to say I could be wrong but I think it was
actually Corsair George that made that rating system oh really really it was
like his username's like Ballistic George or something and it has a Corsair
tag beside the username so
okay well in the meantime here I'll do the uh I'll do the Fallout um the
Fallout pre-order here we go what sorry
magnetic okay i don't I don't know uh anyway in the meantime let me do this so
we talked about the guy who sent oh crap what was it 11.2 pounds of bottle caps
to Bethesda um to get a copy of Fallout
4 which actually ended up costing in shipping about half as much as just a
pre-order the game would have cost um and it turns out that they were very
careful about the wording because I guarantee you Bethesda
does straight up not want you know
10,000 people shipping them 10 pounds of bottle caps like every person that works
at a bottling place would be able to get so many so fast um so they they very
carefully said so he sent 2,240 caps
because he was the first person to do this he would be receiving a copy of the
game in November so it was Corsair
George was it yeah this is Ballistic George official Corsair Ballistic George
tag and this is the one I was looking for i had no idea it was him i think Oh
send me the link send me the link okay so let's move on take a sec cuz my laptop is slow as hell but yeah let's
move on to the the Corsair the Corsair George rating system oh my goodness oh
apparently it's a George from Corsair
not the George from Corsair it's Ballistic George so it's not our George
Mis it is a different George see they
have the same problem as us they do where we have many Nicks we call ours
different things well they call them Ballistic George so that's like a But
then they call the other one just George right so we have Nick and then we have
Burkelnick
but we just call him Burkel ballistic Burkel
just start calling him Ballistic Nick we're just BB for short hey B uh okay so
let's go ahead and pull this up so PC
PCMRG so peasantry this port fails to
deliver a quality that is even comparable to consoles frame rate may be
capped at 30 FPS may not support 1080p or higher optimized poorly mod support
none uh mods may result in online bans
servers possibly weak unreliable servers and possible day one DLC with uh
glitches uh so it goes all the way up to
righteous this port exceeds the standard set by its console counterparts but does
not reach the full glory and potential of PC gaming um so 60 FPS capped
potentially limitless 1080p may include multimonitor support and then glorious
basically means this is as far as it goes there's no limit to frame rate 4K
or beyond resolution gloriously optimized complete support for mods
strong servers with dedicated or custom servers available uh no day one DLC or
DLC is free so yeah with nearly no
glitches with nearly no glitches so all the people that rated Skyrim is glorious
or wrong there's so many glitches in that game
there is so many did you just Did you just speak out against The Elder Scrolls
i don't think I've ever No whoa whoa whoa whoa no actually did you just say
no actually did you just say no hold on you have to ask Elder Scrolls Online
did you just speak out against Elder Scrolls single player
well your favorite games of all time i don't necessarily mind the glitches but
there are glitches i don't necessarily mind that spoken like a true fanboy the
glitches give it character there's certain games where glitchy crap is fun
like I was playing Super Mario Bros the other day i was playing Super Mario Bros
the other day and I used my cape and it completely glitched out and I just
laughed and keep playing some of them are okay if they're
like funny if your game um crashes to
desktop like Skyrim does a lot it's not actually funny and it's really dumb or
if your mouse clicks through the screen like a lot of Bethesda games do that's
not funny i'm going to let him keep going as long as uh he's there's where
the giant will hit you and you'll just go like infinitely upwards um you can
fall through the floor your your horse can just like fly at certain times or go
completely vertical ups um I'm going to run out here actually but I'm sure
there's more i'm sure the Twitch chat can tell me more i just find it funny
that there's an official PC Master Race rating system that takes one of the PC
Master Rac's favorite games and doesn't put it at the highest tier
that being said due to the full mod support you can fix a lot of those
glitches so that's where the glory comes but does
it count cuz there's full mod oh my god you're coming full i knew if I let you
talk about this long enough you were going to come full circle i don't know
but does it I'm I'm asking you guys should we straw pull this should we
straw pull this okay does the ability to fix a glitch through a mod rectify the
problem fixing glitches through
makes it okay what is that look at this ad on straw
pole it just popped up while I was creating my straw pole wow you know
what's funny is we actually have a fastest possible episode coming on ad
block very soon did I tell you that no
uh that's joke in the fire i uh I guess everyone watching already knows what it
is anyways yes and no well I I mean the thing about Fastest Possible is it's
very search optimized like if you search
that's a good point for a topic that there's a fastest possible episode for I
guarantee you it's going to be right up there in the search results and it's designed for that that's what that whole
channel is is like quick searchable stuff we want someone who's like in a
store just trying to figure something out really quickly to be able to actually figure it out really quickly
yeah but like what is this OLED thing
yeah why is this random BB box store employee telling me this is better and
just keeps on saying but it's better or not actually has more technology because
it has more technology so there's the straw pull fixing glitches through mods
makes it okay or doesn't make it okay
and and remember this is a very much a a glory of the PC master race thing okay
yeah cuz I'm I'm honestly just wondering how Skyrim actually fits in their taring
system because it's just it's weird so we've got 46% of you saying it doesn't
make it okay with 33% of you saying it
makes it okay and 21% of you on the
turnip bandwagon we should do a turnip shirt i'd wear that like I would
definitely wear that vote for turnip and then it should just have like a turnip
in a box should look like the vote for Pedro shirt
we should do a turnip shirt i should do a straw pull for that
there you go the most straw pulls
should we do a vote for turnip now this is a really this is an important straw
poll someone in Twitch chat was like "Ignore the actual question vote for
turnip." Yes oh awesome all right here we go here
we go here we go should we do a vote for
turnip shirt i mean I don't even I don't even know did you put tournament
yeah i I was wondering about that i was
like "This has to have the turnup." So troll bro i'm voting for turnip i'm
going to vote for Turnup too darn it
yes so we've got a a a whopping 5% of
you that say there should not be a vote for Turnip shirt who also are not voting
for Turnip so flashing gang signs yo
don't pull a neck so this guy okay here let's do let's do a quick uh let's do a
quick got a quick promo spot come on okay Burkel's going to Burkel's going to
join us for for a minute here is that box wet uh
Whoa what
do we have a leak the hell
ew feel like I should have just said nothing
i don't know if I can get on this couch with you guys ew what's back here oh
just mold glad we're moving okay so um upcoming
Channel Super Fun for those of you who are not subscribed to Channel Super Fun
what did we do today oh we went golfing i thought you were
I'm editing the other I'm editing the other one which I'm thinking about right
now oh yeah i said "Yeah what I'm doing
today is editing the other one prior to that one." So you guys I'm giving you
guys an assignment we have two Channel Super Fun videos coming up that are
going to be redonkulous if you know anyone who you
think would enjoy Channel Super Fun and if you're not subscribed already get
over there get subscribed cuz what okay so the one we did this morning uh we
played we played golf we played pitch and putt so uh okay but we used
equipment that we got at the dollar store and that's all I need to say about
that i can't believe we made it through and for the one from yesterday um do you
want to do you want to Yeah I think you should I think you should spoil it oh uh
well the whole explanation yeah yeah well no not the whole explanation but
just the All I can say is what I'm editing today is just basically
disgusting footage slow-mo footage of Lionus and Nick eating Jell-O till their
stomachs are at capacity and it's just it's painful to watch like I'm having a
hard time getting through it cuz I want to throw up now and I'm probably never
going to eat Jell-O again so if you guys liked Jell-O maybe never watch it just
forget it ever happened great sales pitch send it to your friends though
yeah yeah cuz I mean Jello is not that great for you anyway so you know if
you're trying to help someone get over their jello
addiction we have a jello addiction therapy video coming for you guys
hotline we'll give you No that might not work watching people eat copious amounts
of Jell-O is probably not going to help like that's like saying "Yeah if you
have someone who's addicted to alcohol we'll send you a video of people
drinking insane amounts of alcohol." What if it was a video well okay hold on
a second cuz some anti cuz some like
anti-smoking or anti-drug or Yeah yeah
like it'll like it'll show like like the it'll show like the the footage from
above the spinning blades of the fan and there's like the baby in the crib and
there's like all this smoke in the air it's just like that's what our jello
video is jello aholic if you eat jello
you could be like this guy you could have a jello overdose and that would be
good jel overdose i think that's my signal to leave
bye what are you doing right now oh my god
that was fantastic all
right what's our next topic what topic are we talking about no what have we
even done any topics we were talking about Batman okay uh so let's talk
Taylor Swift for a minute here so uh this was posted by It's Me Fuan on the
forum our original here uh I just want to shake it off want to shake it off
yeah you're really far over i know but like this corner is like this pillow's
wet oh that's your pillow though that's
your No I know but it was wet before I got in here oh that's
gross all right so Taylor Swift calls Apple Music free trial shocking
disappointing in open letter and I'm
going to say right now we've we've we've sort of said that we don't think Taylor
Swift has sort of um uh we don't think
she has a firm understanding of what exactly it is that's going on we've said
that before um happening when uh I think
she and some other people were speaking out about it she also said some other
really stupid thing i can't remember what it was i don't really pay attention to that stuff so Oh right yeah she
pulled all her music from Spotify or whatever because music shouldn't be ad
supported or something like that and anyway uh the point is this time I think
she's 100% right and there's one reason for this that a lot of the people who
are just kind of hating on Swift uh for
all of this are missing and that was that Apple was offering a threemon music
thank you for I just wanted to defend her somehow why
do you even She get she just gets hammered i got to I got to support the
other side okay so I'm saying she was right she had she has exceptional
musical talent
do you even listen to Taylor Swift she's a good person do you even listen to Taylor Swift no but people do right so
why would you even I was listening to the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 soundtrack
today i'm not a musical
authority it was awesome it was so cool
so the part that people are missing in Taylor's letter whether it's sincere or
not that she says it's not about me you know I can make it back in concert
tickets or whatever else it's about the little artists that maybe can't afford
to go three months giving away their music for free is the fact that Apple a
company with literally tens of billions
of dollars in the bank was simply giving
away the music to people for free during the trial and literally not paying the
artists for the plays yeah they were just giving it away and I guess hey we
just won't pay you they won't pay everything's good right yeah it's great
so what was it like a day after Swift's letter apple promptly went "Oh yep okay
looks like we weren't going to get away with that in in much more eloquent words
and uh went ahead and pulled it i think
that's great i think that calling out Apple on stuff like this uh makes a ton
of sense with that said I really I don't
some of some uh Brandon travels in some
She's not wrong at all she's 100% right but Brandon travels in some more
photography circles in terms of where he gets his news from and there are some
folks pointing out that um well uh you know there's you know
Taylor's not exactly always the most progressive either apparently
photographers who pay for the rights to photograph at her concerts uh each image
can only be used for editorial purposes once so they can't actually remonetize a
single image and not only that but they are not allowed to use the images in
their own portfolios um which to me is just kind of like if
you're going to be all about sort of you know digital digital rights and creator
rights I mean you should probably have a bit more of a progressive um policy for
the people who are working for essentially promoting you come on let's
be honest about all this um so yeah that's and oh that's in
so yeah so an industry photographer
released an open letter to Swift outlining this so they're forced to sign off the rights to their photos in
perpetuity to artists while only maintaining the ability to publish them
and be paid for them once uh stuff like this does exist in many industries it's
just interesting to see you know these
open letters yeah flying around back and forth a very different scenario it is a
different scenario extremely different scenario but if you paid for the rights
to be there and it's not cheap if you
paid for the rights to be there and photograph it should you I mean the portfolio on this kind of blows me away
the way that I and like I agree with the photographer people but I'm trying to
make an interesting conversation um the way that she is protesting this is by
taking her music away so if you want to protest that don't go take the
photos that's a potential argument i agree with the photo guys i'm just
saying that yep but like you you could try to protest this by just having none
of your dudes go to take photos but the thing is other people are going to do
that because it's Taylor Swift so Yep
i don't know oh well all right so what
do we got next ah Disney theme parks Ben
selfie stick the original poster was good bites and the original article here
is from the verge you got this uh you got this link here all right let's go
ahead and uh whip this link up selfie
sticks are no longer welcome at Disney theme parks says The Verge's headline
after doing its best to accommodate selfie sticks Disney bans them so I
think the first question here is why hasn't everyone banned selfie sticks
everyone everyone ever municipalities government countries why haven't
countries banned selfie sticks they're obviously hazardous um so I got one uh
for free i didn't buy it i got one for free someone gave it to me i got one too
i tried to plug it into my phone to use it and it just changes the volume or it
zooms i'm like
could work what so yeah that didn't get much use
you know what's really funny i have used my selfie stick but you're talking
against what i have used my selfie stick however how much I I what I used it for
was GoPro footage okay that kind of makes sense but is GoPro footage of
yourself still a selfie if it's on a GoPro well is a video It was for a video
I was making is a video a selfie
it's drop day right
i think for a video to be selfie it would have to be one of those ones where like someone's pivoting with it which
you could do with the selfie stick and then your face stays like in the same
part of the frame all the time you know those kind of shots so then it could be a video selfie i think so i don't know
okay well you know what just Google selfie the Twitch chat is going to
resolve the crap out of this for us the Twitch chat knows more than Okay you
guys are just all voting for turnip turnip
oh for crying out loud we can't get We're not going to get a straight answer out of you guys for the rest of the show
are we no no no turnup is a straight answer turnip is a straight answer so
we've got only 16% of you saying yes a
video is still a selfie so I guess while
I have used my selfie stick I haven't
technically according to 85% of our audience used it to take a selfie you
count the turnup ones as No yeah yeah that's how I'm counting them turnup's a
wild card man you can just decide what turnum turnup counts as uh yes turnip so
visitors who carry one they'll be enforcing this at the gate will have two
choices leave it at the entrance and pick it up on your way out or don't
bring it to begin with those aren't choices um they have one choice it goes
into effect at both Disney World and Disney Land on Tuesday and expands to
Hong Kong and Paris on July the 1st so
they're spreading the word through announcements at their hotels and audio messages in the parking lots they
initially tried to accommodate them by forbidding them on rides but allowing
them elsewhere on park grounds but people snuck them in people continued to
take them on rides which is like a whole other level of stupid it's like you have
a selfie stick that's dumb you use your
selfie stick to take selfies of yourself that's like super lame you endanger the
lives of other people with your stupid selfie
stick now you need like you need to sit
down and and you're potentially ruining some kid's day you need to sit down and
get a stern talking to um so yeah this week a roller coaster at
Disneyland was put out a commission for an hour because a guest uh because of a
guest using a selfie stick at the ride's highest point so uh yeah so some museums
and the Canis Film Festival have already banned the accessory
progressive Disney and honestly like they're kind of annoying i went hiking
not that long ago in Taiwan and people just in Taiwan
i know but and I get it but people who didn't have a selfie stick yeah I know
but people take up so much more space when they're doing it and you're like you're trying to be courteous and all
this kind of stuff and when you see like the family that pulls someone aside and tries to get the photo taken like sure
but when it's someone like every 5t like with a freaking selfie stick like god
you're taking up so much space the trail's really really small already like
a Yeah a lot of the trail is literally too short for me like there's only if I
stuck my arms out it's going to be over the cliff like and then they're taking selfies you can't walk past them
ridiculous apparently Coke's giving them away in the
UK oh that's a shame all right so let's
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so Nick Nick is going to get like a
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crippling crippling injury a heart attack i'm so done with you check your
check the last email I just sent to you oh what oh jeez do I even want to know
yeah yeah uh okay uh blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah do I have to uh no what i don't think so last email I
just sent you you sent me an email yeah yeah oh oh oh oh no way those look like
the All right okay okay so I think it's
going to be the last straw poll of the day and I can trust you guys i can trust
you guys on this straw we have done no tech news today yeah we did we have done
like four stories we have done a low amount of tech news today what is this
show even i don't know wang show every
week fridays 400 p.m pst 4:30 p.m pst
and not always PST could be PDT yeah
just PT yeah Pacific part time part time
you're You're going to be part-time at this rate
semi you've you've made your Yeah
I'm just going to slash your pay my My hour availability will be like the
availability of Fury X's oo oh
okay so I'm going to show you guys option one and option two for vote for
turnip shirts and I'm going to download these so I don't show you guys please
don't do that all my emails who did this anyway me oh you did it really nice well
they're not like crazy good i think they're crazy good i think we should go
with the this style i think I actually didn't know how I was going to like the
second one and I kind of like the second one better oh don't influence don't
influence the viewers okay so we want you guys to vote for option one or
option two but first I'm going to show you the options this is I zoomed in too
much this is vote for turnip option one
with the turnip okay and this is um a
look at my Dropbox uh progress bar uh
that's a a W show thumbnail okay give me a second just give me a second
oh my god that is professionalism that is my pictures folder maybe you should
host your pictures on Squarespace and this is the I don't even want to hear
about anything from you to do with Squarespace for the rest of the show
this is the regular vote for turnup shirt so option one is with the picture
of the turnup option two is just with
the text i'm going to go ahead i'm going to post that straw poll right now this
will influence the turnup shirt whichever one wins okay you guys but on
that straw poll will there be a vote for turnup option no should I should there
be no no no we need a decision we need a
decision we need a decisive decision well cuz both of these are voting for
turn rather than going rather than going option one option two you should say
with turnip picture without turnip picture it's done
to be fair Nick was very right
wow it's a dead heat look at that maybe
because they don't know what the options are so option one is with the picture of
a turnip option two is without the
turnip option one costs us more cuz there's more ink colors can we make a a
war a war of the turnips
what the hell are you talking about like a turnup fight you are not having a good
day
okay no but you could have like two two
waring Teespring campaigns and then you
see who wins that couldn't work damn
cuz like with Kickstarter you have to like put your money on your vote yes but
like if we could make it so that everyone had to vote and then you just get whatever one wins wow that would be
like a whole new shirt buying paradigm that absolutely no one would
like you just buy whatever shirt everyone decides they're buying it's
like tea fury but you don't get to pick it's like mashdrop plus teespring plus
like plus like the haunted house where you put your hand into the bucket of
like spaghetti and like grapes and then you pull out a handful and eat it that's
what that idea is i get your idea and I like it but I
think it might be ripping off TF Fury huh tf Fury no cuz No they always have
like two and they It's like buy Yeah no but my idea is you don't get the one
that you necessarily voted for you get whatever one wins you're the worst
person ever
why are Why did you even wake up this morning wow i meant why did you get out
of bed not why did you wake up wow yeah i wish you were sleeping
forever wow what a way to break up with someone
right
this is the worst show ever no it's it's not it's There's like 7,200 people
watching it's not you i just wish you were permanently sleeping i bet you why
did you get out of bed i don't wish you I don't wish you were dead it's still
okay if you consume oxygen but I never want you I never want you to talk or
move i hate this
show okay so it looks like the one with
the picture of the turnup one and I guess we should probably do some tech
news cuz we have like 20 minutes left in
the show
we're sleeping forever mattress
okay okay i like Burkel's version i am so thirsty right now i've been like
talking and laughing too much it's illegal to rip CDs if you live in the UK
yeah so this was posted on the forum by a Ming the original artic article here
is from f.org this is the stupidest thing ever because
ripping CDs is not sharing CDs
so I don't understand what the issue here with
ripping CDs is um yeah sure thank you
yeah I I could use a drink thank you very much um
I think I think his desire for my permanent sleep means that I'm not
getting a drink but it's okay i understand um
so court strikes down law allowing users
to rip their own CDs i don't have much to say about this there their there
possible like ways to get around this is to supply evidence um that the copyright
owners suffer no or minimal harm from uh personal copying or impose a new tax on
users to compensate the industry for that harm
i mean we already have that tax in Canada so there's that
it's really funny though because the tax is on if I recall correctly blank media
and then I think MP3 players
so like the two deadest categories ever
peace media industry hope you enjoyed that levy while it lasted i was in um
you know how I made the video about the Taipei Tech Mall
I haven't watched it yet i feel bad i should watch it it's a weird It's not a
normal video so it may be interesting um beside the brand new shiny fancy tech
mall there's the old building which is the old tech mall which isn't shiny at
all it is very unshiny but there's tons of tech i think there's like 11 floors
or something and they're all just tiny little stores that are jammed completely
full of just stuff one of them was a
blank media store they sold DVDs and CDs
and there was people shopping really do
they not have USB drives i walked by and was just like "What?" You know what's
really funny is uh a friend of mine in high school and uh I'm dating myself a
little bit here um a friend of mine in high school Wow
i think it was a trip to Hong Kong okay
or Taiwan i'm not sure which one so I don't want to don't quote me on it but
this is like back when I was in like grade eight so USB thumb drives were
like the the [ __ ] okay like it was a
16meg and like he got a 32meg because he
like splurged on himself but still that
was like a really nice gift because all of a sudden I had a USB drive and like
everyone else was slumbing it with floppy drives floppy discs straight up
okay so um so I'm kind of wondering how
is it that we've come full circle here
there was there was flash media stores there was there was a store that um I
know I sold only flash stuff they sold flash drives they sold uh M.2 things
they sold SSDs right so like a memory store only flash stuff no hard drives no
hard drives wow yeah just flash what does that say
hard drive stores there was everything there was like five different places
that sold like basically the exact same thing on a floor it was ridiculous um
anyways that's really all we probably have to say about that I'm assuming so
the court accepted that the EU copyright directive does not require that sellers
must be able to extract the every last gram of value from the copyright so the
personal copying exception may have resulted in loss of sales um for example
a consumer may have refrained from buying an extra copy of their favorite
CD for their car uh so the government
failed to provide any evidence that these lost sales were zero or minimal um
you should be able to refrain from buying extra copy of CD for your car you
absolutely should that's so dumb if you're buying something that you're
licensing rather than something that you're owning then you should straight
up have a personal license to it i mean that's the way that anything sensible
actually works i mean Office 365 is my
license for the computer no that's the direction the world's going the licenses
for me personally and the five devices that I want to use it on freaking
awesome that is the right direction um
so yeah this this is I buy certain soundtracks like I'm I'm a huge fan of
Super Giant Games and I really like their music department like the music
for Bastion is fantastic i listen to that soundtrack while I run a lot uh the
music for Transistor was also very good i think Bastion was better but
regardless I bought the Transistor soundtrack you actually found the disc for it
that's because I ripped it and then completely forgot about it since the
game came out because why would I care about the disc whatever i don't know who
cares um so this was posted by Twisted
Dictator um original article here is from
pcgamer.com and it's Assassin's Creed
news so this is either this is either Ubisoft kind of
you know pulling their heads out of their butts and uh you know really
committing to PC gamers that they've uh they're taking it seriously now and
they're like ready to ready to do things properly or this is going to have to
Okay if Assassin's Creed Syndicate is a mess on the PC do we do Keep on Digging
V2 do we do another keep on digging
shirt keep on keeping on digging or something
like that keep on Oh my god you could make it like the keep on keeping on and
then just put the digging in the middle of the text yes like those yeah anyways
that would be an awesome That would be a really cool shirt actually um so
creative director tells PC Gamer at E3
"We've got an internal team that's dedicated to the PC version and one of
the things I'm happy about is that we're really taking our time with the PC
version to really make it shine we want the game to really work well on the PC
on day one which is why it's not the same launch date as the Xbox One and PS4
versions it will come a bit later in the fall but I think it will be worth the
wait." Haven't they said this before so they're taking a page out of Rockstar's
book where Okay yes pc gamers yeah but
GTA V came out pretty okay but it also took a really long time so I think
they're finding a Well that's exactly it so they're taking a page out of Rockstars book people were upset at all
the delays but you look at the amount of upset people are over Arkham Knight
versus the amount of upset people are over GTA 5 where on Arkham Knight it
translates into bad reviews and people not buying the game and with GTA 5 oops
I almost just flipped the bird at the audience whereas GTA 5 it translates
into people buying copious numbers of copies jack from NCX was telling me he
literally owns two copies of the game one for the Xbox and one on PC so that
extra features they built into PC can be enjoyed again and one really smart thing
that they did was your online character could transfer so you could bring them
from the console version to the PC version so there's people that were like over level 100 on day one PC which was a
little insane but it's not really that big of a deal in that game so who cares
so um so yeah so that's basically all there is to it so it's going to come on
the to the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 on October 23rd and um they're saying a bit
later in the fall so that means we're not going to be looking at 2017 for a
release i mean given that Assassin's Creed is on a yearly release cadence
it's not like they can wait that much longer like they can't be launching you
know Assassin's Creed uh you know Amazonia or whatever sort of local they
end up going to next amazonia would go on the Xbox and then Yeah that would
actually be awesome jungle Assassinations could be pretty badass so
cool i really want that game now um maybe not made by Ubisoft but I really
want that game oh come on okay I want to say two things about this real quick
first off I believe they said exactly this crap before we're focusing on the
PC version it'll be better it'll be good it's coming out speaking of which our
next news topics are Microsoft with the exact same crap anyways but I'll give
them the benefit of the doubt i'll try this one i'm not going to pre-order any of that crap but I'll try it cuz we're
probably going to bench it anyways yeah you're going to wait for our bench comment yeah yeah and then if it's good
I will not finish it and go back and try the other ones and any of them that are
playable I'll try to play through and catch playable
wow gatorade you are drinking it
needs like an H on here it's blue it
works for I'm surprised you drink Gatorade i would think that has too much
sugar in it for you it does but there was two two things of liquid you took
one of them i'm really thirsty it's crazy hot i thought this was for me i
thought that was like your Gatorade cuz I don't have Gatorade he handed him that
where did the Gatorade come from it's not mine i think it's Snicks oh he gave
you his Gatorade i guess he That's why I said thanks he doesn't hate you that much he doesn't want me to permanently
sleep anymore yeah that's nice or maybe he does kind of fill me with sugar it's
just not horrible all right Microsoft this was posted by
Jaws on the forum just made millions off
of Windows XP software that is literally
over 10 years old with that said it's
not like um it's not like the way that a company sometimes makes money off of
10year-old software where they actually don't have to do any additional work and
it's just money in the bank uh this is a contract between the US Navy and
Microsoft to continue to provide security updates and patches for Windows
XP for the
100,000 workstations that they're still busy transitioning um to newer operating
systems so I guess for the US Navy you know given how many workstations they
have uh going on that are relying on Windows XP Office 2003 Exchange 2003 and
Windows Server 2003 um the uh the
contract which could extend up to 2017 could be worth the 30.8 million to not
have to have the software that runs on those PCs cuz you could even look at
that and go really 30.8 million like they could just buy a bunch of like
badass like Digital Storm gaming rigs
for 30.8 million running Windows 8 which
they could upgrade to Windows 10 and then not have to worry about this for a
while that would be so weird just like you walk into a Navy thing and it's like
digital storm water cooling it's like okay i don't know i'd expect much more
like industrial style stuff but the issue is the software that won't run on
newer versions of Windows that would have to be rewritten and that they're
kind of still working on well that's why like people was it the Omron video
they're like "Oh l Windows XP." And I'm like "Yeah never connects to the
internet does the same thing all the time it's probably okay." Like I don't
know anything that doesn't connect to the internet could be running Windows 95
for all that matters like it it never and you don't plug anything into it
like whatever it adds a keyboard and mouse and then you do stuff whatever
doesn't matter Windows 10 Insider this
has been huge news this week this was posted by
Kodiak and the article here is from Ars
Technica microsoft clarification kind of clears up the
Windows 10 license confusion because this has been some confusing stuff going
on right now so Microsoft can't make up their mind about what's going on with
Windows 10 licensing so first the rumor was that that people running pirated
editions would get Windows 10 and then they were going to get upgraded to
Windows 10 but it was going to be with the same restrictions as the pirated
edition or something whatever whatever that means which is okay and then it was
uh insiders were going to get free copies of Windows 10 and then it was
insiders are going to get um upgrade
copies or something like that so they would have to install the wait something
okay people who have Windows 7 and Windows 8 they get an upgrade copy they'd have to reinstall the old one and
then install again over top of it the whole thing's been confusing but the big
one has been that Microsoft said they were going to give insiders so the folks
that have been essentially uh beta testing the software a legit full copy
of Windows 10 for nothing and they have clarified it now the requirement is that
whether you're on the fast track for new builds or the slower track for new
builds you have to stay in the insider
program in order to get the free ongoing
legitimate product so to opt out of the
insider pro uh program you will need a valid Windows 7 8 or 10 license because
without a suitable license the operating system will eventually expire you know
one thing I've been wondering about with the pirate license thing this isn't 100% on topic but if you have you know how
you can like there's there's there's there's ways to get your computer to
make it think that it's activated for a little while and then a lot of times Windows will figure it out and nuke it
and then you go unactivated or whatever if you are kind of like fakeo activated
are you going to get your key overwritten and then be permanently activated on Windows 10 i don't know if
it's very clear right now there's still a few things that are up in the air but
the point basically was hey um the
insider program is looking pretty cool if you don't mind beta testing software
for Microsoft and the fact that this is on an ongoing basis really points to a
really different uh philosophy for
Microsoft Windows i like it with it
sounds like much more rapid releases and much smaller feature
upgrades i mean that that is really cool really exciting and thank you to all the
insiders who are uh who are who are testing all this stuff and giving
feedback so that we can get you know better versions of Windows as time goes
on i'm liking this whole I'm liking this whole new Microsoft thing that's going
on i wasn't sure that a CEO change was
going to make a difference and it really looks like a lot of times it doesn't but
a lot of times it really does nothing yeah it's just like it's like an on the
surface sort of change whereas this looks like a thing but they hired him
from internal and they hired him from like the cloud team or something didn't
they i think so so they they hired a fairly technical dude to kind of take
over that spot liking the whole liking the whole change going on over there all
right now we should do we should stick on the
Microsoft news bandwagon because this is actually what I thought you were going
to bring up um after the Ubisoft thing because it
would have made a ton of sense um to go right after the Ubisoft thing i don't
know if you even knew this was in the dock though so uh Xbox Phil Spencer I
want to give people a chance i called this out in the topics at the thing that
we when we say things that Who posted this one twisted dictator this was Twist
the Dictator again yeah and this is very similar to the Assassin's Creed one that
is not it though wow that's really funny i uh Okay I got to show you guys this so
I clicked the link I thought and Oh wait
oh I clicked the wrong link anyway I clicked the link to the Assassin's Creed
one by accident so uh so it's not that
one anyways he he he states that he wants Xbox to be the best TV gaming
platform but also give the users a choice to play games when they're not
around the TV and he says "As a gamer I
play games on PC i want to be able to play the games where I want to play them
i want to give people a choice." Um and basically he goes through saying that if
if you want to play where does he call out titles here he calls out titles
somewhere here we go so if I if I want to play Killer Instinct if I want to
play Gear if I want to play Fable I should be able to do that and I
shouldn't have to force people to buy something by um excluding their
choice xbox says a lot of crap and then
never does anything about it but aren't they bringing Gears to PC
um I think so i don't think they're I
don't think they're doing the entire back catalog so the assumption would be that you've already played all the Gears
games on Xbox or else you're going to get dumped into the story in the middle
of whatever's happening in Gears i don't play Gears cuz it's not on PC yeah i
don't know i know there's some really jacked dudes and they fight aliens i
know that there's a gun and they have a saw on the bottom yeah that's cool yeah
um and like a chainsaw well I think there are chest high walls if yatsi is
to be believed yes so
there's blood on the chainsaws that are on the gun right but that's only if you
kill dudes with it or you or you like slip and cut yourself and then you hide
in a corner and you heal i would assume that there's gears but the blood doesn't
dry ah yes yeah yeah okay anyways I I
think they have actually been stepping in this direction so this is a whole
bunch of words that technically have no actionable items behind them and no
promises that they're doing anything at all so it could mean literally nothing
okay cool but I'm hoping that it kind of does and especially with the Xbox app on
PC there is a ton of potential here because if they want to start doing
crazy amounts of crossplatform stuff that'd be cool speaking of crossplatform
um I've been doing a little bit of work on the Shield Android TV thing you know
what's really cool there's um War Thunder
on Android TV yeah I knew that and it's not just Android TV that you play on
it's crossplatform so I can play with my buddy on PC while I'm on my Android TV
on Android TV that's very cool y there isn't like I've been messing around with
uh Android TV and so so the stores are
weird i finally realized that like if you really want to use it you should
really use the NVIDIA store because the Google Play Store for Android TV is crap
but the NVIDIA store is actually really good they actually do the Shield store or the Shield Hub they do a really good
job of curating everything and it's like "Yeah here's the stuff that should be
relevant to you if you own a Shield." The Android one it's so fragmented like
I was trying to find games with Nick and we'd be like "Oh okay here's a list of
games." There'd be like five and I'm like "Wow this is all the games they
have on this platform what?" And then like half an hour later we're in some
other menu with a whole bunch of them but they're all unsorted and there's no ratings i'm like "What?"
But then yeah the Shield Hub had ratings and more stuff so it's no wonder Google
is like buddy buddy with NVIDIA um like
NVIDIA for NVIDIA is investing really
heavily in Android as a gaming platform you can really see it things like the
fact that my Shield Portable is probably the oldest device that I own that is
still getting Android updates um NVIDIA's doing a really good job of
trying to support these devices i sure wish instead of that they would bring us
Shield Portable 2 instead of things that hook up to your TV and things that are a
tablet well not instead of in addition to I mean those are good things too i
just I really want a new Shield Portable the Tiger X1 i hope I
hope if there's something that is viable I guess I would understand but I really
want them to just stop calling their new device just the
Shield like give it give it a full name
so that when something else new comes out that you're also going to call the
Shield it's not just called the Shield again and then that old one gets a new
name cuz isn't the Shield console actually just called the Shield i think
it's called the Shield Android TV which is the stupidest thing ever it's a
really long name but at least at least it's self-explanatory yeah yeah i Yeah
it's it's really it's really confusing i I wish Yeah i Yeah i don't know what the
naming so like you can tell they're kind of making this up as they go yeah and
they're just kind of like trying things throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks i mean the thing that
they're the thing that they've been really clear about from the beginning is
that the software is important
so they're really focused on making sure game stream rocks they're really focused
on making sure the Shield Hub is like Shield Hub has been completely
redesigned at least once since uh since I've been using it yeah um very good but
the hardware they're just I think they're just kind of trying stuff like
next we might see a shield backpack i I I don't know well I was kind of think
when when I said like I don't know what devices you would come out with the first thing that popped in my head was a
drone the battle drones that we've been talking about oh that would be so if you
had Android drones that you could fight virtually
like the virtual fighting drones already kind of exist but if it was like a
proper good game made for it that could be kind of cool like shield drones
shield drones yeah NVIDIA drones my drone would be shielded straight up you
couldn't take it down well what are we talking about considering they'd
probably be the same so would mine and then that would be a boring fight cuz
two paladins with divine shield is really boring for about six or seven
seconds all right so there's a rumor that Apple will be moving
away from the home button yeah so full
full screen screens yep they are apparently developing a chip that will
allow that functionality that functionality to be
integrated into the touch screen and based on that they've already got force
force touch on the Apple Watch which by the way is horrible compared to force
touch on the MacBook yeah it's like here okay I'll I'll I'll show you because
it's like it's just dumb okay um Oops
okay so force touch so like press and then like press harder you notice how
fast the screen turns off isn't that hilarious it's like we don't have very
good battery life screen off screen off screen off as quickly as possible always
so go ahead force touch it like just press and then hold no no the
screen okay now you've got Siri open
press harder that's weird yeah so it's
just a vibe on your wrist whereas did you ever use the MacBook's touchpad no
oh okay okay well then you don't even know what you're comparing i have no idea what you're talking so it sounds
cool you press you press harder on the trackpad and then haptic feedback makes
it feel like there's two layers of click when actually on the MacBook there is no
downward movement at all okay can you
Okay so let's move on to our next news topic anyway I think force touch on a
touchcreen is gonna be super dumb but but I also got sold on it on the MacBook
so there you go uh this is from Kit Guru originally posted by Buu PCI Express
4.0 uh the new data rates and new
connector to be finalized by
2017 so we're going to get a doubling to
16 giga transfers per second uh of the
available uh communication bandwidth so
that is something along the lines of oh balls what is it i think it's like 2
gigabytes per second per lane or something like that hold on hold on yeah
um yeah a 1x interconnect will transfer
up to 2 gigabytes per second when you compare that to the 250 megabytes per
second of Gen One wow now I believe optics are going to be
involved um Oh really not in not uh so
not in this one necessarily but a fifth generation is going to almost definitely
rely on optical rather than copper links but this one is still copper you're
still going to be able to have risers but they won't be as long and it's going
to be a new connector so this is a tricky thing backwards compatibility for
the first time is not going to be a given
so PCI Express Gen 3 cards will work in
a Gen 4 slot but a PCI Express Gen 4
card will not work in your old Gen 3 motherboard so what's going to be really
interesting to see here is if AMD once again doesn't have the R&D to develop
the latest PCI Express standard we could
see a pretty devastating impact on their
CPU sales at least for for upgraders because I don't know if a lot
of you even realize this there is not an AMD chipset that supports PCI Express
3.0 But they're like their graphics cards do but they literally have that
only for the benefit of people plugging them into Intel they're talking about making that new CPU though right have
they said what socket it's on probably new socket i'm sure they know
about this oh that's 2017 yeah yeah pci Express 4.0 is 2017 so um Zen should be
coming next year so hopefully AMD is laying the
groundwork now to support PCI Express 4 cuz not being able to get a new graphics
card in one year not being able to get a top-of-the-line
new graphics card in one year would be pretty rough it's uh yeah the the 20
Well remember too the spec will be finalized by 2017 uh so it won't really
be out on consumer boards for quite a while so it'll be it's going to be a
while but you know if it was 2017 I
don't know that I would necessarily invest in like an Uber rig if PCI
Express 4.0 is around the corner yeah uh with that said I mean just cuz you want
to be able to put new cards into it we could see yet again we could see it
happen again where top tier cards could be released for both interfaces we've
seen this before in the AGP to PCI Express transition era you could buy an
X800 XT uh AGP or an X800 or X850 or
like whatever it was there were PCI Express and AGP versions of like similar
power graphics cards at the time so I
don't know and it probably won't matter i don't know how it'll be handled
graphics cards probably still won't be too fast by the way yeah like I don't
think you'll need the extra bandwidth it's just Well I mean it depends what we're doing with graphics cards like if
they find a way you know maybe HBM memory and like you know your new VR
setup are going to have some like crazy fast interconnect or something like you
know imagine this for a second what if you had like a hyper high resolution
display for VR that required literally a
PCI Express link to your computer like what if you couldn't run over display
port think about that for a second
like what if you had to have like like like PCI Express with like repeaters in
order to get enough distance to like But what if you could play at like 16k or
32k or something crazy like that there's got to be a a visual fidelity limit or
whatever yeah but I don't think we're anywhere near it no I Is 8K the limit
you think i have no idea 4k isn't the limit we know that much no idea i think
Carmarmac wants 4K because that's what there is not because that's the limit
yeah but there's the other problem is there's other stuff that needs to be increased too yes there's a lot of stuff
so like we won't even know what the limit is because it say if we're there
and there's other problems you won't necessarily know yep you have to leave
it to other things so speaking of no clue what it's going to be leaving to do
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