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modern CPUs are usually pretty reliable so it came as a shock to people when

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their shiny new Intel Core I9 processor started crashing for reasons unknown and

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was even more shocking when they went online and found that there's been a

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great deal of frustration about instability issues with Intel's 13th and

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14th gen core I 9s along with some core i7s and even lower tier chips that has

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gotten so bad that motherboard manufacturers were compelled to push out

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BIOS updates to to help fix the problem but who's to blame for these issues is

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Intel pushing out shoddy chips is another component manufacturer at fault

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was it Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the Candlestick well

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the story is actually pretty complicated and has its roots in competition between

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motherboard manufacturers however that doesn't mean that Intel shouldn't be

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shouldering some of the blame as well let's go back though compared to a

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couple of decades ago these days there isn't much to separate one motherboard

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from another in terms of raw performance with manufacturers instead focusing more

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on the feature set that a motherboard offers but that doesn't mean that the

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motherboard companies aren't trying to convince people that their products are

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faster than the other guys even if it's only by a few percentage points and this

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is where the trouble begins you see Intel tells the motherboard companies

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not to enable CPU overclocking out of the box users can of course overclock

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their chips later if they want to but when you turn your PC on for the first

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time you expect the things to be running at stock right well the motherboard

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companies took no overclocking mostly to mean don't mess with the base clock and

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the multiplier which are the main settings used to derive the clock speed

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and they didn't mess with those but unfortunately they took liberties with

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other settings specifically motherboard manufacturers were setting the load

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lines incorrectly and if you don't know what load lines do they basically help

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keep the CPU stable when it's dealing with a significant load doing this had

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the intended effect of the CPU running cooler than it otherwise would have been

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and when the system saw the CPU was cool

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it would boost the CPU's speed which the mother manufacturers could possibly use

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to say that their board was delivering better performance but the load line

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configuration meant that they couldn't ensure stability at those boosted speeds

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meanwhile the CPU cores would boost too much resulting in instability and the

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load lines being out of whack meant that the CPU voltages would then over boost

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which could damage the CPU permanently this was all compounded by some bioses

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not lowering the clock speeds until the CPU temperature hit around 100° C which

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is much warmer than the usual threshold

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of course the motherboard companies were hoping the chips would be fine but

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unfortunately reports of instability popped up from users running cinebench

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Unreal Engine based and similar games and decompression software higher end

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chips were hit harder as their high voltages speeds and temperatures caused

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greater instability and even chip degradation in some cases resulting in

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the need for an RMA to Intel investigations like the one undertaken

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by the developers of the game Warframe showed that the problems were overwhelmingly on core i9s and some core

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i7s now we did say that motherboard manufacturers tried to address these

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issues unfortunately their initial fixes

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didn't do much good or even made the situation worse and we'll tell you why

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news and people's CPUs broke BIOS updates started popping up that were

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described as Intel baseline or Intel failsafe except this didn't actually

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mean Intel's intended default settings for example Asus came out with a BIOS

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that just jammed More Voltage through the chip to try to stabilize it even

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though Intel Baseline would imply that it uses more conservative settings this

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did help with stability for many users but it also had the unint side effect of

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making their chips degrade faster and then once that happens you need even

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more voltage to keep them stable and so on and so forth until the point of no

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return but while motherboard companies stepped Over The Line in trying to

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achieve performance advantages and in trying to fix this some of the blame

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does lie with Intel for starters one

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reason motherboard manufacturers felt that they were able to mess with the

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overclock settings the way they did and why later BIOS fixes didn't completely

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work is because Intel's guidance about prop voltages was actually quite vague

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including for how long the load lines could be set Intel also identified a bug

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in an Intel feature called ETB and

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admitted that there was an issue with the CPUs themselves that resulted in

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incorrect voltage requests to the processor that affected all 13th and

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14th gen chips that were rated at 65 watts and higher and although they

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didn't give any additional details it sounds like this may have been a

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contributing factor to motherboards delivering too many volts to the CPU

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course whoever owns Which percentage of the blame though the truth is Intel's

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reputation has been tarnished to the point where one game developer has

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announced they're migrating all of their servers to AMD CPUs and while it isn't

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clear exactly why the ETB bug is present

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it appears that toward the end of 2023 Intel was already trying to get

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motherboard companies to rush out BIOS updates right around the time this

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problem started to rear its ugly head which may have been the origin of the

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ETB problem but take that with a grain of salt the good news at least is that

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Intel has now released recommendations for the correct settings to be applied

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to fix these instability problems and as of the time we wrote this the major

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motherboard manufacturers have put these defaults into updated bioses as well as

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a micro code patch for the ETV B bug for boards with 600 and 700 series chipsets

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so please go download the latest BIOS for your motherboard as soon as possible

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like right now even though Intel has said the fix for the root issue

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contributing to excessive voltage isn't coming until the middle of August the

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current BIOS updates should make your system more stable and at least prevent

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damage to your CPU in the meantime if

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for some reason you're still having stability issues and you don't have time

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for system downtime to RMA your CPU to Intel you can try turning your CPU's

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clock speed down by about 300 MHz by adjusting the multiplier in your BIOS

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hopefully that'll at least keep you limping along in the meantime the one

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positive that we hope comes out of all of this is Intel hopefully keeping a

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closer eye on exactly how motherboard manufacturers build their products and

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configure them before they leave the factory because it appears there's been

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not enough oversight I understand it I mean with so many Boards out there it's

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harder for Intel than say NVIDIA who has a more limited number of addin board

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partner graphics cards to examine but team blue obviously is going to just

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have to bite the bullet here no matter how many bunder boards are out there

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because another hit to their reputation like this is not going to feel good by

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the way there is another Wrinkle in all of this Intel has said that some reports

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of instability can be traced back to Intel themselves to a manufacturing

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error that involved oxidation of some early 13th gen chips so if you bought

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your chip in early 2023 or prior that

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could be part of your problem and seeing as it's a physical issue with the chip

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that wouldn't be fixed with a micro code update so you will need to R Intel have

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you had any problems with Intel's latest chips comment down below and if you want

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