{"video_id":"swm7n88QmLA","title":"Intel's CPU Crashes Explained","channel":"Techquickie","show":"Techquickie","published_at":"2025-05-04T14:58:16Z","duration_s":490,"segments":[{"start_s":0.12,"end_s":7.6,"text":"modern CPUs are usually pretty reliable so it came as a shock to people when","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.96,"end_s":12.04,"text":"their shiny new Intel Core I9 processor started crashing for reasons unknown and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.44,"end_s":16.24,"text":"was even more shocking when they went online and found that there's been a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.08,"end_s":21.72,"text":"great deal of frustration about instability issues with Intel's 13th and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.92,"end_s":26.64,"text":"14th gen core I 9s along with some core i7s and even lower tier chips that has","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":24.68,"end_s":31.439,"text":"gotten so bad that motherboard manufacturers 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there is another Wrinkle in all of this Intel has said that some reports","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":460.599,"end_s":467.12,"text":"of instability can be traced back to Intel themselves to a manufacturing","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":465.039,"end_s":472.639,"text":"error that involved oxidation of some early 13th gen chips so if you bought","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":469.639,"end_s":474.479,"text":"your chip in early 2023 or prior that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":472.639,"end_s":478.36,"text":"could be part of your problem and seeing as it's a physical issue with the chip","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":476.44,"end_s":483.479,"text":"that wouldn't be fixed with a micro code update so you will need to R Intel have","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":481.879,"end_s":487.28,"text":"you had any problems with Intel's latest chips comment down below and if you 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mean that Intel shouldn't be shouldering some of the blame as well let's go back though compared to a couple of decades ago these days there isn't much to separate one motherboard from another in terms of raw performance with manufacturers instead focusing more on the feature set that a motherboard offers but that doesn't mean that the motherboard companies aren't trying to convince people that their products are faster than the other guys even if it's only by a few percentage points and this is where the trouble begins you see Intel tells the motherboard companies not to enable CPU overclocking out of the box users can of course overclock their chips later if they want to but when you turn your PC on for the first time you expect the things to be running at stock right well the motherboard companies took no overclocking mostly to mean don't mess with the base clock and the multiplier which are the main settings used to derive the clock speed and they didn't mess with those but unfortunately they took liberties with other settings specifically motherboard manufacturers were setting the load lines incorrectly and if you don't know what load lines do they basically help keep the CPU stable when it's dealing with a significant load doing this had the intended effect of the CPU running cooler than it otherwise would have been and when the system saw the CPU was cool it would boost the CPU's speed which the mother manufacturers could possibly use to say that their board was delivering better performance but the load line configuration meant that they couldn't ensure stability at those boosted speeds meanwhile the CPU cores would boost too much resulting in instability and the load lines being out of whack meant that the CPU voltages would then over boost which could damage the CPU permanently this was all compounded by some bioses not lowering the clock speeds until the CPU temperature hit around 100° C which is much warmer than the usual threshold of course the motherboard companies were hoping the chips would be fine but unfortunately reports of instability popped up from users running cinebench Unreal Engine based and similar games and decompression software higher end chips were hit harder as their high voltages speeds and temperatures caused greater instability and even chip degradation in some cases resulting in the need for an RMA to Intel investigations like the one undertaken by the developers of the game Warframe showed that the problems were overwhelmingly on core i9s and some core i7s now we did say that motherboard manufacturers tried to address these issues unfortunately their initial fixes didn't do much good or even made the situation worse and we'll tell you why and how Intel themselves share the blame here right after we thank mend mend is an email marketing platform that provides business owners with a suite of tools to improve customer relationships through personalized Outreach you can send professionall looking emails and craft visually stunning landing pages with moen's campaign editor they also integrate a whole SLE of popular e-commerce platforms allowing businesses to streamline all their marketing efforts so what are you waiting for get a moo on it and follow the link in the video description to try mend for free for 30 days and save $10 % after the news and people's CPUs broke BIOS updates started popping up that were described as Intel baseline or Intel failsafe except this didn't actually mean Intel's intended default settings for example Asus came out with a BIOS that just jammed More Voltage through the chip to try to stabilize it even though Intel Baseline would imply that it uses more conservative settings this did help with stability for many users but it also had the unint side effect of making their chips degrade faster and then once that happens you need even more voltage to keep them stable and so on and so forth until the point of no return but while motherboard companies stepped Over The Line in trying to achieve performance advantages and in trying to fix this some of the blame does lie with Intel for starters one reason motherboard manufacturers felt that they were able to mess with the overclock settings the way they did and why later BIOS fixes didn't completely work is because Intel's guidance about prop voltages was actually quite vague including for how long the load lines could be set Intel also identified a bug in an Intel feature called ETB and admitted that there was an issue with the CPUs themselves that resulted in incorrect voltage requests to the processor that affected all 13th and 14th gen chips that were rated at 65 watts and higher and although they didn't give any additional details it sounds like this may have been a contributing factor to motherboards delivering too many volts to the CPU course whoever owns Which percentage of the blame though the truth is Intel's reputation has been tarnished to the point where one game developer has announced they're migrating all of their servers to AMD CPUs and while it isn't clear exactly why the ETB bug is present it appears that toward the end of 2023 Intel was already trying to get motherboard companies to rush out BIOS updates right around the time this problem started to rear its ugly head which may have been the origin of the ETB problem but take that with a grain of salt the good news at least is that Intel has now released recommendations for the correct settings to be applied to fix these instability problems and as of the time we wrote this the major motherboard manufacturers have put these defaults into updated bioses as well as a micro code patch for the ETV B bug for boards with 600 and 700 series chipsets so please go download the latest BIOS for your motherboard as soon as possible like right now even though Intel has said the fix for the root issue contributing to excessive voltage isn't coming until the middle of August the current BIOS updates should make your system more stable and at least prevent damage to your CPU in the meantime if for some reason you're still having stability issues and you don't have time for system downtime to RMA your CPU to Intel you can try turning your CPU's clock speed down by about 300 MHz by adjusting the multiplier in your BIOS hopefully that'll at least keep you limping along in the meantime the one positive that we hope comes out of all of this is Intel hopefully keeping a closer eye on exactly how motherboard manufacturers build their products and configure them before they leave the factory because it appears there's been not enough oversight I understand it I mean with so many Boards out there it's harder for Intel than say NVIDIA who has a more limited number of addin board partner graphics cards to examine but team blue obviously is going to just have to bite the bullet here no matter how many bunder boards are out there because another hit to their reputation like this is not going to feel good by the way there is another Wrinkle in all of this Intel has said that some reports of instability can be traced back to Intel themselves to a manufacturing error that involved oxidation of some early 13th gen chips so if you bought your chip in early 2023 or prior that could be part of your problem and seeing as it's a physical issue with the chip that wouldn't be fixed with a micro code update so you will need to R Intel have you had any problems with Intel's latest chips comment down below and if you want to find out why electronics die in general go watch this video next"}