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And welcome to the live show tonight, guys. I am the only one here and uh

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well, I'm not the only one here. I'm one of two people here, but I'm the only one

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who is who is physically able to sit and

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do a live stream tonight. Slick's not feeling well. He's actually been sick

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for the last week while he's been working on getting the forum up and

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running. So the forum is working on a

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local machine right now. Um he's played around with we're using vbolitin connect

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5. So you know it's beta right now.

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There's not a lot of support for it. There's some some tricky stuff. And uh

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so he's still getting some bugs figured out. We still got to figure out how to

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actually get it launched, whether we're paying for hosting or whether we're going to see if we can host it somewhere

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else for now. Um, so we've got we've got all of that to figure out and then uh

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we're pretty much ready to go. One thing I can promise is it will be up

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before CES because the forum is our

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brilliant plan to have uh to have all of

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the content that we're producing, all of the videos that we're making while we're

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at the show be sort of accompanied by little articles and maybe some pictures

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to go along with it and all that kind of stuff. I mean, we're going to have a whole team there. It'll be me, Slick,

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Diesel, and um an assistant to sort of

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like carry bags and stuff. Actually, you know what? Here, why don't we start with

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this? I'm going to check this out, guys. I'll be back in one moment. And Slick

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can't entertain you while I'm gone,

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unfortunately. Check this out. So, I did an unboxing of my Pelican case that I

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that I purchased for myself for the FS700. Also, the lights are a little

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bright. Hold on. Let me just play with these a little bit. Let's dim these

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babies. All right. What's the point of

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getting baller lights if you can't, you know, turn them

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down. There we go. Let's see if that helps. Whoa. Yeah, that was not qu Okay.

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See, the skin tones are better, but that was not not quite the desired effect

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there. Let's try uh let's try cranking these back up. I did turn off a couple

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of the other lights.

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Okay, you know what? O, whatever. Okay, good enough.

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Ah, Pelican case. So, if you guys saw my

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unboxing, um, I got this for the FS700 camera, which is not the one that I'm

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using for a lot of people, a lot of people complain about the image quality

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of the $8,000 camera, but what they don't realize is we don't use the $8,000

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camera for everything. In fact, the $8,000 camera is intended only for

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certain projects. So, check this out, guys. Pelican cases are freaking

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awesome. All these little foamy pieces here actually can come out in little

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rectangular prisms, to use the correct word, or little squares, if I was going

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to be more colloquial. Come out and they're about this long. There's two

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full layers. And with it, you can pack all your sweet gear. So, I got my road

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mic, which I've been informed is not pronounced road because it's like a Danish word or something, but whatever.

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Uh, so I got my road mic, got my FS700, got spot for my

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lens, got spots for maybe a couple more lenses over here. So, this is what is

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going to keep the camera safe, and I'm super super thrilled with

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it. Seems like the kind of thing that uh

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nothing can go wrong if you throw your camera in a Pelican. It's even

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waterproof for like 30 minutes or something along those lines. So, that's

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pretty cool. Uh, right. So, we're going to have a whole crew there. So, I'm

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hoping to really sort of change the way that Lionus Tech Tips presents video.

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So, not just uploading to YouTube, but I also want there to be a little bit of

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accompanying text. Just sort of maybe some editorial that's not necessarily in

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the video itself. Maybe some some, you know, pictures of close-ups or things

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that we perhaps missed while we were filming the video. That's the kind of

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thing that's really easy for us to be like, "Oh crap." You know, take a couple pictures, make sure that goes up with

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the article. So, I'd love to get your feedback. Do you guys want to see a few

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different things? Do you want to see like um sort I mean okay when I read a

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review basically I read introduction conclusion and then I see if it won any

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kind of award. So that's the concept. Do you guys want to see that? Just a little

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text blurb then a video little text blurb and then like you know maybe some

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kind of a rating in terms of value performance or or whatever other metrics

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that you want to see. So, let's do some Twitter because I don't have a ton of

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topics prepared and I especially don't have anyone to sit and entertain the

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audience while I'm sort of going and doing other things. So, let's have some

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interaction. Slick is sick, Zoomass, and I'm very sorry for that. For those of

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you who have been telling me to kick him off the show, then you'll be pleased

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that he's not here tonight. But that's very few of you. I think for the most

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part, you guys enjoy Slick's

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contributions. All right. Having

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examined less than an hour. Oh, I'm sorry you can't make it, Edwin, but good

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luck. Woke up to watch from Iceland. Awesome. Gotta love Pelican. Yes. Been

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waiting six hours. See, I often see this. People are

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sitting in Twitch like waiting for the live stream to start, like hours and

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hours before it starts. Guys, it's at 900 p.m. my time every week. Although, I

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will be changing the time soon. I've had a lot of people ask me about the times

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for the live live show. Am I planning to change it? Yes, I'm planning to change

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it. Um, sometime in the new year, it will change. Good question. Andrew R

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asks, "Is there a difference between an 8pin EPS connector and an 8 pin PCI

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Express connector? Are they interchangeable?" I would love to

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address this by grabbing

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myself. Not by grabbing myself, by grabbing a connector to show you guys

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exactly what the difference is between them. So, let me just see if I can get

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this test bench detachated here. Yeah,

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there's a PCIe. Yeah, good. There's an EPS. So

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EPS8 pin is often also referred to as just CPU 8 pin or even ATX8 pin which

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isn't technically correct but I mean you can't stop people from using terminology

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that they're more that they're more familiar with when it was first introduced uh in the P4 era. It was

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called the uh the P4 connector as well. So that's another really common

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terminology for it. So I'm going to show you guys exactly what the difference is

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between these connectors. I hope the autofocus is okay on this camera. So,

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uh, this guy right here, that is an 8pin

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CPU. So, an 8 pin is just an evolution

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of a four pin. And the four pin, uh,

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there we go, is two 12vt wires, which are colorcoded, see, hold on, I'm going

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to move that. Two 12vt wires, which are colorcoded yellow or on some power

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supplies, they've removed the color coding just in favor of aesthetics. And

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then two ground wires. So, those go out to your power supply. Those provide

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power just to your CPU. That's all they

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do. They do not go anywhere else. They do not share because this standard was

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introduced when Intel was really pushing

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the envelope in terms of how much heat output a CPU

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uh was. Sorry, I'm having a really hard time putting this back. Yeah. How much

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heat output CPUs were producing as well as how much power they were consuming.

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So all of a sudden we needed this dedicated connector near the CPU socket

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itself that ran power just to the CPU. PCI Express is a different standard. So

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you can see the six pin PCIe which was the first connector we had for uh PCI

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Express cards is three 12 volts and

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three grounds. Okay. The Apin standard

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doesn't actually add another circuit loop to it. It only adds two more ground

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connectors. So, we are actually still relying, let's see if I can get it to

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focus. See, two more ground connectors. We are actually still relying on those

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three yellow ones there to provide one

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side. And then we've got five grounds to carry. Like, I don't actually quite

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understand how two more ground pins changes how much power, how much current

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it can carry, but apparently somehow it does. So anyway, the point is no,

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they're not the same because this has four 12 volts and four grounds and this

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has three 12 volts and five grounds. They're also keyed differently. So what

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I mean when I say keying is the shape of

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the Here. Hold on. I'm going to see if I can uh see if I can get you guys a good

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look at this. This is really important when you're putting together your computer because if you do this wrong,

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it'll cause big problems for you. There we go. So, the actual shape of the

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plastic housings around the pins are

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different. And you can also see that the eight pin Oh, I'm probably talking

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really loud. You can see that the eight pin here has a bridge between these two

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that actually prevents it from being inserted into an 8 pin on the uh

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motherboard. So, there you go. That is the difference. Good question between

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EPS 8 pin and PCI Express 8 pin. I'm

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going to jump up to the top just to make sure that uh there aren't any audio

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issues or anything that I'm not aware of. Okay. I heard that the Noctua NF12s

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are only good for push and not for pull. No, that's not true at all. A fan with

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good static pressure has good static pressure. That's it. That means that

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it's good at scooping air from the one side of it and it's good at pushing air

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to the other side of it. What that person might have been thinking of is

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that the F12s are optimized for directed

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air flow, much like Silverstone Air Penetrator 121s. So, if you're using

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them as a case fan, say for example, in the front of your case, and you want to

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be cooling that video card that's like way over there, an F12 will be very

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effective for pushing air towards that video card because it creates like a

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funnel of air that moves in one direction without just being randomly

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dispersed. So, they're excellent for pushing air, but that doesn't change the

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fact that they're just a well optimized high-pressure fan, and they're great for

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push or pull if you're using them on a heat sink or on a

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radiator. Uh, oh, will you be doing more

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audio related unboxings, something like HD800s or some speakers? I've done the

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HD800s, believe it or not. Um, honestly,

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the sort of price to performance that

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comes along with those super premium audio products, I think it's wasted on

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me a little bit. I mean, I was listening to Flax and I we had

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HD555s, HD 595s, HD800's, as well as

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some gaming headsets. And Slick and I were using the ASUS Essence One, which

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is not a super high-end DACK or amp by any stretch of the imagination. I mean,

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those will go into tens of thousands of dollars, guys. So, yes, it's like a $500

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audio product, but it's not really

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qualified to drive something like HD800's. Um, and I found that once you

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get like HD555 to HD595 is noticeable,

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but that was only about a $100 price delta back when those were current

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products, where something like an HD800 costs several times what an HD595 was.

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However, from a 555 to a 595 felt like

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about the same kind of a jump as from a 595 to an 800. Hard to say whether

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that's just us or whether that's correct. Um because we didn't really

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have the kind of amp we'd need to drive it. But and neither of us really have

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like golden ears. But um I mean I appreciate good audio, but something

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like an 800 is pretty pretty overkill for me. I also found them a little bit

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um almost too big on my head. So, that's

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just a minor complaint, I guess. But if I was paying, you know, that much for

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headphones, couple grand for headphones, I'd want them to feel like awesome,

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comfortable. Uh, what camera am I using for the live stream? Please tweet back

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because I've got to go now. Test

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tester. All right, fine. Why not? X A

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10. Oh, right. That won't work. Oh, you

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know what? Sorry, man. That's not going to work because I have my uh I have my

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number my number signs bound to my different camera stuff. So, yeah, that

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won't work. All right. Opinions on OCZT power supplies. Have you had much

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experience with them? Yeah, I've used one on a test bench for a while. Uh nothing bad to say. I mean, they're an

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80 plus bronze fully modular power supply. They're a good deal. I'm here,

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says Aaron. Hello, Aaron. Lionus, have you heard about the AMD 7870 XT?

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No. What are your thoughts on the Digital Storm Bolt, especially compared

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to the Falcon Northwest Tiki? Uh, neither of them seems particularly

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relevant because these days I really can't think of a good reason to buy a

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boutique machine. Um, what are you I

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guess here's the question. You We have to do like a PC buyer guide

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at some point, I think. you know, just like an ultimate bible on buying a PC

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and sort of teach people how to do the analysis of what they're paying for with

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someone like a a boutique builder like a Falcon Northwest. Okay. If you're going

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to pay them to paint your case and you really like the design and you're going

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to do that stuff, okay, okay, you want

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to drop a couple G's on a case, you know what? Fine. Fine. That's fine. Now, my

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TJ07 at this point, and those of you who are going to tell me to change it, I'm

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not changing it, was a present from my wife, and it's my favorite case ever. I

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don't want a different case. Here, right there, for those of you telling me, "Get

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a TJ11."

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That is a TJ11. I don't care. I'm not

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using it. I'm using the TJ07. Um, so anyway, yeah, if you really like their

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case and you really really want them to paint it, you love their design, then

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that's cool. That's fine. But if you're just getting them to do like a normal

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computer, why what do they do that and I

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mean, yeah, I I work at NCIX and that's all fine, so obviously I'm a little

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biased, but what do they do that someone like NCIX doesn't for 50 bucks and why

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are they charging you an extra $500 to $800 for it? I mean, even someone like

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Main Gear, who I'd hardly consider to be boutique, like they're they're a system

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integrator and they build like great gaming systems and all that stuff, but I

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mean, they're not, you know, running with guys like, you know, formerly

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Voodoo or or Falcon. Like, let's just be

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honest with ourselves. Um, even Main Gear, I think back when we launched one

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of our PC systems, I compared the price for the exact same spec just for LS and

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I think it was about a $600, $700 difference. I'm like, where is this

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money going? I don't understand. Building a computer is not rocket science. Um, I've even had people I mean

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this same thing. I've had people ask me, "Linus, will you build my computer for

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me?" And I told the guy something ridiculous like uh $500 or $300 or

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something for me to build it. And uh he's like, "Okay." I'm like, "What?

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What? Why? I've done guides. I've shown

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you guys how to build your own computers. Um, I mean here, just for the

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sake of making sure that I'm not, you know, completely, you know, missing the point

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of all this, I'll I'll look up these computers, but I suspect they're just

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sort of like kind of neat, keen, small form

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factor machines or something like that.

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Uh, Falcon uses uh often

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custom Silverstone cases, so it's

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probably like a customized TJO or SGO3

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or whatever it's called. I don't remember. Something 03 FTO3 or something

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like that. This is just my guess. Oh no. What is this thing? 4 in wide. Something

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something. The world's most powerful micro tower. Yeah, it's one of the best

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boutique computers on the market today. Here, you guys can uh you guys can see

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what I'm seeing here if you want. We are researching before we before we go on a

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tirade about boutique builders and how it's pointless. So, what can you put in

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here? GTX. What? GeForce GTX 6 series

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graphics card.

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Uh, okay. What What GeForce GTX 6 series

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graphics card? Build your Tiki. Doesn't say. My

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guess would be they could probably cram a 670 in there. I mean, I guess I still

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just don't see the point. Build yourself an FTO3

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mini and paint

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it. I can't even find. Oh, here we go. Configure a tiki. Let's shop together,

00:16:44.880 --> 00:16:53.000
shall we? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Configure a

00:16:50.880 --> 00:16:57.600
falcon. Sure. I met the owner of Falcon last

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year, actually. Super nice guy, in case anyone

00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:08.240
cares. There we go. World's most powerful micro tower. Configure a tiki.

00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:12.480
So, at least these guys have a custom chassis going for them, which a lot of

00:17:09.760 --> 00:17:16.880
those builder guys don't. What do we want for this thing? 1,700 bucks. And

00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:21.199
we've got, what do we have so far? We have a chassis. We have a chassis logo

00:17:19.280 --> 00:17:25.600
insert. We have a chassis base. We have a 450 watt SFX power supply. So, that's

00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:28.919
that Silverstone power supply. So, you want to price this out. Go ahead. Price

00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:35.200
it out. Silverstone power supply. PAZ77i. Oh, okay. Well, we need a 3570K

00:17:32.320 --> 00:17:39.679
at the very least. How do I change it? Yeah. Add component. There we go. 56

00:17:37.080 --> 00:17:43.520
bucks. Wow. Their builder has gotten a lot more advanced since the last time I

00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:49.039
looked at it. Okay, they got a liquid cooler in there. They got some 2x4 gig.

00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:55.520
How much do they want? Seriously, they want $78. Okay, this is where See, this

00:17:51.679 --> 00:17:55.520
is where you run into trouble.

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ncix.com. Okay, let's find out what a 2 by8 gig memory kit actually costs. So,

00:18:01.840 --> 00:18:06.160
what is this? 1866 memory. Not that it

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matters. It really doesn't make that much difference to performance. But just for lols. Oh no, I can't type in

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numbers. Oh wait, I can use this one.

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1866. Uh, and that was a

00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:28.960
60. Wrong scene. There we go. Sorry

00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:35.640
guys. It's really inconvenient having my number keys bound this way. So a 16 gig

00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:41.360
1866 kit costs what? I don't know, 97

00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:43.200
bucks, 95 bucks, 120 bucks. So, well,

00:18:41.360 --> 00:18:47.280
okay. Okay, that's not so bad. That's not as bad as I

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thought. Who knows? I might be able Oh, GTX 650. I might be a believer by the

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end of this. $300 additional for a 670. Okay, that

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doesn't look that good.

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And of course, I hate doing this.

00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:13.039
670. Yeah. Okay. So, you can get a 670 for like

00:19:10.840 --> 00:19:18.640
$289.99. So, there's a bit of margin there. Sound cards probably on board.

00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:21.280
Yeah. Networking's on board. So, I guess

00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:26.720
guys, it comes down to personal choice. Would I pay more for something like a

00:19:24.360 --> 00:19:31.919
Tiki? Probably not. I mean, there's shuttles out there. There's FTO3 Mini

00:19:29.919 --> 00:19:35.840
out there. There's a lot of different solutions out there. Something like a

00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:40.880
Bit Phoenix Prodigy isn't as small, but has a lot of cool factor going for it as

00:19:37.919 --> 00:19:45.360
well. But I'm not the intended audience. So, if you have an appreciation for

00:19:43.120 --> 00:19:49.600
guys, make no mistake, the amount of work and the amount of money that it

00:19:47.679 --> 00:19:53.440
takes to produce a custom chassis as a system builder, if you have an

00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:58.799
appreciation for that and it's like not easy, then go for it. you know, you want

00:19:55.840 --> 00:20:02.320
something that's a prestige piece, then go for it. Otherwise, personally, I'd

00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:05.600
build my own machine. Um, as for the digital storm bolt, I don't know.

00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:10.520
Depends how bored you guys are of this topic, but I could probably at least

00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:15.240
find out what it is. Digital. Hate this keyboard. Well, I

00:20:13.280 --> 00:20:21.080
don't hate this keyboard. It's just not

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ideal. Digital storm bolt.

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Enter. Yeah, I meant digital stormbbolt. Got my got my typo going on

00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:36.640
here. Okay, so that is what the heck is this

00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.919
thing? Okay, that's kind of neat machine as

00:20:42.520 --> 00:20:47.840
well. I don't know. I don't know. What do you want me to

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say? What kind of video card do they have in here? as long as they've got

00:20:52.240 --> 00:21:00.159
options to put decent video cards in. I mean, that's something else to consider, guys, too. Is if you configure your own

00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:05.360
Oh, they've got a 650 Ti in there. So, yeah, that's not bad. What kind of

00:21:02.159 --> 00:21:05.360
upgrade options do they

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have? Where are the upgrade options? I don't know. Okay, not going

00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:18.120
to worry about this too much anymore because I'm bored.

00:21:14.600 --> 00:21:21.280
Um, yeah, if you like it, buy it, I

00:21:18.120 --> 00:21:23.200
guess. Moving right along. Oh, I think

00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:25.440
I've got my uh camera pointed a little high

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here. Yeah, I'm impressed actually. Both of those machines look really cool. Do

00:21:31.600 --> 00:21:37.480
you wish Canada and the US had better travel relations on border checks like

00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:43.320
the EU? Um, no. I don't know. Doesn't seem like

00:21:40.320 --> 00:21:46.520
that big of a deal to show a

00:21:43.320 --> 00:21:50.480
passport. Is this moving? I think it's

00:21:46.520 --> 00:21:52.080
moving. No wonder I'm having trouble.

00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:56.000
All right. Is it true that the most expensive graphics card is not the best

00:21:53.679 --> 00:21:59.760
graphics card? Good question. It is true that the most expensive graphics

00:21:57.679 --> 00:22:05.360
solution is not necessarily the best graphics solution. GTX 690 quad SLI is

00:22:03.360 --> 00:22:11.280
the most expensive graphics card solution uh before you start getting

00:22:07.679 --> 00:22:13.520
into sort of quad 680s. Um, however, I

00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:18.799
would say that defining something as best is not as simple as does it perform

00:22:16.159 --> 00:22:22.480
the best because it will perform the best in many scenarios, but there will

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:27.280
be ones where its performance consistency is not very good because

00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:32.640
quad SLI doesn't scale the same way that a single card or dual SLI or even triple

00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:34.960
SLI does. So, if I were to look at it

00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:40.799
from a perspective of, okay, am I getting the best gaming solution there,

00:22:37.520 --> 00:22:43.840
gaming solution by getting uh quad 680s

00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:46.640
or dual 690s? I would go, well, hard to

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say because it's going to get hot. It's going to potentially get loud,

00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:53.520
especially if you have fans sandwiched up against each other. Uh, it's not

00:22:51.600 --> 00:22:57.360
necessarily going to scale in every game or every scenario. And you might even

00:22:55.520 --> 00:23:02.799
run into weird bugs where you got to turn your setting, turn your SLI off in

00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:05.919
order to even get your machine to run a particular game, especially weird

00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:10.720
obscure stuff that doesn't really get the same kind of QA put into it as other

00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:14.720
things. So, I would say instead of buying four 680s, which will give you

00:23:12.320 --> 00:23:21.120
the highest FPS, I would do something like buy two 680s and then like a wicked

00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:23.440
sound card and an awesome like, I don't

00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:26.480
know, something else RAID card and throw some SSDs on it. I mean, there's lots of

00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:32.799
better things you can spend your budget on than three or four graphics cards.

00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:34.799
So, there you have it. My take on that

00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:38.320
question. Does the speed of the pump affect the performance of a water

00:23:36.320 --> 00:23:44.080
cooling loop? Uh, yes, but not as much as most people seem to think. Uh it

00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:47.919
does yeah it does affect the flow rate having the pump spin faster and the

00:23:45.679 --> 00:23:53.039
water moves faster but once you're past a certain point uh the returns that you

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:58.159
get for speeding up the water diminish very very very sharply. I mean in a

00:23:55.760 --> 00:24:04.400
custom loop running dual graphics cards and a CPU, two radiators using a D5. So

00:24:02.159 --> 00:24:09.320
with it cranked to five I'm within one degree of turning it all the way down to

00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:11.760
one. And I would say for the noise

00:24:09.320 --> 00:24:15.760
difference, I'll take that. I'll throw away that one degree. No problem.

00:24:14.159 --> 00:24:20.240
Lionus, I'm the guy who wanted the autograph with the Razer Kraken Pros.

00:24:17.679 --> 00:24:25.120
Hi, Liam. That is a great profile picture you've got yourself there. My

00:24:22.320 --> 00:24:31.600
friend bought an alien wear a laptop for about 2,000. It was

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:33.840
3,000. It's 16 gigs fast. We shouldn't

00:24:31.600 --> 00:24:38.960
laugh at them. We should help them. Any comments on the 840 Pro SSD? No unboxing

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.400
um right now. I'm hoping to get my hands on one soon. Benchmarks wise, there's

00:24:41.120 --> 00:24:45.840
lots of benchmarks out there. It's basically the ruler of the roost. It's

00:24:44.159 --> 00:24:50.039
right up there with the OCZ Vector. Those two would be kind of the the kings

00:24:47.919 --> 00:24:53.960
of the castle right now. So that uh that's pretty much my take on

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:59.120
it on it. Best

00:24:56.120 --> 00:25:01.039
nonommon Cherry MX switch. I don't know.

00:24:59.120 --> 00:25:04.799
That's a very strange question, Bob. I don't understand why you'd ask that

00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:11.039
question. Um I actually haven't used clears. I haven't used uh anything other

00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:13.159
than blue, brown, red, black. So, sorry.

00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:17.679
I guess I can't really answer that one. Talk about the Sandia cooler.

00:25:16.159 --> 00:25:20.960
Sandia cooler. So, this is something that people are pretty excited about

00:25:19.679 --> 00:25:26.520
right about now. So, I'm going to go ahead and show those of you who aren't

00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:30.080
familiar with it. Sandia

00:25:26.520 --> 00:25:31.840
cooler. There we go. Here we go. This is

00:25:30.080 --> 00:25:37.520
what this is all about. So, it's a cooler that instead of spinning a fan on

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:44.320
top of a heat sink, takes a heat sink and spins it around like a fan. So,

00:25:41.760 --> 00:25:47.360
promises 30 times better CPU cooling, blah blah blah. They're making a lot of

00:25:45.520 --> 00:25:54.240
claims about it. Apparently, the way that the top heatsink spins is by having

00:25:50.320 --> 00:25:56.320
a like a micro micro thin layer, like a

00:25:54.240 --> 00:26:01.840
cushion of air between this bottom layer here that interfac

00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:04.000
uh interfaces directly with the CPU and

00:26:01.840 --> 00:26:08.960
then this spinning part on top that still allows optimal heat transfer as if

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:15.679
it wasn't even there. And then because of the way the blades are optimized,

00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:17.080
they throw air out. I believe it spins

00:26:15.679 --> 00:26:21.919
this way. So, it chucks air out of the heat

00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:26.880
sink, making it very, very, very efficient or something. Um, I've had a

00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:30.640
lot of people ask me about what I think about it. There you go. Sandia cooler.

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:33.360
Hold on, let me turn that volume down. Oh, yeah. This should be

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:42.720
okay. Oh, it's a long video. Boo. Long

00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:46.080
video. Boo. Where is it running?

00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.039
show us up close. Okay, whatever. Forget

00:26:46.080 --> 00:26:53.120
that video. Um, so people have asked me about it a lot.

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:56.880
I know that there's one PC heatsink guy that's licensed it already, so we're

00:26:54.559 --> 00:27:02.520
going to see a product based on this, but I guess Yeah, here we go. It spins

00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:10.320
at just 2,000 RPM. Only 2,000 RPM, you say? Why,

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:14.240
that'll be intolerably loud. 2,000 RPM

00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:16.240
isn't quiet. I mean, it's possible that

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:19.919
because of the way the air is moving, there's going to be less of a whoo to

00:27:17.679 --> 00:27:24.240
it, but I don't think I've heard a 2,000 RPM motor that doesn't have a

00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:27.200
significant wind to it. So, yeah, if they can and I mean that and I mean,

00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:31.679
we're talking a different kind of motor when you're spinning around a piece of metal. So, it'll have to actually have

00:27:30.080 --> 00:27:37.640
some torque to it versus if you're turning plastic. So, I'm expecting there

00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:40.159
to be a mechanical like a wind to it.

00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:43.760
Um, so yeah, it can cool better all at once. It's not going to cool better than

00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:48.880
water. I can tell you that now. And I'm already looking at it going, "What do you mean 30 times better than air?" How

00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:52.799
do you define 30 times better? I mean, we've already got air cooling heat sinks

00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:56.559
that'll remove 130 watts of heat from a Are you going to You're telling me we're

00:27:54.399 --> 00:28:01.600
going to remove 4,000 watts of heat from a CPU

00:27:58.120 --> 00:28:04.080
socket? So, yeah, I will believe it when

00:28:01.600 --> 00:28:09.600
I see it. That is my approach to the Sandia cooler. Great. Looks good. Good.

00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:13.679
Good in theory. Um, but let's see how the actual products do because we've

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:19.840
seen this time and time again. Remember Lucid Logic's Hydra? How we were gonna

00:28:16.600 --> 00:28:21.440
SLI GeForce cards with Radeon cards and

00:28:19.840 --> 00:28:26.720
we were going to throw five cards in one system and they were all going to work together and it was going to be like

00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:28.480
magic. Holy crap. Yeah, that that didn't

00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:34.000
work. 3D Mark was I think the only application that it ever properly worked

00:28:30.399 --> 00:28:36.000
in. So, see how it goes. First time

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:39.760
watching live. I'm glad to hear that you are tuned in. I can see that the Linus

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:42.960
Tech Tips community will be awesome just by being in the Twitch chat. That is

00:28:41.679 --> 00:28:47.679
actually one of the reasons we fasttracked having a forum at all because the Twitch chat is so active and

00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:53.120
there's such good conversation going on in there. Uh normal unboxings should be

00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:56.880
normal. I don't know. I I don't remember what you're commenting about, Ryan. I'm

00:28:54.760 --> 00:29:00.039
sorry. Happy to moderate the stream chat. Been here for five hours chatting

00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:04.159
with cool peeps. Absolutely. Stream countdown on the

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:08.640
forum. Yep. Yeah, that's not a bad It's not a bad idea at all. I noticed you

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:13.159
guys are doing awesome on the whole liking videos and encouraging other

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:18.320
people to like videos. Keep it up. Um the I think it makes a difference. I

00:29:16.159 --> 00:29:23.200
think it'll take a bit of a longer term sort of uh I think it'll take a bit of a

00:29:21.679 --> 00:29:26.559
longer term approach to find out how well it's working. I noticed that

00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:30.960
there's still a lot of videos that some of you are selectively liking or not

00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:34.960
liking. I noticed uh uh the one with the cat and the baby did like way better

00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:39.679
than uh than one of the other ones that I did that was actually a lot more work.

00:29:36.399 --> 00:29:42.039
The heat sink roundup using my new uh my

00:29:39.679 --> 00:29:46.880
new test bench here. So yeah, I mean keep it up. Do your best

00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:52.240
with it, guys. I think it helps. So there you go. For some reason it's black

00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:54.720
for me the live stream flash player. I

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:58.559
don't know. How do I cheer up my friend who got a new graphics card but found

00:29:56.399 --> 00:30:00.960
out he has a 280 watt power supply. I don't know. It is Christmas. You could

00:29:59.760 --> 00:30:03.200
get him a new power supply and it doesn't

00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:10.240
suck. All right. Totally stopped scripting to watch. Excellent. And I

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:15.600
can't figure out how to move this around. All right. Let's do some more

00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:17.200
Q&A. See what Oh my goodness. 254 new

00:30:15.600 --> 00:30:20.640
interactions. Good morning from Denmark indeed. What do you think of the Cooler

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.840
Master Quickfire TK keyboard with the arrow keys and number pad integrated? I

00:30:22.080 --> 00:30:27.679
actually did an unboxing of this one uh last week, two weeks ago. Really like

00:30:26.159 --> 00:30:31.840
it. Very cool layout for those of you who haven't seen it. I'll go grab it cuz

00:30:29.360 --> 00:30:31.840
it's right

00:30:34.360 --> 00:30:39.279
here. Here we go. Oh, the this was

00:30:37.919 --> 00:30:44.799
sitting with it. These are the Twinkies that uh Slick and I ate last week as

00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:49.919
part of our live stream because I had a viewer send those in. So, we got a key

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:54.399
remover. got some covering on it. This is a

00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.840
really unique keyboard because the first time I showed it to Slick, he wasn't

00:30:55.919 --> 00:31:02.640
familiar with the product already and he was like, "Oh yeah, it's a 10 keyless."

00:30:59.919 --> 00:31:06.960
It is not a 10 keyless. See, it actually has a full number pad and then you just

00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:11.039
switch modes. So there's number keys here. You got like your delete key, your

00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:15.039
insert, your page up, your page down, and all that stuff here. So you actually

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:19.440
switch between number pad and then extension of normal keyboard. So, it

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:23.360
ends up being a super compact, super awesome, super brightly back lit

00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:26.320
mechanical keyboard. This is the TK Blue. So, this has a blue backlight and

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:31.919
blue switches, but it's available with brown or red switches as well in white

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:35.600
or red back lights. Um, I think it's awesome. I think it's outstanding. I

00:31:33.760 --> 00:31:40.080
don't know if I would use it myself because I'm not space constrained, but

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:43.279
it's especially useful for people who don't have a lot of room at their

00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.120
computer and they want to still have a number pad because I don't know about

00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:51.039
you guys, but I use a number pad every day. Every single day, I cannot live

00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:57.279
without a number pad on my keyboard. Uh unless I had like a little standalone

00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.279
keyboard and

00:31:57.320 --> 00:32:04.000
um where was I going with that? Number pads are good, right? But because I'm

00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.000
not space constrained, then I'll just assume have a normal keyboard with a

00:32:05.679 --> 00:32:12.720
number pad. So, I think I'll stick with my Zyo 60.

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:18.720
But if you want to save some room on your desk, the TK is a perfect option in

00:32:16.159 --> 00:32:23.519
my opinion because you still get your number pad, which matters to me, as you

00:32:21.360 --> 00:32:30.240
guys may or may not have noticed. Watching from Norway.

00:32:26.360 --> 00:32:31.760
Yes. Uh, hey Lionus. My friend's PC is

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.240
turning on but not powering the monitor and half of the fans don't work. It's a

00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:39.919
fresh build. What do uh could be video card, could be memory. Basically, what

00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:45.360
you've got there is a no post situation. So, if you search on YouTube for no post

00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:46.880
diagnosis, I have a video all about it.

00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:50.640
First time watching in the UK, but my dad woke me up by snoring trying to type

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:54.200
quietly on Cherry MX Blues. Good luck with that, sir. Is Corsair Link worth

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:57.919
it? Um, I was talking to the Russian about

00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:02.080
it and they were doing some work with Corsair Link. I actually have a Corsair

00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:06.480
link around here somewhere. I haven't tried the actual link module. Uh the

00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:11.600
Corsair link software, just the software component that you use with something

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:14.399
like an H80i or an H100i is pretty neat.

00:33:11.600 --> 00:33:17.679
It's fairly robust. It's I mean, bear in mind, guys, this is something that's

00:33:15.760 --> 00:33:20.159
been in uh

00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:27.840
in production software, whatever. They've been working on it for over two

00:33:25.120 --> 00:33:32.080
years back when Coollet was still doing their own thing. Uh they were working on

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.919
I think they were calling it something else, but they showed this off at CES

00:33:33.840 --> 00:33:40.240
two years ago in their booth and then when Corsair went exclusive with the

00:33:38.080 --> 00:33:42.960
Coollet coolers and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. They had some

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:46.080
arrangement. So now Corsair I think inherited a lot of that work that Koolit

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:51.480
had already done. So this has been a in development. That's what I was thinking of. Has been in development for years.

00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:55.519
So, it's very mature compared to um well, a lot of the other solutions

00:33:53.760 --> 00:34:01.279
out there, even something like an MCU T balancer, there's a lot more that goes

00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:03.440
into things that seem simple like fan

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.360
control than you would imagine because there's all these different like even

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:11.919
something like something like PWM. There's all these different

00:34:09.399 --> 00:34:16.560
implementations of PWM, which is basically instead of undervolting the

00:34:14.240 --> 00:34:20.879
fan, running it at 12 volts, but doing it in bursts so that it doesn't spin as

00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:24.720
fast. Okay, so PWM seems simple, right? No, no, no. So, that can cause all kinds

00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:30.000
of issues. It can cause whining in the fans. It can cause fans to die. It can

00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:33.599
cause it to just generally not work. It can cause all kinds of issues. So,

00:34:31.839 --> 00:34:39.839
there's a lot that goes into it and Link is pretty mature, but does have trouble

00:34:35.359 --> 00:34:42.000
with third party fans sometimes. And I

00:34:39.839 --> 00:34:45.919
don't remember necessarily where I was going with that. Is it worth it? I don't

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.480
know. If you have an H100i, then install it. If you don't have an H100i, then

00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:53.200
it's probably not going to do a whole lot for you. I came in late where Slick.

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:57.920
Slick be sick. Yo, I currently have an X79 as Extreme 9. Should I get a 3820

00:34:55.839 --> 00:35:02.400
now and wait for a new generation or get the 3930K? The only reason you're going

00:35:00.240 --> 00:35:08.000
to benefit from a 3930K is if you're doing serious 3D work, not 3D games, 3D

00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:11.359
work, or if you're doing serious like video editing, photo edit, even photo

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.720
editing. I mean, come on. Even like serious video editing or after effects

00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:20.720
work. Um, other than that, quad core is fine. Trust me. Just joined after

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:24.960
getting home from work yet. The form will be done within probably about a

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:29.359
week and a half. It'll be up. I don't know if it'll be up in its final form,

00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:32.079
but it'll be up. Nope. No plans for 680 amp edition unboxing. Are there any

00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.440
MiniATX motherboards that have Thunderbolt ports yet? I believe

00:35:33.839 --> 00:35:39.440
Gigabyte has one, but it's not available in North

00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.520
America. What would you notice more? What would I notice more? An SSD or a

00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:48.160
new sound card? Oo, that's tough. I'd go

00:35:45.560 --> 00:35:50.560
SSD. Have you heard about photonic computing and excited about the

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:55.440
possibility of clock speeds near the speed of light? Yeah, we're a long way away from there, though. I'll get

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:59.119
excited when I can actually buy one. Should I get an i5 or an i7 for

00:36:00.200 --> 00:36:06.480
Autodesk? You know what? I don't have enough experience with CAD professional

00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:10.880
applications to really make a judgment there. If the GPU is doing a lot of the

00:36:08.240 --> 00:36:15.440
work, then go for the i5. If CPU still benefits and if it's heavily threaded,

00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:17.440
then go for an i7. Um, yeah, it's really

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.599
not that much more expensive for the i7, especially if you're building a

00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:25.680
workstation that's already going to have a high-end Quadro in it or whatever else. So, got to be your judgment call

00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:29.280
from that for that one. Jordan asks if I bought anything from the Steam sale. No,

00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:33.280
I have not. Although, I do have a copy of Far Cry 3 with my name on it that I'm

00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:37.920
pretty excited to play. Next personal rig update. Actually, I can give you

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.920
guys an update now

00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.119
because it shipped today. So, hopefully

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:48.240
I'll get it back from Mountain Mods sometime early in the new year and I'll

00:36:46.640 --> 00:36:52.480
get that built up. I'm super super excited to get it put back together. Oh,

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:58.000
apparently the motor on the San Die cooler turns off after it starts. Well,

00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:01.680
I'm very very interesting or very interesting, very interested to see how

00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.960
that works. Again, I will believe it when I see it. I'll believe it when

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:09.359
they've had one running for, you know, three years in a machine, you know, at

00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:13.520
whatever weird angle. And uh I mean I guess one thing I kind of worry about is

00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:17.760
when you have like a a stray wire that comes loose from a bundle and gets stuck

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:22.000
in a fan. It kind of goes and then the fan might stop and then your CPU over I

00:37:19.839 --> 00:37:26.000
mean what if this thing hits it spinning around at 2,000 RPM made of a even a

00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:31.839
light metal like aluminum? I mean what's that going to do to like a wire? I don't

00:37:28.240 --> 00:37:35.280
know. I I not I'm not saying progress is

00:37:31.839 --> 00:37:37.920
bad. I'm just skeptical until until I'm

00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:40.839
proven otherwise. NFF12 or Silverstone air penetrator. Either is a good choice,

00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:44.960
but make sure you're getting the AP-121s. There are air penetrators that

00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:49.079
are not as optimized for heat sink use. What do you think about the SP2500s?

00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:56.960
They're awesome. I'm using SP2500s myself. Love them. Two thumbs

00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:59.839
up. Noise Nazi. Well, yes. Who does the

00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:02.800
awesome NCL drawings? Uh, Tom. Tom does the awesome NCI XL drawings. He was

00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:09.119
actually featured on one of the early episodes of NetLink Weekly, and he talks about it a fair bit.

00:38:06.640 --> 00:38:14.400
23 minutes late. I was Oh, you were 23 minutes late. Yay, UK. Um, does NX sell

00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:18.480
most PCs online or in store for people that can't buy

00:38:15.640 --> 00:38:21.359
online? Uh, well, they sell lots of PCs online and in

00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:27.920
store. Watching your live stream from the Philippines. Yay. Hi, Philippines.

00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:31.920
Am I going to do an unboxing of the NZXT Kraken? Yes, it's already in the mail.

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:37.960
So, as soon as that arrives, I will not only unbox it,

00:38:34.040 --> 00:38:40.400
but I will also be putting it in the

00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:46.320
standardized this guy heatsink testing rig

00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:48.640
with Noctua NF A14 fans because it is a

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:53.520
140 mm radiator. However, I got to spend some time with the A14s and the F12s

00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:59.320
kind of, you know, fine-tuning the old ear and deciding what RPM I can run

00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:05.920
these at that they'll be the same sound level as the F12s because that that my

00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:09.839
friends is the point for me at a consistent sound level with optimized

00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:14.000
fans. In this case, those are very radiator and heat sink

00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:18.640
optimized. What is the best cooler? Because that way instead of measuring

00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:21.520
the efficiency of whatever fan happens to come on whatever heat sink and

00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:25.920
they're all running at different RPMs with different pressures etc etc etc

00:39:23.359 --> 00:39:31.359
different noise levels we will know which heat sink is the best heat sink

00:39:29.359 --> 00:39:35.200
with a proper fan at a noise layout level that everyone will find palatable.

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:39.040
And I know some of you don't care and that's fine. I accept that. But uh I

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:43.359
just don't think computers need to be loud. In fact, I had one person seem to

00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:48.000
get really upset on the uh on the video where I was saying there's no need to

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.960
have a loud computer because he was, you know, those those fans are 20 bucks

00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:55.040
each. Like they're not cheap. You can get cheaper quiet fans. Okay, you don't

00:39:53.359 --> 00:39:58.320
have to buy $20 fans, but those are awesome. Um cuz he was like, "Well, I

00:39:57.040 --> 00:40:06.839
can't afford to have a quiet computer." What do you mean you can't afford to have a quiet computer?

00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.839
Here. Where are they?

00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:15.359
like whatever component you bought, I guarantee you there's one that costs the

00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:17.280
same that's quiet. So, there's that. You

00:40:15.359 --> 00:40:20.720
know, whatever case you bought that has wind turbine fans in it, you could have

00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:25.040
bought something quiet. And these cost like pennies. These are low-noise

00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:29.440
adapters. It's just an inline resistor. Heck, if you want to be, you know,

00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:33.520
creative, you can just go buy resistors. Here's the color coding. Go buy them at

00:40:31.680 --> 00:40:38.480
the local Radio Shack or equivalent. There you go. Gold, black, blue, green.

00:40:35.839 --> 00:40:44.079
and install them in line with your fans. Boom. Quiet quiet PC for like less than

00:40:41.359 --> 00:40:46.720
five bucks. So, there you go. It's not about spending a bunch of money on

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.680
having a quiet computer. It's about there's no reason to have a loud computer. I play from my couch at 2 and

00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:56.560
a half meters from my monitor. Do you have a great keyboard mouse suggestion? Not really. Um although there's

00:40:55.040 --> 00:41:01.280
something really cool that I have coming. It's like a couch couch gaming

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.860
thing. I'm going to see if I can uh see if I can find this

00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:13.040
couch gaming table thing. Crap. There's one.

00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:19.960
There's one being sent. Couch stand. How do you guys blah blah blah shiny hacks

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.640
gaming on your couch or sofa? Ah

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:27.839
man. Let me shoot. I don't remember what it's called, but it's from a smaller

00:41:24.160 --> 00:41:30.560
company in the UK and it's like just

00:41:27.839 --> 00:41:34.800
faking awesome. It's like a bean baggy thing that sits on your on your lap. Um,

00:41:33.359 --> 00:41:38.960
honestly, if I was gaming from the couch, I'd still prefer wired if I can

00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:42.760
get away with it. So, I'd just go with something like a USB

00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:47.040
extension, you know. Uh, what fan controller would you

00:41:45.200 --> 00:41:49.680
recommend? I use a T- balancer. Other than that, I don't really recommend fan

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:55.119
controllers. I recommend just permanently quieting things down. uh

00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:58.040
using the aforementioned resistors or

00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:02.560
yeah, fan controllers are kind of ridiculous. Like, think about this for a

00:42:00.240 --> 00:42:07.280
second, right? Okay, here to test if you would use a fan controller or not, take

00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:11.200
something like uh like a little action figure or something, put them on top of

00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:15.440
your computer case, and then every time you launch a game, reach down and put

00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:20.079
him on his side. And then every time you close a game, reach down and stand him

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:23.920
up. See how long that lasts. see how long you can do it for before you forget

00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:28.160
or don't care. That is why fan controllers are stupid because nobody

00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:31.119
actually does that. Uh the temperature sensors that they use are totally

00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:35.200
useless because it's not like you can put them uh you know next to the CPU die

00:42:33.680 --> 00:42:39.280
anymore like we used to do back in the socket a days. Um, so you can't even

00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:42.319
measure any useful temperatures with them unless you have a software

00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.599
controlled one, something like Corsair Link or something like an MQTT balancer

00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.440
where everything's automated and you got fan curves and temperatures and all that

00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.000
kind of stuff, then it's just pointless. Turn down your fans, have a quiet

00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:58.480
computer every day, all day. All right, bought a system today.

00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:03.760
Only ordered the case from NCIX. I forgot and ordered everything from

00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:08.079
Newegg. Going crazy. Cannot decide between a 7970 or 670. There's a $10

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:12.880
difference. You know what? They're both great options. Flip a coin. Uh 7970 is

00:43:11.359 --> 00:43:17.440
what I would probably recommend for a surround gaming setup, whereas a 670 is

00:43:15.040 --> 00:43:21.359
way better for 3D. So, decide which of those is more important to you. Intake

00:43:19.839 --> 00:43:26.880
or exhaust at the top of the case? Usually exhaust. Friend with a Mac Pro.

00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.560
And what is the point of 96 gigs of RAM? That is so overkill. You know what? I

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:34.960
would have said the same thing about something like 16 or 32 gigs of RAM. So,

00:43:33.359 --> 00:43:38.800
there's a couple things you can do until recently. There's a couple of things you

00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:42.720
can do. Number one is you can set up a RAM disc. Okay? So, you can install some

00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:49.040
stuff on there. You can use as a scratch disc when you're video editing or whatever else. Number two is I had no

00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:54.079
idea how he pulled this off, but Diesel managed to just destroy the uh the

00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.760
memory utilization of a system with 16 gigs of memory. like he only had like

00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:02.160
two things open, but he had like some color correction uh Da Vinci Resolve

00:44:00.319 --> 00:44:05.440
thing and then he had Premier going and then like he wanted to do something else

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:10.160
and he checked his memory. He was like, "Oh, I got to close something before I can open anything else." I was like,

00:44:07.680 --> 00:44:13.319
"Okay, dude. I'll get you 32 gigs of RAM for the editing machine." So, there you

00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:17.839
go. For serious serious professional work, you

00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:23.920
can use more RAM. Another use is virtual machines. If you want to run VMs, you'll

00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:30.400
need tons and tons of RAM. I am an OS10 user. I'm sorry to hear

00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:34.160
that. Uh I love watching your videos. I'm happy to hear that. Why do you

00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:39.520
prefer PC over OS 10? I like both platforms, but I prefer OS 10. Uh one

00:44:36.520 --> 00:44:39.520
word

00:44:39.560 --> 00:44:49.440
games right now there's nothing for OS 10. I mean, I can play some uh some Bop,

00:44:45.839 --> 00:44:53.200
you know, Mac games. I can play games on

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:54.800
my iPad, but if I actually want to like

00:44:53.200 --> 00:45:00.560
sit down at my computer and veg and play a shooter, there's there's nothing. I

00:44:57.520 --> 00:45:02.400
mean, I this sort of leads into

00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:06.160
something that I find very sad. Like, I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:10.920
do more to try to salvage the PC as a gaming platform. Like I understand Xbox

00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:15.760
is great and licensing fees are awesome and like consoles are great because you

00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:19.839
can sell what is essentially, you know, a hundred bucks worth of three

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:23.680
generation, four, five generation old stuff for, you know, 300 bucks. I I

00:45:22.319 --> 00:45:28.720
understand that's all cool. That's fantastic. Good for you. But understand

00:45:26.720 --> 00:45:34.560
that the only thing differentiating your platform from Linux and OS 10, from some

00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:39.839
kind of Apple OS, is gaming and gamers and tweakability. And the more they get

00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:43.560
away from that, the more I worry about what the future of something like

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:47.280
Windows is. So yeah, right now that's a big part of

00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:52.560
the reason. Also, I just find it phenomenally difficult to use. Every time I sit down at a at an OS 10

00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:57.440
computer, I managed to break something within about 3 seconds. So, I don't

00:45:55.040 --> 00:46:02.000
know. It's just like just stupid stuff like dragging discs to the trash can to

00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:05.520
eject them. It's like that was handicapped back when they were doing it

00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:08.359
10 years ago. It's still handicapped now, but for whatever reason, they

00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:13.839
haven't changed it, so I don't quite get it. Um, what do you think of using RAM

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:17.040
as a hard drive caching? Um, fantasy cache looks really neat. Haven't tried

00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.400
it yet. Once I get my personal rig up and running, I actually really want to

00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:24.640
get that going. So, I have 64 gigs of RAM that I'm going to put in my

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:29.599
motherboard. Then I have my 900 gigs or whatever of RAID zero SSDs. I'm going to

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:32.640
run fancy cache. Maybe throw 48 gigs of that memory because I I don't I'm just

00:46:31.359 --> 00:46:36.400
playing games. I'm not going to need anything for video editing or anything

00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:43.119
like that. Nothing fancy. So, I'll throw 48 gigs of RAM cache at the almost 1 TB

00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:46.400
SSD in RAID zero and I'll see what kind of like crazy performance I can get.

00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:53.280
I'll see if I notice it more than anything else. Would you ever add a sound card to

00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:53.280
your water loop?

00:46:53.319 --> 00:47:00.240
Nope. Uh, tuning in live from Belgium. Yay. How's the litter quitter going?

00:46:58.040 --> 00:47:04.480
Oh, litter quitter's good. We had another accident today. It had been like

00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:09.119
3 days since the last one and I'm super mad about this. I had the door open into

00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:13.520
the garage where I had their old litter box uh while I was preparing for the

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:18.240
live stream. This is actually like I know I'm always late, but seriously

00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:23.839
guys, there's always a legit reason. So, I was chasing the cat out of here

00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:26.560
because he snuck into the garage and

00:47:23.839 --> 00:47:32.400
found where I stashed his litter box and dumped it all over the floor. Freaking

00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:36.640
sweet. So, I get to clean that up later. Oh, shoot. I just changed the uh Oops.

00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:40.319
Uh oh. I don't know how that affected the stream. There we go. I was trying to

00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:44.800
just change the game there so you guys could see the spilled litter. That makes

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:50.480
my life good. So, uh so yeah, not impressed. Bad cat. That was

00:47:47.160 --> 00:47:51.800
Rocket. Super super annoyed with him.

00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:56.400
But, uh yeah, other than that, good. I was

00:47:54.560 --> 00:48:00.440
hoping based on that we hadn't had any accidents for a few days that we'd be

00:47:58.560 --> 00:48:05.560
good to go to move to the next stage, but it looks like that's not

00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:08.640
going to happen quite yet. Not quite

00:48:05.560 --> 00:48:10.800
yet. Uh, no experience with the non-

00:48:08.640 --> 00:48:15.280
cherry ones. I'm sort of mainstream that way when it comes to mechanical

00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:17.839
keyboards. Uh, Razer Black Widow. I would probably go for the Ultimate. I

00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:22.000
don't think the Black Widow actually uses Cherry MX switches. Speaking of me

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:27.280
only really knowing Cherry MX switches. Okay, more about more about more about

00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:31.040
uh test my first use of Twitter. Hi, Stephen. Do you think new games will

00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:34.720
start using less CPU and more GPU power? We've already seen that. Um, personally,

00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:39.440
I'd like to see games use more CPU power. I mean, I almost everyone has a

00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:44.319
dual core at this point. I think a lot of particularly gamers and enthusiasts

00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:46.880
are moving to quad cores. Um, why don't

00:48:44.319 --> 00:48:51.119
we have a seriously physics-based game where there's an entire CPU dedicated to

00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:54.880
just making everything a simulation as opposed to pre-rendered or whatever

00:48:53.359 --> 00:48:59.440
else? I mean, yeah, it's consoles holding us back,

00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:02.800
but yeah, I'm that's what I'm more excited about than anything else. That

00:49:00.720 --> 00:49:06.160
and virtual reality. Um, we talked about it uh either last week or the week

00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:10.480
before, but there's a VR headset coming that looks really really cool. So, I

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:16.800
mean, I think gaming's in a bit of a funk right now for the last few years,

00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:21.920
but I'm yeah, really excited about some of the things that are coming. 3D, not

00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:25.200
so much, but VR and more physics. Super

00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:26.800
excited about a 670 for the win. I have

00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:31.520
enough money to get a second 670 or TJ7B. What should I get? You know what?

00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:35.040
I can't make that decision for you. Um, if you feel like it's worthwhile

00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:40.079
investing in an expensive case, then that is the call that you have to make.

00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:45.520
Personally, why did I buy a TJ7? I bought a TJ07. Well, my wife, now now

00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:49.200
wife, then girlfriend bought it for me. Uh because I really wanted one and it

00:49:47.520 --> 00:49:53.760
was very, very generous of her. Why did I get a TJ7? Because I knew that 5 years

00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.599
down the line, I would still be using that chassis. I wouldn't want anything

00:49:55.520 --> 00:50:01.200
different. I knew that already. I still think it's the best chassis on the

00:49:59.040 --> 00:50:08.079
market once you do the appropriate mods to make it a little bit more functional.

00:50:04.359 --> 00:50:10.559
Um, so if you're willing to commit to a

00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:14.000
case that way, then go for it. Otherwise, I find it very hard to

00:50:12.160 --> 00:50:18.000
justify spending so much on a case when there are great options like something

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:22.240
like a Define R4 window that don't cost nearly as much. I mean, you could buy a

00:50:19.359 --> 00:50:25.599
Defin R4 window, save a pennies from a couple, you know, one more paycheck and

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:31.359
buy yourself both as opposed to buying something like a TJ07. So, it is

00:50:27.839 --> 00:50:33.640
definitely a niche part. Um, and it's

00:50:31.359 --> 00:50:38.960
totally up to you. whether something you want to do that.

00:50:37.040 --> 00:50:42.400
Chase asks if I've decided to stream the assembly of my rig. I might, I might not

00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:46.000
because it's probably going to take me something like yeah 8 to 10 hours

00:50:44.720 --> 00:50:50.000
straight because I'll be making some custom wires and cables. I'll be

00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:53.200
splicing some stuff, sleeving some stuff at the last minute as I go. So, I

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:59.200
haven't really decided if it makes sense, but if you guys like the idea, then let me know and uh and I'll think

00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:02.800
about it. I live in Quebec and there's no places to try keyboards. Any tips?

00:51:01.200 --> 00:51:07.359
because I'm looking for a switch to type and game. Get browns. Browns or blacks

00:51:05.359 --> 00:51:12.000
are good bets. Uh, personally, I like blues for gaming. I got no problem with

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:16.319
that. Um, they're all good. Mechanical is just better than membrane in every

00:51:13.839 --> 00:51:19.520
possible way. I would like to use static link aggregation. Could you tell me more

00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:23.680
about it and how to set it up with your router? Uh, it's not a router feature.

00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:28.720
It's actually a switch feature. So, if you don't have a managed switch of some

00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:33.839
sort that supports LCP, then you aren't doing that.

00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:37.359
Also, it probably won't really matter because here's something to understand

00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:42.880
about link aggregation that I didn't when I first got started with the the

00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:44.800
quad gigabit

00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:50.160
uh nit cards. I thought I was going to get 4 Gbit per second pointtooint.

00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:55.359
That's not how it works. It's actually not adding more top speed, but adding

00:51:53.440 --> 00:52:01.520
more lanes to the highway, if you get what I mean. So it's more like four one

00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:03.599
gigabit streams versus a single 4

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:07.839
gigabit stream. So that means you could have four computers pulling one gigabit

00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:11.839
off that computer all at the same time. Or if one of the connection goes down,

00:52:09.839 --> 00:52:16.319
you'll have 3 GB total and it'll be a fail safe and everything will still

00:52:13.319 --> 00:52:17.839
work. But you can't just have one

00:52:16.319 --> 00:52:22.319
computer pulling off another one at 4 Gbit per second. So it doesn't really

00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:27.720
matter for consumer use. That's why I ended up looking into uh uh looking into

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:30.720
whatever it's called.

00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:39.680
Um right, 10 gigabit as opposed to something like 4

00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.680
gigabit. So, let's

00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:48.440
see. Here we go. Ryan says, "Lion, the

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:50.640
vid you just put up says December 14th."

00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:54.160
Oops. Hey, hopefully that doesn't keep too many people from joining. You know

00:52:51.839 --> 00:52:57.760
what? Let's take some newer questions. And I think I had a couple of live

00:52:55.520 --> 00:53:01.640
stream topics tonight, but again, like I said, I can't Oh my goodness. I can't

00:52:59.839 --> 00:53:05.760
leave Slick to entertain you guys in the meantime. What's your opinion on the

00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:09.440
Korean rebranded Apple 27in Cinema Displays? I'm not aware of rebranded

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:17.119
Apple 27inch cinema displays. I'm aware of a minus panel LG IPS monitors that

00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:20.400
are 2560 by 1440. Uh they're cheap,

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.760
which is good. They're cheap, which is

00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:26.720
good. They're high-res, which is good. They're IPS, which is good. These are all good things. The things I'd worry

00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:30.160
about are things like warranty support. Uh things where you're not going to get

00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:33.599
a return for it, like backlight bleeding around the edges. These are A minus

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.960
panels, so the odds of getting a dead pixel. However many accounts you find on

00:53:35.680 --> 00:53:41.520
the internet of people saying they didn't get one, the odds are better than

00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:45.200
if you bought an A+ panel or an A panel, which is what you'll generally find in a

00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:49.359
retail product. So, what's my opinion? They're cheap. if I was going to buy I

00:53:47.839 --> 00:53:53.119
sure wish they'd make one without a glossy bezel. I was even looking into

00:53:51.359 --> 00:53:56.720
them. I was like, "Well, I could use uh I could use a surround 27inch gaming

00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.480
setup." And then I was just like, "Oh, they all have glossy bezels." I really

00:53:59.040 --> 00:54:06.640
want to do a project over the next little bit where I actually take the bezels off of three monitors, mount them

00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:10.640
on one of those XFXinity stands, and have like a bezelless multimonitor

00:54:08.640 --> 00:54:13.520
setup. But that's the kind of thing that it'll be a little while before I can uh

00:54:12.319 --> 00:54:19.280
before I can get that going. I still have to actually manage to finish building my computer. So yeah,

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:22.559
everything was working except his motherboard. Now the new motherboard is causing it to not post. Okay, well then

00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:28.000
you might have a problem with your motherboard. Chris, uh, blues are the

00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.599
loudest. Liam, is the 3970X worth buying

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:34.240
for a YouTube commentator? Like video rendering every day, maybe 3D and best

00:54:31.359 --> 00:54:37.680
silent case. Define R4 window gets my vote for like just being a freaking

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:42.400
awesome case in general. Very, very quiet. Uh, 3970X, of course, it's not

00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:46.800
worth it. I mean, do you even need me to tell you that? Just look at the specs.

00:54:44.240 --> 00:54:51.319
It's like best case scenario like 10% faster than a 3930K and it costs like

00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:55.440
what 2x. So, I don't know. Worth it? I don't

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.359
know. I mean, if it's your job and you make money doing it and you want to spend a,000 bucks, you want to have an

00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:04.240
extreme edition, you want to have like a, you know, like a prestige piece, go

00:55:01.520 --> 00:55:07.559
for it. Buy an extreme edition. Um, but if you're looking for bang for the buck,

00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:12.480
buy a 3930K, overclock it. There you go.

00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:16.480
You've got extreme edition performance pretty much within sort of margin of

00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:20.800
error because it has about three megs less cache. Um they can overclock to

00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:25.760
pretty much the same speed though. They're otherwise the same chip. They

00:55:22.640 --> 00:55:28.000
are the same actual die. It's just a bin

00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:31.680
process. Um and then if you run an even better value, you get a 3770K which

00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:38.839
unless you're leveraging those other two cores will actually perform better than

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:38.839
a 3930K or a 3970X.

00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:45.280
When is NCX opening in Montreal? Um,

00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:49.920
probably not anytime soon would be my guess. There's a lot of laws around sort

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:53.920
of having a physical presence in Montreal where the the the laws don't

00:55:52.319 --> 00:55:57.119
apply to you if you're not there, but they do apply to you if you are there

00:55:55.359 --> 00:56:01.119
and you have to have like French on all your packaging and blah blah blah. Like,

00:55:58.640 --> 00:56:04.440
I just super doubt it. Um, NCX already ships to Montreal. There's free shipping

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:09.119
promotions all the time. So yeah, I don't really see a compelling

00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.880
reason to have a store there. Need a recommendation for a 750 watt power

00:56:11.040 --> 00:56:16.079
supply, modular and easy to sleeve. Saw the EVG at a very attractive price. What

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:19.200
are you saying? Um, you know what? You know who does really easy to sleeve

00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:23.359
power supplies? The Silverstone because they always do a onetoone connector. Uh,

00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:26.319
they're modular cables are one cable to one cable, so you can easily resleve

00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:30.160
them in a different color if you want. That's something that while the sleeving

00:56:28.240 --> 00:56:35.119
on the Strider 1000 Plus, for example, is not the best I've ever seen, as a lot

00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:39.760
of the commenters noted on the unboxing, um, it's not a bad power supply by any

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:44.880
stretch. It's efficient, it's small, so it's compact, it's going to fit in the

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:46.720
SG9 build that we're planning, and it is

00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:50.160
very easy to sleeve if you want to do individual sleeings. So, there you go.

00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:55.200
That would be that would be a good recommendation. Silverstone Plus and not

00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:59.359
that expensive either. Fancy Cash works great apparently. Awesome. Single sleeve

00:56:57.680 --> 00:57:02.799
power supply tutorial. Didn't manage to find one. Uh, I have that mixed in with

00:57:01.359 --> 00:57:06.160
some of my personal rig updates, but honestly, I'm not the best at it. I

00:57:04.640 --> 00:57:11.319
think there's some good guides on hard OCP,

00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:12.920
particularly. How does the system

00:57:11.319 --> 00:57:18.079
sound? Good. With SSD, get an I don't know, get

00:57:15.839 --> 00:57:21.920
an M4. Get a Neutron GTX. Actually, we have a new SSD update coming on the NCX

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:28.319
Tech Tips channel soon where basically we discover that the Vector, the Neutron

00:57:24.640 --> 00:57:29.920
GTX, the M5P from Plexor, and presumably

00:57:28.319 --> 00:57:32.720
the 840 Pro are all kind of within spitting distance of each other. So, buy

00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:37.680
whatever you want that makes you happy and looks cool and enjoy

00:57:35.319 --> 00:57:45.520
it. Watching the live stream, setting up my Prodigy build. Oo, very nice. 3570K,

00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:47.680
16 gigs, 680 signature, water cooled.

00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:50.960
Very cool. Uh, the Black Widow Ultimate does use TriamX blue switches. I know,

00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:55.359
but there's a Black Widow not Ultimate. That's what I was talking about. I don't

00:57:53.280 --> 00:58:00.760
believe that one uses blue switches. Stream the build. All right, sounds

00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:03.040
good. Just have some music. All

00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:06.960
right. The first time seeing you live. I really like your YouTube tech tips.

00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:11.559
Thank you. Thank you for watching. It helps a lot. Where can I test the

00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:15.520
different types of Cherry MX keys? Really? Friends who have them? That's

00:58:13.839 --> 00:58:18.400
about all you can really do. I mean, you can watch something like I did a

00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:21.839
mechanical keyboard shopping guide on the NCX tech tips channel. You can watch

00:58:20.160 --> 00:58:25.359
that. I try to give you guys a pretty good idea of the different feels, but

00:58:23.839 --> 00:58:33.520
it's the kind of thing where unless you've tried it yourself, it's very hard

00:58:27.680 --> 00:58:33.520
to to do sort of online. Um,

00:58:33.640 --> 00:58:39.839
yeah. Uh, you know what? I think this is

00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:44.880
a better topic for when Slick is here to sort of discuss it with me. So, I'm

00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:47.720
going to leave that one for now.

00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:52.559
Uh 75 degrees. Yeah, that's fine. Stream everything. Okay, got it.

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:56.400
What are your thoughts on water cooling kits? I think something like an H100 or

00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:01.839
H100i makes a lot of sense because it has a dual radiator. I've never been a

00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:05.200
big fan of single rad water cooling kits

00:59:01.839 --> 00:59:06.559
for one reason. They're expensive. Well,

00:59:05.200 --> 00:59:10.720
they're not super expensive. I mean, this is about a hundred bucks, which is

00:59:09.040 --> 00:59:16.400
expensive, but it's not like, you know, going to make you break make you or

00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:18.799
break you. Um, but I beyond clearing up

00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:22.880
space around the CPU socket and looking really good, they don't offer anything

00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:27.119
compelling over a high-end air cooler, which will actually perform better than

00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:31.200
a pre-done water cooler. So, something like an H100 or H100i, that's ruler of

00:59:29.680 --> 00:59:34.720
the roost. That's about as good as it gets in terms of performance because you

00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:38.960
have all that surface area. You got two fans, they are both cooling it and doing

00:59:37.040 --> 00:59:43.599
awesome work and everything is good. Better even than a Silverero Extreme.

00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:47.200
Silver Extreme destroyed the H8I in my testing. So, that's all I really need to

00:59:45.680 --> 00:59:50.720
know about it. Why am I spending so much on this if it actually doesn't perform

00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:54.000
as well as a high-end air cooling solution? Not to mention that high-end

00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:58.079
air cooling solutions can be more flexible in some ways. My wife's

00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:02.960
machine, if you check out my personal project, wife computer or something like

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:10.240
that, has a Silverero non-extreme in it that I'm actually using to passively

01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:11.839
cool the CPU. So, she's got a 980X in

01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:17.599
there. So, that's an Extreme Edition six core last generation Golf Town. Uh,

01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:19.040
she's got a 5870 that has an aftermarket

01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:22.799
cooler on it. Also a thermal right cooler with a 120 mil fan. So, there's

01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:26.880
only three fans in this machine. There's one in the back of the case blowing

01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:30.240
inward towards that tower heat sink, which is enough to keep it cool under

01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:34.880
load. No overclocking, mind you. There's the 5870 fan, which is spinning at like

01:00:32.799 --> 01:00:40.160
600 RPM or something like that. So, it's very, very quiet and keeps that card

01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:43.599
cool even under full firmark load. Um, I had it turned around the the wrong way

01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:46.480
for a bit. That wasn't very smart. If I'd had the fan speed cranked up, it

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:52.000
might have been okay, but I got had to turn that back around. And then there's the power supply fan. Super silent

01:00:50.319 --> 01:00:56.559
machine. Uh, couldn't do it with something like an H80 because you'd have

01:00:53.520 --> 01:00:59.119
a pump and you would need another fan on

01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:02.000
the back. So, you haven't managed to actually eliminate any noise sources.

01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:07.240
Whereas with a tower heat sink in a passive mode, you've managed to eliminate at least one fan from the

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:11.359
system. So there, that's my take on that. Love to watch the live stream.

01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:15.680
Okay. How much do you think is a normal price for a high-end case? I don't know,

01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:19.240
man. It's called Google. Google highend here. You know what? Why don't we do

01:01:16.799 --> 01:01:27.400
this just for ls? Oh. Oh, I screwed up. There we

01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.400
go. Hi.

01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:39.480
Lunatic high-end iPhone case. Oh, we

01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:42.280
better be more specific.

01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:49.119
Computer. Aha. High-end computer case. Best high-end gaming case. Solved

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:51.160
on Tom's hardware. I am looking for a

01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:56.640
high-end gaming case. Blah blah blah blah blah blah

01:01:53.680 --> 01:02:02.119
blah. Something something something. First one looks decent. Okay. Something

01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:04.960
something. Ah, someone linked to

01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:09.359
Newegg. A high-end case. Look at that. It's a

01:02:06.839 --> 01:02:15.599
TJ7. Oh, what happened to it? It went away. Boo. Boo. TJ7BW

01:02:13.160 --> 01:02:20.079
discontinued. Whatever. It's like 350 bucks. So, there. That answers your

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:23.760
question. TJ07 is a high. Actually, I didn't stage that you guys, just so you

01:02:21.520 --> 01:02:28.640
know. TJ07 is a high-end case and it's about 350 bucks.

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:33.280
Stream the build. Stream the build. Stream the build. Stream the build. Got

01:02:30.799 --> 01:02:36.599
it. Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. What do you recommend as a replacement

01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:42.319
for Infinity? Infinity. Um, Infinity is just

01:02:40.319 --> 01:02:46.480
uh AMD's branding for running triple monitors and surround. So, there's

01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:50.960
NVIDIA Surround, which is not quite as easy to set up as affinity, and then

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:53.680
there's Infinity. So, that's that's it.

01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:56.839
Uh, is the 39. Oh, yeah. Okay, I already saw that one. Best CPU temperature

01:02:55.359 --> 01:03:00.319
monitoring software. I use Realtemp. I really like it. What's a

01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:07.440
quick recommendation you could give us for a good budgeted video editing rig?

01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:11.079
3770K. 16 to 32 gigs of RAM. MATX board.

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:13.559
Keep it nice and small. SSD for

01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:19.039
boot. Another different drive for scratch. Yeah. Okay. I want to get an

01:03:16.319 --> 01:03:23.599
SSD, but don't want to spend over $100. What's the best? Buy a 120 gig SSD

01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:27.119
that's under 100 bucks. Get whatever you want because you're not getting a

01:03:24.640 --> 01:03:30.720
premium SSD at that price. So, buy whatever you can get. Just make sure you

01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:33.280
get something decent like an M4. Currently, I have a 6870 and I'm

01:03:32.319 --> 01:03:39.520
planning to upgrade. Should I get another one to buy? No. Buy a better single card. A lot of people sort of

01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:44.240
Okay, here. Think about it this way. When you get a new car, do you buy

01:03:42.160 --> 01:03:49.520
another car to run next to it so you can carry more people or do you just sell

01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:53.359
your old car and buy a new car? I think most people sell their old car. But a

01:03:51.839 --> 01:03:59.359
lot of people seem to have trouble with this whole my video card is outdated.

01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:02.799
Um, so you know, I'm gonna replace it and then they just kind of like they

01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:07.440
throw it away or something like I don't. It has a trade-in value. Sell your old

01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:10.480
graphics card. Find a buddy to buy it. Sell put it on eBay. It doesn't matter.

01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:15.280
You can get money back for your graphics card. 6870 is still worth a couple

01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:19.920
bucks. So you sell that, you take that money, you buy something better. So,

01:04:17.520 --> 01:04:26.720
it's not just as simple as, well, a 6870 will only cost me $100 and a 7950 will

01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:29.359
cost me $250, so I'm spending 100 or

01:04:26.720 --> 01:04:32.559
250. No, no, you sell your 6870 for 100 bucks. Then you pay an extra 150, you

01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:38.160
get something new that's better and faster and current generation and will have longer driver support and all these

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:42.200
other advantages. So, I almost never recommend twinning an older graphics

01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:47.200
card. Sell what you have, get something new. Misk is an open source RAM disc

01:04:44.720 --> 01:04:50.240
software. Okay, I have a Model M. Very nice. I haven't tried the Unicom.

01:04:48.799 --> 01:04:54.319
Although, I had a ModelM that someone gave me and then they took back, so I

01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:57.760
was super sad about that. Uh, best headset would be the 7H. That's my

01:04:56.240 --> 01:05:01.680
personal favorite. Is it the best best best best? Hard to say. I don't know.

01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:04.960
Uh, Plantronics has a new like Game Commander something or other that's like

01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:09.839
300 bucks. It looks pretty uber. Haven't tried it yet. But 7H is a great value

01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:13.400
for around 100 bucks. Uh, and yes, Oculus VR. That's the virtual reality

01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:16.799
thing I was talking about. Since we're on the topic of

01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:21.359
games, what are some of your most played? Played a lot of Left 4 Dead.

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.520
Played Far Cry all the way through a couple times. Uh, played Crisis all the

01:05:23.839 --> 01:05:31.240
way through. Final Fantasy 6, I've played through sort of a half a dozen,

01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:34.000
10 times. Um, six is the

01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:39.280
best. It truly is. Seven is not better than six. Um, I don't know what else.

01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:43.280
Played a lot of TIE Fighter when I was a kid.

01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:47.119
opinions on passive silent CPU coolers. I think I talked about this a fair bit

01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:51.839
uh right after he asked that question. So, I'm going to leave that one for now.

01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:55.440
What PC case would you guys buy to get the best included cooling per dollar?

01:05:54.240 --> 01:06:02.680
I'd probably get something from like a half series, like a half 912, something like that. How much do you think is a

01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:06.000
normal price for a case? Oh, man. Is the

01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:08.240
3970 There's a repeat. Okay, let's go

01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:13.839
back up to the top. No. No, I don't think so. As much as

01:06:10.799 --> 01:06:13.839
Gabe Newell wants it

01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:21.520
to. Okay. 168 new interactions. Awesome. You

01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:25.599
know what? If you guys give me just one moment, I'm going to see if I can find

01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:33.039
any of the topics that I wanted to do tonight. So, live stream topic. No,

01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:35.520
that's a stupid topic. Um, oh, shoot.

01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:43.240
Right. I forgot about this. I have a giveaway for tonight. It is

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:45.720
only for live stream watchers,

01:06:43.240 --> 01:06:51.680
viewers, and I don't remember how I was planning

01:06:49.280 --> 01:07:00.960
to do it. Let me just find the email where we

01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:05.280
talked about it. I cannot find it. Oh,

01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:09.920
please tell me it's there. Uh

01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:11.280
I am giving away a copy of Windows 8. I

01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:17.680
don't actually know what version of Windows 8. I I I don't really know

01:07:14.359 --> 01:07:22.000
anything. Why don't we do a Microsoft

01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:25.480
trivia thing and the first one Aha. The

01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:27.319
first one to tweet the correct

01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:32.079
answer is the winner of a copy of Windows 8.

01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:35.200
So, I'm going to go with one of my personal favorite little bits of

01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:40.240
Microsoft trivia because it has to do with my hometown. And I'm going to ask

01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:44.240
I'm not going to give you guys many hints. Okay. So, you're going to win

01:07:42.319 --> 01:07:47.760
Windows 8. Oh. Oh. Oh, right. And you got to go to here. Hold on. Hold on. I'm

01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:52.319
going to find there's a YouTube channel. There's a collaborative effort going on

01:07:49.440 --> 01:08:00.400
to bring you guys this giveaway. So, look at Slick. There he is. Uh, so Timmy

01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:02.760
Tech TV, I think.

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:09.119
Uh yeah, I want to leave this page. Hold on. Timmy TechTV. So this

01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:13.680
giveaway is sponsored by Timmy Tech TV. Um so we're getting Oh, wait. Okay,

01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:16.720
there you go. Look at that. He has a video about it. Let's watch the

01:08:17.480 --> 01:08:26.120
video. D intro. Moving right along.

01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:26.120
Timmy TechTV and Linus Tech Tips.

01:08:33.120 --> 01:08:42.719
All right. I don't know what he says, but it's probably pretty good. So,

01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:44.319
basically, I have decided that the first

01:08:42.719 --> 01:08:49.759
person, guys, be ready. Be ready on Twitter. If you're not following on Twitter, then that's really just too bad

01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:54.719
for you. Um, you know, I'm sorry you don't like Twitter or Twitter, you know,

01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:59.159
burned your dog or something, but uh that's how you're going to

01:08:57.080 --> 01:09:03.359
win. What was the code

01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:10.839
name for Windows

01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:14.799
Vista based on? Oh, and guys, to win, you got to be

01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:20.080
subscribed to me. You got to be subscribed to Timmy TechTV. So guys, do

01:09:17.440 --> 01:09:20.080
check out his

01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:27.040
videos. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I know what the code name was. What? Why

01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:31.600
was that the code name? What was it actually based on? Okay, so let's go

01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.600
back to

01:09:33.799 --> 01:09:39.359
Twitter. You win a copy of Windows

01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:42.080
8. Okay. Yeah, no one got it before that. And yes, that is a ThinkGeek

01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:47.759
sticker in the back. I don't remember where it is, but it's somewhere back there. Yeah, it's on my external DVD

01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:50.600
drive. This uh this question is pretty pretty

01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:57.679
close to my heart.

01:09:53.400 --> 01:09:59.600
Yeah. No, no, none of this is right. No,

01:09:57.679 --> 01:10:03.560
none of this is right. Oh, hold on. Okay, let's see if Oh, let's see if Oh,

01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:10.560
no. Sasha's not first. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, what? Oh, jeez. This isn't very

01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:12.400
accurate. Can't hear your videos. So,

01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:18.719
yeah, Longhorn. Longhorn. Yeah, it was Longhorn, but that's not that's not why.

01:10:15.480 --> 01:10:21.880
Oh, Suki, I don't know if I can let you

01:10:18.719 --> 01:10:25.600
have that one because it is

01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:28.120
not Yeah. Yes. It's not specific enough.

01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:33.120
Not specific enough. Yes. The Longhorn Saloon is in Whistler, BC, which is very

01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:39.120
near to where I live. But the first person to say the Longhorn Longhorn Bar.

01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:41.960
Oh crap. I don't know if we've actually I don't know if we got a correct answer.

01:10:40.719 --> 01:10:46.480
I might have to come up with something else. I'm going to have to see. Okay.

01:10:44.320 --> 01:10:52.560
So, the Hold on. Time is now 10:13. So, anyone who anyone who comes up with it

01:10:50.320 --> 01:10:56.840
Yeah. No, it's not the Longhorn Horn Bar. It is the Longhorn Saloon, folks.

01:10:55.360 --> 01:11:03.760
Let's see if anyone came up with that before we ran out of uh before I gave

01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:03.760
away the answer here.

01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:16.800
Shoot. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Sorry, guys.

01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:20.320
I I cannot I cannot let that uh cannot

01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:23.120
let that happen. Longhorn barn is not or

01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:29.480
barn Longhorn bar is not good enough. It is the Longhorn saloon needed a specific

01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:32.480
answer. Okay, so let's come up with

01:11:29.480 --> 01:11:32.480
something

01:11:38.280 --> 01:11:45.440
else. Let's make this one easier just for just for ls actually. Let's make

01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:49.840
this one B. The first person to answer this viewer's question. So, this was

01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:53.760
this was from a previous or this Twitter Twitter respondent's question is going

01:11:51.679 --> 01:11:58.880
to win a copy of Windows 8. So, I had someone say,

01:11:55.560 --> 01:12:01.040
"Linus, I uh I recently upgraded my

01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:04.920
memory in my system. I put in I put in a whole new kit of memory. I've got 32

01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:12.400
gigs of RAM. It's showing up in the BIOS. Um, but unfortunately in my OS, I

01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:14.560
only see 16 gigs.

01:12:12.400 --> 01:12:20.800
I can only use 16 gigs. What's the problem? The first person to tweet me

01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:20.800
the correct answer to that

01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:26.159
problem wins a copy of Windows 8,

01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:31.760
assuming that they are subscribed to me and Timmy TechTV. Holy crap. 20 new

01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:39.000
interactions. Uh, go down, go down, go down, go down. I need a specific answer

01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:39.000
here, guys. Specific answer.

01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:49.760
Yep. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Nope. 32-bit is not the

01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:52.840
problem. 32-bit would not show 16 gigs of memory. You'd be limited to three or

01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:56.880
four. Not correct. Not correct. Not correct.

01:12:55.120 --> 01:13:01.480
Upgrade Windows is not specific enough for me. Devon, what version of Windows

01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:06.320
is he running? Home Edition. Not going to

01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:12.159
accept that either. Windows Premium. Nope. Sorry.

01:13:09.440 --> 01:13:17.199
I'm looking for the specifically correct answer. Twitter laziness will not work.

01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:24.880
See, again, this this is correct, but oh man, you guys you guys are killing me

01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:24.880
here. Why hasn't anyone tweeted

01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:35.760
me? Oh, see there,

01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:38.880
finally the RAM. Okay, you know what? Actually, I think that one came in

01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:45.719
before I said anything. Hold on. Hold on. Going down. Going down. Okay. 32-bit

01:13:43.679 --> 01:13:49.840
versus 64-bit is not right. So, let's go all the way up. I'm

01:13:48.080 --> 01:13:55.920
looking for the first person to say that he's running Windows Home Premium.

01:13:52.480 --> 01:13:55.920
Windows Home

01:13:56.679 --> 01:14:02.800
Premium. Windows version does not. Okay,

01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:05.679
Ryan, I think you're the first one.

01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:09.679
Windows 7 Home Premium is the pro. I don't like the way you guys are

01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:15.280
answering these though. I kind of kind of hate it where it's just not complete

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:17.920
sentence answers and it's like sort of

01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:17.920
random and

01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:25.520
crappy. Okay, I tell you what, I'll let Twitter decide. Ryan's the first one

01:14:22.719 --> 01:14:30.640
that actually managed to say what OS he was running and what was the problem,

01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:34.239
but he didn't say what the solution was.

01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:34.239
Whereas I saw one further up

01:14:34.280 --> 01:14:39.800
here. Okay, hold on. Where is it? Only

01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:45.280
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, I thought I saw one that said

01:14:43.360 --> 01:14:50.080
upgrade from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 7

01:14:47.320 --> 01:14:53.920
Pro. Okay, fine. Let's go. Let's go between Kian who says upgrade your

01:14:52.400 --> 01:14:57.640
Windows Oh, hold on. Windows Premium, not Pro. Okay, let's find the first

01:14:55.600 --> 01:15:02.480
person who didn't really sort of say it right. and then we'll we'll go for Ryan

01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:07.840
being the person who actually called it the the correct thing. So, here we go.

01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:12.320
First person who had the correct idea but didn't really say it

01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:12.320
right.

01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:23.440
Um, okay. So, I want you guys to tell me, should it be Devon or Ryan? Because

01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:26.239
Devon said upgrade Windows, but see, no. You know what? No, I can't accept that

01:15:24.719 --> 01:15:31.040
because he could have meant 32 versus 64-bit. Let's go with Jason. Jason or

01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:35.040
Ryan, Windows Home Edition is the problem. But Ryan actually calls it the

01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:40.239
right thing because home edition is not a Windows 7 product. That is a Windows

01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:42.000
XP product. Windows XP Home Edition. And

01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:46.640
if it was Windows XP Home Edition, it would not be 64-bit and it would not

01:15:44.480 --> 01:15:50.080
have 16 gigs of RAM being recognized in it. That's why I don't like these

01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:55.040
inexact answers because I don't know if you guys actually know what the problem

01:15:52.040 --> 01:15:56.800
is. So, I'll let I'll let Twitter decide

01:15:55.040 --> 01:16:02.000
and we will go from there. Holy crap, Twitter's exploding. You guys saved. You

01:15:59.440 --> 01:16:07.320
got Okay. Okay. Twitter has decided. Ryan is the winner. So, Ryan, uh, please

01:16:04.719 --> 01:16:11.600
send me an email at Linus techtips@gmail.com and we will we will

01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:17.360
go with it. So, for next week, I want you guys to be as precise as possible in

01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:21.600
your answers. I am going to be doing Windows 8 giveaways sponsored by Timmy

01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:26.840
Tech TV. So, guys, don't forget that YouTube channel where you want to go

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:32.880
here. There you go. youtube.comtimite oh you can't see

01:16:29.719 --> 01:16:34.640
ittimmy TV that is the actual sponsor of

01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:37.440
these Windows 8 giveaways so make sure you're subscribed to him make sure

01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:42.080
you're following him for any future updates and Ryan send me an email I will

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.040
arrange to get you a Windows 8 CD key you'll have to figure out where to get

01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:50.320
media on your own but that's not the part that costs money um and thank you

01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:54.239
everyone for playing and thanks for you know watching the live stream yay so I'm

01:16:52.480 --> 01:16:57.199
glad I didn't forget about that and I'll come up with I Instead of trying to

01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:01.520
think of questions on the spot next week, I will uh I will come up with uh I

01:17:00.400 --> 01:17:05.199
will come up with questions ahead of time. I had totally forgotten about it.

01:17:03.679 --> 01:17:07.679
Lus, I know you have a motorbike. I have an SV

01:17:08.440 --> 01:17:14.159
650S. Okay. Blah blah blah blah blah

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:19.040
blah blah. Yeah, Dan, you were after you were after the other guy. Okay. Better

01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:22.149
luck next week, Dan. I'm sorry.

01:17:23.400 --> 01:17:26.400
Uh,

01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:32.000
okay guys, remember this is just for

01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:40.520
fun. Just for fun, everyone. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. Jeff Ryan, tweet at

01:17:37.440 --> 01:17:43.360
me so that I know that it's the right

01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:48.080
person. Tam TechTV is not stealing Windows 8 copies. Geez, whatever

01:17:46.400 --> 01:17:54.000
happened to the Cougar power supply? I still use it on one of my test benches.

01:17:50.480 --> 01:17:57.159
4 gig 670 or 2 gig 680. 4 gig 670 for

01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:59.920
high-res, so above 1080p. 2 gig 680 for

01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:04.239
1080p. Cooler Master Iceberg hopefully coming soon you

01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:07.440
guys. Um, I work out of the head office

01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:10.400
in Richmond, not the Aberdine store.

01:18:07.440 --> 01:18:14.000
Head office, different thing. If my primary monitor is 120 Hz, can I

01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:19.280
duplicate my screen at lower hertz? Yes, you can. No problems at all. thinking

01:18:16.719 --> 01:18:22.560
about getting a G75 or a GT70. Which is better? Honestly, for me, gaming

01:18:21.120 --> 01:18:26.320
notebooks come down to spec, especially when you compare two solid brands like

01:18:24.480 --> 01:18:31.280
ASUS and MSI. They're both good notebooks. Buy whichever one is slightly

01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:36.320
faster or is on promo or whatever else. What do I think of a Roseill 550 watt

01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:40.640
power supply? Who cares? No offense if Paul's

01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:45.840
watching. Uh, is there going to be another tech in 2013? Potentially. I

01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:49.760
don't know of any plans for a specific date or anything like that, but Viet

01:18:48.480 --> 01:18:54.120
says, "I never see my tweets on your live stream." I'm sure glad that you

01:18:51.840 --> 01:19:00.719
wasted your tweet uh telling me that. I'm sure you're glad,

01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:04.080
too. All right, let's go ahead and uh scroll back up here and see if we got

01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:08.960
any more tweets. Thanks for bearing with me on the whole just Q&A style video

01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:13.920
tonight, you guys. I know it might not have been as interesting as having Slick

01:19:11.440 --> 01:19:21.880
U hosting with me, but like I said, he is he is

01:19:16.040 --> 01:19:21.880
super he is super uh super sick. So

01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:30.640
um here we go. Live stream topics. Ah

01:19:28.480 --> 01:19:35.800
yes, this was a good question. I had someone uh tweet twitter me, tweet me,

01:19:33.440 --> 01:19:43.040
tweet me asking why is it that my graphics card has

01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:43.800
GDDR5 and my computer system does not

01:19:43.040 --> 01:19:48.640
use GDDR5. So a couple different things.

01:19:46.080 --> 01:19:53.840
Number one is graphics memory has a completely different set of requirements

01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:55.679
from desktop PC memory. So this one is

01:19:53.840 --> 01:20:01.199
just sort of my general understanding, but I my understanding is that PC

01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:05.120
desktop memory has to have a higher degree of accuracy, a higher degree of

01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:09.040
precision than something like graphics memory. If a mistake is made on a

01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:13.840
graphics card and there's some kind of a bit flipped or whatever else goes wrong,

01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:17.840
it is maybe you have a pixel that's discolored. Whereas if it happens with

01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:21.280
your system memory and something critical in the OS was happening there,

01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:27.199
the whole thing goes down. So there's that. Number two is graphics memory has

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:28.800
always been kind of ahead of of desktop

01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:33.120
memory because you don't have to deal with a socketed slot. So because you can

01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:37.520
solder it right to the board, it interfaces much more directly. The line

01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:40.960
the traces are cleaner. You have fewer points of failure. So that's all good.

01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:45.360
Can run at much higher clock speeds and it is optimized for bandwidth.

01:20:43.040 --> 01:20:49.120
Bandwidth. Bandwidth. Bandwidth. Remember guys, bandwidth and latency are

01:20:47.120 --> 01:20:54.480
not the same thing. Turning clock speeds up can improve both of them. But if you

01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:58.320
need to push through like shed loads of data, then you build yourself a

01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:01.679
completely custom memory interface. That's another thing is the memory

01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:05.520
interfaces required for these kinds of more advanced memory are not available

01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:09.520
on the desktop yet. You build yourself a super wide memory interface. You solder

01:21:07.679 --> 01:21:14.640
chips directly to your board and then you clock them to high hell and back and

01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:19.280
you will get a ton of bandwidth. They've also optimized GDDR which is different

01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:25.280
from DDR. They've optimized GDDR memory for not necessarily great latencies, but

01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:26.960
for fantastic throughput. So that means

01:21:25.280 --> 01:21:29.760
that if you have to draw a complex scene or you have to store a bunch of textures

01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:33.920
in it and get them out really really fast to draw scenes on the screen, it's

01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:39.600
great for that. However, if it was something where you know you get um I

01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:44.480
Okay, sorry my my brain's kind of tired. It's been a long week. um something

01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:49.280
where you need to reach just one bit of data very very fast, lower latency is

01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:52.639
better. And as we move towards sort of higher and higher frequencies and more

01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:57.280
and more bandwidth, latencies are actually getting worse as opposed to

01:21:54.320 --> 01:22:00.880
getting better. DDR3 has more latency than DDR2, but it's compensated for by

01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:04.639
better integrated memory controllers and all that stuff. So, we just need to wait

01:22:02.639 --> 01:22:08.960
for the desktop to catch up. We also don't really need the bandwidth on the

01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:12.800
desktop. I can't think of many scenarios where the desktop actually even benefits

01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:16.960
from going from dual channel to quad channel. I mean, look it up, guys.

01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:20.440
There's not a lot of benefit and we're literally doubling the bandwidth, which

01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:25.120
is all you're going to do by adding GDDR5 to to a desktop machine. So, I

01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:30.199
hope that sort of answers the question. I don't think I got that across as

01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:34.920
clearly as I was hoping, but uh there you go.

01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:44.400
Okay. Oh, yeah. And anyone who's emailing me saying that they won when

01:22:42.320 --> 01:22:50.760
actually they didn't won and they're and I'm not going to be verifying them, like

01:22:46.639 --> 01:22:54.320
seriously, grow up.

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:54.320
Um, live stream

01:22:57.400 --> 01:23:04.080
topic. Oh, here's a cool one. Oh, yeah.

01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:06.960
So Samsung just acquired Envel or Envo

01:23:04.080 --> 01:23:13.280
or Nve. So those are the guys who do the dataex caching software that's in use in

01:23:09.280 --> 01:23:16.159
products like the uh Corair. Oh shoot,

01:23:13.280 --> 01:23:19.600
what is it? Whatever the OCZ Synapse, so caching solution, the Crucial

01:23:17.440 --> 01:23:23.520
Adrenaline, and the Oh, see now I want to now I want to remember

01:23:21.320 --> 01:23:29.040
Corsair. Ah crap, I can't remember what it's called, but they're caching SSD.

01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:31.199
Um, so those guys do basically there's

01:23:29.040 --> 01:23:34.480
nothing special about a Synapse SSD. It's just an SSD. There's nothing

01:23:33.120 --> 01:23:37.920
special about an Adrenaline. It's just an M4. That's all it is. It's got a

01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:42.719
special firmware. It comes with a key for the Datallex software. So the

01:23:39.679 --> 01:23:44.320
Datalex software is dynamically loading

01:23:42.719 --> 01:23:49.760
your most frequently used data into an SSD off of a hard drive so that you can

01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:51.679
get basically SSD speeds off of the data

01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:56.639
that you access the most. and then you can fall back on the hard drive for mass

01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:58.560
storage when things sort of overflow

01:23:56.639 --> 01:24:04.199
from the SSD. It doesn't have the same kinds of limitations as something like

01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:06.880
Intel's SRT, smart response technology

01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:11.760
um because it doesn't limit you to only a 64 gig SSD or less, which is really

01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:18.000
cool. But oh yeah, and it doesn't lock you down to a Z68 or Z77 platform, which

01:24:14.400 --> 01:24:19.920
is also cool. But now that Samsung owns

01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:24.159
it, I think it's going to be very interesting time for the overall SSD

01:24:22.080 --> 01:24:28.800
caching market. It it's not something that's really taken off. I mean, it's

01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:33.360
the kind of thing where consumers, they don't trust it. But then you put a

01:24:30.639 --> 01:24:36.880
laptop that has even like a 16 gig or 32 gig SSD cache in it in a consumer's

01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:42.400
hands and you tell them it has a hard drive, they kind of go, "Oh yeah, this is like way faster. This is way better."

01:24:40.320 --> 01:24:46.239
So yeah, I'm not sure how that affects guys like uh guys like an OCZ who are

01:24:44.480 --> 01:24:51.040
licensing the software, but I can tell you right now it's very exciting for

01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:55.040
someone like Samsung. I mean, remember Samsung spun off their hard drive

01:24:53.199 --> 01:25:00.800
business to I believe it was Seagate, although I really hope I'm not wrong

01:24:56.400 --> 01:25:02.320
about that. So Samsung designs and fabs

01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:07.360
nan flash and controllers. They're they're an SSD builder. They're

01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:12.239
affiliated with a hard drive builder that's already been pushing

01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:16.400
the boundaries on integrated, you know, SSD caching solutions on consumer hard

01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:21.360
drives with the Momentous XT line. And all of a sudden, they've got this new

01:25:18.400 --> 01:25:23.920
software sort of and these these new staff. They're keeping all the staff, so

01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:28.080
they're keeping the company intact. They've got this fresh blood coming in

01:25:26.080 --> 01:25:30.960
that might be able to help everyone have better ways to integrate all these

01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:35.199
things together. So, I personally believe SSD caching is going to be huge

01:25:33.360 --> 01:25:37.840
for the future and I'm really really excited to see what comes out of it, but

01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:41.360
I don't know what it means in terms of the competitive landscape. So, I would

01:25:39.679 --> 01:25:44.880
worry a little bit about that. So, that's someone I that's something I had

01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:48.639
someone ask me about. Trying to decide between iPad and Surface. What do I

01:25:47.120 --> 01:25:51.760
think about RT? Should I wait for the Pro? Pro is going to run hotter. It's

01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:57.120
going to have less battery life by about half, which kind of kills the whole

01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:59.760
tablet experience for me. Um, if I was

01:25:57.120 --> 01:26:02.960
buying a tablet tomorrow, depends. If it's an entertainment device, if I'm

01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:08.480
just going to play games on it and I'm going to watch movies, I'd probably get an iPad. If I'm actually going to try

01:26:06.480 --> 01:26:13.040
and do any work on it, Surface, hands down. Surface RT

01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:15.679
done. For the giveaway, you should think about random tech questions because

01:26:14.480 --> 01:26:20.800
everyone is going to study Windows questions. That's fine. Go study Windows questions. You'll have a better chance

01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:24.000
to win. It's good. Uh, what do you think of the Kraken as a closed loop cooler

01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:27.679
compared to the H100i? I will be testing it soon and I will let you guys know.

01:26:25.440 --> 01:26:32.560
I'm also planning to put myself together like a a pretty inexpensive uh custom

01:26:30.719 --> 01:26:37.120
water cooling loop and throw that in there just to see how much further ahead

01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:39.840
it is versus something like an H100i. I'm not expecting it to be that

01:26:38.320 --> 01:26:42.360
different because we're mostly radiator limited when you only have a dual 120

01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:49.320
mil rad. Do I ever try what? Kihi with feta

01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:53.440
cheese. No, I think you mean

01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:56.480
Kiwi A65400 K or A105800 K for general

01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:58.480
gaming performance. Eh, both of those

01:26:56.480 --> 01:27:04.159
are pretty meh. If you want to actually game, then get like a, you know, an

01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:07.239
FX4100 and a video card. Um, if you want

01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:10.080
to run onboard, then I'd get the A10

01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:13.560
probably. Happy New Year's. Not yet. Not yet, but it will be New Year's before I

01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:18.480
have another live stream. So, there you go. You know what? I think that's pretty

01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:22.159
much all I can do for tonight, guys. I had forgotten how hard this is to do

01:27:20.080 --> 01:27:26.239
without a co-host. So, thank you all for tuning in. And don't forget, we do live

01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:29.360
streams on Friday nights, my time at 9:00. And don't forget to subscribe to

01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:32.360
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01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:37.600
videos and cats and Twinkies and Oh, wait. I forgot. No,

01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:44.639
no, there's one more thing I have to do tonight. So you guys can stick around for it or not, but the AR drone video

01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:50.159
that I posted over a year ago with the AR drone

01:27:46.040 --> 01:27:53.520
1 has officially got more than 1 million

01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:58.440
views on YouTube, which means that the

01:27:53.520 --> 01:28:02.199
AR drone itself has earned a place

01:27:58.440 --> 01:28:05.840
on the wall of legends.

01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:09.520
And I hate putting these hooks up in

01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:11.199
front of you all because last time I had

01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:16.880
some problems and then y'all made fun of me. But I'm going to do it anyway

01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:20.800
without a spotter this time. So, you know, things are going to get things are

01:28:18.719 --> 01:28:25.679
going to get pretty real before this is over. Pretty real, pretty dangerous. So,

01:28:23.360 --> 01:28:31.440
let's go ahead and find a nice place to put the AR drone V1. So, that's my

01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:36.880
second video. the only one on the Linus Tech Tips channel that's gotten over a

01:28:34.080 --> 01:28:40.960
million views on the YouTubes. So, that's very very exciting for us

01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:44.719
YouTubers. We're we're into the whole like views thing. That makes us pretty

01:28:42.639 --> 01:28:51.239
happy. So, let's go ahead and hang it kind of here, which means I'm going to

01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:53.920
need to put a thing in sort of here.

01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:57.360
Okay, I'm not doing any more Q&A for the rest of the night. So, if you guys are

01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:03.040
if you guys find this boring, then feel free to tune out.

01:29:00.639 --> 01:29:07.280
Okay. Yes, I know these hooks are a bad solution. Yes, I know they're destroying

01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:10.400
my pegboard, but I'm committed to it now. So, here we

01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:17.520
go. You can never say

01:29:14.120 --> 01:29:20.800
that I'm not committed to ideas, even if

01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:22.760
they're bad, once I commit to them. I

01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:27.360
would never have that said about me. They're really hard to put in

01:29:25.040 --> 01:29:31.440
because it just starts picking up the uh the pegboard.

01:29:29.280 --> 01:29:38.880
rather than just sort of going into the wall nicely. So there you go. Hook

01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:41.719
one for the AR drone. And then hook two

01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:46.280
will go probably right about here. Right

01:29:43.639 --> 01:29:53.199
about maybe maybe let's go. Let's go there. Okay.

01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:56.199
It's going to go right there. Where's my duck?

01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:05.120
Thank you guys. Without you, I obviously can't get a million views on anything,

01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:10.239
so I appreciate that. You got to be kidding me. Did I hit a stud

01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:12.719
again? I realized that's why I was having so much trouble with that other

01:30:11.440 --> 01:30:15.360
one last time. Oh, no. I don't think I did. I think it's

01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:23.600
okay. I had someone at work bugging me about these hooks the next day after I

01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:29.639
did my first hook hanging thing where I put up this video card.

01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:32.480
You know what? Whatever you

01:30:29.639 --> 01:30:35.679
guys. All right, there we go. Parad Drone. You haven't even been able to see

01:30:34.400 --> 01:30:42.080
any of this the whole time. I just realized that. Parad Drone has been

01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:44.360
added to the legendary wall with the

01:30:42.080 --> 01:30:49.520
video card that also has a million views, the air drone with a million

01:30:46.639 --> 01:30:53.000
views, and the axe, which oh, I mean, zombies, right? You never know when

01:30:51.440 --> 01:30:57.360
you're going to need an axe. Especially in Canada, I might have

01:30:55.440 --> 01:31:00.679
to like chop down some trees and stuff. Good night, everyone.