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And welcome to the live show tonight, guys. I am the only one here and uh

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well, I'm not the only one here. I'm one of two people here, but I'm the only one

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who is who is physically able to sit and

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do a live stream tonight. Slick's not feeling well. He's actually been sick

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for the last week while he's been working on getting the forum up and

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running. So the forum is working on a

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local machine right now. Um he's played around with we're using vbolitin connect

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5. So you know it's beta right now.

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There's not a lot of support for it. There's some some tricky stuff. And uh

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so he's still getting some bugs figured out. We still got to figure out how to

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actually get it launched, whether we're paying for hosting or whether we're going to see if we can host it somewhere

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else for now. Um, so we've got we've got all of that to figure out and then uh

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we're pretty much ready to go. One thing I can promise is it will be up

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before CES because the forum is our

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brilliant plan to have uh to have all of

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the content that we're producing, all of the videos that we're making while we're

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at the show be sort of accompanied by little articles and maybe some pictures

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to go along with it and all that kind of stuff. I mean, we're going to have a whole team there. It'll be me, Slick,

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Diesel, and um an assistant to sort of

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like carry bags and stuff. Actually, you know what? Here, why don't we start with

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this? I'm going to check this out, guys. I'll be back in one moment. And Slick

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can't entertain you while I'm gone,

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unfortunately. Check this out. So, I did an unboxing of my Pelican case that I

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that I purchased for myself for the FS700. Also, the lights are a little

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bright. Hold on. Let me just play with these a little bit. Let's dim these

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babies. All right. What's the point of

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getting baller lights if you can't, you know, turn them

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down. There we go. Let's see if that helps. Whoa. Yeah, that was not qu Okay.

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See, the skin tones are better, but that was not not quite the desired effect

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there. Let's try uh let's try cranking these back up. I did turn off a couple

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of the other lights.

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Okay, you know what? O, whatever. Okay, good enough.

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Ah, Pelican case. So, if you guys saw my

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unboxing, um, I got this for the FS700 camera, which is not the one that I'm

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using for a lot of people, a lot of people complain about the image quality

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of the $8,000 camera, but what they don't realize is we don't use the $8,000

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camera for everything. In fact, the $8,000 camera is intended only for

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certain projects. So, check this out, guys. Pelican cases are freaking

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awesome. All these little foamy pieces here actually can come out in little

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rectangular prisms, to use the correct word, or little squares, if I was going

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to be more colloquial. Come out and they're about this long. There's two

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full layers. And with it, you can pack all your sweet gear. So, I got my road

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mic, which I've been informed is not pronounced road because it's like a Danish word or something, but whatever.

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Uh, so I got my road mic, got my FS700, got spot for my

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lens, got spots for maybe a couple more lenses over here. So, this is what is

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going to keep the camera safe, and I'm super super thrilled with

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it. Seems like the kind of thing that uh

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nothing can go wrong if you throw your camera in a Pelican. It's even

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waterproof for like 30 minutes or something along those lines. So, that's

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pretty cool. Uh, right. So, we're going to have a whole crew there. So, I'm

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hoping to really sort of change the way that Lionus Tech Tips presents video.

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So, not just uploading to YouTube, but I also want there to be a little bit of

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accompanying text. Just sort of maybe some editorial that's not necessarily in

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the video itself. Maybe some some, you know, pictures of close-ups or things

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that we perhaps missed while we were filming the video. That's the kind of

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thing that's really easy for us to be like, "Oh crap." You know, take a couple pictures, make sure that goes up with

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the article. So, I'd love to get your feedback. Do you guys want to see a few

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different things? Do you want to see like um sort I mean okay when I read a

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review basically I read introduction conclusion and then I see if it won any

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kind of award. So that's the concept. Do you guys want to see that? Just a little

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text blurb then a video little text blurb and then like you know maybe some

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kind of a rating in terms of value performance or or whatever other metrics

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that you want to see. So, let's do some Twitter because I don't have a ton of

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topics prepared and I especially don't have anyone to sit and entertain the

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audience while I'm sort of going and doing other things. So, let's have some

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interaction. Slick is sick, Zoomass, and I'm very sorry for that. For those of

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you who have been telling me to kick him off the show, then you'll be pleased

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that he's not here tonight. But that's very few of you. I think for the most

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part, you guys enjoy Slick's

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contributions. All right. Having

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examined less than an hour. Oh, I'm sorry you can't make it, Edwin, but good

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luck. Woke up to watch from Iceland. Awesome. Gotta love Pelican. Yes. Been

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waiting six hours. See, I often see this. People are

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sitting in Twitch like waiting for the live stream to start, like hours and

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hours before it starts. Guys, it's at 900 p.m. my time every week. Although, I

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will be changing the time soon. I've had a lot of people ask me about the times

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for the live live show. Am I planning to change it? Yes, I'm planning to change

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it. Um, sometime in the new year, it will change. Good question. Andrew R

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Express connector? Are they interchangeable?" I would love to

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address this by grabbing

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myself. Not by grabbing myself, by grabbing a connector to show you guys

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exactly what the difference is between them. So, let me just see if I can get

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this test bench detachated here. Yeah,

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there's a PCIe. Yeah, good. There's an EPS. So

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EPS8 pin is often also referred to as just CPU 8 pin or even ATX8 pin which

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isn't technically correct but I mean you can't stop people from using terminology

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that they're more that they're more familiar with when it was first introduced uh in the P4 era. It was

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called the uh the P4 connector as well. So that's another really common

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terminology for it. So I'm going to show you guys exactly what the difference is

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between these connectors. I hope the autofocus is okay on this camera. So,

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uh, this guy right here, that is an 8pin

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CPU. So, an 8 pin is just an evolution

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of a four pin. And the four pin, uh,

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there we go, is two 12vt wires, which are colorcoded, see, hold on, I'm going

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to move that. Two 12vt wires, which are colorcoded yellow or on some power

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supplies, they've removed the color coding just in favor of aesthetics. And

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then two ground wires. So, those go out to your power supply. Those provide

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power just to your CPU. That's all they

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do. They do not go anywhere else. They do not share because this standard was

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introduced when Intel was really pushing

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the envelope in terms of how much heat output a CPU

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uh was. Sorry, I'm having a really hard time putting this back. Yeah. How much

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heat output CPUs were producing as well as how much power they were consuming.

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itself that ran power just to the CPU. PCI Express is a different standard. So

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you can see the six pin PCIe which was the first connector we had for uh PCI

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Express cards is three 12 volts and

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three grounds. Okay. The Apin standard

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doesn't actually add another circuit loop to it. It only adds two more ground

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connectors. So, we are actually still relying, let's see if I can get it to

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focus. See, two more ground connectors. We are actually still relying on those

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three yellow ones there to provide one

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side. And then we've got five grounds to carry. Like, I don't actually quite

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understand how two more ground pins changes how much power, how much current

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it can carry, but apparently somehow it does. So anyway, the point is no,

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they're not the same because this has four 12 volts and four grounds and this

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has three 12 volts and five grounds. They're also keyed differently. So what

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the Here. Hold on. I'm going to see if I can uh see if I can get you guys a good

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look at this. This is really important when you're putting together your computer because if you do this wrong,

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it'll cause big problems for you. There we go. So, the actual shape of the

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plastic housings around the pins are

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different. And you can also see that the eight pin Oh, I'm probably talking

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really loud. You can see that the eight pin here has a bridge between these two

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that actually prevents it from being inserted into an 8 pin on the uh

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motherboard. So, there you go. That is the difference. Good question between

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EPS 8 pin and PCI Express 8 pin. I'm

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going to jump up to the top just to make sure that uh there aren't any audio

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issues or anything that I'm not aware of. Okay. I heard that the Noctua NF12s

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are only good for push and not for pull. No, that's not true at all. A fan with

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good static pressure has good static pressure. That's it. That means that

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it's good at scooping air from the one side of it and it's good at pushing air

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to the other side of it. What that person might have been thinking of is

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that the F12s are optimized for directed

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air flow, much like Silverstone Air Penetrator 121s. So, if you're using

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them as a case fan, say for example, in the front of your case, and you want to

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be cooling that video card that's like way over there, an F12 will be very

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effective for pushing air towards that video card because it creates like a

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funnel of air that moves in one direction without just being randomly

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dispersed. So, they're excellent for pushing air, but that doesn't change the

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fact that they're just a well optimized high-pressure fan, and they're great for

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push or pull if you're using them on a heat sink or on a

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radiator. Uh, oh, will you be doing more

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audio related unboxings, something like HD800s or some speakers? I've done the

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HD800s, believe it or not. Um, honestly,

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the sort of price to performance that

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comes along with those super premium audio products, I think it's wasted on

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me a little bit. I mean, I was listening to Flax and I we had

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HD555s, HD 595s, HD800's, as well as

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some gaming headsets. And Slick and I were using the ASUS Essence One, which

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is not a super high-end DACK or amp by any stretch of the imagination. I mean,

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those will go into tens of thousands of dollars, guys. So, yes, it's like a $500

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audio product, but it's not really

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qualified to drive something like HD800's. Um, and I found that once you

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get like HD555 to HD595 is noticeable,

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but that was only about a $100 price delta back when those were current

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products, where something like an HD800 costs several times what an HD595 was.

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However, from a 555 to a 595 felt like

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about the same kind of a jump as from a 595 to an 800. Hard to say whether

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that's just us or whether that's correct. Um because we didn't really

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have the kind of amp we'd need to drive it. But and neither of us really have

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like golden ears. But um I mean I appreciate good audio, but something

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like an 800 is pretty pretty overkill for me. I also found them a little bit

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um almost too big on my head. So, that's

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just a minor complaint, I guess. But if I was paying, you know, that much for

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headphones, couple grand for headphones, I'd want them to feel like awesome,

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comfortable. Uh, what camera am I using for the live stream? Please tweet back

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because I've got to go now. Test

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tester. All right, fine. Why not? X A

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know what? Sorry, man. That's not going to work because I have my uh I have my

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number my number signs bound to my different camera stuff. So, yeah, that

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won't work. All right. Opinions on OCZT power supplies. Have you had much

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experience with them? Yeah, I've used one on a test bench for a while. Uh nothing bad to say. I mean, they're an

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80 plus bronze fully modular power supply. They're a good deal. I'm here,

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says Aaron. Hello, Aaron. Lionus, have you heard about the AMD 7870 XT?

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to the Falcon Northwest Tiki? Uh, neither of them seems particularly

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relevant because these days I really can't think of a good reason to buy a

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boutique machine. Um, what are you I

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guess here's the question. You We have to do like a PC buyer guide

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at some point, I think. you know, just like an ultimate bible on buying a PC

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and sort of teach people how to do the analysis of what they're paying for with

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someone like a a boutique builder like a Falcon Northwest. Okay. If you're going

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to pay them to paint your case and you really like the design and you're going

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to do that stuff, okay, okay, you want

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to drop a couple G's on a case, you know what? Fine. Fine. That's fine. Now, my

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TJ07 at this point, and those of you who are going to tell me to change it, I'm

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not changing it, was a present from my wife, and it's my favorite case ever. I

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don't want a different case. Here, right there, for those of you telling me, "Get

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a TJ11."

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That is a TJ11. I don't care. I'm not

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using it. I'm using the TJ07. Um, so anyway, yeah, if you really like their

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case and you really really want them to paint it, you love their design, then

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that's cool. That's fine. But if you're just getting them to do like a normal

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computer, why what do they do that and I

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mean, yeah, I I work at NCIX and that's all fine, so obviously I'm a little

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biased, but what do they do that someone like NCIX doesn't for 50 bucks and why

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are they charging you an extra $500 to $800 for it? I mean, even someone like

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Main Gear, who I'd hardly consider to be boutique, like they're they're a system

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integrator and they build like great gaming systems and all that stuff, but I

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mean, they're not, you know, running with guys like, you know, formerly

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Voodoo or or Falcon. Like, let's just be

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honest with ourselves. Um, even Main Gear, I think back when we launched one

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of our PC systems, I compared the price for the exact same spec just for LS and

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I think it was about a $600, $700 difference. I'm like, where is this

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money going? I don't understand. Building a computer is not rocket science. Um, I've even had people I mean

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this same thing. I've had people ask me, "Linus, will you build my computer for

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me?" And I told the guy something ridiculous like uh $500 or $300 or

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something for me to build it. And uh he's like, "Okay." I'm like, "What?

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What? Why? I've done guides. I've shown

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you guys how to build your own computers. Um, I mean here, just for the

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sake of making sure that I'm not, you know, completely, you know, missing the point

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of all this, I'll I'll look up these computers, but I suspect they're just

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sort of like kind of neat, keen, small form

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factor machines or something like that.

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Uh, Falcon uses uh often

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custom Silverstone cases, so it's

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probably like a customized TJO or SGO3

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or whatever it's called. I don't remember. Something 03 FTO3 or something

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like that. This is just my guess. Oh no. What is this thing? 4 in wide. Something

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something. The world's most powerful micro tower. Yeah, it's one of the best

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boutique computers on the market today. Here, you guys can uh you guys can see

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what I'm seeing here if you want. We are researching before we before we go on a

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tirade about boutique builders and how it's pointless. So, what can you put in

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here? GTX. What? GeForce GTX 6 series

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graphics card.

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Uh, okay. What What GeForce GTX 6 series

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graphics card? Build your Tiki. Doesn't say. My

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guess would be they could probably cram a 670 in there. I mean, I guess I still

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just don't see the point. Build yourself an FTO3

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mini and paint

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it. I can't even find. Oh, here we go. Configure a tiki. Let's shop together,

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shall we? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Configure a

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falcon. Sure. I met the owner of Falcon last

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year, actually. Super nice guy, in case anyone

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cares. There we go. World's most powerful micro tower. Configure a tiki.

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So, at least these guys have a custom chassis going for them, which a lot of

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those builder guys don't. What do we want for this thing? 1,700 bucks. And

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we've got, what do we have so far? We have a chassis. We have a chassis logo

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insert. We have a chassis base. We have a 450 watt SFX power supply. So, that's

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that Silverstone power supply. So, you want to price this out. Go ahead. Price

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it out. Silverstone power supply. PAZ77i. Oh, okay. Well, we need a 3570K

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at the very least. How do I change it? Yeah. Add component. There we go. 56

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bucks. Wow. Their builder has gotten a lot more advanced since the last time I

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looked at it. Okay, they got a liquid cooler in there. They got some 2x4 gig.

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How much do they want? Seriously, they want $78. Okay, this is where See, this

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is where you run into trouble.

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ncix.com. Okay, let's find out what a 2 by8 gig memory kit actually costs. So,

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what is this? 1866 memory. Not that it

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matters. It really doesn't make that much difference to performance. But just for lols. Oh no, I can't type in

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numbers. Oh wait, I can use this one.

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1866. Uh, and that was a

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60. Wrong scene. There we go. Sorry

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guys. It's really inconvenient having my number keys bound this way. So a 16 gig

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1866 kit costs what? I don't know, 97

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bucks, 95 bucks, 120 bucks. So, well,

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okay. Okay, that's not so bad. That's not as bad as I

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thought. Who knows? I might be able Oh, GTX 650. I might be a believer by the

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end of this. $300 additional for a 670. Okay, that

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doesn't look that good.

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And of course, I hate doing this.

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670. Yeah. Okay. So, you can get a 670 for like

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$289.99. So, there's a bit of margin there. Sound cards probably on board.

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Yeah. Networking's on board. So, I guess

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guys, it comes down to personal choice. Would I pay more for something like a

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Tiki? Probably not. I mean, there's shuttles out there. There's FTO3 Mini

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out there. There's a lot of different solutions out there. Something like a

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Bit Phoenix Prodigy isn't as small, but has a lot of cool factor going for it as

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well. But I'm not the intended audience. So, if you have an appreciation for

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guys, make no mistake, the amount of work and the amount of money that it

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takes to produce a custom chassis as a system builder, if you have an

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appreciation for that and it's like not easy, then go for it. you know, you want

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something that's a prestige piece, then go for it. Otherwise, personally, I'd

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build my own machine. Um, as for the digital storm bolt, I don't know.

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Depends how bored you guys are of this topic, but I could probably at least

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find out what it is. Digital. Hate this keyboard. Well, I

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don't hate this keyboard. It's just not

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ideal. Digital storm bolt.

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Enter. Yeah, I meant digital stormbbolt. Got my got my typo going on

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here. Okay, so that is what the heck is this

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thing? Okay, that's kind of neat machine as

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well. I don't know. I don't know. What do you want me to

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say? What kind of video card do they have in here? as long as they've got

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options to put decent video cards in. I mean, that's something else to consider, guys, too. Is if you configure your own

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Oh, they've got a 650 Ti in there. So, yeah, that's not bad. What kind of

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upgrade options do they

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have? Where are the upgrade options? I don't know. Okay, not going

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to worry about this too much anymore because I'm bored.

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Um, yeah, if you like it, buy it, I

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guess. Moving right along. Oh, I think

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I've got my uh camera pointed a little high

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here. Yeah, I'm impressed actually. Both of those machines look really cool. Do

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you wish Canada and the US had better travel relations on border checks like

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the EU? Um, no. I don't know. Doesn't seem like

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that big of a deal to show a

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passport. Is this moving? I think it's

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moving. No wonder I'm having trouble.

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All right. Is it true that the most expensive graphics card is not the best

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graphics card? Good question. It is true that the most expensive graphics

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solution is not necessarily the best graphics solution. GTX 690 quad SLI is

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the most expensive graphics card solution uh before you start getting

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into sort of quad 680s. Um, however, I

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would say that defining something as best is not as simple as does it perform

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the best because it will perform the best in many scenarios, but there will

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be ones where its performance consistency is not very good because

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quad SLI doesn't scale the same way that a single card or dual SLI or even triple

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SLI does. So, if I were to look at it

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from a perspective of, okay, am I getting the best gaming solution there,

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gaming solution by getting uh quad 680s

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or dual 690s? I would go, well, hard to

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say because it's going to get hot. It's going to potentially get loud,

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especially if you have fans sandwiched up against each other. Uh, it's not

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necessarily going to scale in every game or every scenario. And you might even

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run into weird bugs where you got to turn your setting, turn your SLI off in

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order to even get your machine to run a particular game, especially weird

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obscure stuff that doesn't really get the same kind of QA put into it as other

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things. So, I would say instead of buying four 680s, which will give you

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the highest FPS, I would do something like buy two 680s and then like a wicked

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sound card and an awesome like, I don't

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know, something else RAID card and throw some SSDs on it. I mean, there's lots of

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better things you can spend your budget on than three or four graphics cards.

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So, there you have it. My take on that

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question. Does the speed of the pump affect the performance of a water

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cooling loop? Uh, yes, but not as much as most people seem to think. Uh it

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does yeah it does affect the flow rate having the pump spin faster and the

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water moves faster but once you're past a certain point uh the returns that you

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get for speeding up the water diminish very very very sharply. I mean in a

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custom loop running dual graphics cards and a CPU, two radiators using a D5. So

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with it cranked to five I'm within one degree of turning it all the way down to

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one. And I would say for the noise

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difference, I'll take that. I'll throw away that one degree. No problem.

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Lionus, I'm the guy who wanted the autograph with the Razer Kraken Pros.

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Hi, Liam. That is a great profile picture you've got yourself there. My

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friend bought an alien wear a laptop for about 2,000. It was

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3,000. It's 16 gigs fast. We shouldn't

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laugh at them. We should help them. Any comments on the 840 Pro SSD? No unboxing

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um right now. I'm hoping to get my hands on one soon. Benchmarks wise, there's

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lots of benchmarks out there. It's basically the ruler of the roost. It's

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right up there with the OCZ Vector. Those two would be kind of the the kings

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of the castle right now. So that uh that's pretty much my take on

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it on it. Best

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nonommon Cherry MX switch. I don't know.

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That's a very strange question, Bob. I don't understand why you'd ask that

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question. Um I actually haven't used clears. I haven't used uh anything other

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than blue, brown, red, black. So, sorry.

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I guess I can't really answer that one. Talk about the Sandia cooler.

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Sandia cooler. So, this is something that people are pretty excited about

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right about now. So, I'm going to go ahead and show those of you who aren't

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familiar with it. Sandia

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cooler. There we go. Here we go. This is

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what this is all about. So, it's a cooler that instead of spinning a fan on

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top of a heat sink, takes a heat sink and spins it around like a fan. So,

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promises 30 times better CPU cooling, blah blah blah. They're making a lot of

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claims about it. Apparently, the way that the top heatsink spins is by having

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a like a micro micro thin layer, like a

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cushion of air between this bottom layer here that interfac

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uh interfaces directly with the CPU and

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then this spinning part on top that still allows optimal heat transfer as if

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it wasn't even there. And then because of the way the blades are optimized,

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they throw air out. I believe it spins

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this way. So, it chucks air out of the heat

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sink, making it very, very, very efficient or something. Um, I've had a

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lot of people ask me about what I think about it. There you go. Sandia cooler.

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Hold on, let me turn that volume down. Oh, yeah. This should be

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okay. Oh, it's a long video. Boo. Long

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video. Boo. Where is it running?

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show us up close. Okay, whatever. Forget

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that video. Um, so people have asked me about it a lot.

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I know that there's one PC heatsink guy that's licensed it already, so we're

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going to see a product based on this, but I guess Yeah, here we go. It spins

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at just 2,000 RPM. Only 2,000 RPM, you say? Why,

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that'll be intolerably loud. 2,000 RPM

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isn't quiet. I mean, it's possible that

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because of the way the air is moving, there's going to be less of a whoo to

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it, but I don't think I've heard a 2,000 RPM motor that doesn't have a

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significant wind to it. So, yeah, if they can and I mean that and I mean,

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we're talking a different kind of motor when you're spinning around a piece of metal. So, it'll have to actually have

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some torque to it versus if you're turning plastic. So, I'm expecting there

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to be a mechanical like a wind to it.

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Um, so yeah, it can cool better all at once. It's not going to cool better than

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water. I can tell you that now. And I'm already looking at it going, "What do you mean 30 times better than air?" How

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do you define 30 times better? I mean, we've already got air cooling heat sinks

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that'll remove 130 watts of heat from a Are you going to You're telling me we're

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going to remove 4,000 watts of heat from a CPU

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socket? So, yeah, I will believe it when

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I see it. That is my approach to the Sandia cooler. Great. Looks good. Good.

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Good in theory. Um, but let's see how the actual products do because we've

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seen this time and time again. Remember Lucid Logic's Hydra? How we were gonna

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SLI GeForce cards with Radeon cards and

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we were going to throw five cards in one system and they were all going to work together and it was going to be like

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magic. Holy crap. Yeah, that that didn't

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work. 3D Mark was I think the only application that it ever properly worked

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in. So, see how it goes. First time

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watching live. I'm glad to hear that you are tuned in. I can see that the Linus

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Tech Tips community will be awesome just by being in the Twitch chat. That is

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actually one of the reasons we fasttracked having a forum at all because the Twitch chat is so active and

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there's such good conversation going on in there. Uh normal unboxings should be

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normal. I don't know. I I don't remember what you're commenting about, Ryan. I'm

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sorry. Happy to moderate the stream chat. Been here for five hours chatting

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with cool peeps. Absolutely. Stream countdown on the

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forum. Yep. Yeah, that's not a bad It's not a bad idea at all. I noticed you

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guys are doing awesome on the whole liking videos and encouraging other

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people to like videos. Keep it up. Um the I think it makes a difference. I

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think it'll take a bit of a longer term sort of uh I think it'll take a bit of a

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longer term approach to find out how well it's working. I noticed that

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there's still a lot of videos that some of you are selectively liking or not

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liking. I noticed uh uh the one with the cat and the baby did like way better

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than uh than one of the other ones that I did that was actually a lot more work.

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The heat sink roundup using my new uh my

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new test bench here. So yeah, I mean keep it up. Do your best

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with it, guys. I think it helps. So there you go. For some reason it's black

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for me the live stream flash player. I

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don't know. How do I cheer up my friend who got a new graphics card but found

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out he has a 280 watt power supply. I don't know. It is Christmas. You could

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get him a new power supply and it doesn't

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suck. All right. Totally stopped scripting to watch. Excellent. And I

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can't figure out how to move this around. All right. Let's do some more

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Q&A. See what Oh my goodness. 254 new

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interactions. Good morning from Denmark indeed. What do you think of the Cooler

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Master Quickfire TK keyboard with the arrow keys and number pad integrated? I

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actually did an unboxing of this one uh last week, two weeks ago. Really like

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it. Very cool layout for those of you who haven't seen it. I'll go grab it cuz

425
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840
it's right

426
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,279
here. Here we go. Oh, the this was

427
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:44,799
sitting with it. These are the Twinkies that uh Slick and I ate last week as

428
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:49,919
part of our live stream because I had a viewer send those in. So, we got a key

429
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:54,399
remover. got some covering on it. This is a

430
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,840
really unique keyboard because the first time I showed it to Slick, he wasn't

431
00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:02,640
familiar with the product already and he was like, "Oh yeah, it's a 10 keyless."

432
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:06,960
It is not a 10 keyless. See, it actually has a full number pad and then you just

433
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,039
switch modes. So there's number keys here. You got like your delete key, your

434
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,039
insert, your page up, your page down, and all that stuff here. So you actually

435
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:19,440
switch between number pad and then extension of normal keyboard. So, it

436
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:23,360
ends up being a super compact, super awesome, super brightly back lit

437
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,320
mechanical keyboard. This is the TK Blue. So, this has a blue backlight and

438
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:31,919
blue switches, but it's available with brown or red switches as well in white

439
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:35,600
or red back lights. Um, I think it's awesome. I think it's outstanding. I

440
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:40,080
don't know if I would use it myself because I'm not space constrained, but

441
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,279
it's especially useful for people who don't have a lot of room at their

442
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,120
computer and they want to still have a number pad because I don't know about

443
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:51,039
you guys, but I use a number pad every day. Every single day, I cannot live

444
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:57,279
without a number pad on my keyboard. Uh unless I had like a little standalone

445
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,279
keyboard and

446
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:04,000
um where was I going with that? Number pads are good, right? But because I'm

447
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:07,000
not space constrained, then I'll just assume have a normal keyboard with a

448
00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:12,720
number pad. So, I think I'll stick with my Zyo 60.

449
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:18,720
But if you want to save some room on your desk, the TK is a perfect option in

450
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:23,519
my opinion because you still get your number pad, which matters to me, as you

451
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:30,240
guys may or may not have noticed. Watching from Norway.

452
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,760
Yes. Uh, hey Lionus. My friend's PC is

453
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,240
turning on but not powering the monitor and half of the fans don't work. It's a

454
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:39,919
fresh build. What do uh could be video card, could be memory. Basically, what

455
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:45,360
you've got there is a no post situation. So, if you search on YouTube for no post

456
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,880
diagnosis, I have a video all about it.

457
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,640
First time watching in the UK, but my dad woke me up by snoring trying to type

458
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,200
quietly on Cherry MX Blues. Good luck with that, sir. Is Corsair Link worth

459
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,919
it? Um, I was talking to the Russian about

460
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,080
it and they were doing some work with Corsair Link. I actually have a Corsair

461
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:06,480
link around here somewhere. I haven't tried the actual link module. Uh the

462
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Corsair link software, just the software component that you use with something

463
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:14,399
like an H80i or an H100i is pretty neat.

464
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,679
It's fairly robust. It's I mean, bear in mind, guys, this is something that's

465
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,159
been in uh

466
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:27,840
in production software, whatever. They've been working on it for over two

467
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:32,080
years back when Coollet was still doing their own thing. Uh they were working on

468
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,919
I think they were calling it something else, but they showed this off at CES

469
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:40,240
two years ago in their booth and then when Corsair went exclusive with the

470
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,960
Coollet coolers and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. They had some

471
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:46,080
arrangement. So now Corsair I think inherited a lot of that work that Koolit

472
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:51,480
had already done. So this has been a in development. That's what I was thinking of. Has been in development for years.

473
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:55,519
So, it's very mature compared to um well, a lot of the other solutions

474
00:33:53,760 --> 00:34:01,279
out there, even something like an MCU T balancer, there's a lot more that goes

475
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:03,440
into things that seem simple like fan

476
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,360
control than you would imagine because there's all these different like even

477
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:11,919
something like something like PWM. There's all these different

478
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:16,560
implementations of PWM, which is basically instead of undervolting the

479
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:20,879
fan, running it at 12 volts, but doing it in bursts so that it doesn't spin as

480
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,720
fast. Okay, so PWM seems simple, right? No, no, no. So, that can cause all kinds

481
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:30,000
of issues. It can cause whining in the fans. It can cause fans to die. It can

482
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,599
cause it to just generally not work. It can cause all kinds of issues. So,

483
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:39,839
there's a lot that goes into it and Link is pretty mature, but does have trouble

484
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:42,000
with third party fans sometimes. And I

485
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:45,919
don't remember necessarily where I was going with that. Is it worth it? I don't

486
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,480
know. If you have an H100i, then install it. If you don't have an H100i, then

487
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:53,200
it's probably not going to do a whole lot for you. I came in late where Slick.

488
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:57,920
Slick be sick. Yo, I currently have an X79 as Extreme 9. Should I get a 3820

489
00:34:55,839 --> 00:35:02,400
now and wait for a new generation or get the 3930K? The only reason you're going

490
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:08,000
to benefit from a 3930K is if you're doing serious 3D work, not 3D games, 3D

491
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:11,359
work, or if you're doing serious like video editing, photo edit, even photo

492
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:15,720
editing. I mean, come on. Even like serious video editing or after effects

493
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:20,720
work. Um, other than that, quad core is fine. Trust me. Just joined after

494
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,960
getting home from work yet. The form will be done within probably about a

495
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:29,359
week and a half. It'll be up. I don't know if it'll be up in its final form,

496
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,079
but it'll be up. Nope. No plans for 680 amp edition unboxing. Are there any

497
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,440
MiniATX motherboards that have Thunderbolt ports yet? I believe

498
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:39,440
Gigabyte has one, but it's not available in North

499
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,520
America. What would you notice more? What would I notice more? An SSD or a

500
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:48,160
new sound card? Oo, that's tough. I'd go

501
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,560
SSD. Have you heard about photonic computing and excited about the

502
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:55,440
possibility of clock speeds near the speed of light? Yeah, we're a long way away from there, though. I'll get

503
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:59,119
excited when I can actually buy one. Should I get an i5 or an i7 for

504
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Autodesk? You know what? I don't have enough experience with CAD professional

505
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:10,880
applications to really make a judgment there. If the GPU is doing a lot of the

506
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:15,440
work, then go for the i5. If CPU still benefits and if it's heavily threaded,

507
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,440
then go for an i7. Um, yeah, it's really

508
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,599
not that much more expensive for the i7, especially if you're building a

509
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:25,680
workstation that's already going to have a high-end Quadro in it or whatever else. So, got to be your judgment call

510
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:29,280
from that for that one. Jordan asks if I bought anything from the Steam sale. No,

511
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:33,280
I have not. Although, I do have a copy of Far Cry 3 with my name on it that I'm

512
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:37,920
pretty excited to play. Next personal rig update. Actually, I can give you

513
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920
guys an update now

514
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:45,119
because it shipped today. So, hopefully

515
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,240
I'll get it back from Mountain Mods sometime early in the new year and I'll

516
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:52,480
get that built up. I'm super super excited to get it put back together. Oh,

517
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:58,000
apparently the motor on the San Die cooler turns off after it starts. Well,

518
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:01,680
I'm very very interesting or very interesting, very interested to see how

519
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,960
that works. Again, I will believe it when I see it. I'll believe it when

520
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:09,359
they've had one running for, you know, three years in a machine, you know, at

521
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,520
whatever weird angle. And uh I mean I guess one thing I kind of worry about is

522
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:17,760
when you have like a a stray wire that comes loose from a bundle and gets stuck

523
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:22,000
in a fan. It kind of goes and then the fan might stop and then your CPU over I

524
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:26,000
mean what if this thing hits it spinning around at 2,000 RPM made of a even a

525
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:31,839
light metal like aluminum? I mean what's that going to do to like a wire? I don't

526
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:35,280
know. I I not I'm not saying progress is

527
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:37,920
bad. I'm just skeptical until until I'm

528
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,839
proven otherwise. NFF12 or Silverstone air penetrator. Either is a good choice,

529
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,960
but make sure you're getting the AP-121s. There are air penetrators that

530
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,079
are not as optimized for heat sink use. What do you think about the SP2500s?

531
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:56,960
They're awesome. I'm using SP2500s myself. Love them. Two thumbs

532
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:59,839
up. Noise Nazi. Well, yes. Who does the

533
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,800
awesome NCL drawings? Uh, Tom. Tom does the awesome NCI XL drawings. He was

534
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:09,119
actually featured on one of the early episodes of NetLink Weekly, and he talks about it a fair bit.

535
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:14,400
23 minutes late. I was Oh, you were 23 minutes late. Yay, UK. Um, does NX sell

536
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,480
most PCs online or in store for people that can't buy

537
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:21,359
online? Uh, well, they sell lots of PCs online and in

538
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:27,920
store. Watching your live stream from the Philippines. Yay. Hi, Philippines.

539
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:31,920
Am I going to do an unboxing of the NZXT Kraken? Yes, it's already in the mail.

540
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:37,960
So, as soon as that arrives, I will not only unbox it,

541
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:40,400
but I will also be putting it in the

542
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:46,320
standardized this guy heatsink testing rig

543
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:48,640
with Noctua NF A14 fans because it is a

544
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:53,520
140 mm radiator. However, I got to spend some time with the A14s and the F12s

545
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:59,320
kind of, you know, fine-tuning the old ear and deciding what RPM I can run

546
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:05,920
these at that they'll be the same sound level as the F12s because that that my

547
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,839
friends is the point for me at a consistent sound level with optimized

548
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,000
fans. In this case, those are very radiator and heat sink

549
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:18,640
optimized. What is the best cooler? Because that way instead of measuring

550
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,520
the efficiency of whatever fan happens to come on whatever heat sink and

551
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:25,920
they're all running at different RPMs with different pressures etc etc etc

552
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:31,359
different noise levels we will know which heat sink is the best heat sink

553
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:35,200
with a proper fan at a noise layout level that everyone will find palatable.

554
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,040
And I know some of you don't care and that's fine. I accept that. But uh I

555
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,359
just don't think computers need to be loud. In fact, I had one person seem to

556
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:48,000
get really upset on the uh on the video where I was saying there's no need to

557
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:50,960
have a loud computer because he was, you know, those those fans are 20 bucks

558
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,040
each. Like they're not cheap. You can get cheaper quiet fans. Okay, you don't

559
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:58,320
have to buy $20 fans, but those are awesome. Um cuz he was like, "Well, I

560
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:06,839
can't afford to have a quiet computer." What do you mean you can't afford to have a quiet computer?

561
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Here. Where are they?

562
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:15,359
like whatever component you bought, I guarantee you there's one that costs the

563
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,280
same that's quiet. So, there's that. You

564
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:20,720
know, whatever case you bought that has wind turbine fans in it, you could have

565
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,040
bought something quiet. And these cost like pennies. These are low-noise

566
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,440
adapters. It's just an inline resistor. Heck, if you want to be, you know,

567
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:33,520
creative, you can just go buy resistors. Here's the color coding. Go buy them at

568
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,480
the local Radio Shack or equivalent. There you go. Gold, black, blue, green.

569
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:44,079
and install them in line with your fans. Boom. Quiet quiet PC for like less than

570
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:46,720
five bucks. So, there you go. It's not about spending a bunch of money on

571
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,680
having a quiet computer. It's about there's no reason to have a loud computer. I play from my couch at 2 and

572
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:56,560
a half meters from my monitor. Do you have a great keyboard mouse suggestion? Not really. Um although there's

573
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:01,280
something really cool that I have coming. It's like a couch couch gaming

574
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,860
thing. I'm going to see if I can uh see if I can find this

575
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:13,040
couch gaming table thing. Crap. There's one.

576
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:19,960
There's one being sent. Couch stand. How do you guys blah blah blah shiny hacks

577
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,640
gaming on your couch or sofa? Ah

578
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:27,839
man. Let me shoot. I don't remember what it's called, but it's from a smaller

579
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,560
company in the UK and it's like just

580
00:41:27,839 --> 00:41:34,800
faking awesome. It's like a bean baggy thing that sits on your on your lap. Um,

581
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:38,960
honestly, if I was gaming from the couch, I'd still prefer wired if I can

582
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,760
get away with it. So, I'd just go with something like a USB

583
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:47,040
extension, you know. Uh, what fan controller would you

584
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,680
recommend? I use a T- balancer. Other than that, I don't really recommend fan

585
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:55,119
controllers. I recommend just permanently quieting things down. uh

586
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,040
using the aforementioned resistors or

587
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:02,560
yeah, fan controllers are kind of ridiculous. Like, think about this for a

588
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:07,280
second, right? Okay, here to test if you would use a fan controller or not, take

589
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:11,200
something like uh like a little action figure or something, put them on top of

590
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,440
your computer case, and then every time you launch a game, reach down and put

591
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:20,079
him on his side. And then every time you close a game, reach down and stand him

592
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:23,920
up. See how long that lasts. see how long you can do it for before you forget

593
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:28,160
or don't care. That is why fan controllers are stupid because nobody

594
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:31,119
actually does that. Uh the temperature sensors that they use are totally

595
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:35,200
useless because it's not like you can put them uh you know next to the CPU die

596
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,280
anymore like we used to do back in the socket a days. Um, so you can't even

597
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,319
measure any useful temperatures with them unless you have a software

598
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,599
controlled one, something like Corsair Link or something like an MQTT balancer

599
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:49,440
where everything's automated and you got fan curves and temperatures and all that

600
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:53,000
kind of stuff, then it's just pointless. Turn down your fans, have a quiet

601
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:58,480
computer every day, all day. All right, bought a system today.

602
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:03,760
Only ordered the case from NCIX. I forgot and ordered everything from

603
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:08,079
Newegg. Going crazy. Cannot decide between a 7970 or 670. There's a $10

604
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,880
difference. You know what? They're both great options. Flip a coin. Uh 7970 is

605
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:17,440
what I would probably recommend for a surround gaming setup, whereas a 670 is

606
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:21,359
way better for 3D. So, decide which of those is more important to you. Intake

607
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:26,880
or exhaust at the top of the case? Usually exhaust. Friend with a Mac Pro.

608
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,560
And what is the point of 96 gigs of RAM? That is so overkill. You know what? I

609
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,960
would have said the same thing about something like 16 or 32 gigs of RAM. So,

610
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:38,800
there's a couple things you can do until recently. There's a couple of things you

611
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,720
can do. Number one is you can set up a RAM disc. Okay? So, you can install some

612
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:49,040
stuff on there. You can use as a scratch disc when you're video editing or whatever else. Number two is I had no

613
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:54,079
idea how he pulled this off, but Diesel managed to just destroy the uh the

614
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,760
memory utilization of a system with 16 gigs of memory. like he only had like

615
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:02,160
two things open, but he had like some color correction uh Da Vinci Resolve

616
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:05,440
thing and then he had Premier going and then like he wanted to do something else

617
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,160
and he checked his memory. He was like, "Oh, I got to close something before I can open anything else." I was like,

618
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,319
"Okay, dude. I'll get you 32 gigs of RAM for the editing machine." So, there you

619
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:17,839
go. For serious serious professional work, you

620
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:23,920
can use more RAM. Another use is virtual machines. If you want to run VMs, you'll

621
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:30,400
need tons and tons of RAM. I am an OS10 user. I'm sorry to hear

622
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:34,160
that. Uh I love watching your videos. I'm happy to hear that. Why do you

623
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:39,520
prefer PC over OS 10? I like both platforms, but I prefer OS 10. Uh one

624
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520
word

625
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:49,440
games right now there's nothing for OS 10. I mean, I can play some uh some Bop,

626
00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:53,200
you know, Mac games. I can play games on

627
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,800
my iPad, but if I actually want to like

628
00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:00,560
sit down at my computer and veg and play a shooter, there's there's nothing. I

629
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,400
mean, I this sort of leads into

630
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:06,160
something that I find very sad. Like, I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't

631
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:10,920
do more to try to salvage the PC as a gaming platform. Like I understand Xbox

632
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:15,760
is great and licensing fees are awesome and like consoles are great because you

633
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,839
can sell what is essentially, you know, a hundred bucks worth of three

634
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,680
generation, four, five generation old stuff for, you know, 300 bucks. I I

635
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:28,720
understand that's all cool. That's fantastic. Good for you. But understand

636
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:34,560
that the only thing differentiating your platform from Linux and OS 10, from some

637
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:39,839
kind of Apple OS, is gaming and gamers and tweakability. And the more they get

638
00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:43,560
away from that, the more I worry about what the future of something like

639
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:47,280
Windows is. So yeah, right now that's a big part of

640
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,560
the reason. Also, I just find it phenomenally difficult to use. Every time I sit down at a at an OS 10

641
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:57,440
computer, I managed to break something within about 3 seconds. So, I don't

642
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:02,000
know. It's just like just stupid stuff like dragging discs to the trash can to

643
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:05,520
eject them. It's like that was handicapped back when they were doing it

644
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,359
10 years ago. It's still handicapped now, but for whatever reason, they

645
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:13,839
haven't changed it, so I don't quite get it. Um, what do you think of using RAM

646
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,040
as a hard drive caching? Um, fantasy cache looks really neat. Haven't tried

647
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,400
it yet. Once I get my personal rig up and running, I actually really want to

648
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,640
get that going. So, I have 64 gigs of RAM that I'm going to put in my

649
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:29,599
motherboard. Then I have my 900 gigs or whatever of RAID zero SSDs. I'm going to

650
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,640
run fancy cache. Maybe throw 48 gigs of that memory because I I don't I'm just

651
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:36,400
playing games. I'm not going to need anything for video editing or anything

652
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:43,119
like that. Nothing fancy. So, I'll throw 48 gigs of RAM cache at the almost 1 TB

653
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,400
SSD in RAID zero and I'll see what kind of like crazy performance I can get.

654
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:53,280
I'll see if I notice it more than anything else. Would you ever add a sound card to

655
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,280
your water loop?

656
00:46:53,319 --> 00:47:00,240
Nope. Uh, tuning in live from Belgium. Yay. How's the litter quitter going?

657
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Oh, litter quitter's good. We had another accident today. It had been like

658
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:09,119
3 days since the last one and I'm super mad about this. I had the door open into

659
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:13,520
the garage where I had their old litter box uh while I was preparing for the

660
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:18,240
live stream. This is actually like I know I'm always late, but seriously

661
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:23,839
guys, there's always a legit reason. So, I was chasing the cat out of here

662
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:26,560
because he snuck into the garage and

663
00:47:23,839 --> 00:47:32,400
found where I stashed his litter box and dumped it all over the floor. Freaking

664
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,640
sweet. So, I get to clean that up later. Oh, shoot. I just changed the uh Oops.

665
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,319
Uh oh. I don't know how that affected the stream. There we go. I was trying to

666
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,800
just change the game there so you guys could see the spilled litter. That makes

667
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:50,480
my life good. So, uh so yeah, not impressed. Bad cat. That was

668
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,800
Rocket. Super super annoyed with him.

669
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,400
But, uh yeah, other than that, good. I was

670
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,440
hoping based on that we hadn't had any accidents for a few days that we'd be

671
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:05,560
good to go to move to the next stage, but it looks like that's not

672
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:08,640
going to happen quite yet. Not quite

673
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,800
yet. Uh, no experience with the non-

674
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:15,280
cherry ones. I'm sort of mainstream that way when it comes to mechanical

675
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:17,839
keyboards. Uh, Razer Black Widow. I would probably go for the Ultimate. I

676
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,000
don't think the Black Widow actually uses Cherry MX switches. Speaking of me

677
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,280
only really knowing Cherry MX switches. Okay, more about more about more about

678
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,040
uh test my first use of Twitter. Hi, Stephen. Do you think new games will

679
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,720
start using less CPU and more GPU power? We've already seen that. Um, personally,

680
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:39,440
I'd like to see games use more CPU power. I mean, I almost everyone has a

681
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:44,319
dual core at this point. I think a lot of particularly gamers and enthusiasts

682
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,880
are moving to quad cores. Um, why don't

683
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:51,119
we have a seriously physics-based game where there's an entire CPU dedicated to

684
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,880
just making everything a simulation as opposed to pre-rendered or whatever

685
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:59,440
else? I mean, yeah, it's consoles holding us back,

686
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,800
but yeah, I'm that's what I'm more excited about than anything else. That

687
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:06,160
and virtual reality. Um, we talked about it uh either last week or the week

688
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,480
before, but there's a VR headset coming that looks really really cool. So, I

689
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:16,800
mean, I think gaming's in a bit of a funk right now for the last few years,

690
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:21,920
but I'm yeah, really excited about some of the things that are coming. 3D, not

691
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:25,200
so much, but VR and more physics. Super

692
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,800
excited about a 670 for the win. I have

693
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,520
enough money to get a second 670 or TJ7B. What should I get? You know what?

694
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:35,040
I can't make that decision for you. Um, if you feel like it's worthwhile

695
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:40,079
investing in an expensive case, then that is the call that you have to make.

696
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Personally, why did I buy a TJ7? I bought a TJ07. Well, my wife, now now

697
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:49,200
wife, then girlfriend bought it for me. Uh because I really wanted one and it

698
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:53,760
was very, very generous of her. Why did I get a TJ7? Because I knew that 5 years

699
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:57,599
down the line, I would still be using that chassis. I wouldn't want anything

700
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:01,200
different. I knew that already. I still think it's the best chassis on the

701
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:08,079
market once you do the appropriate mods to make it a little bit more functional.

702
00:50:04,359 --> 00:50:10,559
Um, so if you're willing to commit to a

703
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:14,000
case that way, then go for it. Otherwise, I find it very hard to

704
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:18,000
justify spending so much on a case when there are great options like something

705
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:22,240
like a Define R4 window that don't cost nearly as much. I mean, you could buy a

706
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:25,599
Defin R4 window, save a pennies from a couple, you know, one more paycheck and

707
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:31,359
buy yourself both as opposed to buying something like a TJ07. So, it is

708
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:33,640
definitely a niche part. Um, and it's

709
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:38,960
totally up to you. whether something you want to do that.

710
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Chase asks if I've decided to stream the assembly of my rig. I might, I might not

711
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,000
because it's probably going to take me something like yeah 8 to 10 hours

712
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:50,000
straight because I'll be making some custom wires and cables. I'll be

713
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,200
splicing some stuff, sleeving some stuff at the last minute as I go. So, I

714
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:59,200
haven't really decided if it makes sense, but if you guys like the idea, then let me know and uh and I'll think

715
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,800
about it. I live in Quebec and there's no places to try keyboards. Any tips?

716
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:07,359
because I'm looking for a switch to type and game. Get browns. Browns or blacks

717
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:12,000
are good bets. Uh, personally, I like blues for gaming. I got no problem with

718
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:16,319
that. Um, they're all good. Mechanical is just better than membrane in every

719
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:19,520
possible way. I would like to use static link aggregation. Could you tell me more

720
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,680
about it and how to set it up with your router? Uh, it's not a router feature.

721
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:28,720
It's actually a switch feature. So, if you don't have a managed switch of some

722
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,839
sort that supports LCP, then you aren't doing that.

723
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:37,359
Also, it probably won't really matter because here's something to understand

724
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:42,880
about link aggregation that I didn't when I first got started with the the

725
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:44,800
quad gigabit

726
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:50,160
uh nit cards. I thought I was going to get 4 Gbit per second pointtooint.

727
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:55,359
That's not how it works. It's actually not adding more top speed, but adding

728
00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:01,520
more lanes to the highway, if you get what I mean. So it's more like four one

729
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,599
gigabit streams versus a single 4

730
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:07,839
gigabit stream. So that means you could have four computers pulling one gigabit

731
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,839
off that computer all at the same time. Or if one of the connection goes down,

732
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:16,319
you'll have 3 GB total and it'll be a fail safe and everything will still

733
00:52:13,319 --> 00:52:17,839
work. But you can't just have one

734
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:22,319
computer pulling off another one at 4 Gbit per second. So it doesn't really

735
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:27,720
matter for consumer use. That's why I ended up looking into uh uh looking into

736
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,720
whatever it's called.

737
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:39,680
Um right, 10 gigabit as opposed to something like 4

738
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:39,680
gigabit. So, let's

739
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:48,440
see. Here we go. Ryan says, "Lion, the

740
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,640
vid you just put up says December 14th."

741
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:54,160
Oops. Hey, hopefully that doesn't keep too many people from joining. You know

742
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:57,760
what? Let's take some newer questions. And I think I had a couple of live

743
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:01,640
stream topics tonight, but again, like I said, I can't Oh my goodness. I can't

744
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:05,760
leave Slick to entertain you guys in the meantime. What's your opinion on the

745
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Korean rebranded Apple 27in Cinema Displays? I'm not aware of rebranded

746
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:17,119
Apple 27inch cinema displays. I'm aware of a minus panel LG IPS monitors that

747
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:20,400
are 2560 by 1440. Uh they're cheap,

748
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:21,760
which is good. They're cheap, which is

749
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:26,720
good. They're high-res, which is good. They're IPS, which is good. These are all good things. The things I'd worry

750
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,160
about are things like warranty support. Uh things where you're not going to get

751
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,599
a return for it, like backlight bleeding around the edges. These are A minus

752
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,960
panels, so the odds of getting a dead pixel. However many accounts you find on

753
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:41,520
the internet of people saying they didn't get one, the odds are better than

754
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:45,200
if you bought an A+ panel or an A panel, which is what you'll generally find in a

755
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:49,359
retail product. So, what's my opinion? They're cheap. if I was going to buy I

756
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:53,119
sure wish they'd make one without a glossy bezel. I was even looking into

757
00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:56,720
them. I was like, "Well, I could use uh I could use a surround 27inch gaming

758
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,480
setup." And then I was just like, "Oh, they all have glossy bezels." I really

759
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:06,640
want to do a project over the next little bit where I actually take the bezels off of three monitors, mount them

760
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:10,640
on one of those XFXinity stands, and have like a bezelless multimonitor

761
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,520
setup. But that's the kind of thing that it'll be a little while before I can uh

762
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:19,280
before I can get that going. I still have to actually manage to finish building my computer. So yeah,

763
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,559
everything was working except his motherboard. Now the new motherboard is causing it to not post. Okay, well then

764
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:28,000
you might have a problem with your motherboard. Chris, uh, blues are the

765
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,599
loudest. Liam, is the 3970X worth buying

766
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:34,240
for a YouTube commentator? Like video rendering every day, maybe 3D and best

767
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:37,680
silent case. Define R4 window gets my vote for like just being a freaking

768
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:42,400
awesome case in general. Very, very quiet. Uh, 3970X, of course, it's not

769
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,800
worth it. I mean, do you even need me to tell you that? Just look at the specs.

770
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:51,319
It's like best case scenario like 10% faster than a 3930K and it costs like

771
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,440
what 2x. So, I don't know. Worth it? I don't

772
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,359
know. I mean, if it's your job and you make money doing it and you want to spend a,000 bucks, you want to have an

773
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:04,240
extreme edition, you want to have like a, you know, like a prestige piece, go

774
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:07,559
for it. Buy an extreme edition. Um, but if you're looking for bang for the buck,

775
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:12,480
buy a 3930K, overclock it. There you go.

776
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,480
You've got extreme edition performance pretty much within sort of margin of

777
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,800
error because it has about three megs less cache. Um they can overclock to

778
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:25,760
pretty much the same speed though. They're otherwise the same chip. They

779
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:28,000
are the same actual die. It's just a bin

780
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,680
process. Um and then if you run an even better value, you get a 3770K which

781
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:38,839
unless you're leveraging those other two cores will actually perform better than

782
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,839
a 3930K or a 3970X.

783
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,280
When is NCX opening in Montreal? Um,

784
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,920
probably not anytime soon would be my guess. There's a lot of laws around sort

785
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,920
of having a physical presence in Montreal where the the the laws don't

786
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:57,119
apply to you if you're not there, but they do apply to you if you are there

787
00:55:55,359 --> 00:56:01,119
and you have to have like French on all your packaging and blah blah blah. Like,

788
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,440
I just super doubt it. Um, NCX already ships to Montreal. There's free shipping

789
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:09,119
promotions all the time. So yeah, I don't really see a compelling

790
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:12,880
reason to have a store there. Need a recommendation for a 750 watt power

791
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:16,079
supply, modular and easy to sleeve. Saw the EVG at a very attractive price. What

792
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,200
are you saying? Um, you know what? You know who does really easy to sleeve

793
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,359
power supplies? The Silverstone because they always do a onetoone connector. Uh,

794
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:26,319
they're modular cables are one cable to one cable, so you can easily resleve

795
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,160
them in a different color if you want. That's something that while the sleeving

796
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:35,119
on the Strider 1000 Plus, for example, is not the best I've ever seen, as a lot

797
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:39,760
of the commenters noted on the unboxing, um, it's not a bad power supply by any

798
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:44,880
stretch. It's efficient, it's small, so it's compact, it's going to fit in the

799
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,720
SG9 build that we're planning, and it is

800
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,160
very easy to sleeve if you want to do individual sleeings. So, there you go.

801
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:55,200
That would be that would be a good recommendation. Silverstone Plus and not

802
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:59,359
that expensive either. Fancy Cash works great apparently. Awesome. Single sleeve

803
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,799
power supply tutorial. Didn't manage to find one. Uh, I have that mixed in with

804
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:06,160
some of my personal rig updates, but honestly, I'm not the best at it. I

805
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:11,319
think there's some good guides on hard OCP,

806
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,920
particularly. How does the system

807
00:57:11,319 --> 00:57:18,079
sound? Good. With SSD, get an I don't know, get

808
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:21,920
an M4. Get a Neutron GTX. Actually, we have a new SSD update coming on the NCX

809
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:28,319
Tech Tips channel soon where basically we discover that the Vector, the Neutron

810
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,920
GTX, the M5P from Plexor, and presumably

811
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:32,720
the 840 Pro are all kind of within spitting distance of each other. So, buy

812
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:37,680
whatever you want that makes you happy and looks cool and enjoy

813
00:57:35,319 --> 00:57:45,520
it. Watching the live stream, setting up my Prodigy build. Oo, very nice. 3570K,

814
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,680
16 gigs, 680 signature, water cooled.

815
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,960
Very cool. Uh, the Black Widow Ultimate does use TriamX blue switches. I know,

816
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:55,359
but there's a Black Widow not Ultimate. That's what I was talking about. I don't

817
00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:00,760
believe that one uses blue switches. Stream the build. All right, sounds

818
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:03,040
good. Just have some music. All

819
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,960
right. The first time seeing you live. I really like your YouTube tech tips.

820
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:11,559
Thank you. Thank you for watching. It helps a lot. Where can I test the

821
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:15,520
different types of Cherry MX keys? Really? Friends who have them? That's

822
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:18,400
about all you can really do. I mean, you can watch something like I did a

823
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,839
mechanical keyboard shopping guide on the NCX tech tips channel. You can watch

824
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:25,359
that. I try to give you guys a pretty good idea of the different feels, but

825
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:33,520
it's the kind of thing where unless you've tried it yourself, it's very hard

826
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:33,520
to to do sort of online. Um,

827
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:39,839
yeah. Uh, you know what? I think this is

828
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:44,880
a better topic for when Slick is here to sort of discuss it with me. So, I'm

829
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:47,720
going to leave that one for now.

830
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:52,559
Uh 75 degrees. Yeah, that's fine. Stream everything. Okay, got it.

831
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:56,400
What are your thoughts on water cooling kits? I think something like an H100 or

832
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:01,839
H100i makes a lot of sense because it has a dual radiator. I've never been a

833
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:05,200
big fan of single rad water cooling kits

834
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,559
for one reason. They're expensive. Well,

835
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,720
they're not super expensive. I mean, this is about a hundred bucks, which is

836
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:16,400
expensive, but it's not like, you know, going to make you break make you or

837
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:18,799
break you. Um, but I beyond clearing up

838
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,880
space around the CPU socket and looking really good, they don't offer anything

839
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:27,119
compelling over a high-end air cooler, which will actually perform better than

840
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:31,200
a pre-done water cooler. So, something like an H100 or H100i, that's ruler of

841
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,720
the roost. That's about as good as it gets in terms of performance because you

842
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,960
have all that surface area. You got two fans, they are both cooling it and doing

843
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:43,599
awesome work and everything is good. Better even than a Silverero Extreme.

844
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Silver Extreme destroyed the H8I in my testing. So, that's all I really need to

845
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,720
know about it. Why am I spending so much on this if it actually doesn't perform

846
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,000
as well as a high-end air cooling solution? Not to mention that high-end

847
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:58,079
air cooling solutions can be more flexible in some ways. My wife's

848
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:02,960
machine, if you check out my personal project, wife computer or something like

849
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,240
that, has a Silverero non-extreme in it that I'm actually using to passively

850
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:11,839
cool the CPU. So, she's got a 980X in

851
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:17,599
there. So, that's an Extreme Edition six core last generation Golf Town. Uh,

852
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,040
she's got a 5870 that has an aftermarket

853
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:22,799
cooler on it. Also a thermal right cooler with a 120 mil fan. So, there's

854
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:26,880
only three fans in this machine. There's one in the back of the case blowing

855
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:30,240
inward towards that tower heat sink, which is enough to keep it cool under

856
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:34,880
load. No overclocking, mind you. There's the 5870 fan, which is spinning at like

857
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:40,160
600 RPM or something like that. So, it's very, very quiet and keeps that card

858
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:43,599
cool even under full firmark load. Um, I had it turned around the the wrong way

859
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,480
for a bit. That wasn't very smart. If I'd had the fan speed cranked up, it

860
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:52,000
might have been okay, but I got had to turn that back around. And then there's the power supply fan. Super silent

861
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:56,559
machine. Uh, couldn't do it with something like an H80 because you'd have

862
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:59,119
a pump and you would need another fan on

863
01:00:56,559 --> 01:01:02,000
the back. So, you haven't managed to actually eliminate any noise sources.

864
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:07,240
Whereas with a tower heat sink in a passive mode, you've managed to eliminate at least one fan from the

865
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:11,359
system. So there, that's my take on that. Love to watch the live stream.

866
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:15,680
Okay. How much do you think is a normal price for a high-end case? I don't know,

867
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:19,240
man. It's called Google. Google highend here. You know what? Why don't we do

868
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:27,400
this just for ls? Oh. Oh, I screwed up. There we

869
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,400
go. Hi.

870
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:39,480
Lunatic high-end iPhone case. Oh, we

871
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:42,280
better be more specific.

872
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:49,119
Computer. Aha. High-end computer case. Best high-end gaming case. Solved

873
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,160
on Tom's hardware. I am looking for a

874
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:56,640
high-end gaming case. Blah blah blah blah blah blah

875
01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:02,119
blah. Something something something. First one looks decent. Okay. Something

876
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:04,960
something. Ah, someone linked to

877
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:09,359
Newegg. A high-end case. Look at that. It's a

878
01:02:06,839 --> 01:02:15,599
TJ7. Oh, what happened to it? It went away. Boo. Boo. TJ7BW

879
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:20,079
discontinued. Whatever. It's like 350 bucks. So, there. That answers your

880
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:23,760
question. TJ07 is a high. Actually, I didn't stage that you guys, just so you

881
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:28,640
know. TJ07 is a high-end case and it's about 350 bucks.

882
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:33,280
Stream the build. Stream the build. Stream the build. Stream the build. Got

883
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:36,599
it. Okay, I got it. I got it. I got it. What do you recommend as a replacement

884
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:42,319
for Infinity? Infinity. Um, Infinity is just

885
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:46,480
uh AMD's branding for running triple monitors and surround. So, there's

886
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:50,960
NVIDIA Surround, which is not quite as easy to set up as affinity, and then

887
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,680
there's Infinity. So, that's that's it.

888
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,839
Uh, is the 39. Oh, yeah. Okay, I already saw that one. Best CPU temperature

889
01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:00,319
monitoring software. I use Realtemp. I really like it. What's a

890
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:07,440
quick recommendation you could give us for a good budgeted video editing rig?

891
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:11,079
3770K. 16 to 32 gigs of RAM. MATX board.

892
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,559
Keep it nice and small. SSD for

893
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:19,039
boot. Another different drive for scratch. Yeah. Okay. I want to get an

894
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:23,599
SSD, but don't want to spend over $100. What's the best? Buy a 120 gig SSD

895
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:27,119
that's under 100 bucks. Get whatever you want because you're not getting a

896
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,720
premium SSD at that price. So, buy whatever you can get. Just make sure you

897
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,280
get something decent like an M4. Currently, I have a 6870 and I'm

898
01:03:32,319 --> 01:03:39,520
planning to upgrade. Should I get another one to buy? No. Buy a better single card. A lot of people sort of

899
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:44,240
Okay, here. Think about it this way. When you get a new car, do you buy

900
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,520
another car to run next to it so you can carry more people or do you just sell

901
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:53,359
your old car and buy a new car? I think most people sell their old car. But a

902
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:59,359
lot of people seem to have trouble with this whole my video card is outdated.

903
01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:02,799
Um, so you know, I'm gonna replace it and then they just kind of like they

904
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:07,440
throw it away or something like I don't. It has a trade-in value. Sell your old

905
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:10,480
graphics card. Find a buddy to buy it. Sell put it on eBay. It doesn't matter.

906
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:15,280
You can get money back for your graphics card. 6870 is still worth a couple

907
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:19,920
bucks. So you sell that, you take that money, you buy something better. So,

908
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:26,720
it's not just as simple as, well, a 6870 will only cost me $100 and a 7950 will

909
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:29,359
cost me $250, so I'm spending 100 or

910
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:32,559
250. No, no, you sell your 6870 for 100 bucks. Then you pay an extra 150, you

911
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:38,160
get something new that's better and faster and current generation and will have longer driver support and all these

912
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:42,200
other advantages. So, I almost never recommend twinning an older graphics

913
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:47,200
card. Sell what you have, get something new. Misk is an open source RAM disc

914
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:50,240
software. Okay, I have a Model M. Very nice. I haven't tried the Unicom.

915
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:54,319
Although, I had a ModelM that someone gave me and then they took back, so I

916
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:57,760
was super sad about that. Uh, best headset would be the 7H. That's my

917
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,680
personal favorite. Is it the best best best best? Hard to say. I don't know.

918
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,960
Uh, Plantronics has a new like Game Commander something or other that's like

919
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:09,839
300 bucks. It looks pretty uber. Haven't tried it yet. But 7H is a great value

920
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:13,400
for around 100 bucks. Uh, and yes, Oculus VR. That's the virtual reality

921
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,799
thing I was talking about. Since we're on the topic of

922
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,359
games, what are some of your most played? Played a lot of Left 4 Dead.

923
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,520
Played Far Cry all the way through a couple times. Uh, played Crisis all the

924
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:31,240
way through. Final Fantasy 6, I've played through sort of a half a dozen,

925
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:34,000
10 times. Um, six is the

926
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:39,280
best. It truly is. Seven is not better than six. Um, I don't know what else.

927
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:43,280
Played a lot of TIE Fighter when I was a kid.

928
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:47,119
opinions on passive silent CPU coolers. I think I talked about this a fair bit

929
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:51,839
uh right after he asked that question. So, I'm going to leave that one for now.

930
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:55,440
What PC case would you guys buy to get the best included cooling per dollar?

931
01:05:54,240 --> 01:06:02,680
I'd probably get something from like a half series, like a half 912, something like that. How much do you think is a

932
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:06,000
normal price for a case? Oh, man. Is the

933
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:08,240
3970 There's a repeat. Okay, let's go

934
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:13,839
back up to the top. No. No, I don't think so. As much as

935
01:06:10,799 --> 01:06:13,839
Gabe Newell wants it

936
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:21,520
to. Okay. 168 new interactions. Awesome. You

937
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:25,599
know what? If you guys give me just one moment, I'm going to see if I can find

938
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:33,039
any of the topics that I wanted to do tonight. So, live stream topic. No,

939
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:35,520
that's a stupid topic. Um, oh, shoot.

940
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:43,240
Right. I forgot about this. I have a giveaway for tonight. It is

941
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:45,720
only for live stream watchers,

942
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:51,680
viewers, and I don't remember how I was planning

943
01:06:49,280 --> 01:07:00,960
to do it. Let me just find the email where we

944
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:05,280
talked about it. I cannot find it. Oh,

945
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:09,920
please tell me it's there. Uh

946
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:11,280
I am giving away a copy of Windows 8. I

947
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:17,680
don't actually know what version of Windows 8. I I I don't really know

948
01:07:14,359 --> 01:07:22,000
anything. Why don't we do a Microsoft

949
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:25,480
trivia thing and the first one Aha. The

950
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:27,319
first one to tweet the correct

951
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:32,079
answer is the winner of a copy of Windows 8.

952
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,200
So, I'm going to go with one of my personal favorite little bits of

953
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:40,240
Microsoft trivia because it has to do with my hometown. And I'm going to ask

954
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:44,240
I'm not going to give you guys many hints. Okay. So, you're going to win

955
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:47,760
Windows 8. Oh. Oh. Oh, right. And you got to go to here. Hold on. Hold on. I'm

956
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:52,319
going to find there's a YouTube channel. There's a collaborative effort going on

957
01:07:49,440 --> 01:08:00,400
to bring you guys this giveaway. So, look at Slick. There he is. Uh, so Timmy

958
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:02,760
Tech TV, I think.

959
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:09,119
Uh yeah, I want to leave this page. Hold on. Timmy TechTV. So this

960
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:13,680
giveaway is sponsored by Timmy Tech TV. Um so we're getting Oh, wait. Okay,

961
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,720
there you go. Look at that. He has a video about it. Let's watch the

962
01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:26,120
video. D intro. Moving right along.

963
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,120
Timmy TechTV and Linus Tech Tips.

964
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:42,719
All right. I don't know what he says, but it's probably pretty good. So,

965
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:44,319
basically, I have decided that the first

966
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:49,759
person, guys, be ready. Be ready on Twitter. If you're not following on Twitter, then that's really just too bad

967
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:54,719
for you. Um, you know, I'm sorry you don't like Twitter or Twitter, you know,

968
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:59,159
burned your dog or something, but uh that's how you're going to

969
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:03,359
win. What was the code

970
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:10,839
name for Windows

971
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:14,799
Vista based on? Oh, and guys, to win, you got to be

972
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:20,080
subscribed to me. You got to be subscribed to Timmy TechTV. So guys, do

973
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:20,080
check out his

974
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:27,040
videos. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I know what the code name was. What? Why

975
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:31,600
was that the code name? What was it actually based on? Okay, so let's go

976
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,600
back to

977
01:09:33,799 --> 01:09:39,359
Twitter. You win a copy of Windows

978
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:42,080
8. Okay. Yeah, no one got it before that. And yes, that is a ThinkGeek

979
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:47,759
sticker in the back. I don't remember where it is, but it's somewhere back there. Yeah, it's on my external DVD

980
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:50,600
drive. This uh this question is pretty pretty

981
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:57,679
close to my heart.

982
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:59,600
Yeah. No, no, none of this is right. No,

983
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:03,560
none of this is right. Oh, hold on. Okay, let's see if Oh, let's see if Oh,

984
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:10,560
no. Sasha's not first. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, what? Oh, jeez. This isn't very

985
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,400
accurate. Can't hear your videos. So,

986
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:18,719
yeah, Longhorn. Longhorn. Yeah, it was Longhorn, but that's not that's not why.

987
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:21,880
Oh, Suki, I don't know if I can let you

988
01:10:18,719 --> 01:10:25,600
have that one because it is

989
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:28,120
not Yeah. Yes. It's not specific enough.

990
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:33,120
Not specific enough. Yes. The Longhorn Saloon is in Whistler, BC, which is very

991
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:39,120
near to where I live. But the first person to say the Longhorn Longhorn Bar.

992
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Oh crap. I don't know if we've actually I don't know if we got a correct answer.

993
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:46,480
I might have to come up with something else. I'm going to have to see. Okay.

994
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:52,560
So, the Hold on. Time is now 10:13. So, anyone who anyone who comes up with it

995
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:56,840
Yeah. No, it's not the Longhorn Horn Bar. It is the Longhorn Saloon, folks.

996
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:03,760
Let's see if anyone came up with that before we ran out of uh before I gave

997
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,760
away the answer here.

998
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:16,800
Shoot. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Sorry, guys.

999
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:20,320
I I cannot I cannot let that uh cannot

1000
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:23,120
let that happen. Longhorn barn is not or

1001
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:29,480
barn Longhorn bar is not good enough. It is the Longhorn saloon needed a specific

1002
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:32,480
answer. Okay, so let's come up with

1003
01:11:29,480 --> 01:11:32,480
something

1004
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:45,440
else. Let's make this one easier just for just for ls actually. Let's make

1005
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:49,840
this one B. The first person to answer this viewer's question. So, this was

1006
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:53,760
this was from a previous or this Twitter Twitter respondent's question is going

1007
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:58,880
to win a copy of Windows 8. So, I had someone say,

1008
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:01,040
"Linus, I uh I recently upgraded my

1009
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:04,920
memory in my system. I put in I put in a whole new kit of memory. I've got 32

1010
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:12,400
gigs of RAM. It's showing up in the BIOS. Um, but unfortunately in my OS, I

1011
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:14,560
only see 16 gigs.

1012
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:20,800
I can only use 16 gigs. What's the problem? The first person to tweet me

1013
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,800
the correct answer to that

1014
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:26,159
problem wins a copy of Windows 8,

1015
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:31,760
assuming that they are subscribed to me and Timmy TechTV. Holy crap. 20 new

1016
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:39,000
interactions. Uh, go down, go down, go down, go down. I need a specific answer

1017
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:39,000
here, guys. Specific answer.

1018
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:49,760
Yep. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Nope. 32-bit is not the

1019
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:52,840
problem. 32-bit would not show 16 gigs of memory. You'd be limited to three or

1020
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:56,880
four. Not correct. Not correct. Not correct.

1021
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:01,480
Upgrade Windows is not specific enough for me. Devon, what version of Windows

1022
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:06,320
is he running? Home Edition. Not going to

1023
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:12,159
accept that either. Windows Premium. Nope. Sorry.

1024
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:17,199
I'm looking for the specifically correct answer. Twitter laziness will not work.

1025
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:24,880
See, again, this this is correct, but oh man, you guys you guys are killing me

1026
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:24,880
here. Why hasn't anyone tweeted

1027
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:35,760
me? Oh, see there,

1028
01:13:33,159 --> 01:13:38,880
finally the RAM. Okay, you know what? Actually, I think that one came in

1029
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:45,719
before I said anything. Hold on. Hold on. Going down. Going down. Okay. 32-bit

1030
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:49,840
versus 64-bit is not right. So, let's go all the way up. I'm

1031
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:55,920
looking for the first person to say that he's running Windows Home Premium.

1032
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,920
Windows Home

1033
01:13:56,679 --> 01:14:02,800
Premium. Windows version does not. Okay,

1034
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:05,679
Ryan, I think you're the first one.

1035
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:09,679
Windows 7 Home Premium is the pro. I don't like the way you guys are

1036
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:15,280
answering these though. I kind of kind of hate it where it's just not complete

1037
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,920
sentence answers and it's like sort of

1038
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,920
random and

1039
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:25,520
crappy. Okay, I tell you what, I'll let Twitter decide. Ryan's the first one

1040
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:30,640
that actually managed to say what OS he was running and what was the problem,

1041
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:34,239
but he didn't say what the solution was.

1042
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,239
Whereas I saw one further up

1043
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,800
here. Okay, hold on. Where is it? Only

1044
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:45,280
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. No, I thought I saw one that said

1045
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:50,080
upgrade from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 7

1046
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:53,920
Pro. Okay, fine. Let's go. Let's go between Kian who says upgrade your

1047
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:57,640
Windows Oh, hold on. Windows Premium, not Pro. Okay, let's find the first

1048
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:02,480
person who didn't really sort of say it right. and then we'll we'll go for Ryan

1049
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:07,840
being the person who actually called it the the correct thing. So, here we go.

1050
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:12,320
First person who had the correct idea but didn't really say it

1051
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,320
right.

1052
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:23,440
Um, okay. So, I want you guys to tell me, should it be Devon or Ryan? Because

1053
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,239
Devon said upgrade Windows, but see, no. You know what? No, I can't accept that

1054
01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:31,040
because he could have meant 32 versus 64-bit. Let's go with Jason. Jason or

1055
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,040
Ryan, Windows Home Edition is the problem. But Ryan actually calls it the

1056
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:40,239
right thing because home edition is not a Windows 7 product. That is a Windows

1057
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:42,000
XP product. Windows XP Home Edition. And

1058
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:46,640
if it was Windows XP Home Edition, it would not be 64-bit and it would not

1059
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:50,080
have 16 gigs of RAM being recognized in it. That's why I don't like these

1060
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:55,040
inexact answers because I don't know if you guys actually know what the problem

1061
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,800
is. So, I'll let I'll let Twitter decide

1062
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:02,000
and we will go from there. Holy crap, Twitter's exploding. You guys saved. You

1063
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:07,320
got Okay. Okay. Twitter has decided. Ryan is the winner. So, Ryan, uh, please

1064
01:16:04,719 --> 01:16:11,600
send me an email at Linus techtips@gmail.com and we will we will

1065
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:17,360
go with it. So, for next week, I want you guys to be as precise as possible in

1066
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,600
your answers. I am going to be doing Windows 8 giveaways sponsored by Timmy

1067
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:26,840
Tech TV. So, guys, don't forget that YouTube channel where you want to go

1068
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:32,880
here. There you go. youtube.comtimite oh you can't see

1069
01:16:29,719 --> 01:16:34,640
ittimmy TV that is the actual sponsor of

1070
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,440
these Windows 8 giveaways so make sure you're subscribed to him make sure

1071
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:42,080
you're following him for any future updates and Ryan send me an email I will

1072
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:45,040
arrange to get you a Windows 8 CD key you'll have to figure out where to get

1073
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:50,320
media on your own but that's not the part that costs money um and thank you

1074
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:54,239
everyone for playing and thanks for you know watching the live stream yay so I'm

1075
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:57,199
glad I didn't forget about that and I'll come up with I Instead of trying to

1076
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:01,520
think of questions on the spot next week, I will uh I will come up with uh I

1077
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:05,199
will come up with questions ahead of time. I had totally forgotten about it.

1078
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:07,679
Lus, I know you have a motorbike. I have an SV

1079
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:14,159
650S. Okay. Blah blah blah blah blah

1080
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:19,040
blah blah. Yeah, Dan, you were after you were after the other guy. Okay. Better

1081
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:22,149
luck next week, Dan. I'm sorry.

1082
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Uh,

1083
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,000
okay guys, remember this is just for

1084
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:40,520
fun. Just for fun, everyone. Oh, yeah. That's a good idea. Jeff Ryan, tweet at

1085
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:43,360
me so that I know that it's the right

1086
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:48,080
person. Tam TechTV is not stealing Windows 8 copies. Geez, whatever

1087
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:54,000
happened to the Cougar power supply? I still use it on one of my test benches.

1088
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:57,159
4 gig 670 or 2 gig 680. 4 gig 670 for

1089
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,920
high-res, so above 1080p. 2 gig 680 for

1090
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:04,239
1080p. Cooler Master Iceberg hopefully coming soon you

1091
01:18:01,159 --> 01:18:07,440
guys. Um, I work out of the head office

1092
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:10,400
in Richmond, not the Aberdine store.

1093
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:14,000
Head office, different thing. If my primary monitor is 120 Hz, can I

1094
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:19,280
duplicate my screen at lower hertz? Yes, you can. No problems at all. thinking

1095
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:22,560
about getting a G75 or a GT70. Which is better? Honestly, for me, gaming

1096
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,320
notebooks come down to spec, especially when you compare two solid brands like

1097
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:31,280
ASUS and MSI. They're both good notebooks. Buy whichever one is slightly

1098
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:36,320
faster or is on promo or whatever else. What do I think of a Roseill 550 watt

1099
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:40,640
power supply? Who cares? No offense if Paul's

1100
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:45,840
watching. Uh, is there going to be another tech in 2013? Potentially. I

1101
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:49,760
don't know of any plans for a specific date or anything like that, but Viet

1102
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:54,120
says, "I never see my tweets on your live stream." I'm sure glad that you

1103
01:18:51,840 --> 01:19:00,719
wasted your tweet uh telling me that. I'm sure you're glad,

1104
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:04,080
too. All right, let's go ahead and uh scroll back up here and see if we got

1105
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:08,960
any more tweets. Thanks for bearing with me on the whole just Q&A style video

1106
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:13,920
tonight, you guys. I know it might not have been as interesting as having Slick

1107
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:21,880
U hosting with me, but like I said, he is he is

1108
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:21,880
super he is super uh super sick. So

1109
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:30,640
um here we go. Live stream topics. Ah

1110
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:35,800
yes, this was a good question. I had someone uh tweet twitter me, tweet me,

1111
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:43,040
tweet me asking why is it that my graphics card has

1112
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:43,800
GDDR5 and my computer system does not

1113
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:48,640
use GDDR5. So a couple different things.

1114
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:53,840
Number one is graphics memory has a completely different set of requirements

1115
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:55,679
from desktop PC memory. So this one is

1116
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:01,199
just sort of my general understanding, but I my understanding is that PC

1117
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:05,120
desktop memory has to have a higher degree of accuracy, a higher degree of

1118
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:09,040
precision than something like graphics memory. If a mistake is made on a

1119
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:13,840
graphics card and there's some kind of a bit flipped or whatever else goes wrong,

1120
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:17,840
it is maybe you have a pixel that's discolored. Whereas if it happens with

1121
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,280
your system memory and something critical in the OS was happening there,

1122
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:27,199
the whole thing goes down. So there's that. Number two is graphics memory has

1123
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,800
always been kind of ahead of of desktop

1124
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:33,120
memory because you don't have to deal with a socketed slot. So because you can

1125
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:37,520
solder it right to the board, it interfaces much more directly. The line

1126
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:40,960
the traces are cleaner. You have fewer points of failure. So that's all good.

1127
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,360
Can run at much higher clock speeds and it is optimized for bandwidth.

1128
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:49,120
Bandwidth. Bandwidth. Bandwidth. Remember guys, bandwidth and latency are

1129
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:54,480
not the same thing. Turning clock speeds up can improve both of them. But if you

1130
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:58,320
need to push through like shed loads of data, then you build yourself a

1131
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:01,679
completely custom memory interface. That's another thing is the memory

1132
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:05,520
interfaces required for these kinds of more advanced memory are not available

1133
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:09,520
on the desktop yet. You build yourself a super wide memory interface. You solder

1134
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:14,640
chips directly to your board and then you clock them to high hell and back and

1135
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:19,280
you will get a ton of bandwidth. They've also optimized GDDR which is different

1136
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:25,280
from DDR. They've optimized GDDR memory for not necessarily great latencies, but

1137
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,960
for fantastic throughput. So that means

1138
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,760
that if you have to draw a complex scene or you have to store a bunch of textures

1139
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:33,920
in it and get them out really really fast to draw scenes on the screen, it's

1140
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:39,600
great for that. However, if it was something where you know you get um I

1141
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:44,480
Okay, sorry my my brain's kind of tired. It's been a long week. um something

1142
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:49,280
where you need to reach just one bit of data very very fast, lower latency is

1143
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:52,639
better. And as we move towards sort of higher and higher frequencies and more

1144
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:57,280
and more bandwidth, latencies are actually getting worse as opposed to

1145
01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:00,880
getting better. DDR3 has more latency than DDR2, but it's compensated for by

1146
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:04,639
better integrated memory controllers and all that stuff. So, we just need to wait

1147
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:08,960
for the desktop to catch up. We also don't really need the bandwidth on the

1148
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:12,800
desktop. I can't think of many scenarios where the desktop actually even benefits

1149
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:16,960
from going from dual channel to quad channel. I mean, look it up, guys.

1150
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:20,440
There's not a lot of benefit and we're literally doubling the bandwidth, which

1151
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:25,120
is all you're going to do by adding GDDR5 to to a desktop machine. So, I

1152
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:30,199
hope that sort of answers the question. I don't think I got that across as

1153
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:34,920
clearly as I was hoping, but uh there you go.

1154
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:44,400
Okay. Oh, yeah. And anyone who's emailing me saying that they won when

1155
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:50,760
actually they didn't won and they're and I'm not going to be verifying them, like

1156
01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:54,320
seriously, grow up.

1157
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,320
Um, live stream

1158
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:04,080
topic. Oh, here's a cool one. Oh, yeah.

1159
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,960
So Samsung just acquired Envel or Envo

1160
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:13,280
or Nve. So those are the guys who do the dataex caching software that's in use in

1161
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:16,159
products like the uh Corair. Oh shoot,

1162
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:19,600
what is it? Whatever the OCZ Synapse, so caching solution, the Crucial

1163
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:23,520
Adrenaline, and the Oh, see now I want to now I want to remember

1164
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:29,040
Corsair. Ah crap, I can't remember what it's called, but they're caching SSD.

1165
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:31,199
Um, so those guys do basically there's

1166
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,480
nothing special about a Synapse SSD. It's just an SSD. There's nothing

1167
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,920
special about an Adrenaline. It's just an M4. That's all it is. It's got a

1168
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:42,719
special firmware. It comes with a key for the Datallex software. So the

1169
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:44,320
Datalex software is dynamically loading

1170
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:49,760
your most frequently used data into an SSD off of a hard drive so that you can

1171
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,679
get basically SSD speeds off of the data

1172
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:56,639
that you access the most. and then you can fall back on the hard drive for mass

1173
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:58,560
storage when things sort of overflow

1174
01:23:56,639 --> 01:24:04,199
from the SSD. It doesn't have the same kinds of limitations as something like

1175
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:06,880
Intel's SRT, smart response technology

1176
01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:11,760
um because it doesn't limit you to only a 64 gig SSD or less, which is really

1177
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:18,000
cool. But oh yeah, and it doesn't lock you down to a Z68 or Z77 platform, which

1178
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,920
is also cool. But now that Samsung owns

1179
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:24,159
it, I think it's going to be very interesting time for the overall SSD

1180
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:28,800
caching market. It it's not something that's really taken off. I mean, it's

1181
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:33,360
the kind of thing where consumers, they don't trust it. But then you put a

1182
01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:36,880
laptop that has even like a 16 gig or 32 gig SSD cache in it in a consumer's

1183
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:42,400
hands and you tell them it has a hard drive, they kind of go, "Oh yeah, this is like way faster. This is way better."

1184
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:46,239
So yeah, I'm not sure how that affects guys like uh guys like an OCZ who are

1185
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:51,040
licensing the software, but I can tell you right now it's very exciting for

1186
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:55,040
someone like Samsung. I mean, remember Samsung spun off their hard drive

1187
01:24:53,199 --> 01:25:00,800
business to I believe it was Seagate, although I really hope I'm not wrong

1188
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:02,320
about that. So Samsung designs and fabs

1189
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:07,360
nan flash and controllers. They're they're an SSD builder. They're

1190
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:12,239
affiliated with a hard drive builder that's already been pushing

1191
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:16,400
the boundaries on integrated, you know, SSD caching solutions on consumer hard

1192
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:21,360
drives with the Momentous XT line. And all of a sudden, they've got this new

1193
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:23,920
software sort of and these these new staff. They're keeping all the staff, so

1194
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:28,080
they're keeping the company intact. They've got this fresh blood coming in

1195
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,960
that might be able to help everyone have better ways to integrate all these

1196
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:35,199
things together. So, I personally believe SSD caching is going to be huge

1197
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,840
for the future and I'm really really excited to see what comes out of it, but

1198
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,360
I don't know what it means in terms of the competitive landscape. So, I would

1199
01:25:39,679 --> 01:25:44,880
worry a little bit about that. So, that's someone I that's something I had

1200
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:48,639
someone ask me about. Trying to decide between iPad and Surface. What do I

1201
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,760
think about RT? Should I wait for the Pro? Pro is going to run hotter. It's

1202
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:57,120
going to have less battery life by about half, which kind of kills the whole

1203
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:59,760
tablet experience for me. Um, if I was

1204
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:02,960
buying a tablet tomorrow, depends. If it's an entertainment device, if I'm

1205
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:08,480
just going to play games on it and I'm going to watch movies, I'd probably get an iPad. If I'm actually going to try

1206
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:13,040
and do any work on it, Surface, hands down. Surface RT

1207
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:15,679
done. For the giveaway, you should think about random tech questions because

1208
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:20,800
everyone is going to study Windows questions. That's fine. Go study Windows questions. You'll have a better chance

1209
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:24,000
to win. It's good. Uh, what do you think of the Kraken as a closed loop cooler

1210
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:27,679
compared to the H100i? I will be testing it soon and I will let you guys know.

1211
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:32,560
I'm also planning to put myself together like a a pretty inexpensive uh custom

1212
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:37,120
water cooling loop and throw that in there just to see how much further ahead

1213
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:39,840
it is versus something like an H100i. I'm not expecting it to be that

1214
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:42,360
different because we're mostly radiator limited when you only have a dual 120

1215
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:49,320
mil rad. Do I ever try what? Kihi with feta

1216
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:53,440
cheese. No, I think you mean

1217
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:56,480
Kiwi A65400 K or A105800 K for general

1218
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:58,480
gaming performance. Eh, both of those

1219
01:26:56,480 --> 01:27:04,159
are pretty meh. If you want to actually game, then get like a, you know, an

1220
01:27:01,159 --> 01:27:07,239
FX4100 and a video card. Um, if you want

1221
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:10,080
to run onboard, then I'd get the A10

1222
01:27:07,239 --> 01:27:13,560
probably. Happy New Year's. Not yet. Not yet, but it will be New Year's before I

1223
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:18,480
have another live stream. So, there you go. You know what? I think that's pretty

1224
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:22,159
much all I can do for tonight, guys. I had forgotten how hard this is to do

1225
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:26,239
without a co-host. So, thank you all for tuning in. And don't forget, we do live

1226
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:29,360
streams on Friday nights, my time at 9:00. And don't forget to subscribe to

1227
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,360
Linus Tech Tips for all your favorite unboxings, reviews, and other computer

1228
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:37,600
videos and cats and Twinkies and Oh, wait. I forgot. No,

1229
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:44,639
no, there's one more thing I have to do tonight. So you guys can stick around for it or not, but the AR drone video

1230
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:50,159
that I posted over a year ago with the AR drone

1231
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:53,520
1 has officially got more than 1 million

1232
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:58,440
views on YouTube, which means that the

1233
01:27:53,520 --> 01:28:02,199
AR drone itself has earned a place

1234
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:05,840
on the wall of legends.

1235
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:09,520
And I hate putting these hooks up in

1236
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:11,199
front of you all because last time I had

1237
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:16,880
some problems and then y'all made fun of me. But I'm going to do it anyway

1238
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:20,800
without a spotter this time. So, you know, things are going to get things are

1239
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:25,679
going to get pretty real before this is over. Pretty real, pretty dangerous. So,

1240
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:31,440
let's go ahead and find a nice place to put the AR drone V1. So, that's my

1241
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:36,880
second video. the only one on the Linus Tech Tips channel that's gotten over a

1242
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:40,960
million views on the YouTubes. So, that's very very exciting for us

1243
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:44,719
YouTubers. We're we're into the whole like views thing. That makes us pretty

1244
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:51,239
happy. So, let's go ahead and hang it kind of here, which means I'm going to

1245
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:53,920
need to put a thing in sort of here.

1246
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:57,360
Okay, I'm not doing any more Q&A for the rest of the night. So, if you guys are

1247
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:03,040
if you guys find this boring, then feel free to tune out.

1248
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:07,280
Okay. Yes, I know these hooks are a bad solution. Yes, I know they're destroying

1249
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:10,400
my pegboard, but I'm committed to it now. So, here we

1250
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:17,520
go. You can never say

1251
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:20,800
that I'm not committed to ideas, even if

1252
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,760
they're bad, once I commit to them. I

1253
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:27,360
would never have that said about me. They're really hard to put in

1254
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:31,440
because it just starts picking up the uh the pegboard.

1255
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:38,880
rather than just sort of going into the wall nicely. So there you go. Hook

1256
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:41,719
one for the AR drone. And then hook two

1257
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:46,280
will go probably right about here. Right

1258
01:29:43,639 --> 01:29:53,199
about maybe maybe let's go. Let's go there. Okay.

1259
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:56,199
It's going to go right there. Where's my duck?

1260
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:05,120
Thank you guys. Without you, I obviously can't get a million views on anything,

1261
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:10,239
so I appreciate that. You got to be kidding me. Did I hit a stud

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again? I realized that's why I was having so much trouble with that other

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one last time. Oh, no. I don't think I did. I think it's

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okay. I had someone at work bugging me about these hooks the next day after I

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did my first hook hanging thing where I put up this video card.

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You know what? Whatever you

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guys. All right, there we go. Parad Drone. You haven't even been able to see

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any of this the whole time. I just realized that. Parad Drone has been

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added to the legendary wall with the

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video card that also has a million views, the air drone with a million

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views, and the axe, which oh, I mean, zombies, right? You never know when

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you're going to need an axe. Especially in Canada, I might have

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to like chop down some trees and stuff. Good night, everyone.