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Getting all of your tech tips from one source means that you might miss crucial

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details, but watching four videos at once is just so inconvenient.

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So, hear me out then. How about we smash

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four amazing techtubers into just one video and they compete to build the best

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$1,000 gaming PC? It's a generous

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budget, but not so large that they can just spend carelessly. So, to help,

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we've sourced this pile of secondhand parts that we're going to price

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according to what's typical on marketplaces like Facebook, eBay, and

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Jawa, the online marketplace for new and used PC stuff, who sponsored this video,

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along with CSIC, who also pitched in to help us bring together our four amazing

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contestants. Let's meet them. I'm Danny from Ner Budget and I make content about

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PC builds, steel hunting, and sometimes land parties.

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>> My name is Tito. I have the YouTube channel Machiner Productions and I

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modify retro video game consoles. >> Hi, I'm Joyce from Tech Joyce and I make

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technology and car content. >> Hi, I'm Zach from ZTT and I make a ton

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of PC building content. Um, kind of similar to what we're going to do today.

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>> Where where did you get those in? For those that don't know, it's Zach's

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Tech Turf, where turf stands for tutorials, unboxings, reviews, and fun.

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But I don't say that on camera, so >> it'd be a lot to say each time. >> Yeah.

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>> What do you think is going to give you your edge today? >> Um, I think maybe my lack of knowledge

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of PCs, maybe. >> How do you think it's going to give you an edge?

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>> Uh, I have no idea. Uh, >> most of my content revolves around

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looking for used deals, so this was right up my alley. But I try to maximize

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the performance anytime I do a PC build. Uh, I have a lot of practice with that.

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I'd say >> aesthetics for sure. >> Yeah. You know, there's one competitor

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that I'm worried about that's going to beat me in terms of price to performance. It's Danny. Hopefully,

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there's points given out on the aesthetic realm, which that's what I'm

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going for. >> I think I'm the youngest out of all the contestants, so my hands will be faster

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and I'll probably think a little faster than them. So, hopefully my age will

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give me a bit of an edge. >> What is the CPU that you picked? >> I picked the Ryzen 57600. Initially, I

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went after this Ryzen 5 9600X listed for 185. I offered 10 bucks less and got

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declined. This ended up working out though because I later came across this

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Ryzen 57600 for 125, which worked out to

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be a way better deal. With the money saved, I then set my sights on a little bit more expensive graphics cards around

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$500. The best card I could find was this RX6950 XT.

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>> It was a AMD Ryzen 7900X. I mostly made

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all my decisions based off price because I really don't know too much about PC

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building. I picked the Ryzen 5 7600X. It

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was the best deal that I could find on Jawa at that specific moment in time. I

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actually found this RX7800 XT for $450 and that's actually a really

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good price. >> I picked the Ryzen 5 7600 X3D. Yeah,

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that one was just a really good deal. I decided to go with an NVIDIA graphics

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card because I'm hoping for the benchmarking it involves ray tracing.

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Please, Lionus. Whether you're buying parts, selling your gear, or flipping

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full custom builds, Java is the marketplace that's built specifically

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for PC gamers by people who actually care about gaming and PCs. Now, it's

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time to pick the rest of your computer. We've got a large stockpile of parts,

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but if there's something else that tickles your fancy, Games Master David

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will see what he can do and try to get you a fair price. You are allowed to go

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over your $1,000 budget. However, you're

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going to be evaluated based on your performance in three demanding games,

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and for every $10 you go over, it will cost you 1% of your total score. So, be

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frugal. To keep things balanced, we're going to be doing a snake draft starting

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with Danny, which was decided by random chance off camera and also because don't

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tell the others, but we just plain like them better.

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Go. Okay.

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Can I get the game master's help? Anything that's got red? I just need

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color. Got a little something up my sleeve here. >> Oh, that is red.

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>> Yeah. Can I get this? >> It'd be 95. >> Best I can do is 90.

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>> 90. 90 it is. I only have like $50 left, so I'm going to go really cheap.

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>> We are adding aesthetics to the rubric. Correct.

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>> I don't think so. >> That's the entire strategy.

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>> Wow, that's unfortunate. >> Someone might actually do it. I didn't

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think it was going to be possible. >> I mean, I wouldn't be nerd on a budget if I didn't stick to the budget.

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>> Five bucks. >> Five bucks. I like it. >> Question for you. What are we doing

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about power supplies? >> I'm so glad you asked in a totally

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unscripted way. Everyone is getting Oh my god, David.

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>> Yeah, you're good. You're good. A Focus GX 850 from our sponsor CIC. It's a

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member of their multi-awwardwinning platform with proven reliability and

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performance. They're ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 compliant, which means they're ready

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for all the latest graphics cards. Its OpusNC technology enhances internal

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cooling efficiency, meaning it's 135mm fan can run ultra quietly for longer,

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all while minimizing the amount of space it takes up. It's 80 plus gold

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certified, meaning it's highly efficient and it comes with a 10-year warranty. You can check out CIC and the rest of

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the parts we're using at the link in the video description. Now, let's build these PCs. Before we do that though,

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where did they land in terms of pricing, >> Danny? $9.99.

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>> Wow. Okay. >> Nerd on a budget, Joyce. 1034. Oh, wait,

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wait, wait. 1044. Zack 1041 and Tito

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1053. Everyone did pretty darn good. A lot better than I expected.

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that's so I could fit the cooler. Wicked smart.

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>> How you feeling about your choices? >> I think I went a little bit over budget, but I'm still very confident because I

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think my CPU is the best out of all four of them. >> Very nice. Any regrets?

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>> I think the the GPU. >> M. Do you regret just standing here and

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chit chatting while the timer's running? >> Oh, what? I'm supposed to get started

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now? >> Yeah. What are you waiting for? >> How about you, Danny? Any regrets?

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>> I'm pretty happy with it. I think I got a pretty beefy graphics card and a

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decent CPU to pair with it. So, uh, it's just some of the other parts might be

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to really hold you back. >> 100% what I was thinking. Thank you. >> Here's my deal.

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>> Okay. >> We will offer you a 2x multiplier on

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your aesthetic score. >> I will gladly take 3x. 4x final offer.

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>> Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. How are things going over here? Any regrets

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on your build? >> Maybe the case. Like, >> is this an intentional vibe?

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>> That was kind of a late breaking decision where I'm just going to kind of go with a really messy setup and that's

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going to be part of the vibe. >> Oo, I like it. You have only one stick of RAM.

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team, I probably would have helped you with that. But I like maybe I'll just

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let them cook. >> Like let him be cooked. I don't like your SSD, though.

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>> Well, that was strategic. I did not want to waste money on anything performance

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impacting. >> So, you'd rather that whoever ends up with this system, which by the way,

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people are going to end up with Yes. >> have a crappy SSD and lose their data

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down the road. >> Correct. >> Like my stock cooler here, >> dude. I approve of the stock cooler. My

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tech ick was people who spend a bunch of money on a fancy cooler when they

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haven't already minmaxed the rest of their hardware.

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>> That's true. Am I distracting you? >> Uh, a little bit, but it's okay. It's

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missing one standoff. the bottom right one. >> Nerd on a budget with attention to

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detail. Keep an eye on this one. There's a reason he's our favorite. I didn't

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mean what I said over there. You're doing great, too. >> Thank you. Wait, I've never done this

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before. I've only built like like six, seven PCs.

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and you wanted to race, >> I don't need hints. Don't worry. >> You're good.

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>> I know exactly what I'm doing right now. >> No, that does not seem right. Okay, I'm

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not going to ask for help cuz I feel like that that makes me lose automatically. There's nothing wrong

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with getting help. >> No, I have to do this alone. Okay. I'm

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definitely the least qualified out of the three contestants.

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>> Yeah. So, I picked this cooler because well, it looked really big. So, and I

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have apparently one of the I guess better CPUs out of the lot. So, probably

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need a lot of cooling power. The case is small, but it's missing the door. So,

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that gives me plenty of room to use this. >> The reason for my cooler is I was

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definitely thinking about aesthetics. Okay. >> I guess the RZ 400. The RZ. Is that Is

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that where we're going with? I'm also not above using the CPU cooler manual.

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Do you ever use these? >> Not on this. >> It's showing me exactly which hardware

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to use and whatnot every time. >> I like it. >> Yeah. Like >> I respect it. You know what? I like his

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style so much that I'm going to increase his aesthetics points multiplier to 5x.

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>> No, no, no. We were at five. >> Were we? >> Yeah. I think we're up to seven.

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>> I am returned. >> Actually, I have thermal paste now.

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>> How do you know what I brought you isn't better? I'm going to go with these cuz this looks fancy.

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>> Oh, I'm being dismissed. I see. I think there's something to the whole passive

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aggressive generation, you know, with the whole like COVID lockdown and the

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lack of social skills. It's like they can't tell things like they're standing

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too close. They're making people uncomfortable. How you doing?

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>> Uh, good. I think I'm making good progress. >> I'm just putting all the motherboard

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screws in, which is like one of the more timeconuming >> Yeah.

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>> parts of it. Uh-huh. >> Um, but I think I'm good with that now.

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Unflapable. See, this is why he's our favorite. >> You can't say that.

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>> What the hell is that supposed to be? >> Usually it turns out fine, but I think I

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got a little nervous cuz he's right beside me. >> I don't want to put any pressure on you

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guys, but you are way behind Danny. Am I helping with the pressure?

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>> Um, nope. >> Lionus, I would like to run something by

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you here. This is a sponsored component. >> Yep. >> Very top of the line.

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>> Mhm. There's one problem for my build with it. It's only black cables. I

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brought some cable extensions. I got red, but I'm going to plug these into

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these. How much do these cost? >> $0. >> Should I trust him?

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>> I'm going to believe him that these were $0. And for being such an amazing deal

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hunter, I'm going to reward him by increasing his aesthetics multiplier to

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already almost done? What What are people doing? modern computers. Like

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everything just goes on the motherboard. Yeah, that's great. I just mean like

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we're going to have to rely on some of the other folks to do our extras for Floatplane. LMG.gg/flatlane.

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You get the bonus multiplier. >> Wo wo wo. >> Come on, man. Come on. We still got

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inserts to shoot. >> I mean, I don't care. It's not my computer. >> 3 2 1 Okay, it's even plugged in.

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tracking that. >> Yeah. >> Excellent. I'll take that.

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>> Oh, great. Oh no. >> Danny, do you think you could beat Linus

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in a buildoff? >> I honestly don't know how quickly Linus can build a PC. I usually don't try to

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speed through PC builds. I just kind of go at a leisurely pace. >> If this is your leisurely pace, I think

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you'd kick my ass. You just need a quality ratcheting screwdriver.

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>> Wow, you've made a lot of progress. >> So, nothing fits. Like, nothing's long

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enough to reach the bottom of that. >> Yeah. So, what you need is

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>> like a little a little stand on there. >> You better believe it. >> Okay, now I got to take everything out

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then. >> Can I just leave it like this? cuz I look I got 1 2 3 4 5 six six screws

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already and that's a lot of screws. >> That's you know that is a lot of screws.

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>> Okay. Oh, the audience. Oh, he gave a thumbs up. So, I think we're good. Did

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everybody go Radeon? Wow, it's almost like that's the way to go when you're

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trying to build on a budget. Speaking of GPUs, all of our contestants picked up

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their GPUs on Jawa. Jawa makes it easy to list and sell full builds or parts

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with buyer and seller protection, lower fees, and a community that's actively

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searching for gaming PCs. And this is all without getting hit with is this

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still available messages a thousand freaking times. The only thing I don't

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love about it is this rear fan. That is specifically why I purchased three fans

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for the competition to make sure that they're all black. >> The aesthetics is the last thing on my

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checklist here. Um, I'm just trying to figure out the wiring and making sure

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that everything works. >> I do know that they were talking at some point about selling these on Jawa. If we

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get points for that, then an aesthetic build could potentially help me out. So,

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it might it might actually matter at some point. Gosh, we have our beautiful

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sea sonic power supply here. I was sure to put the fan facing downward.

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>> So, I chose a 3080 because I was looking on the website and all the 4070s were

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like $600. So, I went one generation behind and this one is like basically

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the same performance for like a h 100red bucks cheaper. Wait, these are not like

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screwed in. Do I have to rip them out? Do I need help again?

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breakaways. So, basically, I don't have to unscrew anything.

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>> I'm wondering if I should help Joyce with something right now. >> No.

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>> So young though cuz your skin's really good. >> Why did you use the lower slot on your

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>> Yeah. Come on, Glenn. >> Come on.

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>> First try. Professional. >> We're trying to find something to close

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the side panel with. >> Oh, brilliant. >> Oh, we have one.

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>> Yay. >> Yes. Good work. >> Wow. >> Two.

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>> Celebrating. Was that a boot? Are they done? That's really crooked. Really?

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>> I mean, wow. >> Thanks. >> That's a computer.

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>> Yeah, I did it all first try and I didn't get any help.

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>> I don't think your motherboard is all the way down. >> No, no, no, no, no. Don't show that.

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professional.

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>> Why didn't you screw them in all the way? >> I did. I thought I did.

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>> Oh, no. >> Damn it. Okay, wait. Cut all of this

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out. Give me give me the screw. Wait, guys. I don't know what he's doing right

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now. He's trying to touch my build.

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>> So, see, all I did was turn it a few more rotations, and you can see now the

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motherboard doesn't shift around like that.

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>> Right. >> Do you need me to check anything else? >> No, no, no, no, no. I Yes, you can.

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Thank you. >> Now, I feel like I need to check everyone's homework. Can I just

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>> Yeah, you can take a look at it. >> Oh, yeah. Look at that. All the screws

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are in even Oh, wow. Got nice little cable management in here and everything.

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Quality. Now it just comes down to performance.

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What is this situation here? >> Oh, is that it? >> It goes in. Are you sure?

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>> I just forgot to screw it in all the way. I think >> I found problems with everyone else's

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build, so it feels unfair if I don't find something here. >> Feel free. You'll find something.

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>> Oh, a classic rookie error.

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>> Error. >> It's the IO shield. >> That is not an error. This was not supplied, sir. I mean, when you buy a

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secondhand motherboard, that's the first thing you got to check. >> Yeah, I mistakenly trusted the seller.

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>> That's why you got to shop on Jawa. >> Yeah. See, I would never put a

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motherboard without an IO shield into my inventory. But that's what you guys do.

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>> See, that's kind of an error, but this is actually an error.

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>> No, no, you just don't make it worse, man. >> I'm No, I'm helping. I'm helping. Look,

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see, I fixed it. >> Thank you for the tech tip. >> Yeah, that's that's my turf.

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I'm also going to pretend that I don't have to push down hard on this to keep

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the cable bulge down. Here's how we're looking. This is my GPU. And the reason

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I chose it was it was the most expensive one I could afford within my budget.

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>> Pencils down in five 4 3 two one.

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>> Done. I'm done.

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>> Okay. Moment of truth. Here

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we go. We're good.

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>> Okay. Is it even plugged in? What? Damn.

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You guys set me up. >> Yeah, it's plugged in. >> Okay. Cut off. Take out the first cut.

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Just remove it all. Delete all the footage. >> Oh,

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>> hopefully I did the IO, right? Oh, okay. Got an LED.

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>> Oh, right out of the gate. I got to say immediately I want to give you bonus

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points for leaving the $22 sticker on your case. As you can see, aesthetics

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was maybe kind of lower on the priority list. >> Yeah. And even cooling, you got like

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half of your fans in here. One of them's not spinning. I didn't actually catch

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your specs. I was so distracted that by how ugly it is. So maybe it's like a

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going to be a sleeper underdog. >> That's what I'm hoping, Victor.

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>> It was the first computer to work. >> Of course, no one cares what the tower

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looks like. If the monitor looks great, oh, that's already a good sign. And most

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impressively, this isn't even running at low settings. This is 1440p ultra no ray

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tracing. It's actually Zach's machine that's making all the noises bothering

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me right now. It's going to be hard to beat. Or is it? If there were points for

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aesthetics, which there aren't, this would have lots of points. And it's also

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quiet. I don't agree that it's quiet.

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shall we? Oh, this is bad news

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for Tito because even though there's no

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points for aesthetics, there are points for the game looking better. If only

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Zach had tuned it. >> Oh,

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>> what' you press? >> I pressed the sabotage Zack button

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>> for stealing the similar abbreviations to my channel.

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whatever problems we find with her machine. >> I'm scared. You're going to say

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something crazy. >> Something crazy like, "Hey, you should

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probably put all the screws in." >> That was not my fault. The screwdriver

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you gave me was faulty. >> Oh,

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>> go ahead. Show Show me. >> Well, I threw it out. No, no, I threw it out cuz it was faulty.

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>> All right. All right. Well, why don't we take a look at your computer and see if anything else is faulty?

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>> You're going to be blown away. >> Your side panel's upside down. The AMD

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logo on your cooler's upside down, too. What's up with that? >> Why do you find problems with

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everything? Just play the game and you'll see. >> I mean, all you have to do is beat a low

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performing PC with no side panel and one that crashes.

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>> Can you commentate on this area right here? >> Yeah, this area right here is looking

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pretty damn good, not going to lie.

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It says like 75 FPS and your 1% lows.

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worse. It kind of smells. It smells like

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burning. We got one exhaust fan. No intakes. I really don't know how long

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this is going to last. Tech Choice, builder of temporary computers. Which

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brings us finally to this. You know what? I can't find that much to

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criticize. It's a little on the louder side, but like is that really that big

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of a problem? And even if the performance isn't the best, right? Like

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look at this shirt. Look at how he wears that. I like these glasses, too. Just,

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you know, of course, it's all going to come down to performance, which once

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again. Wow. Really good. I want to take

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a moment to recognize that for $1,000, every single one of these systems is

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delivering an outstanding experience in what is still an extremely demanding

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game at 1440p ultimate quality. Some are

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a little more outstanding than the others. And uh I think this might be one

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of them. I don't want to criticize cuz you're my

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favorite. I don't love that your CPU is running at 95°.

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What? Ready? Three, two, one, benchmark.

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>> Oh my god. I'm I'm absolutely cooked.

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>> Oh, it crashed again. >> Who configured this?

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>> Who configured it? I mean, you picked all the parts. We just watched you do it.

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>> Yeah, but you know, the parts were working when I showed up here.

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>> Do you want to just come out and say it? >> Um, you can say it.

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>> I can say it. >> Yes. >> You're a poor sport.

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provided to Zach. I was just ribbon him before. So, we're going to do a quick

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receipt of his GPU. And in the meantime,

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we're grabbing another kit of memory just in case this one's a little bit on

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the flaky side. Why is this 6 gig transfers per second? Okay. Well, you

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kind of lucked out. Oh, wow. You just got a performance boost. Whoops. That

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was not my intention, but I don't have time to go change it again.

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>> I just fixed your computer, Mr. >> This feels great already. I can tell.

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Massive upset in first place for

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performance in Cyber Punk. Zack with the come from behind victory. He went from

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zero to 95 in second place for raw

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performance. We've got Danny the nerd on

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a budget stayed within his budget. H

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Zach not so much. Neither did Joyce for that matter. So, she's basically out of

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the running for first place, but could still end up with a podium finish

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because yeah, that's really not that close. But there's still more

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benchmarking to go. Let's give him a bonus. Let's give him a nice guy bonus.

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10 FPS. I still am like blown away at

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how good these machines are. Well, most

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of them. >> All of them. Come on. >> Kind of tempted to change Zach's memory

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speed back to 5600. I'm going to change it back to 5600 for

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the rest. How much lower do you think it's going to be, Lannis? I would say 2

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FPS. >> That could be the difference. I was thinking 2 to 3 FPS combined with your

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4% overbudget penalty >> times 11 aesthetic

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>> bonus, >> right? >> I think we're still good. >> And your aesthetic bonus is zero though.

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>> I was not told this. >> Never came up. >> The fact that it's so close is why I

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really feel that we need to double

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check. Oh my god. How'd it go up?

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>> Time for our second game. I'm rooting for you. Hold tab. Ready? 3 2 1 go. Wow.

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You're getting kind of like the Canucks. Kind of hard to root for. Whoa. We could

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have an upset here. The nerd on a budget is on a roll with a score of 145 with

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Zach's Tech Turf with 130, Joyce coming

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in at 122. And once again, Tito was

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there. 93. That's really good. And it is really

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good. Our budget was limited to $1,000.

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And unlike a game console, which sure could also run Returnal as long as it's

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a PlayStation, these machines can do anything you could possibly want them to

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do. Video editing, browsing the internet. The hell else is it that

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people do with computers these days? Now, it's time for the big shocker

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finish. Cuz see, I was piling on my Palito before, but he actually has the

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best performing CPU out of the bunch. And this is interesting. Our last

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benchmark kind of CPU dependent. Every

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everyone go ahead and press the check mark. Yeah, I'm rooting for you.

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>> Yeah. What? Fingers crossed. >> It's already less than. >> While we wait for this last benchmark to

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run, I want to get everyone to sign their machine because if you guys were

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paying attention earlier, you will know this. All of these are going to be for

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sale from java.gg. Choose wisely. Now

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for the results. Coming in first, Nerd on a budget. Unfortunately, Joyce's X3D

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chip just didn't cut the mustard here.

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Zach is in the 300 FPS range as well.

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Tito was there. Even a 10 FPS bonus

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wasn't enough. Man, I tried. I really

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tried. And now it's time for me and

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David to try and do math. >> Aesthetic score.

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>> Yeah. equals zero. >> Yeah. >> Times 11. There you go. Yep. That's

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added. >> And did you give Tito his 10 extra bonus FPS on everything?

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>> We have come up with the final scores. In fourth place and looking very fine

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and kind doing it is Tito with a score

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of 228 >> out of a possible 300.

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>> Out of a possible 300. >> That's good. That's good.

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>> That is really good. After correcting for a slight budgeting overshoot, Joyce

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comes in third with 259 points out of a

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possible 300. And I think it is actually

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worth noting here just how close our

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three podium finishers were. Which is to say that if you weren't comparing them

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side by side in benchmark tests, you would be more than happy with any of

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them. It's just that you would be ever so slightly happier with

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Zach's Tech Turf. He managed a score of

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271 and that's in spite of the fact that his

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11x aesthetics multiplier was multiplied by zero.

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>> That was the whole strategy line, >> which leaves

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with 297 points out of a possible 300 points. V-

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nerd on a budget. Danny,

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undisputed intercontinental champion of

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building a computer for exactly exactly

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$1,000. >> Give it a little bit, you know, some

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personality. He's just a black box. So, >> how are you feeling at the end of the

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day? >> Uh, it honestly went how I thought it would. Uh, nerd on a budget. I mean, he

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knows how to maximize his budget. >> I'm a little disappointed with how I

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did. I definitely did not choose the right GPU. So, for next time, I would go

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with the Radeon card. >> Kind of expected those results. Uh maybe

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I should just stick with uh modding retro consoles, but had a whole lot of

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fun. >> How do you think you did? >> Pretty happy with the build. I like the way it turned out aesthetically. Wish

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the aesthetics would have mattered a little bit more than they did. >> Audience, if the aesthetics matter to

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you, comment down below. Let them know >> they do. Um I'd probably get a little

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bit nicer of a case. Um you know, get a little bit better aesthetics and uh

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maybe one that has a side panel, too. So, >> how does it feel to be the champion?

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>> Uh, it feels pretty good. >> What do you think was your key to

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victory? >> Throwing a big chunk of money at the graphics card. Uh, that helped.

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>> Other than your own build, what was your favorite one today? >> I like Zach's. It look It looks the

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nicest for sure. People would pick a slightly worse performing PC with like

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twice the aesthetics, right? So, >> 11 times the >> 11 times. Thanks Jawa

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>> and CIC >> and C Sonic for making this possible.

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And massive shout out to you guys for coming all the way up here. If you guys

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enjoyed this video, maybe go check out the time we challenged our writers to

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configure thousand builds. There was a bit of extra challenge in that one in

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that they weren't allowed to use the internet to look at any pricing

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whatsoever. They're just going in blind.