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you ever get a gift that's kind of a burden on my recent trip to Micron they

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allowed me to build my own RAM to put in my gaming PC unfortunately it's ddr5

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which means I'm gonna have to upgrade but because I don't exactly play the

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same games that we use to review products the only way for me to know

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which way to go team blue or team red is

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to build the very best of Intel and the very best of AMD and drag race them

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against each other in popular games like Anno 1800 and Untitled Goose game what a

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jerk with AMD and Intel so close in performance these days it could go

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LTT

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right out of the gate we got to figure out who's building AMD and who's

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building Intel which do you want to build I want to build Intel but I'm

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guessing you're going to flip it on me and make me build AMD okay well rock

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paper scissors you when you build Intel you lose you build AMD paper scissors I

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forgot I'm sorry well then I I win you default yeah okay fine one one okay rock

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paper scissors I forget which one of the building I don't know you should uh oh

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you lost I lost so you're building AMD why don't you want to build AMD what's

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wrong with AMD it's their first time going LGA and I'm sure that's perfectly

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fine yeah but I've never built an LGA AMD system I forgot you've never owned

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an AMD system I owned a Phenom like ages

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ago when I was in high school but I bought a pre-built to make this challenge as Fair as possible we've gone

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out of our way to completely isolate the CPU as our variable that means that a

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everything about these systems is as similar as possible GPU power supply

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even Cooling and second we've gone

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really high end like almost every one of these components is in a different

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performance class than what I would put in my own system super Overkill the one

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exception is the case we've actually chosen Corsair's 5000d airflow which is

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a pretty reasonably priced 175 dollar mid Tower and the reason for that is

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that it's just really well designed we didn't want to have cooling be an issue

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because in the final deployment in my server rack it's not going to be there

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is one difference that you guys might call us on our Intel System is using a

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slightly lower tier motherboard than our AMD system but Labs assures us that the

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performance between the Maximus z790 hero and extreme is identical unless

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maybe you were putting it under liquid nitrogen for extreme overclocking and

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then another difference for our awesome AMD Crosshair extreme is we get a bunch

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of onboard Gen 5 drives with the Intel one I'm sorry you're gonna have to use

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an add-in card we've also got better land pleb I know we've got better land

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on this too it's got 10 gig and two and a half gig well that doesn't really

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matter because I can just put a 10 gig network card oh wait high-end

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motherboards don't have any PCIe slots anymore we've got three what happened

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what is this trend you've got three you've got one for your graphics card

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you've got one for your PCIe Gen 5 drive this is my graphics card one to be

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covered by my stupid graphics card and then one more well you're not going to

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use a 40 90 though right no I'm going to stick with my 30 90 and it's water

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cooled so it's actually not going to be you can probably do that and then you gotta room for a network card so you're

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okay uh I uh mine will be completely

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full yeah you'll live the dream that a lot of people want to experience of

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filling out their motherboard slots what kind of dreams do you have surgery and

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fill all the slots it feels great can you imagine Mommy I had a dream last

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night I put I filled all the PCIe slots in my computer on the Intel side of

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things I'm going to be running the core I9 13900k a 24 core consumer platform

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motherboard if you told me about this thing like three four years ago I'd have

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said you were freaking nuts but it also

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isn't quite what it sounds eight of those cores are high performance P cores

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while 16 of them are high efficiency

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e-course what this means in practice though since almost no games are

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designed for more than a course is that it's a gaming Beast while also having a

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pretty good amount of grunt for Creative tasks like competitive cinebench running

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meanwhile in team red I've got a 7950x I may only have 16 cores but each one hey

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each of mine each of mine is stronger than yours I don't need efficiency cores

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I don't have to cheat to get the bigger number I'm just pumping straight power

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into this thing then why didn't you want to build the AMD one

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that's a good point I actually really like the way their cool new CPU looks

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with the weird uh IHS on top with the cutouts it looks cooler my CPU looks

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cooler than yours the best part of choosing your teams arbitrarily with

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rock paper scissors is like the trash talk that totally means nothing I know

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I'm not taking this nice poor people CPU

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I'm a Loser yeah actually you've got the poor people CPU mine's more expensive

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this thing's like 690 dollars yours is like 6 30.

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look that extra 60 bucks okay again in

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the spirit of completely removing bottlenecks this is a fifteen hundred

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dollar m.2 drive not the kind of thing I would recommend for the average gaming

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PC we're going to be using the sabrin rocket 4 plus in its eight terabyte

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configuration that's right ladies and gentlemen up to 7

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000 megabytes a second read six thousand megabytes a second rights PCIe Gen 4 and

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enough space to hold all but the most excessive of Humble Bundle enhanced

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Steam libraries how'd you get your cover off uh with a

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screwdriver oh my God it's all down here yeah

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yeah I know that's why it's a thousand dollar money board what is this thing

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oh um no wonder I don't understand it's for

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young people yeah gen Z for cooling we've gone with the h-150i

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elite capellix from Corsair this is a

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triple 120 millimeter AIO which means compared to my custom loop at home it's

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not quite on par but this is enough to

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handle either of these CPUs at full turbo indefinitely so this will give us

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a best case scenario for performance wait are you getting ahead of me over

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there no what are you doing I'm I have to put the stand ups on oh wow building

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on Intel is so fast and convenient my standoffs are already in okay don't to

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be clear that's actually not the case that's only because Nick from Logistics

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put this together better for me oh and I've got to change the you knew that one

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was going to be plus yeah we gotta change the bracket and everything we

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colluded

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all right

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do not modify not modified oh man it says old on it

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you got the old what is that I don't know you get the old garbage one say old

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box on you my why do you have that I don't have the old ones man these are

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heavy who's putting these stickers on our graphics card probably Gary what am

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I gonna need I'm gonna need three oh my

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God three slots this is ridiculous huge

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what is there to say about the RTX 4090

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it's really expensive but it's fast so if we want to know what

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the fastest CPU is we've got to put the fastest GPU in even if I don't end up

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upgrading to it which I won't I have committed as of today

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even if NVIDIA sends me one of these for free

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I will not put it in my computer so long that my USB cable gets in the

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way and I don't want to bend that like at all all right

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who needed any other PCIe slots anyway

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boom I could technically put something in

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here but it would sit right in front of my intake fans which would be a big

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brain move with a 40 90. big brain

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now let's talk about powering this thing there's been a lot of discussion around

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whether it's the adapters or whether it's the spec of the connector or

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whatever else the case may be what we all agree on is that you want as Little

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Bend in this cable as possible so

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I think I can close the panel

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that looks pretty good oh right and I guess now's a good time to talk about

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our power supply we chose the prime TX 1300 from see Sonic why because it's the

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best 80 plus titanium 1300 Watts support

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for the latest 12-pin PCIe connectors what more could you possibly want you

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get two of those connectors you get two of them in the box and you get it for

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SLI you get a Gantry no it's for when the 50 90 comes out and you need two of

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those to deliver 1200 watts floor time

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oh I found an old GPU uh Voodoo uh that

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you could plug into the wall God we're gonna go time's a flat circle I found

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some on eBay for like 300 bucks or something like that okay fine so cool

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buying 300 E-Waste now yeah this is my life now that we've reached system

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memory we're at a bit of a Crossroads we can either each go ahead with the most

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optimal kit for our respective platforms so I've got a 6800 Mega transfer per

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second kit from G skill while I've got a 6 000 Mega transfer per second kit but

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with lower latency right I've got 30 CL 30 you're at cl34 I think all right or

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because I'm going to be using

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this memory that I made myself at Micron

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we could both go ahead with this I think we should use this stuff it's really

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cool and that's what you're going to be using anyway right like that's what you're going to put in your personal rig

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so it doesn't matter what either of these expect for because that's what

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you're going to use but in the spirit of telling the people which one's the

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fastest in these weird games in one place Fair all right we go with this with the

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Labs verified stuff okay hello buddy you in there yeah you're in

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there ddr5 likes to go in the slot like that

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no problem it's happy one concern we might actually

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blow the breaker trying to run these two machines here on the table like this no

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you might have to grab power from somewhere else the 4090s ploof it's only

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like 500 watts on the d450

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yeah yeah it takes like a thousand of low breaker

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1500. computers David says 1500 we're

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good now all we need is to close up the panel and through the miracle of movie

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Magic everything is set up we're done our bioses are updated we've got the

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latest drivers we've got XMP and Expo enabled for the best possible

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performance with our RAM kits and we even downloaded some of the games that I

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wanted to test thankfully uh CS go just finished you know I'm gonna take up

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professional CS go so I need to make sure I get up

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what you got something to say AMD boy I

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I can't be a professional CS go player and what and what and what just saying

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it's a lot of time you don't have time to go be a professional CS go player

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nice recovery yeah nice recovery

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yeah I was gonna say I'll say it

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everywhere of course the most important game yeah stop downloading rocket League

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the how big is your penis game okay it's off already sick oh wait you've she

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started already yeah it starts that doesn't even matter because I'm gonna

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have the highest number in temperatures maybe I'm already

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getting up there 89.90c basically well I'm at 78. yeah come on bring it on

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pulling 235 Watts wait are you serious

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my CPU is not going to get as hot as yours uncool Intel literally uncool uh

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38 784 37 392. yes I send a bench faster

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now technically for a full 10 minute run AMD will do a

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little better it'll get like 300 more points in a multi-threaded workload but

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it's really close okay what do you want to start with well you want to play

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Counter-Strike Survival Let's play Counter-Strike fine let's play Counter-Strike CS go server D does too

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let's go okay all right there we go join

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game problem solved two thousand uh it says there's a requires a password what

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do you mean and my mouse is gone now what what are you talking about look can

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you see my mouse and it says requires passwords it must

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be because of AMD I can't even cancel you know what it's it's the connect

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commands you have the server browser up in front of it

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I call CT the worst part is my Mouse is gone now yeah well you should

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have thought of that I know you were trying to Red to the team red more like

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team dead and I can't talk to F4 because it's a steam game so they use the stupid

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like alt F10 or whatever it is so I'm just gonna force close oh what FPS you

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get 395 395 FPS at 4K 400. let's go

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let's go GPU 240 260 Watts it's like

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nothing surprisingly actually no my GPU oh my God my client needs to update

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online it's a waste of time literally any other day we should do this well no

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no this is not hard we just have to do it it's not but it's taking too much

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time we heard it in a game you're in the game wait we're going to need to be able

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to go into the same game later anyway so we might as well solve it

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why is Chrome not on these okay the next time I walk up to a computer and only

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edges on it I'm going to lose my all right how many kills you got uh 35.

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what What's your FPS though uh oh yeah I'm getting like 360

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390 it fluctuates a lot but you know we're hitting 100. no don't wait I got

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this guy oh come on yeah yours is dipping down to like 338 oh 282

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yeah you're a little ahead oh my God that was

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awful please editor do not show what just happened there so I'm like 360

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three 350. you know what I'm a little

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ahead I think it fluctuates I'm a little ahead I don't know if oh someone I got a

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shotgun so I'm not a lot of use at this range um it fluctuates a lot it's so close I

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don't think it matters by the way you're dead wow that's how it gets me by

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cheating isn't that great

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the fact that we can be like into AMD oh

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yeah and don't be wrong and idiots yeah they're both really good I love it yeah

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I love it that's what real competition will do for you

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La Fortune no he's a pirate so that

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sounds awesome why don't you want to play his jeans no that's not the point

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the point is he's an NPC yo why can't he plays a pirate though why can't I start

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I don't know some additional content is enabled which not all players own

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yes

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the DLC for this game is really good

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okay so uh you're gonna want to go wait what why you go why you go move

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everything around like that hold it just okay just just chill for a second okay

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did you man did you change the you changed the angle I just scrolled out

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and then I started moving things Nicholas ploof how on Earth are we

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supposed to look at the same thing now so where do I go oh my God why can't I

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here what is w what did you just I just pressed W okay do your thing

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wow this is a dead heat yeah 78 77

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literally within one FPS yeah and it's

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fluctuating like I I've seen mine stick at 79 but yours was up yeah 78. what's

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up and again 113 120 honestly yeah it

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might be AMD not by a ton I think it's

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AMD you're definitely winning in 90 in in minimums as well to be clear both of

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us are getting over 100 FPS average in an RTS game

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which is fine everything's cranked to ultra yeah 4K

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like this is overkill like look how busy these cities are when you turn up all

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the details it's kind of wild actually how much is going on Halo Halo Halo okay

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we happen to be looking at exactly the same things right now my God it's close

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it's like 5 FPS difference but you're winning in both average and 99 percent

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I would never be able to tell the difference between these I want to say

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uh Intel is doing ever so slightly better it's a narrow win but it's a win

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yeah very narrow slightly an Intel's favor

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how on Earth are we gonna make a decision here that's your decision it's

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your computer playing actual games like

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experiencing it there is functionally no

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difference no they both feel great um the only real difference is probably the price mine's cheaper yours is

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cheaper the motherboards can be about the same

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price but your your CPU is like fifty dollars cheaper

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I mean that's not much man it's not much it's honestly not and the the RAM is

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pretty similar you're gonna put the Micron in for Black Friday my CPU is on

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promo for six hundred dollars mine's more than that 6.99 it's on sale

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for by Two Dollars Dollar 25 and you can get a combo with a motherboard buy one

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by default then for rental my CPU is cheaper okay fine yeah I mean it's and

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it's significantly cheaper it's like 100 yeah it's over 50 bucks that's uh that's

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enough and you get a second generation ddr5 memory controller what timeline is

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this maybe it's time to go back I'm going back to Intel let's go wait wait

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wait hold the phone AMD is coming in hot

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with the price Cuts over the weekend they dropped the 7950x from 700 all the

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way down to 575 making things even worse

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for Intel at least in this race they're probably pretty happy with the sales the

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13900k is now out of stock at that lower

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price of 625 so even if you could get it

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for that much AMD is still 50 bucks lower AMD then yeah seems like a

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AMD versus the best of Intel it wasn't quite as even that time around

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come a long way it's come a long way what a guy

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what a guy
