you ever get a gift that's kind of a burden on my recent trip to Micron they
allowed me to build my own RAM to put in my gaming PC unfortunately it's ddr5
which means I'm gonna have to upgrade but because I don't exactly play the
same games that we use to review products the only way for me to know
which way to go team blue or team red is
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against each other in popular games like Anno 1800 and Untitled Goose game what a
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right out of the gate we got to figure out who's building AMD and who's
building Intel which do you want to build I want to build Intel but I'm
guessing you're going to flip it on me and make me build AMD okay well rock
paper scissors you when you build Intel you lose you build AMD paper scissors I
forgot I'm sorry well then I I win you default yeah okay fine one one okay rock
paper scissors I forget which one of the building I don't know you should uh oh
you lost I lost so you're building AMD why don't you want to build AMD what's
wrong with AMD it's their first time going LGA and I'm sure that's perfectly
fine yeah but I've never built an LGA AMD system I forgot you've never owned
an AMD system I owned a Phenom like ages
ago when I was in high school but I bought a pre-built to make this challenge as Fair as possible we've gone
out of our way to completely isolate the CPU as our variable that means that a
everything about these systems is as similar as possible GPU power supply
even Cooling and second we've gone
really high end like almost every one of these components is in a different
performance class than what I would put in my own system super Overkill the one
exception is the case we've actually chosen Corsair's 5000d airflow which is
a pretty reasonably priced 175 dollar mid Tower and the reason for that is
that it's just really well designed we didn't want to have cooling be an issue
because in the final deployment in my server rack it's not going to be there
is one difference that you guys might call us on our Intel System is using a
slightly lower tier motherboard than our AMD system but Labs assures us that the
performance between the Maximus z790 hero and extreme is identical unless
maybe you were putting it under liquid nitrogen for extreme overclocking and
then another difference for our awesome AMD Crosshair extreme is we get a bunch
of onboard Gen 5 drives with the Intel one I'm sorry you're gonna have to use
an add-in card we've also got better land pleb I know we've got better land
on this too it's got 10 gig and two and a half gig well that doesn't really
matter because I can just put a 10 gig network card oh wait high-end
motherboards don't have any PCIe slots anymore we've got three what happened
what is this trend you've got three you've got one for your graphics card
you've got one for your PCIe Gen 5 drive this is my graphics card one to be
covered by my stupid graphics card and then one more well you're not going to
use a 40 90 though right no I'm going to stick with my 30 90 and it's water
cooled so it's actually not going to be you can probably do that and then you gotta room for a network card so you're
okay uh I uh mine will be completely
full yeah you'll live the dream that a lot of people want to experience of
filling out their motherboard slots what kind of dreams do you have surgery and
fill all the slots it feels great can you imagine Mommy I had a dream last
night I put I filled all the PCIe slots in my computer on the Intel side of
things I'm going to be running the core I9 13900k a 24 core consumer platform
motherboard if you told me about this thing like three four years ago I'd have
said you were freaking nuts but it also
isn't quite what it sounds eight of those cores are high performance P cores
while 16 of them are high efficiency
e-course what this means in practice though since almost no games are
designed for more than a course is that it's a gaming Beast while also having a
pretty good amount of grunt for Creative tasks like competitive cinebench running
meanwhile in team red I've got a 7950x I may only have 16 cores but each one hey
each of mine each of mine is stronger than yours I don't need efficiency cores
I don't have to cheat to get the bigger number I'm just pumping straight power
into this thing then why didn't you want to build the AMD one
that's a good point I actually really like the way their cool new CPU looks
with the weird uh IHS on top with the cutouts it looks cooler my CPU looks
cooler than yours the best part of choosing your teams arbitrarily with
rock paper scissors is like the trash talk that totally means nothing I know
I'm not taking this nice poor people CPU
I'm a Loser yeah actually you've got the poor people CPU mine's more expensive
this thing's like 690 dollars yours is like 6 30.
look that extra 60 bucks okay again in
the spirit of completely removing bottlenecks this is a fifteen hundred
dollar m.2 drive not the kind of thing I would recommend for the average gaming
PC we're going to be using the sabrin rocket 4 plus in its eight terabyte
configuration that's right ladies and gentlemen up to 7
000 megabytes a second read six thousand megabytes a second rights PCIe Gen 4 and
enough space to hold all but the most excessive of Humble Bundle enhanced
Steam libraries how'd you get your cover off uh with a
screwdriver oh my God it's all down here yeah
yeah I know that's why it's a thousand dollar money board what is this thing
oh um no wonder I don't understand it's for
young people yeah gen Z for cooling we've gone with the h-150i
elite capellix from Corsair this is a
triple 120 millimeter AIO which means compared to my custom loop at home it's
not quite on par but this is enough to
handle either of these CPUs at full turbo indefinitely so this will give us
a best case scenario for performance wait are you getting ahead of me over
there no what are you doing I'm I have to put the stand ups on oh wow building
on Intel is so fast and convenient my standoffs are already in okay don't to
be clear that's actually not the case that's only because Nick from Logistics
put this together better for me oh and I've got to change the you knew that one
was going to be plus yeah we gotta change the bracket and everything we
colluded
all right
do not modify not modified oh man it says old on it
you got the old what is that I don't know you get the old garbage one say old
box on you my why do you have that I don't have the old ones man these are
heavy who's putting these stickers on our graphics card probably Gary what am
I gonna need I'm gonna need three oh my
God three slots this is ridiculous huge
what is there to say about the RTX 4090
it's really expensive but it's fast so if we want to know what
the fastest CPU is we've got to put the fastest GPU in even if I don't end up
upgrading to it which I won't I have committed as of today
even if NVIDIA sends me one of these for free
I will not put it in my computer so long that my USB cable gets in the
way and I don't want to bend that like at all all right
who needed any other PCIe slots anyway
boom I could technically put something in
here but it would sit right in front of my intake fans which would be a big
brain move with a 40 90. big brain
now let's talk about powering this thing there's been a lot of discussion around
whether it's the adapters or whether it's the spec of the connector or
whatever else the case may be what we all agree on is that you want as Little
Bend in this cable as possible so
I think I can close the panel
that looks pretty good oh right and I guess now's a good time to talk about
our power supply we chose the prime TX 1300 from see Sonic why because it's the
best 80 plus titanium 1300 Watts support
for the latest 12-pin PCIe connectors what more could you possibly want you
get two of those connectors you get two of them in the box and you get it for
SLI you get a Gantry no it's for when the 50 90 comes out and you need two of
those to deliver 1200 watts floor time
oh I found an old GPU uh Voodoo uh that
you could plug into the wall God we're gonna go time's a flat circle I found
some on eBay for like 300 bucks or something like that okay fine so cool
buying 300 E-Waste now yeah this is my life now that we've reached system
memory we're at a bit of a Crossroads we can either each go ahead with the most
optimal kit for our respective platforms so I've got a 6800 Mega transfer per
second kit from G skill while I've got a 6 000 Mega transfer per second kit but
with lower latency right I've got 30 CL 30 you're at cl34 I think all right or
because I'm going to be using
this memory that I made myself at Micron
we could both go ahead with this I think we should use this stuff it's really
cool and that's what you're going to be using anyway right like that's what you're going to put in your personal rig
so it doesn't matter what either of these expect for because that's what
you're going to use but in the spirit of telling the people which one's the
fastest in these weird games in one place Fair all right we go with this with the
Labs verified stuff okay hello buddy you in there yeah you're in
there ddr5 likes to go in the slot like that
no problem it's happy one concern we might actually
blow the breaker trying to run these two machines here on the table like this no
you might have to grab power from somewhere else the 4090s ploof it's only
like 500 watts on the d450
yeah yeah it takes like a thousand of low breaker
1500. computers David says 1500 we're
good now all we need is to close up the panel and through the miracle of movie
Magic everything is set up we're done our bioses are updated we've got the
latest drivers we've got XMP and Expo enabled for the best possible
performance with our RAM kits and we even downloaded some of the games that I
wanted to test thankfully uh CS go just finished you know I'm gonna take up
professional CS go so I need to make sure I get up
what you got something to say AMD boy I
I can't be a professional CS go player and what and what and what just saying
it's a lot of time you don't have time to go be a professional CS go player
nice recovery yeah nice recovery
yeah I was gonna say I'll say it
everywhere of course the most important game yeah stop downloading rocket League
the how big is your penis game okay it's off already sick oh wait you've she
started already yeah it starts that doesn't even matter because I'm gonna
have the highest number in temperatures maybe I'm already
getting up there 89.90c basically well I'm at 78. yeah come on bring it on
pulling 235 Watts wait are you serious
my CPU is not going to get as hot as yours uncool Intel literally uncool uh
38 784 37 392. yes I send a bench faster
now technically for a full 10 minute run AMD will do a
little better it'll get like 300 more points in a multi-threaded workload but
it's really close okay what do you want to start with well you want to play
Counter-Strike Survival Let's play Counter-Strike fine let's play Counter-Strike CS go server D does too
let's go okay all right there we go join
game problem solved two thousand uh it says there's a requires a password what
do you mean and my mouse is gone now what what are you talking about look can
you see my mouse and it says requires passwords it must
be because of AMD I can't even cancel you know what it's it's the connect
commands you have the server browser up in front of it
I call CT the worst part is my Mouse is gone now yeah well you should
have thought of that I know you were trying to Red to the team red more like
team dead and I can't talk to F4 because it's a steam game so they use the stupid
like alt F10 or whatever it is so I'm just gonna force close oh what FPS you
get 395 395 FPS at 4K 400. let's go
let's go GPU 240 260 Watts it's like
nothing surprisingly actually no my GPU oh my God my client needs to update
online it's a waste of time literally any other day we should do this well no
no this is not hard we just have to do it it's not but it's taking too much
time we heard it in a game you're in the game wait we're going to need to be able
to go into the same game later anyway so we might as well solve it
why is Chrome not on these okay the next time I walk up to a computer and only
edges on it I'm going to lose my all right how many kills you got uh 35.
what What's your FPS though uh oh yeah I'm getting like 360
390 it fluctuates a lot but you know we're hitting 100. no don't wait I got
this guy oh come on yeah yours is dipping down to like 338 oh 282
yeah you're a little ahead oh my God that was
awful please editor do not show what just happened there so I'm like 360
three 350. you know what I'm a little
ahead I think it fluctuates I'm a little ahead I don't know if oh someone I got a
shotgun so I'm not a lot of use at this range um it fluctuates a lot it's so close I
don't think it matters by the way you're dead wow that's how it gets me by
cheating isn't that great
the fact that we can be like into AMD oh
yeah and don't be wrong and idiots yeah they're both really good I love it yeah
I love it that's what real competition will do for you
La Fortune no he's a pirate so that
sounds awesome why don't you want to play his jeans no that's not the point
the point is he's an NPC yo why can't he plays a pirate though why can't I start
I don't know some additional content is enabled which not all players own
yes
the DLC for this game is really good
okay so uh you're gonna want to go wait what why you go why you go move
everything around like that hold it just okay just just chill for a second okay
did you man did you change the you changed the angle I just scrolled out
and then I started moving things Nicholas ploof how on Earth are we
supposed to look at the same thing now so where do I go oh my God why can't I
here what is w what did you just I just pressed W okay do your thing
wow this is a dead heat yeah 78 77
literally within one FPS yeah and it's
fluctuating like I I've seen mine stick at 79 but yours was up yeah 78. what's
up and again 113 120 honestly yeah it
might be AMD not by a ton I think it's
AMD you're definitely winning in 90 in in minimums as well to be clear both of
us are getting over 100 FPS average in an RTS game
which is fine everything's cranked to ultra yeah 4K
like this is overkill like look how busy these cities are when you turn up all
the details it's kind of wild actually how much is going on Halo Halo Halo okay
we happen to be looking at exactly the same things right now my God it's close
it's like 5 FPS difference but you're winning in both average and 99 percent
I would never be able to tell the difference between these I want to say
uh Intel is doing ever so slightly better it's a narrow win but it's a win
yeah very narrow slightly an Intel's favor
how on Earth are we gonna make a decision here that's your decision it's
your computer playing actual games like
experiencing it there is functionally no
difference no they both feel great um the only real difference is probably the price mine's cheaper yours is
cheaper the motherboards can be about the same
price but your your CPU is like fifty dollars cheaper
I mean that's not much man it's not much it's honestly not and the the RAM is
pretty similar you're gonna put the Micron in for Black Friday my CPU is on
promo for six hundred dollars mine's more than that 6.99 it's on sale
for by Two Dollars Dollar 25 and you can get a combo with a motherboard buy one
by default then for rental my CPU is cheaper okay fine yeah I mean it's and
it's significantly cheaper it's like 100 yeah it's over 50 bucks that's uh that's
enough and you get a second generation ddr5 memory controller what timeline is
this maybe it's time to go back I'm going back to Intel let's go wait wait
wait hold the phone AMD is coming in hot
with the price Cuts over the weekend they dropped the 7950x from 700 all the
way down to 575 making things even worse
for Intel at least in this race they're probably pretty happy with the sales the
13900k is now out of stock at that lower
price of 625 so even if you could get it
for that much AMD is still 50 bucks lower AMD then yeah seems like a
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