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when I unbox the Mac Mini M2 on ShortCircuit recently I was pretty stoked

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that you could get a Mac computer with that much performance for that little

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money well this is the Mac Mini M2 killer when configured with twice the

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amount of RAM and twice the amount of storage it's still currently cheaper

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with more performance and of course double the other things I said earlier

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it's called The Minis Forum um 773 and

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it's really small it might even be smaller than the Mac Mini even wow look

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at that oh it totally is it totally is smaller

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wow this thing is Tiny sweet okay cool

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cool let's get some bounce on there oh it's so small okay we'll put it over there there's some more box to unbox

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here got our usual propaganda a slow boot

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time may be caused by yeah yeah do not remove the CPU Cooler themselves that's

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not a bad idea foam

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power cable what is this oh it's a

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little stand that's cute

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yeah look at that that's so cute it's in

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there nice oh well maybe not

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maybe I am supposed to leave this in there I don't know whatever worry about

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that later we've got the power brick of course because of the size no power

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brick yeah that's something the Mac Mini has though hey look Mac Mini holy crap

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this thing's bigger than I remember okay

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there you go that's a lot smaller so if I put the power brick here

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still smaller and you know what the funny thing is inside this Mac Mini

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there's about this much empty space so yeah this you know the components in

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here and in here it's kind of the same size it's definitely thicker

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not by a huge amount but definitely a little bit got an HDMI cable that's

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always a nice inclusion vase amount cool

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what the is that oh af5 SATA cable

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this thing has a SATA drive slot too yeah there we go okay cool it's just

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like the world's cutest SATA cable he's so little

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should be very careful with this though I don't want to lose it these must be

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rubber feet there's like little little rubber doodads you

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rubber feet already oh maybe I'll read the manual it's probably in there okay

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improper disassembly may cause damage to the motherboard and CPU it could also

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reduce the liquid metal ceiling tightness it doesn't say for disassembly

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just improper so maybe if you properly disassemble it you still get your

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warranty but I did know it had liquid metal that's cool oh yeah okay oh we got

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disassembly instructions that's cool you have to remove these bottom rubber pads

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and they tell you to do that if you have to take it apart because you could buy

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this as a Bare Bones kit without any SSD or or RAM so you might actually have to

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take this thing apart right when you get it and the fact that they include the

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extra feet it's definitely a nice touch you've got the RAM slot and the SSD

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right there accessible we will take this apart later don't worry about that they

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kind of made it sound like in the documentation that there was going to be a slot you could slide an SSD into you

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do have to take the bottom cover off to do so but the fact that you can fit that

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in there as as well as being able to modify the storage as well as being able

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to modify the RAM this is a lot of flexibility in this thing machine based

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okay you are supposed to leave this little rubber thing on the base okay

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cool I think we've gotten everything out of that but we can't holy crap look at

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all that I O oh my God because it's got an external power brick there's going to

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be a power jack 19 volt it's got 2.5 gig Lan which is awesome to see on a device

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of this size and just devices nowadays in general we've got it looks like four

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or five gig USB type A ports two HDMI 2.0 ports so you're not gonna be able to

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do like 4K 120 not that the GPU and this could run games at that anyways 4K 60

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you could do high refresh rate 1440p or 1080p

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um there's a Kensington lock we've got lots of venting and then on the other

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side usb4 which means in theory you

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could use some Thunderbolt devices with this you might be able to get high

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refresh rate 4K out of Thunderbolt it would depend on if the GPU supports it

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I'm not 100 sure got a combo Jack for audio just a 3.5 mil standard we've got

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10 gig USB type-c not Thunderbolt or

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usb4 it looks like there's two reset

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buttonholes one of the this is a clear CMOS it's not labeled so I'm not going

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to stick anything in it but it is there it's a lot of i o for a

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machine this small don't get me wrong the Mac Mini also has a ton of i o

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especially if you spec the pro model which has four Thunderbolt ports but it

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doesn't have 2.5 gig Land by default you have to pay to upgrade to 10 gig it does

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have a headphone jack still that's good all right power cable power brick

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I like that they include the short HDMI cables with this thing because it's kind

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of designed to go on the back of your monitor and so you just you know you

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kind of like that but if you have to do anything more than that

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it's kind of inconvenient I guess most people have an HDMI cable and like most

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computers is like it's got two USB ports you have to run a USB hub like this you

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plug a keyboard and mouse in you still have two more type A ports and two type

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c ports on the front okay it does have a Wi-Fi card in it that's good on the

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specs page it just says m.2 2230 Wi-Fi

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card slot but it doesn't specify what type of Wi-Fi card or if it even comes

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with one clearly it does oh it's Wi-Fi see look at that would they ship this

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with one stick for the 16 gig config on one hand that gives you the ability to

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upgrade easily by just adding another stick but on the other hand you don't

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have dual Channel memory which kind of sucks for performance well anyways the

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CPU inside this thing is a ryzen 77 holy

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numbers that's a lot of sevens ryzen 7 7735 HS with Radeon graphics so it's got

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an rdna 2 GPU with 12 compute units it's

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a 8 core 16 thread so it's pretty powerful configurable TDP from 35 to 54

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Watts it's based on the tsmc six nanometer process it's got a 3.2

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gigahertz base clock and I think it clocks up to like 4.75 there's a lot of

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performance in this very very small package the configuration they sent us

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must be the 16 gig 512 version which you can get on pre-order right now for 560

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dollars The Bare Bones version with no storage and no RAM is 410 if you go to a

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32 gig one terabyte 6 60 and then the

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max spec 64 gig one terabyte is 790. in

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comparison to an M2 Mac If You're Gonna Go 16 gigs of RAM 512 like this one it's

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a thousand US Dollars that's without 10 gig networking and this thing is looking

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pretty compelling if you don't need macOS I'm curious to see what sort of uh

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TDP this thing runs at because it's a configurable TDP I suspect usually

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Mini's Forum likes to Max them out all right so I started installing a game

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Apex Legends because that seems like a game somebody could maybe play on this

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thing the CPU is of course going to ramp up to decompress those files as they

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come in from Steam right now we're downloading it like 70 megabytes a

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second over Wi-Fi which is pretty great 40 CPU usage it's a little noticeable

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like noise wise it's not something I would say is loud it sounds like a a

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reasonable gaming laptop which I guess it it's it's kind of like the CPU of a

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reasonable gaming laptop that doesn't have a GPU like it's not crazy loud like

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if it was sitting on my desk next to me like this I would probably find it a

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little bit annoying but if it was on the back of my monitor the noise goes away

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you can't hear it at all when it's behind the monitor I guess that's what

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they designed it for so Mission success for that if it was under your TV like as

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a home theater PC which I definitely could see this being used for I don't

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think you would have any problems at all but right next me

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it's definitely audible it looks like this thing is configured to use a Max of

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45 Watts this chip can go up to 54. I

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don't know if there's a BIOS option we'll have to check for that but uh I

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mean at in this 45 watt state it's reasonably not too loud it's only

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at you know 75 76 degrees on uh the hottest

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core it's very managed it's not thermal throttling oh yeah I forgot to mention

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the RAM is ddr5 which is great let's try a speed test on the SSD it is 300 gigs

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of 480 used maybe not the the best case

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scenario for testing the drive but it is a more realistic scenario to test a

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drive-in when it's you know got some usage then then when it's empty because

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it's going to be faster when it's empty but this is fast it's Gen 4 so I'm glad

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that they actually put a Gen 4 SSD in the Gen 4 slot that's great speed test

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is done we're getting around five gigabytes a second read three and a half

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gig right the random iops on this drive

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you know 400 500 000 read 700 000 right

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this is a very good drive that they put in here I'm not sure what it is we'll

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see when we take it apart but very good let's try pass mark

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I saw for a second the CPU package power went up to 57 Watts holy is not

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doing that anymore it's probably because it was doing a floating Point test and

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that can really push the CPU 64 Watts

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only I thought the max was 53 AMD what the

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hell almost 120 watt power brick I guess

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there's other things you could plug into this thing that would use power like if

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you Plugged In Like A you're charging your phone at 10 watts that's another 10

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watts of power you know you got some LEDs on there there's a fan in there that's going to draw some power but it

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definitely has Headroom 24 000 in pass Market the single threaded

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score is worse than an M2 you got 3 500 in pass mark on this thing and M2 is

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around 4 000 single threaded not a huge difference but definitely something you

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would notice however even though they're

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both eight cores the Mac Mini does not have hyper threading and it also has

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kind of like performance cores and efficiency cores whereas this is all the

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same cores we're getting 25 000 multi-threaded score a Mac Mini is

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around 15 000. so there's a lot more CPU

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horsepower in this thing especially if you're doing anything multi-threaded just for sure let's run cinebench almost

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thirteen thousand which puts it close to

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a first gen 16 core threadripper a 7700k

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is less than half the overall speed it's

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only a four core so that makes sense per core

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it's about as fast as the 7700k seriously impressive chip we're gonna

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game at 1080p 60. this monitor is only HDMI 1.4 and despite 1.4 technically

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being able to do 1080p 120 hertz it's not giving me that option

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so I think we're just stuck at gaming at 60 hertz there's probably a way to make

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it work but this is ShortCircuit not long circuit so I need to just we must

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just tread on I'm getting like 60. we're

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at absolute lowest settings I do have texture streaming on but this game still

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looks pretty good at low settings so if I stare at the ground 120 yeah let's go

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if there's anything on screen it's 60 to 70 which is totally totally playable

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um at 1080p but again this is like a

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it's like an APU it's not dedicated graphics I wasn't expecting this to

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to knock my performance socks off

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but it's it's enough to play a game like this this probably looks better than it

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does on Xbox okay

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don't at me Xbox people PS5 probably

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looks better oh this is in Russian holy okay anyways

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um low settings I do have FXAA on still I'm getting stuttering because the Ping

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is so high I'm connected to a community server but again between 100

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120 to 150 FPS like this is come here

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come here get knifed yeah I don't know I didn't buy

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he got me totally can play CS go on this thing is it pretty capable Esports

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gaming machine if you just had it at your TV can totally do that I'm sure

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it's enough even to to do some like basic video editing it just feels Snappy

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when we were using that Pico PC that Linus did an LTT on

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obviously way less powerful than this thing and a lot smaller but it was in

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you could say man you could you can use this for for web browsing you can use

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this for word processing trying to play a 4K YouTube video it did work but it

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was stuttery this system has so much

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power that you could use this for most

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pretty much pretty much anything anything basic and it doesn't feel slow

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it's got a Gen 4 SSD that makes it boot fast it makes programs launch fast

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it's got enough GPU power it's got lots of CPU power I mean 4K videos like

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there's nothing who cares it's it's kind of sad to have crab Rave with no

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I'm using no audio this would be a sick home theater PC especially because you

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can put a bigger drive in it it's got that 2.5 inch Drive slot which let's uh

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let's check out now so we have their instructions for doing this this should

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be pretty pretty easy oddly enough they included extra these feet in case you

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need to take it apart but they don't give you extra of these little ones they're both stick on so

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oh Jesus that thing just got destroyed all of the sticky came off I don't know

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you could position feet in a manner where you don't have to take them off to

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take it apart especially as a product that does sell as a Bare Bones kit it

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seems like nobody really thought about wow you know people are going to take

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this apart why don't we just make it so they can take it apart and not have to peel off one-time use sticky things

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there's also Clips on the bottom here anyone that takes this thing apart of

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their house is gonna have a small screwdriver they probably have something they could pry in there to unclip the

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little Clips it's just when it's such a easily serviceable thing with you you

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got your SSD you got your RAM there it seems like they could have just put a

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tiny bit more effort into making it just a little bit easier to open it's not

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hard but I mean you could break these clips pretty easily they're tiny and

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once it's broken and it never really goes back together properly which kind

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of sucks

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it has a heat sink on it or like a heat spreader it's very hot in my hands

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Kingston Gen 4 512 gig it's like an oem

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drive it's not it's probably not something you could super easily buy but it's probably

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pretty similar to their other ssds it doesn't look like it has a dram cache

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just has a bunch of nand on there and as suspected just a single stick of ramp

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would be cool to see dual Channel memory if you buy a 32 gig or 64 gig I suspect

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it will be dual Channel memory ddr5 8 gig dimms are kind of hard to come by so

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I kind of can see it it also does give you that easy upgrade ability to just

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add one more stick in rather than having to buy two new sticks if you were to go

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from 16 to 32 gigs but you are leaving a little bit of performance on the table

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for sure it's got like a metal frame and I think the whole metal frame will

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come out of the plastic I mean they probably have a special tool in the

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factory for this look it's nothing worse than the

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Purolator guy would do okay

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noise we did it Reddit wow look at that cooler

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holy it's got two giant heat pipes

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there's a set of fins over there and a

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set of fins over there where does the air come from this must suck air through

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a heat sink like the intake is a heat sink and then blow the air back out

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through another heatsink it's kind of cool it's not sexy like the inside of a

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Mac Mini but it is very very dense sweet

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little piece of kit overall I think it's not going to be a

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crazy gaming rig you know whatever but if you're just playing Esports titles or

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you want to run a Plex Media Server or something like that off of this home

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theater PC it's a serious amount of CPU horsepower

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serious amount of i o and uh it's

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reasonably upgradable I really like this thing

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so if you like this video maybe check out that Mac Mini unboxing that thing is

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also super cool kind of in a bit of a different way but it is still affordable

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compared to other Macs get subscribed bye
