WEBVTT 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:13.560 What? It's called the tank PC, right? Okay, sorry. This is the Ace Magic M18 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:16.600 Pro Plus, a mini PC that is boasting a 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:20.560 very powerful processor in this bad boy, 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:21.640 128 GB of RAM, and 00:00:20.560 --> 00:00:25.360 it kind of comes in a cute little package. Let's open it up. 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:29.520 Feels like a tank, you know? 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:36.000 Look how cute it is. It kind of looks like it's either a cyborg or that's its 00:00:34.080 --> 00:00:38.800 nose. That's actually how you can change the power profile of the device. We'll 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:42.280 get into that in a little bit. We got to see what else is in the box, though. 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:47.360 Oh. Okay, well, hopefully the device is built better 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:51.480 than the box is. Oh, here we go. All of our cables. Holy 00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:58.240 mother of god, that is a big power brick. Holy cow, that is a 300 W power 00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:01.880 brick. Thing's chunky. As for the rest of it, whoop, 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:06.600 we get our manual, we get our C13 power cord, and we have our HDMI cable. Now, 00:01:05.080 --> 00:01:09.920 some of you guys might be wondering who the heck is Ace Magic. Well, they've 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:14.600 actually been in the game for a little bit. And this isn't their first tank PC, 00:01:12.440 --> 00:01:18.560 or at least PC in the tank series that kind of uses a similar chassis to this. 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:23.360 And you can tell that when you open the manual for this device. If you look very 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:28.320 closely on the back IO there, let's play spot the difference, kids. Do you have 00:01:25.880 --> 00:01:33.280 three HDMI ports and three display ports on this one? No. They're reusing a 00:01:30.880 --> 00:01:37.720 similar designed chassis and then just reusing the old manual from the other 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:41.120 devices. There's actually some more errors in here. I don't want to go over 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:46.600 all of them because I don't care if the manual's wrong. If the device works, it's probably okay, 00:01:44.440 --> 00:01:50.160 right? Let's finish doing an exterior tour before I tell you all of the specs 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:54.800 in this bad boy. On the back here, we have our 3.5 mm combo audio jack, our DC 00:01:52.880 --> 00:02:00.680 power, which again, that big power brick goes into. You have four USB 3.2 Gen 1 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:06.320 ports, so those are 5 GB a second ports. We have two HDMI 2.1s, two 2.5 gig LANs, 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:11.120 which are covered up here. I'll explain why in a second, and a DP 2.0 port, and 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.959 then a Kensington lock if you really don't want people stealing this thing. 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:18.800 On this side, you got apparently a contact support number. I kind of want to call that. 00:02:16.920 --> 00:02:23.880 And then we've got tips for faster setup, avoid Wi-Fi or LAN, connecting 00:02:21.600 --> 00:02:26.760 might trigger long updates. Our Labs team was very confused when they saw 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:31.360 that sticker, and that's actually what the stickers over the Ethernet ports are 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:34.640 as well. This shipped with a pretty old version of Windows, and the reason it 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.600 tells you that is because obviously when you first plug a Windows computer in and 00:02:36.440 --> 00:02:42.959 you're going through the initial out of box setup, it will download those updates in the background, and it can 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:46.640 take a very long time. I think they're kind of just like, ah, skip it. Just get 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:50.640 into Windows first before you update, which does actually help speed up the 00:02:48.760 --> 00:02:53.240 initial setup phase. On the front here, I kind of talked about it before, you 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:57.880 have this knob that can let you toggle between the three power modes on this 00:02:54.959 --> 00:03:02.480 thing. We have two USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports, so these are 10 GB a second. We have one 00:02:59.880 --> 00:03:06.120 USB 4 port, which can do 8K displays, that means, or 40 GB a second as well. A 00:03:04.600 --> 00:03:09.440 full-size SD card reader, and again, another combo audio jack. And on this 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:12.920 side, they've just got a bunch of stickers. Top, it's just a bunch of 00:03:11.440 --> 00:03:16.400 ventilation. It's a good thing it's got a lot of ventilation because in this is 00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:20.680 actually the same chip in the Framework and that X Plus Rival device I looked at 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:26.280 earlier. So, it was the Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 chip. That's 16 cores, 32 00:03:23.480 --> 00:03:32.400 threads, boost up to 5.1 GHz. And this configuration is the only configuration 00:03:28.600 --> 00:03:34.400 you can buy, but it has 128 GB of RAM at 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:38.120 8,000 megatransfers per second. Now, if you're familiar with the AI Max Plus 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:41.760 lineup from AMD, you know that that RAM is not upgradeable, which is another 00:03:39.959 --> 00:03:45.440 lying point in the manual, because I believe it's on this side. 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:51.640 They say that there's a RAM upgrade in there. As you can see, there's not. But 00:03:48.320 --> 00:03:53.320 what there is, there is another M.2 in 00:03:51.640 --> 00:03:58.440 there. So, you can add expandable storage or swap yours out, but there's 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:58.440 not just one. 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:05.080 OH, LOOK AT THAT. THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S included and a third one. And then at 00:04:03.480 --> 00:04:08.240 the very back there, there's our Wi-Fi card. So, if you needed to swap that one 00:04:06.640 --> 00:04:11.160 out for whatever reason in the future, oh, it's a it's a seven. So, yeah, you 00:04:09.959 --> 00:04:15.480 probably won't even need to swap this one out not for a while at least, but 00:04:13.320 --> 00:04:18.480 quick access to the SSD, man. And actually, it's going to be kind of hard 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:23.160 for you guys to see, but this kind of thick black plastic piece right here, 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:29.960 that is the 80 mm fan. That's the intake. It's a pretty thick boy. I don't 00:04:27.200 --> 00:04:35.160 know how it's going to sound. 80 mm fans tend to have kind of a more annoying 00:04:33.080 --> 00:04:38.080 sound or something like that. I really hope it doesn't sound like that when we 00:04:36.640 --> 00:04:42.400 power this on, but we're just going to have to find out. 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:46.440 Other than that, that's basically the entire device. It's pretty light, but 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:51.000 again, I think most of the weight is in the power brick, so that makes 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.840 sense. 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OH MY GOD, UPDATES Windows. 00:05:26.640 --> 00:05:32.480 It's because we connected IT TO LAN. 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:35.160 ACTUALLY, WE'RE NOT CONNECTED TO LAN. ACTUALLY, HOW IS IT DOING updates then? 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.280 It's probably on Wi-Fi, maybe. By default, it's in the silent mode and they also have a balanced and 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:44.040 performance mode. The silent mode makes this draw 70 W, the balanced is 100 W, 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:47.920 and the performance is 140 with a big asterisk there cuz I'm going to go over 00:05:45.760 --> 00:05:51.680 that. Labs found some weird numbers, but let's turn it to balance. I was kind of 00:05:49.840 --> 00:05:54.400 expecting something that like happen, okay? 00:05:52.840 --> 00:05:58.760 Performance. Ooh, it's red now. Okay. 00:05:56.960 --> 00:06:03.720 It does change the color, but do you notice what it also does? It resets the 00:06:01.080 --> 00:06:06.880 RGB. So, when I turn it, you can see that it likes the RGB does like a little 00:06:05.400 --> 00:06:10.760 skip. It's like restarting whatever its its 00:06:09.080 --> 00:06:15.600 cycle is. Uh that sucks. You can't customize the RGB, 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:20.080 man. This is like the most basic basic of controllers in here. But, we might as 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:23.560 well game, right? Let's do some gaming. Unironically, I think this thing looks 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:26.760 pretty cool. Like, I think if you rocked up to a LAN with this thing, they'd be 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:30.840 like, "Whoa, what is that? That's kind of cool." Plus, it's pretty portable. 00:06:29.200 --> 00:06:36.200 I don't know. Do I have anything signed in? I have no games. Oh, I have 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.200 Cyberpunk. Let's go. 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:42.840 That was the Terminator. That wasn't Cyberpunk. 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:47.400 Ooh, it's starting to ramp up, baby. And 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:52.720 whoo, IT'S TAKING OFF. I'M IN CYBERPUNK 1440p 00:06:49.880 --> 00:06:56.880 with everything basically on high with some things being ultra. No ray tracing, 00:06:55.080 --> 00:07:00.440 no frame gen. Let's see what kind of gaming experience we can get out of 00:06:58.080 --> 00:07:06.080 this. Oh, boy. High and ultra might be a little much for this. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.840 We're at like 40 in the 1% lows, 50 00:07:06.080 --> 00:07:12.480 average. Okay. I am going to dial these settings just a tiny bit. We're going to 00:07:10.760 --> 00:07:17.400 do settings. I'm going to do medium settings. No resolution scaling. We'll 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:22.320 keep everything on medium to high. No ray tracing again. Still 1440p. Oh, 00:07:20.400 --> 00:07:28.280 that's much better. Yeah, our average is about 60 to 70 now. 1% lows are at about 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:32.880 50. I think if you did a little bit more tweaking on a per game basis, you could 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:38.160 probably get this to be a pretty stable 1% lows in the 60s. Maybe playing at 00:07:34.919 --> 00:07:39.440 1080p instead of 1440p, but this is a 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:45.080 pretty demanding game. We all know Cyberpunk's pretty demanding. I'm gaming on a tank. I will say I have not been 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:49.880 gaming that long. In fact, I'm just in the title screen right now. That fan is 00:07:46.960 --> 00:07:53.560 not quiet. It's not quite as whiny as I thought it might have been with an 80 mm 00:07:51.280 --> 00:07:57.240 fan, but I can tell it's moving a lot of air. 00:07:54.920 --> 00:08:02.040 It's It's It's going. Just for audio sake, I am going to I think close the 00:07:59.440 --> 00:08:04.960 game while I read off the Labs results. For our Labs testing results, we 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:09.760 compared it against the Framework Desktop since those are both using the same chip and they both have similar 00:08:07.840 --> 00:08:14.880 amount of RAM. And in this case, they configured it to have 32 GB of RAM on 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:18.080 the GPU. If you remember with the 395 chip, just like the Framework, you can 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:22.320 actually go into the BIOS and configure how much RAM is being allocated to the 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:27.640 onboard GPU. So, in our test, we tested 32 GB on both of them, so that way it's 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:31.919 kind of comparable. And as for the tank, it performed slightly worse across our 00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:36.520 tests. In the games, for example, it was a couple FPS lower both in the average 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:40.479 and the 1% lows. In our Puget Bench tests, basically the same thing, little 00:08:38.800 --> 00:08:44.839 bit worse than the Framework Desktop. Where this thing does win though, is in 00:08:42.760 --> 00:08:49.200 temperature. Meaning it gets hotter. Higher number means better, right? 00:08:46.760 --> 00:08:53.040 Sorry, that was terrible. It also is a hotter device than the Framework because 00:08:50.880 --> 00:08:57.440 again, that Framework has a 120 mm fan. It's a much bigger fan than this one. 00:08:55.080 --> 00:09:02.120 Where this device did win though, was it did actually have a higher max clock 00:08:59.839 --> 00:09:07.839 speed. The problem was Labs noticed it would only boost to that for 1 to 2 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:09.560 seconds before it would clock down much 00:09:07.839 --> 00:09:13.240 lower. In terms of the wattage, that's where it would peak at the 140 W like I 00:09:11.520 --> 00:09:18.800 mentioned earlier, but then it would clock down and just hold 120 W basically 00:09:16.839 --> 00:09:22.320 flat across the board. If you take one of these graphs for example, where you 00:09:20.640 --> 00:09:27.320 can see that the Framework is able to boost higher for longer, depending on 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:31.600 the length of the task, the Framework Desktop is probably going to be your 00:09:28.839 --> 00:09:36.640 best bet. But if it's a very, very long task, they both slowly start to converge 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:40.360 towards each other and almost end up in the same performance realm. But if you 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:43.880 were looking for relatively shorter, higher clock speeds, the Framework 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:47.000 Desktop wins out over this thing. So, if it performs worse than the Framework 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:51.400 Desktop, it should be cheaper, right? Well, it is on sale. At the time of 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:54.960 recording this video right now, it's $2,600 00:09:52.920 --> 00:09:59.960 >> US dollars. That is a ton of money for a small form factor PC. The MSRP though 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:02.720 for this thing is $3,300, which 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:06.840 that's pretty brutal. I would never buy this at MSRP. I think it might be worth 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:10.640 investigating for yourself if you can get it at that sale price. A couple 00:10:08.680 --> 00:10:15.400 things to keep in mind though. AceMagic not necessarily known for their amazing, 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:19.200 fantastic, top-of-the-line support or long-term support for their devices, 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:22.400 whereas Framework so far has kind of proven that they're at least around for 00:10:20.680 --> 00:10:26.360 a couple of years at this point. So, maybe they're going to help you a bit 00:10:23.880 --> 00:10:29.880 more. I guess it really depends on your use case. If you're someone that's just 00:10:27.880 --> 00:10:34.080 wanting to get that 395 chip at the maxed-out spec, yeah, hey, this might be 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:37.760 for you because it is cheap for that chip. But if you're 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:41.560 someone who wants like a small form factor gaming PC, it might be worth 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:45.880 spending the extra couple hundred bucks to buy it from a reputable brand, like 00:10:44.280 --> 00:10:48.920 Framework for example. Framework disclosure, I forgot to do that at some 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:52.920 point or someone else or just build your own 00:10:50.560 --> 00:10:55.880 small form factor PC. RAM is expensive though, so 00:10:54.520 --> 00:11:01.160 it's up to you. If you guys enjoyed this video, go check out the other two videos that I've done with this exact same 00:10:59.280 --> 00:11:04.960 chip. One was that Framework Desktop, another was called the X Plus Rival. 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:10.440 That one kind of had more of a game-y aesthetic. The Framework was more of a 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.440 gentleman's computer.