1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:13,560 What? It's called the tank PC, right? Okay, sorry. This is the Ace Magic M18 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:16,600 Pro Plus, a mini PC that is boasting a 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:20,560 very powerful processor in this bad boy, 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,640 128 GB of RAM, and 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,360 it kind of comes in a cute little package. Let's open it up. 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Feels like a tank, you know? 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:36,000 Look how cute it is. It kind of looks like it's either a cyborg or that's its 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,800 nose. That's actually how you can change the power profile of the device. We'll 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,280 get into that in a little bit. We got to see what else is in the box, though. 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,360 Oh. Okay, well, hopefully the device is built better 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:51,480 than the box is. Oh, here we go. All of our cables. Holy 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:58,240 mother of god, that is a big power brick. Holy cow, that is a 300 W power 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,880 brick. Thing's chunky. As for the rest of it, whoop, 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:06,600 we get our manual, we get our C13 power cord, and we have our HDMI cable. Now, 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,920 some of you guys might be wondering who the heck is Ace Magic. Well, they've 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:14,600 actually been in the game for a little bit. And this isn't their first tank PC, 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:18,560 or at least PC in the tank series that kind of uses a similar chassis to this. 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:23,360 And you can tell that when you open the manual for this device. If you look very 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:28,320 closely on the back IO there, let's play spot the difference, kids. Do you have 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:33,280 three HDMI ports and three display ports on this one? No. They're reusing a 21 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:37,720 similar designed chassis and then just reusing the old manual from the other 22 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,120 devices. There's actually some more errors in here. I don't want to go over 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:46,600 all of them because I don't care if the manual's wrong. If the device works, it's probably okay, 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,160 right? Let's finish doing an exterior tour before I tell you all of the specs 25 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,800 in this bad boy. On the back here, we have our 3.5 mm combo audio jack, our DC 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:00,680 power, which again, that big power brick goes into. You have four USB 3.2 Gen 1 27 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:06,320 ports, so those are 5 GB a second ports. We have two HDMI 2.1s, two 2.5 gig LANs, 28 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:11,120 which are covered up here. I'll explain why in a second, and a DP 2.0 port, and 29 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:13,959 then a Kensington lock if you really don't want people stealing this thing. 30 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:18,800 On this side, you got apparently a contact support number. I kind of want to call that. 31 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:23,880 And then we've got tips for faster setup, avoid Wi-Fi or LAN, connecting 32 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,760 might trigger long updates. Our Labs team was very confused when they saw 33 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:31,360 that sticker, and that's actually what the stickers over the Ethernet ports are 34 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:34,640 as well. This shipped with a pretty old version of Windows, and the reason it 35 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,600 tells you that is because obviously when you first plug a Windows computer in and 36 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:42,959 you're going through the initial out of box setup, it will download those updates in the background, and it can 37 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,640 take a very long time. I think they're kind of just like, ah, skip it. Just get 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:50,640 into Windows first before you update, which does actually help speed up the 39 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,240 initial setup phase. On the front here, I kind of talked about it before, you 40 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,880 have this knob that can let you toggle between the three power modes on this 41 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:02,480 thing. We have two USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports, so these are 10 GB a second. We have one 42 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:06,120 USB 4 port, which can do 8K displays, that means, or 40 GB a second as well. A 43 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,440 full-size SD card reader, and again, another combo audio jack. And on this 44 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,920 side, they've just got a bunch of stickers. Top, it's just a bunch of 45 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,400 ventilation. It's a good thing it's got a lot of ventilation because in this is 46 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,680 actually the same chip in the Framework and that X Plus Rival device I looked at 47 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:26,280 earlier. So, it was the Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 chip. That's 16 cores, 32 48 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:32,400 threads, boost up to 5.1 GHz. And this configuration is the only configuration 49 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,400 you can buy, but it has 128 GB of RAM at 50 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,120 8,000 megatransfers per second. Now, if you're familiar with the AI Max Plus 51 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,760 lineup from AMD, you know that that RAM is not upgradeable, which is another 52 00:03:39,959 --> 00:03:45,440 lying point in the manual, because I believe it's on this side. 53 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:51,640 They say that there's a RAM upgrade in there. As you can see, there's not. But 54 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,320 what there is, there is another M.2 in 55 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:58,440 there. So, you can add expandable storage or swap yours out, but there's 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,440 not just one. 57 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:05,080 OH, LOOK AT THAT. THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S included and a third one. And then at 58 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,240 the very back there, there's our Wi-Fi card. So, if you needed to swap that one 59 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,160 out for whatever reason in the future, oh, it's a it's a seven. So, yeah, you 60 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:15,480 probably won't even need to swap this one out not for a while at least, but 61 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,480 quick access to the SSD, man. And actually, it's going to be kind of hard 62 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:23,160 for you guys to see, but this kind of thick black plastic piece right here, 63 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:29,960 that is the 80 mm fan. That's the intake. It's a pretty thick boy. I don't 64 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:35,160 know how it's going to sound. 80 mm fans tend to have kind of a more annoying 65 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,080 sound or something like that. I really hope it doesn't sound like that when we 66 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,400 power this on, but we're just going to have to find out. 67 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Other than that, that's basically the entire device. It's pretty light, but 68 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:51,000 again, I think most of the weight is in the power brick, so that makes 69 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,840 sense. Should we fire this thing up and just get gaming on it? I think we 70 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:59,200 should, but you guys are going to have to listen to this message from our sponsor first. Join over 95 million 71 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:03,200 other players in the action-packed and free-to-play vehicular combat game War 72 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,440 Thunder. There are thousands of war machines for you to take command of from 73 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,800 tanks and armored cars to ships and even fighter jets. The game is super 74 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,760 immersive. Battles aren't determined by a simple health bar. Instead, it comes 75 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:18,000 down to blowing up the enemy vehicles piece by piece. 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I was kind of 85 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,400 expecting something that like happen, okay? 86 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:58,760 Performance. Ooh, it's red now. Okay. 87 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:03,720 It does change the color, but do you notice what it also does? It resets the 88 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,880 RGB. So, when I turn it, you can see that it likes the RGB does like a little 89 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,760 skip. It's like restarting whatever its its 90 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:15,600 cycle is. Uh that sucks. You can't customize the RGB, 91 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:20,080 man. This is like the most basic basic of controllers in here. But, we might as 92 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,560 well game, right? Let's do some gaming. Unironically, I think this thing looks 93 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,760 pretty cool. Like, I think if you rocked up to a LAN with this thing, they'd be 94 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:30,840 like, "Whoa, what is that? That's kind of cool." Plus, it's pretty portable. 95 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:36,200 I don't know. Do I have anything signed in? I have no games. Oh, I have 96 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Cyberpunk. Let's go. 97 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:42,840 That was the Terminator. That wasn't Cyberpunk. 98 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:47,400 Ooh, it's starting to ramp up, baby. And 99 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:52,720 whoo, IT'S TAKING OFF. I'M IN CYBERPUNK 1440p 100 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:56,880 with everything basically on high with some things being ultra. No ray tracing, 101 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,440 no frame gen. Let's see what kind of gaming experience we can get out of 102 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:06,080 this. Oh, boy. High and ultra might be a little much for this. 103 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,840 We're at like 40 in the 1% lows, 50 104 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:12,480 average. Okay. I am going to dial these settings just a tiny bit. We're going to 105 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:17,400 do settings. I'm going to do medium settings. No resolution scaling. We'll 106 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:22,320 keep everything on medium to high. No ray tracing again. Still 1440p. Oh, 107 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:28,280 that's much better. Yeah, our average is about 60 to 70 now. 1% lows are at about 108 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:32,880 50. I think if you did a little bit more tweaking on a per game basis, you could 109 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:38,160 probably get this to be a pretty stable 1% lows in the 60s. Maybe playing at 110 00:07:34,919 --> 00:07:39,440 1080p instead of 1440p, but this is a 111 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:45,080 pretty demanding game. We all know Cyberpunk's pretty demanding. I'm gaming on a tank. I will say I have not been 112 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,880 gaming that long. In fact, I'm just in the title screen right now. That fan is 113 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:53,560 not quiet. It's not quite as whiny as I thought it might have been with an 80 mm 114 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,240 fan, but I can tell it's moving a lot of air. 115 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:02,040 It's It's It's going. Just for audio sake, I am going to I think close the 116 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,960 game while I read off the Labs results. For our Labs testing results, we 117 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,760 compared it against the Framework Desktop since those are both using the same chip and they both have similar 118 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:14,880 amount of RAM. And in this case, they configured it to have 32 GB of RAM on 119 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,080 the GPU. If you remember with the 395 chip, just like the Framework, you can 120 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,320 actually go into the BIOS and configure how much RAM is being allocated to the 121 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:27,640 onboard GPU. So, in our test, we tested 32 GB on both of them, so that way it's 122 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:31,919 kind of comparable. And as for the tank, it performed slightly worse across our 123 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:36,520 tests. In the games, for example, it was a couple FPS lower both in the average 124 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:40,479 and the 1% lows. In our Puget Bench tests, basically the same thing, little 125 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,839 bit worse than the Framework Desktop. Where this thing does win though, is in 126 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:49,200 temperature. Meaning it gets hotter. Higher number means better, right? 127 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Sorry, that was terrible. It also is a hotter device than the Framework because 128 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,440 again, that Framework has a 120 mm fan. It's a much bigger fan than this one. 129 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Where this device did win though, was it did actually have a higher max clock 130 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:07,839 speed. The problem was Labs noticed it would only boost to that for 1 to 2 131 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,560 seconds before it would clock down much 132 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:13,240 lower. In terms of the wattage, that's where it would peak at the 140 W like I 133 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:18,800 mentioned earlier, but then it would clock down and just hold 120 W basically 134 00:09:16,839 --> 00:09:22,320 flat across the board. If you take one of these graphs for example, where you 135 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:27,320 can see that the Framework is able to boost higher for longer, depending on 136 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:31,600 the length of the task, the Framework Desktop is probably going to be your 137 00:09:28,839 --> 00:09:36,640 best bet. But if it's a very, very long task, they both slowly start to converge 138 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,360 towards each other and almost end up in the same performance realm. But if you 139 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,880 were looking for relatively shorter, higher clock speeds, the Framework 140 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Desktop wins out over this thing. So, if it performs worse than the Framework 141 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Desktop, it should be cheaper, right? Well, it is on sale. At the time of 142 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,960 recording this video right now, it's $2,600 143 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:59,960 >> US dollars. That is a ton of money for a small form factor PC. The MSRP though 144 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,720 for this thing is $3,300, which 145 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,840 that's pretty brutal. I would never buy this at MSRP. I think it might be worth 146 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,640 investigating for yourself if you can get it at that sale price. A couple 147 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:15,400 things to keep in mind though. AceMagic not necessarily known for their amazing, 148 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,200 fantastic, top-of-the-line support or long-term support for their devices, 149 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,400 whereas Framework so far has kind of proven that they're at least around for 150 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:26,360 a couple of years at this point. So, maybe they're going to help you a bit 151 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,880 more. I guess it really depends on your use case. If you're someone that's just 152 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:34,080 wanting to get that 395 chip at the maxed-out spec, yeah, hey, this might be 153 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,760 for you because it is cheap for that chip. But if you're 154 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,560 someone who wants like a small form factor gaming PC, it might be worth 155 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,880 spending the extra couple hundred bucks to buy it from a reputable brand, like 156 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Framework for example. Framework disclosure, I forgot to do that at some 157 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,920 point or someone else or just build your own 158 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:55,880 small form factor PC. RAM is expensive though, so 159 00:10:54,520 --> 00:11:01,160 it's up to you. If you guys enjoyed this video, go check out the other two videos that I've done with this exact same 160 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,960 chip. One was that Framework Desktop, another was called the X Plus Rival. 161 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:10,440 That one kind of had more of a game-y aesthetic. The Framework was more of a 162 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,440 gentleman's computer.