cuz like all the way over I still don't really fit. That's what she said. Yeah,
it's wed show time and we managed to get
a that's what she said before the proper intro. Before the intro right at the
start we are fast like that. You're just
like you're you're thinking you're thinking oh it's about to and it's over.
Yep. Yep. Just Okay, we've got a great
show for you guys today. World record speed. Um, first we get to admit that we
were not only slightly wrong, but also
slightly ignorant and a little bit dumb.
So, that'll be coming later. Uh, which I wasn't able to research at all
because I can't look at this. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's that's fine. Don't
worry. I got this. Thanks. Um, HTC's
keyboard is showing ads to users of
their phones. Apparently, it might not really be their fault, but it's because
of something or whatever. Whatever. We'll get into it later. So, that's brilliant. This just in an ASUS Thread
Ripper motherboard. There are now unboxing pictures. It looks awesome.
I've held it. Oh, it feels awesome. I'm sure it does. And the ROG Crosshair 6
Extreme has been
announced. So yeah, I guess I guess a drum. Roll a drum.
Dang it. I don't have Twitch open yet, nerd. Neither do I. Damn
it. I believe that is pretty much the definition of wrecked, son.
I got it.
Hold on. I'm sure we had sponsors, but I have to post that the WAN Show is live
on social media. That's what I usually do. Well, thank you to Savage Turkey.
Fresh bugs.
Macelog tech.
Jingles are a lost art. We should uh we should make another album.
Oh, okay. I've wanted to do a non-Christ
themed album for a while. I know, but I
didn't we learn our lesson last time. No, it did really well. Okay. Well,
there are different ways to learn your lesson. Okay. So, so for those of you
not familiar it must Wow, it was over a
year and a half ago. Long time ago. Over a year and a half ago, we had the
hairbrained idea. I don't remember whose
idea it was. Was it you? Was it me? It
was you. Was it me? I'm not taking full credit for it. I'll take partial credit
for it. Other people were complicit in this. Okay. I was more than complicit. I
was Yeah. So, this was a thing that we as a team I don't think it was my idea,
but I definitely championed. Yeah. Okay. So, we created a Christmas album. We
took a bunch of classic Christmas songs and we rewrote the lyrics uh with
technology as as sort of a theme. And it
um it was awful. Yeah. Like the lyrics
were actually not as bad as you might expect because I took what some other
people wrote and made very few alterations because they were quite good
or completely redid because they were done by Colton. Yeah. Yeah. John and I
sat down like together outside of work hours and wrote a few songs that were
like pretty solid. Yeah. I believe Nick's Nick lights were pretty good.
Nick did a few. Yeah, Colton's were terrible. They were really bad. I was
like, "Do you even English, bro?" They
were a little rough. So, I redid those ones. But anyway, and then without any
rehearsals, Nacho Mist, which like
that's a reputable name right there, says that it was actually fantastic.
Okay, thanks, Nacho Mist. And we actually sold quite a few of them. So, I
was I was getting to that part. Um, are you checking? Which I'm going to check.
You're checking, aren't you? Which might mean that we're going to sell none of them next time cuz people have now seen
what we can do. Yeah. Um, so, so anyway,
so we we did I think it was like nine or 10 songs, something like that. So we
without any rehearsals and without any
screening, so no matter who they were, if they were on staff at Linus Media
Group, they had to sing for the Christmas album. And um, we sold, how
many of them did we sell? sold 924 for a grand total of $2,772.
So, we not even close to made back the
time we spent on it. Nope. There's also ad revenue,
which I can look up for you right now. Oh, I don't know if we can say it. Sure.
Yeah, let's let's I don't think anyone's going to care. Okay. You know what? We
may have actually turned off um
monetization. We may have turned off monetization cuz we wanted as many
people as possible to watch the uh the
video advertising it. So, we released it as something that almost looked like a
joke. No, we did. We monetized it. So, we released this video that almost
looked like a joke and um and then we're
way too serious about it and then you actually could buy it.
Um, like th this is this is real. This
is not a joke at all.
Um, look at Ed back
there. Nick's like into it.
My favorite thing this whole time is looking at Colton's face cuz this if if
you see like the behind the scenes, Lannis has just been grilling Colton the whole time. So Colton's just sitting on
the couch. I don't even think he's singing like half the time. Just completely dead pan. It's great. Another
interesting thing, the reason why I know that this sold fairly well is that I get
emailed every single time someone buys
it. Every time. So like every few
months. It's not that common anymore because it's been so long, right? But
someone will see this in the download section and just be like, "What and just
buy it for fun?" So, we brought in another $400 heck from the 275,000 views
on that video. So, that's over three grand, man. So, that makes you want to
do another one. Well, that was back in in 2015. We probably get more views now.
Okay. So, tell you what, we've matured as a professional. Uh Oh, shut up. Uh
I'm going I'm going full on bean spiller
here. We are not doing another album
like in that form. A you don't want to
you don't want to spill it? I'm not going to tell you. No, no, I want to make another album. No, no, we're not
doing another album. All right. But there will be sometime in I'm not
going to promise a time frame other than like in the next few months because this is a fairly large project and we want to
do it right. There will be a tech themed
like fairly high production
value music video coming from Linus Tech
Tips in that time frame which if it does well enough might end up being able to
go into an album if we do enough of them. Okay. Have you heard the song? No,
there's a song. It's recorded already. The the the the actual melody. Okay. No,
I haven't heard this already. I haven't heard it with some placeholder lyrics.
Very placeholder, but like it's pretty
catchy. I haven't heard it. It's pretty catchy. Is this You bet. Okay. Awesome.
Yeah. So, it's This is something that um
that that we've been talking about actually for probably about 3 years.
Well, before the Christmas holiday, well before we were in this office. Yeah. So,
uh that's that's definitely a thing that's happening.
Um other things that are happening. So, the 16K gaming
setup, I hope I'm not really spoiling anything, but I just came back from
filming the final video for that. So, uh
that's that's coming very soon as well. That's awesome. And no, it is not a baby
parody. As much as I would love to do that a baby parody baby baby.
Yeah. No, it's not that. All
right. So, I don't know what just
happened there. I don't know. Wow. I don't know what this I don't know what
this is, but actually where this conversation took place was on my
personal Twitter. So, the only way I'm going to be able to u the only way up.
So, let's kick the show off with me kind
of admitting that I may have made a bit
of a mistake. So, first of all, there was the news from Tech PowerUp from last
week. Intel says AMD Epic processors
glued together in official slide deck. And to be clear, that was far from the
only thing wrong with this slide deck. We we went kind of ham on Intel slide
deck being unprofessional, childish, uh undignified, you pretty much name it.
And I'm not backpedaling on the bulk of
that, but um there's also a post on the forum
here. This is this was posted by uh Johnny
Johnny Corporal Tech and AMD basically
produced a couple slides going like actually okay you know we have some
partners their partner list isn't as long but at least it doesn't have any
duplicate entries on it so we got to give them credit for the partners that they do list are pretty big deal.
Yep. But there was something that I did
kind of screw up because I was not familiar with this particular technical
term. So Dr. Cutras from Anontech made a
point. I can't believe he watches the WAN Show. I don't know why he would. Um
I like that. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Ian. Hi. Uh made a point of messaging me
via DM. FYI, he's so polite. Was it
okay? He's so British. Is it accurate though? Uh, if Ian says so, I'm kind of
going for Did he say it's accurate? So, here's what he said. It being a term is
different than it being accurate. Here's what he said word for word. FYI, glued
together is a technical term. Okay.
Infinity fabric is a glue logic fabric,
okay, and a common semiconductor
microarchchitecture term. and he linked me to a Wikipedia article because while
he is a very polite person, he's British, that doesn't mean he can't get
a little snarky. He's British. You'll
see it in a lot of semiconductor research papers to deal with data
movement around silicon or between chips. Examples include PCI Express,
Envy Link, etc. In case you were unaware, I feel like it and thanks for
the shout out. I feel like it was being
used. I feel like the way they were using it in the context of all the other
slides was still pretty be mode. Yeah.
Um, and it can it can be a technical term and that actually makes sense that
it's a I'm not surprised at all. I thought it was incorrect because I
thought their form of link I wasn't applicable to that. Yeah. But I think
it's still BS the way. But there you go. So, I'm I'm backpedaling on the outrage
over saying that Epic is glued together.
You heard it here first, but I'm not backpedaling over the rest of the
nonsense that was in that slide deck. I'm I'm I'm I'm still a little bit for
the outrage on that comment. It was It was structured in a very angry
aggressive way. I don't know. All right,
speaking of outrage, HTC's keyboard
Yeah. is showing ads to its users. I
mean, oh, okay. Okay, here we go. HTC is
working on a fix is the update. I love it when they use the term fix to
describe something that wasn't broken. Okay, to be fair, for this situation,
TouchPal is the keyboard and HTC uses
TouchPal keyboard. So, what HTC thinks
is or what people think is going on here is that
TouchPal ran an update that started serving ads through the keyboard and HTC
was like, "Whoa, what the heck?" and is now trying to stop this from happening.
So, I don't think it was like HTC actively doing anything. I just think it
was HTC losing control of something that they use. Here's what I don't
understand. Why are they using TouchPal keyboard? I don't know.
I don't know. I can't That part has continued to be confusing for me.
SwiftKey is free. Yeah. Well, Swift Key might be free in
the context of an end user downloading it, but Swift Key might not be free to
uh a skin maker wanting to, right? But
but Google keyboard Google keyboard is fine and it's free. Like it's not my
favorite. I don't use it. I don't like it. But I don't not like it any more
than any other piece of trash keyboard.
Samsung's is Touchpal. Terrible. I've never used Touch Pal. I'm not a fan of
Touchp. Okay. Yeah. Um they're they're they're all pretty garbo. Um and the
only reason I like Swift Key is because there's a few little customizations that
I make to it that make it very very usable. So I shorten the long press so
you can get it all your special characters without switching keyboards. Not all, but the vast majority of them.
So, it makes it faster to use. I don't I don't flow type. So, some people tell me
that Swift Keys flow is not very good. Don't care. Don't flow. I don't do that
either. Um, and that's that's pretty much it
actually. That's pretty much all Yeah, I'm at the point where using other keyboards feels weird. But the
prediction of Swift Key is fantastic.
Like, I can basically look away and kind of like mash at my keyboard and it's
going to be like, "Did you mean?" I'm like, "Yeah, pretty much." If if I'm on
a computer that I don't often use, I like can't type anymore. I know because
I know we've all turned like helpless. I I like definitely run typos pretty much
all the time and Swift Key is just like I'll do all this, everything will be
fine. Another creepy thing in that same vein right now is Google's auto
predictions for email. Have you seen that? I've seen it on um I've seen it on
my uh on my mobile app. I only get it on my phone. And then on here, send me an
email. It's going to take a second. Yeah. Well,
no. Maybe I can. Hold on. Maybe I got one here. You probably Oh, no. Here. Yeah. Yeah, I got one. So, on here, I
get all kinds of stuff. So, I can click reply. So, I can use voice. Or I can
say, "Okay, yes, no. Thumbs up. Smiley. Sad heart. Lol. Thanks. Got it done.
Nice. I don't know what. Why? What's up?" Okay. Give me a moment. On my way.
Sounds good. Big happy face. Very sad face. And a heart.
That's just too many options. I know. By the time I scroll through all that, I
could take my phone out. In the actual app, there's just three usually.
Um uh but like I don't know that I I
actually like it because it start but in because it's so creepy that it's
starting to get really good. Like it started I was even talking to John about
it. It has started suggesting responses that sound more like something that I
would actually say. Oh, mine hasn't
really gotten any better. I don't use it. Mine's gotten better. Huh. And I've
rarely used it. I think it's just farming the data from my Gmail. That's
very interesting. Like I got one that was like, "Okay, great. That's awesome."
And I was like, "That's exactly what I
was going to type." Yeah. So, the next step is when it doesn't even bother
asking you to press the button. It just does it. It's just like boop. You can
delete it if you want, but it's already there. Yeah. Yeah. Really pretty epic.
All right. I don't know how we got here, but I think we're now on ASUS Threadripper Mobile unboxing. Yeah. So, this
is from videocards.com. So, honestly, there's
not a whole lot to it. Um, the only
thing that was miss So, I've seen the board already. The only thing that was
missing was the accessories, but now we're able to have a look at what is
included. So, there's some kind of PCI Express riser card. I'm going to guess
that's like M.2 or something. What is the point of doing an unboxing like this
and leaving all the stuff in the packaging? Did they really do that?
Okay, so yeah, here's an M.2 Riser Doodad uh four-way SLI bridge. Why? I
guess if this is like um like a a just for benchmarking type
of product that it's pretty high-end, so might make sense. Um be super surprised.
We've got like a GPU support bracket. It looks like we've got uh
ginormal Wi-Fi antennas. So, this is going to have like ad Wi-Fi, I think. Uh
big page of stickers. There's a PC Ethernet card.
This is what I don't get. You know, why?
And this is coming from someone who actually
made his mark like and and built his
career on unboxing
videos. Why did unboxing videos ever
need to exist when you could just have this? I mean, yes, this is sort of a
crap job they did of it, but like if you could just have I think it's uh harder
to do like you can do a really really crap job with a video unboxing and it
can still be better than this.
Do you know what I'm saying? But I I can see like I've watched a lot of I've
watched a lot Yeah. But it doesn't necessarily m No, not really. Look how
much light glint is on these freaking packages. I mean, this is a This one
literally has the anti-atic on it. You can't tell what it is. That's useless.
This is literally useless. This is also useless. So is that. Is that a box of
something? I can't tell. All these other things have light glint on it. I can't tell what the vast majority of these
things are. Okay. All right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. But assuming this picture wasn't taken by like But that's
the point. If it's a video, it'll be moving. You'll probably be able to see better what it is. So you'll be able to
Okay. So you're Are you really making the argument I think Hold on. Hold on.
You're telling me that video is better because you could watch frame by frame
and maybe see the like part where you could I have for like really weird niche
products. I have watched terrible like
cell phone in the hand one hand unboxing videos of it to try to figure out what's
actually going on and like kind of scrubbed through it so I could see
better because it was that bad and it has answered questions that I've been
looking for. I've had it work for me.
Okay. All right. I'll let it slide on
this one. Um, also announced is the Crosshair
6 Extreme. So,
they're uh they're finally going full high-end on
AM4. So, RGB lighting blah blah blah for
more than a decade. It really it really does speak to the industry's confidence
in Ryzen. Yeah. that we're finally seeing truly high-end boards because I
would have AMD fans complain that like
all the good boards are for Intel. Yeah. And it's like Yeah.
Because other than like a handful of
people who are completely blind to the
products that exist, other than them,
anybody else with, you know, $200 plus
dollars to spend on a board is buying an
Intel chip right now. Sorry.
And the motherboard manufacturers, they don't just they don't just know this
from like a they have an ounce of sense
and can read a benchmark chart. They know this from a they are seeing actual
real sales numbers. Yeah. As AMD's lineup gets more and more and more
irrelevant. At this point in time, if I was building a new system, I would be
very heavily looking at AMD, which isn't something that I've been able to say for
a very long time. and seeing this kind
of variety in the products that are available. Seeing someone like ASUS go,
okay, sure. Yeah, we've got the confidence to put the R&D behind what
will probably be a $300 to $400 board US
to put the R&D behind it because we know that we're going to get enough of even
this kind of high-end product moved off the shelf that we're going to recoup
that cost and maybe even make some money. to see that is really confidence
inspiring. I am I am just stoked. Um
yeah, man. I don't really know. I don't really know what else to say about that.
I don't necessarily have the same confidence in Vega. Um, you're gonna
have to wait for you're gonna have to wait for the video to see the full kind
of rant, but Frontier Edition is like
far more of a piece of garbage than other reviews necessarily indicated. So,
our our review of it is basically like
this is this is an early access game.
Like this is this is paying more for
like access to the select DLC so that
you can have the buggy gaming experience
and then not even get the like expansion pack that you then have to go and buy
anyway. That's when they actually fix it.
Like it's a bad product.
I'm really excited for that video. Yeah, it's it's going to be one of those ones
where like the vast majority of the people who
watch it are going to be sensible people who can look at the the comment section
in there is going to be horrible. So, so there's going to be So, I'm I'm talking
thumbs up, thumbs down. Okay. So there's going to be the the the vast majority of
like sensible people who can look at at
facts objectively and who can look at benchmarks objectively and who don't
leave a comment because they just aren't that invested in it. And then there's
going to be everybody else who engages with this video and is
like and that's exactly what those people sound like. Like even the other
side of the pool, cuz you're talking about people that would dislike
something because you dislike something that is from AMD. Even from the other
side of the pool, we were just talking about how cool this stuff is. This Oh, I
guess they can't see it on screen, but on online is the screen right now. This AMD stuff. Um, and someone in the chat
in Twitch chat, I saw just scroll through. All caps everything. AMD.
No, no, no further information or
contacts. Just my this is my
opinion. I don't think that's cool cuz it's AMD.
I didn't ask. Yeah, but thanks, I guess.
I don't know. There's there there's people on each side. There there's
there's Intel fanboys, there AMD fanboys, there's NVIDIA fanboys, and
everybody hates each other. Yeah, everybody now the whole chat is just AMD
no AMD no. All right. Thank you. Thank you everyone. That's wonderful. I
appreciate it. All right. Uh next in the
news. So this was originally posted by Johnny Corporal Tech on the forum and
our original article here is from CBC.ca.
The dark web's largest illegal marketplace founded by a Canadian Oops.
I didn't know that. shut down by the US.
All right, so let's get into this one a little bit. So the US Justice Department
has officially shut down the dark web marketplace Alpha Bay, a site 10 times
as large as Silk Road, accused of allowing hundreds of thousands of people
to buy and sell drugs, firearms,
computer hacking tools, and other illicit goods. Cuz remember, there's
lots of illegal stuff besides like drugs
and guns. Like for example, um like a
cell phone signal jammer would be the kind of thing that totally definitely
exists. Super definitely is everywhere, but is
illegal to own or operate in pretty much
any developed nation, I would think. Yeah, definitely Canada. Yeah. Um, so,
so that's the kind of thing that could end up on a site like this. The
operation included the arrest of suspected Alphabet founder Alexandre
Kazes Kaz, a 25-year-old Canadian citizen
arrested on behalf of the United States in Thailand.
He apparently took his own life a week later while in Thai custody and he faced
charges relating to narcotics distribution, identity theft, money
laundering, and related crimes. Basically, he was screwed and he was
sure that he was not getting out, I guess. Yeah. Uh the usernames and
passwords of thousands of buyers and sellers of illicit commodities have been
identified and are subject to follow-up investigation by Europole. It's and
partner agencies. It's just usernames and passwords. Like I You know
what? Remember, this is the world where people
give televangelists money to buy private
jets. You know about this, right? No. Yeah.
This has happened. Oh, yes. more than once where they literally got up there
and they're like, "To spread the word of
God, I need a private jet, so send me anything you can spare."
Like, that's a thing. That's a real thing. They ride around in private jets
that they literally said they were going to buy with donation money taxfree. Um,
so don't
underestimate people's ability to use the same username and password that they
use on freaking Facebook for a dark web marketplace
where you buy like drugs. Yes. Don't
underestimate. Hopefully we get a follow-up article on this with like how
many people got screwed. I super duper
hope so. That would be entertaining. I I need to start the church of Lionus.
Okay. Twi Twitch chats like need church
of Lionus. I need a lot of Thread
Ripper. I think I would be an excellent spread the word of CPU. I think I would
be an excellent televangelist probably. I I I could I could have so much fun
with that stick.
Luckily, you're Woodfall. Wood would follow. Best church. love it. Okay,
we've got we've got ourselves at least
at least like 30 followers right now,
which which in some states is probably enough for tax exempt status.
So, we are we are doing this.
Awesome. Oh, man. Other people want Church of L. You can have your own
church. I'm I'm you know I'm No, we should make a uh I can be one of your
things. A denomination. Yeah. Like a Okay. So, it's actually like the Church
of Tech. Yes. So, you could be like Lucas or like um like uh uh you know
line ofism. Yes. Or Perfect. Yeah. And
then like we can pretend to like fight to make it more interesting just like uh
those guys that are really popular on YouTube right now that I can't remember the name of where they like pretend
little quarrels but then behind the scenes we're like just finding ways to
gather more money. Apparently John John Oliver's done it. I've heard of this.
There you go. Okay. All right. What hasn't John Oliver done and they like
had to pull it down cuz it was like working too well and stuff. Yeah. But I
think everyone knew it was a joke but people just wanted to contribute. was
ironically working. Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what was going on. But I mean,
that's still a that's still a pretty good scam. Was like, haha, let's show
all the idiots. Oh, well, give me money.
Oh, terrible. Yeah. All right. No, no.
The way we make money is uh much much
more above board than all of that because we tell you right now, actually,
I guess they are just saying, "Send me money so I can have a jet." Okay. So,
watch this ad spot so that I can buy.
Definitely not a jet something. Not a jet, but so you can hire more people.
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wanted to sell because I wasn't sure how great it was going to be to LTX being
like flipping going to be awesome. Um, I
I almost wish I like was hosting a booth is going to be super fun and a new
experience for a convention for me, but like as someone who really enjoys
conventions and having the conventions that I go to be less and less about
tech, seeing this is really exciting. Well, it's VR, dude. You could just
leave people in VR and like go away. That's fair. I could probably do that.
There's a case toss. Um, there's a Corsair key swapping competition and
there's like leaderboards, prizes. You wouldn't believe how like some companies
we reached out. We were like, "Hey, u can we get some prizes?" And they were
like, "Sure, here's like boxes of like
lanyards and cool crap." Some companies we reached out and we were like, "Hey,
could we get some swag?" And they were like, "Boom, here's a Titan XP. Boom.
Here's multiple GTX 1070s. Boom. Here's
limited edition uh GeForce USB drives.
or boom, here's literally like I think
ASUS sent like 300 or 400 t-shirts.
What? So, there's going to be like an ASUS t-shirt for like almost like every
other person who's there. This thing is going to be swag central. Wow. Giveaway
central. Well, okay, this is the thing. At like packs and stuff, all the really
cool giveaways used to be from the PC guys. It was rarely the gaming
companies. They might give out a shirt, but the PC hardware groups like MSI used
to have sick giveaways. I remember that. Uh NZXT used to have sick giveaways.
NVIDIA used to like giving away like shields like candy that one year. They
would go into BOC. What my one of my favorite experiences that I ever had at
a PAX was an NVIDIA giveaway in the BOC section. I didn't get to participate in
it cuz we weren't in BOC yet. We were in like the free play area, but we could
hear it cuz it was right beside it. The first thing they did was the first
person to rip an AMD card out of their system and hand it to me gets a brand
new top-of-the-line NVIDIA card. I don't remember what card it was. I think it
was like a 580 or something. But any AMD card out of your system, you get a 580.
The next one was like some weird competition. You got another 580. And there's more. By the way, because not to
be upstaged by NVIDIA, let me tell you,
AMD is going to have some stuff there. Some stuff that I actually can't even
talk about. Yeah. And some of the stuff that I can't even talk about might be
getting given away. Yeah. So, like this
is gonna be a thing. This is gonna be crazy. Um, we're going to have never
before seen Linus Media Group videos that will never be seen. Uh, whether
they were rejected by the brand or that we couldn't get music licensing figured
out for them. There's going to be a Channel Super Fun that will probably
never see the light that will that might
never otherwise see the light of day. Uh there's gonna be um let's see what else
we got. I don't know a lot of this stuff. 16K Gaming's gonna be there. Uh
the arcade machine's gonna be there. The oil PC is going to be there. The one and
only. And we're doing a silent auction for BC Children's Hospital where I went
around and I found a bunch of relics of
Lionus Tech Tips. So there's a reverb drive from the original Wik server. Oh,
that's pretty cool. So there it's like that kind of stuff weird. I was going to
have uh I was going to have Colt and Steph check with you, but I actually wanted to see if you want to do the
Fallout bomb. Oh, for sick kids. I might
end up just winning it. You would just buy it. It's even mine. Like that's
technically That's why I want That's why I told them
they had to ask you about it. You want to do it? We can do it. Yeah. I'll
probably just end up sick. I told them I told them that they couldn't do the
Scrapyard Wars PC. That would probably hurt me a little bit. that I I I told
them that was the limit, but they were like they wanted like a build of some
sort. They can do the bomb. So, okay. If not the bomb, then we'll have the plasti
dip PC. Okay. So, there will be a build
there that you'll be able to And the bomb is just an empty case, by the way, but there will be like a case that was
featured on still all the uh wiring. So,
like you could it's it it has all the like front IO that would be in a normal
case. So, you could build a system in there. uh recreating the thermal setup
that I had so that it wouldn't crash at like any load is going to be difficult.
But yeah, that actually took like a long
time. So anyway, LTX is going to be sick
and it's uh next next weekend, the 29th. And if you somehow are like I'm teched
out right now or I don't want to see video games or something for a while, there's like jousting, sumo wrestling,
uh bungee runs in real life toss, Rocket League in real life. There's an insane
amount. We're going to have onstage unboxings. Two exclusive onstage
unboxings. I think our biggest issue is going to be that it's uh not like 2 days
cuz there's so much stuff to do. Well, we were worried there wasn't going to be like anything to do. I know. So, we were
really careful with it. Like ample amounts. Well, you know what? What we'll
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friends and we have like, you know, thousands of people there next year,
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We could move on to the topic of hiring flow plane people.
Um, or we can move on to the topic of the Noctua fans. Interesting. Have you
not seen that? No. I kind of Okay. Yeah.
I was This was posted by Ventus on the
forum and apparently
uh so this is from r/build a PC posted by Kendalf. visible
manufacturing differences between Noctua fans made in Taiwan versus China.
Yeah, I'm really wondering what your opinion is on this actually.
I think the Twitch chat probably is too.
Wow. Yeah. So, the fan blades on the Taiwan fans are noticeably smoother and
more rounded. The flow acceleration channels on the
blades of the Taiwan fans are more defined.
The inner surface micro structures of the made in Taiwan's one have a distinct
water drop shape whereas the made in China are just a shallow triangular
cutout. I communicate I was going to say these sound like counterfeits even I
communicated these differences with Noctua and they claim that the
differences are within their manufacturing tolerances and do not
affect performance. But Noctua is known
for its reputation of the highest attention to detail. And I'm sure that's
al also really good. That the Noctua engineers designed these tiny details to
exacting specifications for some reason is basically what the the Reddit post
continues to say. You should try this one.
apparently. Now, I haven't heard them, but the made in China fans apparently
have a noticeably louder drone when spinning at the same RPM RPM as the
other fans. Now, Gamers Nexus is going to be
apparently um doing tests and going to be making a video on it, which is cool.
Or they're back. Uh check them out over at gamers nexus.com or uh they've got a
YouTube channel as well, so they'll probably make a video on this one. Good
guys over there. Yeah, they've been they've actually done a lot of good
content around this type of stuff. So, I enjoy that. This is more their
wheelhouse than ours anyway, but I'll definitely be paying close attention and
we can talk about it on W show in the future to how this works out. And I'm
definitely firing up an email over to my
contacts over there like what the heck
is going on because
like I I'll tell you guys something. So this this is sort of this is sort of uh
very sort of behind the scenes sort of in my brain how things work. Um one of
the business ideas that I would love to explore in the future as much as I love
selling digital influence which is a great business by the way because you
don't have any manufacturing costs you don't have to carry any inventory. Well,
I mean, okay, yes, you have to, you know, people like that, you know, and
equipment and all that kind of thing, but but but these are one-time costs.
Yeah. Not not per item. Yeah. You don't have to R&D a new freaking, you know,
nut and screw or whatever every time you get like it's brand just has to change
the lighting setup. It's somewhat more finite.
Um, so I like the business of selling digital influence, but one of the
companies that I would want to found when I have some more time and when I am
able to do it would be a manufacturer of
a physical product. And a lot of the philosophy that I'm
developing for this company is actually borrowed from my perception of Noctua.
Yeah, because I thought of Noctua that they were like
the founders were somehow deeply involved in aerodynamics research or
something at some university over there. I don't remember where I heard it, but
like someone told me that someone told them that like that was the background,
but that wasn't what happened at all. Rascom, the parent company of Noctua,
was just like a smalltime European
computer hardware distributor, like um
you know, like a like a like a you know, Frozen CPU before they went down. So, so
they were just a distributor of other people's parts. And then Frozen is
actually a perfect example of a company that also developed their own products
at one point and then completely went off the deep end.
Um, so when I found that out, I kind of went, well, how is it that your fans are
the best? And they kind of went, well, I
I went, "Do you have like brilliant amazing engineers?" And they were like,
"Well, yeah, we have like, you know, good engineers, but but they're not, you
know, leading researchers in the field of, you know, fluid dynamics or
anything. They're they're engineers." And I was like, "Well, then why are
yours better than someone else's?" And they're like, "Because we don't release
it until it's right." Because of attention to detail. Because we care.
And this doesn't sound like caring or attention to detail. No, it doesn't. So,
this is kind of like this is kind of shaking because this is kind of shaking
the foundation of a business that I, you know, haven't invested a dollar into
yet. Like, I'm I'm not even close to starting it. But one that I that I do
want to start at some point and that I that I had planned to build around
basically the knock to a philosophy. Charge as much as it takes to make a
profit on the best product you could build. So it's going to be expensive,
but make sure that what you build is the best. That was that was the idea. And
I'm I'm sort of, you know, I don't want to get ahead of myself because if
there's anything that I'm a fanboy of, it's Noctua fans. Yes. So, I'm not going
to freak out yet. I also want to point out that the link that I posted in the
chat for the uh Reddit conversation does have a video doing the sound comparison.
It does have a lot of uh frame color difference pictures. It has a lot of
comparison images for a ton of different things. This guy has done a lot of work.
He's obviously affected. He might be as much of a Noctua fanboy as you are.
Wow. Huh. Well, let's um so see how that
goes. I'm interested. Yeah. If this is if this
is true, what is what is the name of that
other brand? Um they're black and white fans. Oh,
noise blocker. Noise blocker. If this is true, will you actually try a noise
blocker fan? Wow.
Cuz this is Okay, this has been a like I don't bring it up much cuz we talked
about it a lot a long time ago and this conversation has
just concluded like there's nothing else to really talk about. It was just like
no, I found a fan. I really like it. This is this is perfect and I'm going to
use it forever and I'm going to use it forever and that's fine. It's a fan. you
you found one that fit your specifications. And it's not so much
that I refused to use Noise Blocker or something like that. It's just like if
Noise Blocker was better than an
NFF12, then it it like it really wasn't by much. And a big part of what I
trusted about Noctua and trust about Noctua trusted. I don't know. It's like
I don't know what I don't know what anything is anymore. A big part of what
a big part of what I have trusted about Noctua is inside information that I have
from being the product manager on their line and seeing real world RMA rates.
They don't die or like anything can die, but they generally don't. Very uncommon.
Very reliable. I'm I'm just saying right now, but if
all these other things could be different, maybe that could be different, too. Noise Blocker Black
Silent Pro fans look really
slick. I'm just saying. All right. Well, speaking of companies that um are
capable of both delighting and disappointing me, our next bit of news
posted by HK05 on the forum is
originally from videocards.com and is a rumor about
Intel. So, Intel is allegedly working on
multiple hex core coffee lake CPUs. So,
Coffee Lake for those of you not familiar will be the replacement to KB
Lake and that will be a mainstream processor. So, this tells us
a couple things. This tells us either that Intel of its own accord had been
finally intending to deliver a sixcore mainstream processor
anyway before AMD dropped Ryzen. Yeah.
or that Intel became aware that Ryzen
was going to be pretty good through corporate
espionage far before the rest of the industry knew about it and started
working on this um or just already had
it and just decided not to do anything with it. I don't think so because if
they'd already had it, they could have done it with KB Lake, right? Whereas
Coffee Lake is going to be a new platform. So, it's going to be a new
chipset. I think if they had been if
they had known about it two years ago, we'd have it in KB Lake. Yeah. Whereas
if they knew about it like a year and a half ago, then either they decided on
their own, it's time or or they weren't
willing to throw a fast one at motherboard manufacturers again so hard
with mainstream processors. Okay, that's it might be easier to throw a fast one
at them with motherboards that they won't have to make nearly as many of.
This could be very disruptive to Ryzen.
Yeah, but I think Ryzen has AMD as a
whole probably at this point gotten a lot more customers just because people
are more interested in them because they're tired of some of the crap from the other side. I can see that. Um, and
I feel like a lot of the communication that's currently going around AMD isn't
going to go away even if Intel releases a good processor because there are
certain like business practice things that people didn't like. That's true.
Yep. You can. So, I think those communication lines might keep them
going. And I mean, a lot of people will buy based on a particular
brand loyalty. Yeah. Or you'll see a post on PCMR that's like, "Oh, these are
great." And just go buy them. And if either product is like good, yeah, then
there's really nothing wrong with that. And people aren't going to fight super hard if they're both good products.
Like, you know, you go back, you go back far enough to when, you know, uh AMD and
NVIDIA were pretty comparable. So, like,
you know, we could look at the um like the X X800 era or something like that.
like an X800 Pro was like pretty
freaking similar to a 7800 GT or
whatever the contemporary one was. I can't I can't remember exactly. Um was
it 60 6800 6800 GT? I don't I don't
remember. Anyway, they were pretty darn close. It came down to whether you liked
Catalyst Control Center or was it still called Detonator at the time? I don't
remember. Whatever NVIDIA's driver was called. Thank you to everyone in the Twitch chat that is currently going
Intel. No, I love that that meme is still
going. All right. Anyway, here's kind of
the summary of these rumors. K version
will have a 3.7 GHz base with hyperthreading enabled. So that's 12
threads and the nonK running at 3.2 TDP
of 95 watts which should be quite doable. And then there will apparently
and that'll be the flagship. So that'll be the
8700, the 8700 series. Then the uh there
will be a six core i5 as well. Wow. Oh,
that's interesting. With that being the
slowest six core desktop, the 8600 K 3.6
GHz and then 95 watt TDP, no
hyperthreading. Wait, no. The slowest six core will be a Core
i58400. Wow. So that could be like that
could be like $170. $175 price point.
Oo, that one that the article is saying looks like a direct response to AMD's
Ryzen 5. Intel will also apparently introduce an actual mobile CPU with six
cores with much lower clock speeds and a 45 watt TDP. So, you'd expect to find
that in something like an Acer Predator 21X refresh or something along those
lines. Wow.
It's apparently Okay, so sorry. I I just got to give an update on the the nose in
chat. One more thing. It's apparently unclear at this time whether these will
require new motherboards, though I would have thought they would. Yeah. So, don't
quote me on that one. I suspect they will. Um, it it has divulged it. It
started with AMD no and then it it transferred into Intel no with this
article, which was funny, and now it's just turned into like anything no.
Perfect. It's just it's it's chaos. It's chaos in Twitch chat. The the bots's
banning everybody. It's just it's it's hell out there, man. You got to you got
to fight to survive.
All right. So, we can probably skim Yeah, there really isn't much going on
here. Oh, okay. Um, so Nintendo applied
for a patent for its uh Nintendo 64
controller. They reapplied for Nintendo 64 controller patents. Um, so there's
probably a Nintendo 64 classic coming after the SNES Classic. Um, but who
knows and it's not coming for a long time and it's pretty expected that that
would happen anyways. So, yeah. Cool.
Yeah. Can you like how much are NAS Classics at this point? Very expensive.
Um, apparently people have found some that got restocked. Hm. So, there's a
little bit of rumor going around that they might start actually manufacturing all them instead of just having them as
one year because it's so stupid. Yeah. Like it's just money. There's a lot of
people that want to have the set like Nintendo. Why do you hate money? Yeah. I
just I don't even They have so much. I I
really love it when people are like, "Man, that was a stupid decision from Nintendo. They're going to die as a
company." I'm like, "No, they're not. Nintendo can survive for like ever while
making terrible decisions because they have so much money. It doesn't even
matter. They they'll like fail repeatedly and then just release another
like Wii or Switch. The Switch is doing incredibly well. It's like, oh, the Wii
U didn't matter and no one knew it existed. That's fine. Nintendo will just
survive and then just smash the gaming world again with some other new console.
Doesn't matter. They have like a way more intense version of the Microsoft
like every second OS thing. Mhm.
Yeah. Um H this is kind of funny. Yeah.
Posted by Dasin on the forum. The original article here is from the
BBC. A Chinese mall introduces husband
storage pods for shopping wives. Husbands can play old school games like
Tekken 3 in the pods.
I'm I'm also going to chime in. I want this in North American malls. Okay. No,
not necessarily. Uh, apparently there's no ventilation or air conditioning. Some
guy sat in and played for 5 minutes and was just drenched in sweat. Okay, so
maybe better ones. Yeah, maybe better ones. So, these are glass pods where
women can leave their partners while they shop. Inside each individual pod is
a chair, monitor, computer, and game pad, and men can sit and play retro
1990s games. Service is currently free.
Yeah, but in the future, users will have to pay to scan a QR code. All right. Pay
and scan a QR code to use the service. They should just make it so that you
like pair up with the person that you're shopping with and as they make
purchases, it like gives you more time. You know what I mean? So, you
don't actually have to pay for it. It's just tied in with like some someone in your group is spending money at the
mall. So, you get to stay in your little pod. And they should make it so you can
like order food to it and everything. It'd be awesome. Uh, I just also want to
bring up that the the nos in chat switched to uh money no, Nintendo no,
and profit no. So, excellent. Good job. Thank you for the update. Keep going.
Um, love to see it. The original article here is from Tech Crunch. YouTube
launches its counterterrorism experiment for wouldbe ISIS recruits. And uh
basically what's going on here is that
now when a potential ISIS recruit searches for known extremist content on
YouTube using a predefined set of keywords, they will instead be
redirected to videos that deconstruct and confront the terrorist group. So uh
no. ISIS no. ISIS no. I get way too much
entertainment from this. I I am completely okay with this. So these are
curated YouTube videos debunking ISIS
recruiting themes. This open methodology was developed from interviews with ISIS
defectors, respects users privacy, and can be deployed to tackle other types of
violent recruiting discourses online. So that's where this gets kind of dicey.
That does get a little where is the line? Yeah. So the recruit the redirect
method began with an 8week pilot program enlisting 320,000 viewers that explored
some key insights around the kind of things that potential ISIS recruits
search for. To be fair though, this YouTube is not a government website.
Mhm. They can suggest and they have a suggestion algorithm. They can suggest
whatever they want to you. This is why stuff like Floatplane makes sense.
Except maybe not for that type of content. out. But like if you if you
want to specifically see one thing that you're searching for, going to one
website that has like a crazy machine learning algorithm that's trying to just
give you what it wants to give you is not necessarily the greatest way to go.
So effective deterrence apparently include documentary videos is a good
idea. Citizen journalism. That one's interesting. Videos that feature
religious debates and videos from ISIS
defectors. I wouldn't have thought necessarily the third one. The religious
debate one is weird because I could just see that fueling someone even more.
Well, maybe not. I mean, maybe these people are obviously Okay. Okay. I'm
going to be careful here. But I would
think that someone who manages to be converted to an
extremist is probably pretty um how you
say uh the the force would work on them.
They're probably pretty simple, suggestable. Yes. Right. Okay, there we
go. Yeah, it wouldn't take an Obi-Wan cuz he has a special gift for it. Just
basically anyone. Basically anyone. So, if you just throw a debate in front of
them, maybe that even Qui-Gon, who never successfully does it in the movies,
would be able to manage it. Too too many Star Wars memes. Sorry. Um, yeah, I
that's interesting. I like I I can't be upset
about it.
this particular instance I have no issue with at all. Um, seeing where this goes
could be a big problem. Uh, again, I personally think it's private company.
It's not a government agency. They can kind of do whatever they want. Uh, I
might not like it, but that would just incite people to use other platforms
more if they abuse it. So, just do that. Again, it's a it's a private company.
You have the freedom to use other things if you would like to. Um, hopefully they
don't take it much further than this. Trying to stop people from becoming
terrorists. Heck yeah. Super down with that. Trying to stop people from using
Edge browser.
And that's the WAN Show for today. Thank you guys for tuning in. We
will see you again next week. Same. Let's not actually leave yet. Oh,
there's two things that we still have to do. What do we have to do? One, uh, I'm
recruiting for Floatplane. If you want to be a developer and you want to come
join us, there's there's a video on our Facebook page and on our Twitter right
now and on Floatplane if you want to see it. Uh unfortunately, I am looking
specifically for Canadians or Americans
who have a degree in a highly related field like computer science or like
software engineering. It has to be very directly related. Um that is because of
like immigration law and all this kind of stuff. We we have already picked up
two guys uh that don't fit within that
realm and it's been a problem trying to get them into Canada and trying to keep
them employed because Canada doesn't want you to have people who are employed
who don't live in Canada when you don't have an office outside of Canada blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. So, we're trying to make this process a little bit
easier and we're just going for Canadians or Americans with a full
bachelor's degree. That one's nice, too. I was Yeah, I was telling you earlier to
try it out. It's good. They're new flavors. Very good. Um, so yeah, if you
are interested, you want to apply back and front end. Um, check out those
videos. It goes into more specifics there about even what the heck float
plane is. Employment, no. What you'd be doing. Is that what people are doing
now? Employees, no. Canada, no. Edge,
no. Oh god, I love that. I don't know
why I love that so much, but I do. Also, we should go over what's on flow plan
right now. Right. But you can't miss two weeks in a row. That would be rough.
Dang it. I'm not signed in. What a nerd. I know.
What a nerd. Whatever. These guys have been watching for like I'm talking about
the uh the archive. If anyone actually
made it this far into the video, what's another like 30 seconds
fair? Shoot. That's not the That's the wrong one. What am I even doing? I'm
busy enjoying this
jerky. Hey, someone said Floatplane. Yes.
I'll take that meme
break. Sorry, I have to sign into
uh I have to sign into my password manager in order to sign in.
Oh. Oh, everything is
awful. All in the name of security though, right?
Pretty much. Yep. Yep. That's a
security. I'm just tired of having
accounts compromised. Yeah,
that was no fun. No, that wasn't a lot of fun. 200k. No, I will not be paying
you 200k a year.
And in response in response to your answer, no, I will not be doing it
either. Yeah.
All right. Let's see if that works. Boom. We're in. All right. Someone's
like 200k. Yes.
So, what do we got? Casino technology is f. That's actually a pretty good
episode. It's been a little The comments on that have been interesting cuz there
some people feel quite strongly about casinos. I didn't really expect that was
going to be a thing of like gambling addiction and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. What does that have to do with us
though? I don't know. It's just been an interesting comment section.
Interesting. Um necessarily been pointed at us. It's
just been interesting. Mezzanine update 11 is now here. Yay. Woo. Look at that.
It's actually coming along. Yeah.
Five truly unusual graphics cards. They
truly are unusual. I I got to give us credit for titling this one very
correctly. That's a fan. Oh. Yeah.
That's unusual. That's a thing. Yeah. Yep. The world's most amazing desk PC.
16K gaming build log.
D. See, I I I think you could have had an even clickier title for that. Um, I
don't think the interesting part there is the desk PC. It's all the monitors. I
think the thumb Well, that that's the subject of this one is actually building
the desk PC and getting everything mounted. So, there's this is part one of
two. Ah, so the other one focuses more
on the monitors. Part two might even do better. Part two is the one that I
expect to like beat 8K gaming. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Cool. Um, yeah. Another 16K.
Yes. Another rant about Red Digital Cinema is coming. There you go. To
YouTube or you can watch it on Floatplane now.
There you go. $7,000 card. That's actually a pretty cool video. I watched
that. Um, DJI Spark videos up. Uh, what
else we got? I think uh I think that might be it. Oh, this project or that
thing is insane. The This is like actually insane. So, this was half of
the joke when I did that stupid thing with SLI red. Yes. Red. No.
You've started a monster now. I love it. It's so It's like 80% of the Twitch chat
right now. So, this was part of the joke when I said world's smallest SLI with
those stupid USB drives is that we actually will have the world's smallest
SLI coming up on the channel very soon. That's awesome. with 1080 Ti this time.
Like for real. All right, so thank you for tuning
in to the WAN Show. We will see you again next week. Same batch time. Same
batch channel. Bye. Oh, wait. No, before you go, uh, here's a link to where you
can join Floatplane Club. You should join so you can go binge watch all that stuff. Yeah, the 16K monitors setup desk
PC thing is pretty insane. It's like super dope. It's insane. Everybody stop
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