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So, we've all got that friend, right? You know, the one who spent all his

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money on a sick gaming PC, but then you're gaming together and he's all

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like, "Man, my PC sucks. It's no good."

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But then you're all like, "Bro, you got to get your hitching and starters under

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control. We lost again cuz of you." But then your other buddy's like, "That's

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good hardware, though. He probably just built it wrong or he misconfigured

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something." But then buddy's all like, "No way. I watched Lionus. I got all his

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tech tips." But here's the thing. Even

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when you're following a guide, it's easy to miss a small detail that can have a

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big impact on your gaming experience. And that is what we think is going on

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with Connor's computer. He's got a sick rig with an RTX 3080 Ti and an X3D

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gaming CPU. And yet, he's constantly bogged down by performance issues. Well,

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I think we can fix them. And I've got just the man for the job. Blof. That's

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right. It's time to fix Conor's

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computer. >> But first, I'm gonna have to segue to

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description.

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My name is Connor and I'm a video editor here at Linus Media Group. Inside my PC,

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I've got a 3080 Ti, a 5800 X3D, and

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about not about exactly 32 GB of RAM. I

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got two of my friends to build my PC for me back in 2019. They watched Linus Tech

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Tips, so they knew how to build PCs. Currently, what's wrong with my computer

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is that it just slows down all the time. Like I can play one match of a game and

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then I start experiencing stutters and the game takes too long to load. The

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weirdness isn't only in games. It also happens outside of games as well. So if

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I if my computer is stuttering and feeling quite poor, it translates to

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like my browser as well. It's not exclusively in games. Today I'm hoping

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to just find anything wrong with my PC. I've thrown my head against the wall a

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million times and I always get jealous when I use other people's computers. So,

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I just want to figure out something that I did wrong over the past 6 years

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>> or something that your two friends did. >> Ah, yeah. Something that my friends messed No, it's honestly something that

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LT messed up 6 years ago.

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>> Connor, we decided to do this video because I was watching the Steam Average

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PC and I noticed that you thought that computer with a 3060 and I can't not a

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5800 X3D uh was better than this and I

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thought that can't be right. >> Yeah, me neither. I don't know. It just felt better. I don't know. What can I

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say? I'd be more than happy to play it like this. Probably runs better than my home

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PC. >> How long does it take for you to start experiencing issues in a match?

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>> A few matches in. It also depends on the game I'm playing, but a few matches in.

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Tarov is notoriously bad for memory leaks and everything. Um, but even with

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Valerant, a few matches in. Um, I'm teleporting around corners and not in a

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good way. >> Oh, that's really bad. >> To be fair, if it's teleportation and

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stuff, it might be a network issue. >> Yeah. >> But we'll look at your computer at least

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today. M >> we'll try to find out what's wrong with it. Best case scenario, it's something

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easy and we fix it almost immediately. In which case, I'll go through the rest

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of our beautiful troubleshooting Connor's computer list.

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I just want to take a quick look at it and see if there's anything out of the

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ordinary. And um I see this fan's not spinning. I don't think I had enough um

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fan headers. >> Yeah. Or I'm just Well, on the plus

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side, we have a lot of splitters. So, at the very least, I'll make sure all your

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fans are spinning. >> Okay. And I see you've got neighbor media capture card.

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>> Yeah. >> And then, yeah, power supplies up top. You have any extra hard drives? These

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are just empty bays. Oh, no. I believe there's one in each.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And then at least one SSD on this side.

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>> It's a little dusty, but it's definitely not the worst I've seen. I do love all

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your stickers. >> Thank you. >> I'm a big sticker bomb guy myself. If

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anything, I'd put more stickers. I'm a big weeb, so I had to take one off

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before coming in, though. >> Why'd you have to take it off?

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>> I don't want HR coming after me.

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>> I might need you to come back to log into Steam or something for me. Um, but

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otherwise, get out of here. >> Bye. >> Get out of here, Connor.

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>> Don't type P in the search bar.

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>> Step one, check to see if things are just in the wrong spots. Uh, you

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wouldn't believe how many times I've looked at a computer that my friend or

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someone else has built and they've got the graphics card in the bottom x16 slot

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or something like that. His first top x16 is like what I'm assuming is is uh

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filled by his GPU. Um, so that's fine.

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The memory is in two and four. That's

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probably correct, but I will confirm once I get the exact board details and

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take a look at the manual. His cables seem nice and seated. Um, he is running

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a pigtail on his 3080 Ti. It's unlikely

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but possible that that's not enough juice for the single cable. So, if we

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have an extra PCIe 8 pin cable, then I might swap one of these out. But

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otherwise, you know, it looks pretty normal. That's it for step one.

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Everything is connected and it looks like it's all connected in the right

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spot. Before we move on, I'm just going to make sure that yes, the RAM is in the

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right or wrong slot. I'm going to first figure out what board it is. You don't

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need to turn it on. Most of the time, markings are pretty easily identifiable

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right on the PCB. And you can see it here, silk screened on, is X470 Gaming

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M7, uh, Gaming M7 there. And then there's some MSI logos on the back. And

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I just popped that exact X470 Gaming M7

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into Google and got the web page from MSI. And it does look

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like they're populated in the correct slots, A2, B2. So, the next thing we're

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going to do is make sure that nothing's thermal throttling. All right, first

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things first. We're going to boot up Task Manager just to make sure

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everything is as it should be. We've got our 5800 X3D. Uh, everything looks

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correct. It's barely being utilized. Um,

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seems fine. Memory though, it is 32

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gigs, but Connor does not have XMP enabled,

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and it's running at 2133. Uh, for DDR4,

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that's the Yep, that's what DDR4 does without XMPP. Um, this is almost

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definitely the problem. Let's take a quick look at everything else. It all

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kind of seems good. Ethernet is really going. He's probably just downloading a

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game or something. It's probably just like some update going on right now. And then his GPU 41C. It's a 3080 Ti. All

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right. Not doing anything. Seems totally

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fine. Let me get uh Cinebench

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and firmware installed. We got Cinebench

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R23 installed. Could use R24. Doesn't matter. They're both going to hit the

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CPU super hard. And I'm just going to hit CPU multi-core. And I've got

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hardware info open so we can watch our temperatures as it runs. Start. It's

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going. You know, the Wraith Stealth is not a

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bad cooler for a 5800X 3D, I got to say, because while, yeah, we hit like 90 C on

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the T die, that's totally fine for Cinebench, we're not going to see those

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temps in games. And it's barely 90. This

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thing could go even hotter and it'd be totally performant. So, this is probably

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fine. Let's run Firmark and see if our GPU has any issues with it. Give this a

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good like 10 plus minutes just for it to kind of soak up all those thermals and

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then we'll come back and see how it's doing.

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We're only maxing out on the GPU hotspot around like 84C. Memory is saying 96.

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That's totally fine. GPU temp overall 74. So, I'm going to go ahead and say

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that both our CPU and our GPU are running at perfectly normal

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temperatures. But you always want to check because it's a really easy way to

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lose performance. We're not overheating. So, let's check out our BIOS. I'm going

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to turn this on.

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Where's this power button? There we go. And then, uh, I'm not going to check.

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I'm just going to mash delete. Hope it goes to BIOS.

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All right. We got our BIOS up here. It's a little dated. You know, it's say M4.

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Uh, but we're going to go to advanced and then actually overclocking probably

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OC explore mode normal. Uh, sure. Let's

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keep it a normal. That's fine. Game boost switch. I don't know what game

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boost switch is. We're going to leave that. But AXMP DRAM setting. Oh god.

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Okay. So, we're going from 2133

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CL16 to 3200

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CL16. XMPP was disabled. We've enabled that

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now. That should be a massive uh jump in performance. Okay, we've checked XMPP.

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We didn't check power limits. We made this list before I remembered that it

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was an AM4 system. That's okay. It's still something you should do if you can

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or have to. After you've made your changes, don't forget to hit save and

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exit. Probably the first thing I'm going to look at is Connor's startup apps

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because uh I'm just getting into Windows. Connor, the next step is

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bloatware. >> And I dragged you over here to just make

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sure that we can turn off some startup apps because your computer takes forever

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to boot. You know this is this is true. >> Yeah. >> What do you not need? Like let like like

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>> do you really need Battlelet every single How much Battleet do you play?

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Like >> I don't play Battle Net, >> right? You're not even using You're not

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using anything from Blizzard anymore. Okay. So that's just getting off. >> Okay. What about EA? You love the EA

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app. It's >> I bought it for one game and I'm not playing it. So

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>> goodbye Epic Games Launcher. Hell no. >> Goodbye. I don't know what program is.

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We're just going to leave it there. >> Okay. >> We just got rid of like at least five,

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if not like seven or eight things at startup.

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>> Wow. >> I'm not saying this is going to like make your startup be instant.

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>> Yeah. >> But it's going to be a little faster. >> Yeah. I I the main reason I haven't done

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this is because I thought you had to go into the programs to turn it off. I didn't know you could just do it from

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settings. >> I'm learning. go to the startup apps and

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just just turn them off. That's crazy.

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Now that we've adjusted our startup apps so that a lot less is actually starting

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up, what we wanted to do was look at his storage solution. Uh just to make sure

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that Yep, there it is. He's got 24.8

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gigs left out of a 4655 gig drive.

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That's okay. Um but the bar is getting red and I personally like to have at

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least about 10% of my storage drive just stay free. I'm going to run Winderstat

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just to see what files he's got where and see what kind of space we can free

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up. I'm not going to delete anything right now in case he wants to save

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stuff, but this way he'll at least have a good idea of where to look and what he

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can at least move around cuz he's got tons of other storage drives on here that he can just offload files. Just as

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I suspected, he's got 90 gigs worth of videos. Bunch of Valerant and

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Counterstrike. Probably some Tarov stuff. Yeah, some Tarov videos here. Um,

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these are clips that he might want to keep, so I'm not going to delete them,

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but he can at least move them later and free up 90 plus gigs of storage. Uh, and

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that should be plenty. As for actual

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debloating, um, there's not a ton on here. Yeah,

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nothing really stands out here as

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particularly bad bloat wear. So, we're

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actually going to keep this as is. >> There's your problem right there. fan's

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not working. >> The one fan doesn't spin. It ran out of headers and he doesn't have any

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Ysplitters. I'm going to fix that for him. >> I'm going to I'm going to give him a

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Ysplitter. Also, his none of his RGB works. Uh he doesn't he didn't realize

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he needs an IQ link. >> Oh, yeah. >> With IQ. Can we give him an IQ link?

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>> Right. Yeah. Yeah. >> We probably have some of those. >> We should give him an IQ test.

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>> I haven't finished the entire list as you can see. >> Yeah. But the main thing is it's AM4 and

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he's using 32 gigs of RAM and it was running at 2133 MHz.

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>> Yeah. >> CDR4 you are going to want to be running

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in the sweet spot which is like 50%

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higher than that. >> Yeah. He has 3200 mega transfers uh

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modules. >> No. >> So it's like perfect. Like he'd go to 36, but

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>> but he just didn't enable DOCP >> AXMP or something on this. It's AM4.

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It's an MSI board. I don't know what to tell you. So that's disabled right now.

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>> Okay. And this is Tarov. Go ahead and try it. It's not super bad, but every

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now and then, >> it hitches. >> Did you see that? That was a huge yikes.

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>> Right. And so he's talking about how he'll be playing Tarov or whatever and

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some guy will come around the corner and his game will hitch and he'll die. >> Yeah.

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>> Which 100%. Right. >> Oh, I would die if that happened. >> Totally. And and that's a symptom of um

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memory for DDR4 3200, 3600. There's

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another one. Perfect. Perfect. >> Oh, I see it now. And you shouldn't be

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having those kinds of stutters on a system of this caliber. >> Got a 5800 X3D and a 3080 Ti.

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>> Yeah, this is a great rig. >> It should be chewing up this game.

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>> Absolutely. >> There's another one. >> So, at this point, I'm going to

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reinstall NVIDIA drivers. I noticed that he didn't even have the NVIDIA app on

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here. I don't think we need a fresh drive with the games installed. I don't

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think I have to receat stuff. Was another bad one. Yeah. Um, and I don't

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think we need to check for hardware failures because I, you know, I have to

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confirm that it's XMPP. I haven't enabled it and then gamed again. >> Yeah, this is almost certainly that

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though. I don't think this is a defective GPU. You're not getting any artifact data. You just have a awful

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bottleneck. Yeah, >> I'd say we could even go one step further and turn on PBO boost.

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>> Oh, sure. I can turn on PBO. Yep. >> 5800X 3D is not a super power hungry

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chip. So, even though we've got a stock cooler on there, I bet we could squeeze

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a little bit more out of it. throw a Y splitter to get >> actually might not even turn this one on

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>> because what you're going to be doing is you're going to be just >> going straight into that one.

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>> Yeah, I don't think this is going to do anything useful. Noctua published that

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thing recently where they showed the optimal fan layouts and it really is not

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good to just have your intake blowing straight into your exhaust. >> It makes sense. You're just making like

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a little wind tunnel. >> Yeah. So, I would maybe even just take it out.

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>> Yeah. He's got it reverse. So, this is like intake and then it's exhausting. >> Yeah. probably give it the old

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>> I'm going to dust it with a duster and then I'm his cable management is not

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great. I'm going to spend 5 10 minutes cleaning up his cables a little bit. >> It's amazing the impact of a small

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misconfiguration. Oh yeah. And this is what drives me crazy about the building

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PCs is just adult Lego crowd. It's easy for you because you know when you don't

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know >> you don't know. >> You don't know. >> You know what the best part is? His his

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two friends who built him the computer are fans.

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>> Now we're going to update our graphics driver. And Connor uh doesn't have

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GeForce Experience or the app. Um but I checked in device manager display

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adapters um his 3080 Ti properties. And I can see that his driver date is

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actually pretty recent. It's from 2025 May mid May 14th. So that's not too bad.

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But we are going to install the NVIDIA app for him. Um just cuz it works fine

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and it's a pretty easy way to keep your stuff up to date. Uh and this is super

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easy. Just go to NVIDIA's website or just search NVIDIA app. download NVIDIA

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app for gamers and creators. But yeah, there's definitely a fresh driver. Um

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the newest one's from July 1st. So, we're going to go ahead download install

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that. Once that's done, we're going to check and see if there are any Windows updates to install. We'll get those

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downloaded and ran. Easy peasy. His new game ready drivers installed. We're

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going to click restart later because I want to do all of the Windows updates now. Windows updates.

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View optional updates. Uh we don't want to do the Windows 11 stuff. Driver

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updates. Anything. Intel Corporation Bluetooth driver. Let's get the Bluetooth driver. And that should be it.

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Once all of these updates are finished installing, we'll make sure XMP is

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enabled and we'll launch a game and see if any of that stuttering is gone. It

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should be. I really hope we don't have to go through any more of our steps. Um,

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especially not swapping hardware piece by piece cuz that can can take a lot of

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time. All right, Windows is up to date and our memory is running at 3200 megat

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transfers per second now, which is much faster and our AM4 platform is really

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going to prefer that. So, let's play some games. Let's see if it stutters still. Okay, Tarov is definitely hard to

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run. And I'm still getting but I, you know, actually my 1%s are now mostly

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hovering above 60. I'm at like 90 80 an

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average of 100 something. Um, so I think

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it's definitely improved. We're looking pretty good. Don't get me wrong.

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Performance could definitely be better. Uh, Tarov doesn't always run great, but

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I haven't hitched at all. It's been at least 10 minutes. Um, and on top of

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that, I've even gotten a couple kills. >> Nice shot. >> Thankfully, we didn't have to run

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through our entire list. It was a pretty simple fix. But just in case you have

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to, here's what you'll have to do. An easy but timeconuming trick to figure

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out if you've got a software or a hardware problem is to prep a spare

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drive with a fresh Windows install, some drivers, and a game or two that you want

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to test. Simply swap the drives, boot it up, and if the fresh install behaves the

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same, then you've got an answer. And if it doesn't, that's a different answer

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entirely. Admittedly, this step is a lot easier for a company like ours with a

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ton of spare drives kicking around. But a 256 gig SATA SSD is going to perform

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just fine for a task like this and cost what, $20? And as long as you keep it as

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your test drive, it's going to last damn near forever. Our last two steps are

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really a bunch of substeps. Reseat everything and swap hardware piece by

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piece. The first one can be done by basically anybody, even if it's a pain

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in the ass. I'm looking at you CPU power cables, but you'd be surprised by how

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often the issue is simply a loose connection with your GPU or your memory

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modules, especially with a fresh build or a computer you've moved recently. And

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finally, if you're all out of ideas, start swapping hardware with an LTT

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screwdriver from ltstore.com. I typically sell my old stuff when buying

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something new, but keeping some known good memory modules kicking around or

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even buying something like a GT1030 just to confirm if your issue is with the GPU

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or the motherboard can save you a trip to warranty land. And if you don't have

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the spare parts kicking around, local computer shops often do. And if they're

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nice, they'll let you test your stuff in their store. It's tough to say what

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might be defective, but in our experience, weird random hardware issues

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are almost always because of either a bad power supply or bad memory modules.

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And if all else fails, cry. But we're not crying today because Connor, I fixed

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your computer. >> No way. Well, I'm pretty sure I did. >> I hope so.

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>> I hope so, too. Let's wait and see how the boot up time is. It's not like

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amazingly better. You were already using an SSD, but you know, we changed those

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startup apps and uh whatnot. >> I feel like it's slower than it was

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before. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that.

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>> It's on. >> Yeah, that was faster. I could not tell

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you. >> It was not a lot faster, but it was a little bit faster. I'm going to take

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this as a win. Um, okay. So, your main thing that you did wrong was you didn't

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have XMP enabled. >> So, your memory, even though you bought

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a 3200 mega transfer kit, >> was only running at like default DDR4

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speeds, which is 2133. This should not

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only give you better performance in games like in your 1%s and your

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averages. Um, but it should fix most if

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not all of that stuttering that you were seeing.

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>> So, launch Tarov, I guess. So, we'll see

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how it feels to you. And, uh, what we can also do is, you

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know, you'll take it home tonight. >> Y, >> you game on it for a while. >> Yes, sir.

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>> And then let me know. >> I mean, it already feels better for this map because this map is notoriously bad.

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>> Does it actually? >> Yeah. I mean, it could just be like my

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brain. I'll >> No, no, no. It should It should have like at least a 10% performance boost,

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honestly. Maybe even more like 20% or something. >> Normally, when I load into a game,

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>> it would feel like kind of sluggish already. >> Right at the start, right as everything

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loads in and whatnot. Yeah. >> Right as everything's most competitive

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cuz everyone else is loading in. It's not the time to lag. >> Like genuinely, it feel Yeah, it feels

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better, eh? >> This is odd. >> Like how good it is now.

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>> Yeah. Like my standards for games has been pretty low cuz I just like play at

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like 60 FPS or something. Hell yeah. >> But you know what? It's not going to

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stutter anymore and you're not going to die. And you guys probably aren't

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