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I've actually done it the unthinkable secret shopping

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thought you were safe because you wrote those checks to me

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now to be clear this isn't about finding

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excuses to cut ties with Partners what this is about is ensuring that the

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brands that we work with are operating with integrity and putting the needs of

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our community first unless of course there's something Shady going on in

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which case we are ready and willing to cut ties notice how there aren't any

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anchor products on this table it could happen to you

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to ensure we weren't getting special treatment we sent secret agent Rush on a

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mission to procure a product from each of these companies manufacture what we

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thought was a fair common issue if we didn't encounter one organically and had

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immediately to the support page do not pass go do not collect 200 to get help

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and we evaluated them based on a number of criteria like how difficult was it to

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get in contact with a human were they polite did the issue ultimately get

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resolved Jesus a word of caution our

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results May Nay Will shock you and we

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logged everything with the intention of developing and maintaining a sponsor

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tegerty index want to work with us in the future well you better be ready

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because we are not stopping here we could even secret shop sponsors like

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sale where you can save big on Brands like Sony HP and more be the cool kid in

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class and upgrade your Tech Arsenal at the link down below did we really buy

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something this expensive to secret shop them was that really necessary I don't

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know if it was necessary oh good let's kick things off with LT

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sponsor and long time partner Jesus they

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have gotten into some hot water recently over motherboard warranties and BIOS

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updates but we actually started prepping this video months ago and purchased an

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Rog strix RTX 4080 from the local Best Buy and things went perfectly right out

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of the gate when we didn't even have to fabricate an issue with it you see the

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card's manual specifies that you need only two eight pin PCIe power connectors

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for the Triple Eight pin adapter that's included in the box and the answer to

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this might seem obvious to you or to me but to someone who's building their PC

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for the first time and trying to follow the age-old advice of reading the effing

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manual this could be very confusing but

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for Rush this resulted in a red light on the GPU and no output to his display a

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natural First Step would be to contact the store we bought it from Unfortunately they told us sorry you're

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gonna have to talk to ASUS and that's where things got a little bit

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frustrating we ran into this navigation issue where going to the Canadians site

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we'd get redirected to the American Site which would then redirect us back to the

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Canadian site which would redirect us to the American site now if you're in

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America or somewhere else in the world this step might go smoother for you but

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for us it was absolutely infuriating to

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their credit we did eventually manage to get on the phone with them which you

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can't take for granted these days but only by tracking down the number

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ourselves not by finding it in some intuitive place on their website

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unfortunately once we got on the phone with them things didn't really go any

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smoother how

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sorry I'm a bit confused because the the quick start guide says I can use a six

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pin and an eight pin if those are the only uh cables I have

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either plugged into the power supply I'm wondering how to plug them into the GPU

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it says in the quick start guide that came with the 4080 that I can just plug

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this six pin or an eight pin in and I can't seem to find a place to plug them

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in the the one plug that's there it looks like it's more for a like 16 pin

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but you know I'm kind of concerned about the adapter you know I've read a lot of things about it melting and you know I'd

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rather I'd rather not have to use it if I if I don't have to and then the quick

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start guide says I can just use a six pin and an eight pin but I can't seem to

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find where to plug it in okay need to plug it into the PCIe

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Port yes but I I can't I can't seem to

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find that on the on the GPU oh my God this conversation is extremely circular

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is this 40 minutes of this there's a

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second call is this just a simple documentation problem where they just

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they're just reusing the same quick start guide from some old GPU wait no

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this isn't from an old GPU this is an

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up-to-date quick start guide it says this or this which makes it sound like

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you can do either how long does it take them to figure this out so obviously

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today yes so I have I have two eight pin

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uh PCI cables checked to make sure yeah

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the the DisplayPort cable is properly plugged into the GPU he's definitely

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leveled up his technical ability since the first support call trying to help

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them out a little here

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guys he just wants to plug in a power connector there's a red light over the

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power input on a GPU means it doesn't have the right power it is amazing to me

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that in the year 2023 this is not as simple as hey can you snap a picture of

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your setup for me or have them send me a picture so I can see what they've done it would

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not take me 55 minutes

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to ask for that do I need to connect four eight pin cables to the adapter

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okay so he eventually just gives them the answer now you might think watching

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this listening to me that it is not a

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realistic scenario for someone to get an adapter like this with three eight pins

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to a single 16 pin and think well the

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quick start guide says I can just plug in two of them so that should be fine

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but I've worked in customer support it happens all the time and not helping

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matters is the fact that if you have one of the Quad to single adapters you

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actually can leave one of them off and it will still function so if people see

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that and think oh maybe I just don't need all of them they could easily end

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up confused in summary then it was painful but we did get there so I'm

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giving ASUS a three out of five speaking of three out of fives next up is dbrand

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you may or may not know this but we have a pretty toxic relationship with our

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sponsor dbrand and we may have decided to mess with them a little to see what

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we could get away with so Rush ordered a kill switch case and a Nintendo switch

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screen protector which he promptly smashed and then demanded a replacement

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there is absolutely no way that this

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happened in shipping I will be very curious to see what they say can you

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send a few pictures we're sorry it arrived in that state that is a highly

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unusual thing to happen yeah I should think so we'll be sending you a

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replacement pack no further action is required I was hoping you'd throw in

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something extra for the inconvenience what a best no way they did it they said

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no because they had already shipped the replacement and then he's like pretty

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please and they send him a skin great job dbrand I mean I personally wouldn't

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let a customer get away with quite this level of tomfoolery but uh what can I

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say five out of five next up a brand we've

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partnered with a number of times over the past few years to show off their

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various outdoor and off-grid Power Solutions jackery for the video we

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purchased their Explorer 1000 and good news or bad news I don't know once again

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we didn't have to fabricate a problem this top USB port super fragile and

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there are Reports online that it is extremely easy to accidentally break so

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we decided to put those claims to the test I can see you guys looking at this

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and thinking gee that seems a little unfair you'd think they would have to

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break it with a USB cable not with a screwdriver but the reason we did this

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was because there are numerous Reddit threads complaining about the fragility

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of this particular connector and I guess we were trying to Fast Track the process

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also we tried on the lower USB he couldn't do it I guess what I want to

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know now then is is this actually an issue with the top port or are we just

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being unreasonable I saw how easy it was for him to break it can we do the same

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thing with the bottom I did manage to break it but I had to go in there pretty

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good mmm came loose in a piece flood is there

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anything that can be done oh we had to follow up 12 days later okay

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sorry this got lost we need your address a picture of the issue and the serial

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number okay that seems reasonable and here's a new one they even cover return

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shipping wow that's actually a big deal considering uh

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how heavy these things are however we

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had to follow up two weeks later again but we get a reply the same day and we

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get a tracking number six days later I

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couldn't help noticing that this says that we got a replacement but this is

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still broken we wanted to make sure that it wasn't just a one-off problem so you

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broke the second one we broke the second one which you've just broken further oh

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good yeah you broke it you broke it even more I want to see if I can break us

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something else what about this U green Charger I just want to know if we're being totally unreasonable here because

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it is plastic and we did stick a screwdriver in it

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it does seem to be a little on the fragile side but I don't think it's so

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bad that I would say this is a horrible dangerous product and needs to be taken

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off the market I got to take some points off for them being kind of slow here but

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to their credit replacement pretty much no questions asked and they covered the

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return shipping so I got to give them let's say a three and a half

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you know maybe I'd go even better four and a half if it wasn't for how long the

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communication took now let's get into one of our longest time sponsors

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I fix it an email chain you say good God

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gravy these emails though sorry I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit I

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fix it we love these guys here and up until the launch of our own screwdriver

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which by the way we have a knock to Edition coming soon sign up for a

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notification lttstore.com we use their tools almost exclusively around here

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unfortunately we had a small problem with our order and that's that our gamer

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bundle was uh I'm missing some pieces first up

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confirmation email that's nice three days later sorry to hear you can't hear

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it please send photos of the contents you received as well as the packaging

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for our records and we'll go from there sorry I lost the packaging it's pretty

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typical I throw away packaging pretty much immediately after things arrive but

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it looks like they are absolutely unwilling to engage with you if you

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don't take a picture of your packaging materials that is something hi I think

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there's been a misunderstanding I got rid of the packaging because there's nothing in it I wouldn't have thrown it

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away if it had something inside it and then we got ghosted for two weeks after

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two weeks we get back the same copy pasted email finally we give in and we

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did have the packaging we just wanted to know if they would take care of us send

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them pictures of the packaging and

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immediately they turn it around same day response can we send this to the address

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on file are you also missing the Jimmy no I don't seem to have it

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here's your replacement next day response boom boom and everything

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arrived I don't really know what to make of this has people fraudulently

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requesting replacement parts been a huge issue for them maybe and they just need

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to prove they ever got a box or like this is weird like Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde

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over here in fairness to them it does say on their support page don't recycle

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those packing materials until you've checked them thoroughly maybe it's not

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fraud maybe it's just people accidentally throwing things away and

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they just can't keep sending out Replacements to people who are dum-dums

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and throw away their stuff either way it wasn't a great experience I would still

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give them a four just because they did ultimately get us sorted out but I have

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got to take a star off for basically ghosting us and generally taking too

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long to reply to our messages now for a fun one manscaped these guys were a

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staple for us for a long time and they haven't worked with us recently but no

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hard feelings guys that is as long as

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our experience goes okay here we bought the premium package 4.0 with the

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subscription but uh oh something in

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their formula doesn't gel with our partner sensitive skin and I'm afraid

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we're gonna need a refund and a cancellation first we tried their

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contact form internal server error no

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worries we'll simply reach out via email well that's a good response no back and

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forth just stop using it discard the product you're refunded and your future

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replenishments have been canceled that's an A plus response

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however we did notice a couple of kind

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of Shifty things on their website this kind of time limited advertising that's

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not limited to the next 10 minutes you guys if you're going to offer a discount

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just offer a discount with my order there's nothing wrong with trying to

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convey urgency to a customer but this is fake urgency also I really don't like

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this check box under 30 day money back guarantee that has nothing to do with a

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money back guarantee and everything to do with signing up for your mailing list

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with that said there was no confusing Maze of buttons like if you're trying to

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get out of a gym membership or a Prime subscription that contact form did end

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up working the next day so I don't want to take too many points off for that

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four maybe even four and a half Stars oh

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tested I guess I'll leave these in the bag

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that is one solid USBC charging brick

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thing we ordered this from ugreen it's their digit nest whatever that means

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Cube charging station and we immediately scratched it and then reached out to

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customer service demanding that they do something about our damaged item or at

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least we tried to reports and

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it does nothing okay hold on a second is

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this still broken though good Lord this is slow okay support

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what's the difference between warranty and return in exchange oh okay I guess

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return in exchanges if I actually want to exercise my warranty ooh self-service

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return application okay that's pretty reasonable but how do I contact them

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returns will not be given if there are visible scuffs okay so how do I do

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something then contact our customer support team how is this the problem

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were you guys also not able to figure out how the devil to contact them he

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eventually found a service at ugreen email hold on hold on no no contact us

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the point is we found an email address let's have a look at what they had to

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say oh that's a lot of pictures can you take a picture for us to check the

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package looked sealed I didn't look at it closely and ghosted for two weeks oh

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but they reply same day now there's no way the support rep's name is Hugh green

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hahaha I didn't even see that okay like I said

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it looks sealed I didn't look at it closely do you have an unboxing video

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no I didn't take a video of myself unboxing it why would I think I would

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need to do that really you guys you want a video so that you can go and claim

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insurance with the carrier on like what is this thing even worth this is more

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work than it's worth at this point except for this may I know the Charger's

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function Works Rush could have been a little bit more forthcoming that the

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charger does in fact work they also took a lot of follow-ups wow eight days here

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in your situation we can apply a five dollar refund is that acceptable for you

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I guess that would be fine I don't see a five dollar refund

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eight days later oh oh here it is

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another two weeks later our refund arrives story for the late reply can you

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check you mean sorry I didn't do it until now same day that the refund

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actually went through in the end we got a five dollar discount for an issue that

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pretty clearly didn't happen in shipping I still think it's at best a three and a

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half star experience if I'm gonna dock a star from everyone else based on

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response time I have got a DACA star here I can't fault the quality of the

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product or the price so you green you're still in our okay books just try not to

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spy on everyone then deny it like anchor did so you can keep being a cable and

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charging partner for us I gotta say on the one hand I was kind of hoping for

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something majorly disappointing to happen like that we would get scammed or

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something it's more entertaining but on the other hand I'm pretty pleased to see

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that our sponsors are doing all right overall I mean obviously it could be

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better in some cases Jesus you guys are selling thousands sometimes two thousand

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plus dollar products please do better and Guy everyone

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actually your support portal it needs to be responsive it needs to be easy to

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find but overall everyone's 50 or better

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and we're going to have links to all the stuff we bought today down below now if

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you've made it this far in the video you might be looking for a more serious

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Summary of why exactly it is that we are

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doing all of this it's something that we're working every day to build and by

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developing new I think fairly Innovative processes like our sponsor complaint

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thread on the Forum or this secret shopping program we are going to be able

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to ensure that you guys can always trust us whether it's a fully sponsored video

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or just an integration we don't want to Hawk anything that's garbage or being

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pushed by a garbage company and no one's perfect and we've certainly worked with

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some controversial Brands but I think if we work together you guys can help us

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ensure that we have a solid stable of Partners who work hard to ensure that

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those of you who do choose to do business with them have a good experience there's going to be a lot

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more where this came from but uh Hey as

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long as you're doing a great job over there you have no need to worry secret

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lab you may know them from their sick gaming chairs but did you know secret

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lab makes desks too that's the real secret their Magnus Pro isn't your

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average sit to stand desk because it's packed with unique features hate having

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loose cables dangling around all over the place we'll have the cleanest setup

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around with their patent-pending integrated power supply column and the

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full length built-in Cable Management tray the Magnus Pro is also fully

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adjustable as a sit to stand desk with a Sleek integrated control panel and to

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top it all off pun intended it has a premium full metal table top so check

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out the Magnus Pro and all of secret lab's other offerings at the link down

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below if you guys enjoyed this video maybe go check out the PC secret shopper

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Series where we had special agents Janice and Sarah go undercover in order

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from major PC Building brands Shenanigans definitely ensued there
