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it's going to be awesome this week i hope the two Linus faces brought you
right into this video uh there is a leak
AMD ryzen 7 3800 x geekbench leak also a
rumor all the hard facts this week about
Intel uh going to be slashing prices ahead of the ryzen 3000 launch
uh don't worry Linus is going to be sitting here soon enough he's just
finishing a video and i'm sitting here so luke has a real flesh bag to talk to
yeah and he's going to talk to you about ubuntu dropping 32-bit support Linux
stuff google not making tablets and a bunch of
other cool fun entertaining things uh
and and stay around for the intro roll the intro
i'm just oh
the seat represents our love
collapse oh wait this part uh display yeah
and i don't know how to funny sound this but merch is cool and stuff lit store
yeah let's start yeah i just realized we didn't have someone
hey let's set up the camera but you know it works either way let's
start with uh ubuntu let's leave the juicy rising topics ooh four here you
can scoot over Linux me leave the juicy rising topics for win when Linus is here
ubuntu is dropping 32-bit support it's
all it's all sad and and and dying dreams except for most people are on
64-bit anyways and i would say the majority of modern apps
are running 64-bit not steam no it's not steam
and some other actually fairly mission critical apps for some people but it's
not the end of the world because 18.04 long-term support uh is is gonna be fine
it will it will keep on going so it'll be okay it's future launches that
they're talking about you're going to have to eventually kind of shove off of the 32-bit system which
is going to be a problem we see like when Windows is like okay we're not
going to support Windows xp anymore and we tell you guys like six years in
advance and then entire airports have massive problems i
don't think this is going to be a big kick in the butt oh god no no
um please lioness relieve me
do i get do i take my chair or do i take your chair here let's let's let's do a
whole full swap oh wow there you go
this is awkward it's your chair oh lordy
i have a shirt on
wait i got it no
oh no a triple xl i can't do it all right
that's fine just uh no i had a medium before what happened to it i was
i swear i was holding welcome to the organized show yeah it's on time we're
wearing the right shirts yeah okay so ubuntu is killing future 32-bit
support oh really oh it's about time yeah it's been a while are people mad i
bet people are mad people are probably mad one funny thing that isn't going to
work is steam oh kind of weird and i looked it up and
as far as i can tell there is no official announcement still it's 32-bit isn't it
i guess like it doesn't need more than 3.5
yeah yeah wow so like doesn't really matter
i ever met you and it's funny because i remember back when um
i remember back when Windows xp x64
was like the thing that if you were a sucker for
punishment you were playing around with because you were like
well i got this 64-bit processor i'm
gonna use it um i definitely ran it at one point
actually not any worse than vista 64.
my perspective at least from my experience
and um where was xp 64 was one of the operating
systems that people would complain about that i just never had a problem with i i
remember it i remember noting that steam was 32-bit only being
like is this just part of like them their
whole hate on for microsoft or like what's what's their deal and no i guess
they just didn't feel like it like is that bothered
and i don't as far as i know there's no official word of them
switching but there's going to be a long-term support version of ubuntu
that's going to keep supporting 32-bit for quite a while our streaming future
stuff isn't going to work that's why only 300 people are watching
why is it unlisted i have no idea but i just set it to public so uh cool
hey welcome everyone else who is uh
who was tuning in now that they're actually getting a notification
um sorry i didn't know it was even i guess
yep oh that's def that's most assuredly a thing and while i'm at it i'm going to
check and see if Jake ever uploaded the vod for that video that we did earlier
that's a that's a feature that flow planes probably not going to be getting any time soon unlisted live streams you
have got to be kidding me Jake you you didn't you didn't upload the vod for
that thing we did the ak camera
no by upload i meant upload it
like live well now we're str like no we can't oh
my god we can't launch it now like
needed to go up speaking of launching it now if you're a Floatplane subscriber
we have an app for you now it's on the Android store look it up it's actually really awesome it's missing some
features more features are coming um but as of right now for general stuff it's
actually a really good experience check it out okay
um how are you doing we can i'm always how's your day going i actually had a
pretty rough day today it seemed like it before you even got on the show and
realized that it was unlisted and the other video was not pushed so flow plane
we've got the Floatplane and i'm kidding we're not absolutely yeah
now it cancels your search does it really
that's unreal hey that's kind of not a great experience
hey there it is this app is compatible with
some of your devices hey i wonder which ones
wow just tech reviewer problems
i thought i had a lot that's insane uh is it actually compatible with my casio
fo uh smartwatch it says no oh oh wait oh okay okay okay
they're just all on here okay yeah i was going to be pretty impressed luke
be like jaden wow wow just wow that's really impressive that's pretty that's
pretty good if i can watch flow plane videos on my watch
you really went all the way out there so yeah we tried to shoot the conclusion
for six video editors one CPU today okay and
between the um display like long display part cables
you know it's a problem yeah they just they just don't work yeah um so between
long DisplayPort cables that don't work and um
potentially some kind of networking issue
i'm having a real bad time real bad time with it and so
the editing done right now is basically
a flying spaghetti monster of
usb extension cables and displayport
extension cables and um there's a giant tower in the
middle yeah i will say i walked past it and i was like that's crazy he's gonna
be late the whole thing just looked nuts i was
like this can't be this can't be good and i just got confirmation that i am in
fact not in the office on monday morning
um so
i don't know how that's going to get finished because
i'm going to germany next week um
so yeah yeah that was that was pretty rough
and i'm apparently going camping this weekend
so i have no idea how any of that works so this is this is actually sitting in
the middle of our editing room right now
that's the situation hey but there's there's
there's RGB though yeah and at least everyone on the left side of the frame
is wearing the appropriate footwear yeah to be working with such equipment um
you know what why don't we just do some actual tests some tech news let's talk
about some techniques we did technically start with techniques we talked about ubuntu did you really let's jump yeah
you were here you talked about it oh yeah oh and is that all we've done so far
that's all we've done okay cool we can start from the top uh yeah uh what's up
you guys are not here in the morning yeah yeah i i had just actually made
that discovery myself uh that well not by myself Colton messaged me i'm
apparently going camping so um the conclusion of that video is
basically on you guys to figure out
um we'll have someone host it yes good luck
uh and what is it good night and good luck
is that how it goes yeah i i actually really don't know what
to do right now because i also just haven't done like the hosted
part at the beginning and i should really i should really do that
um you should get so yeah we're
like i can't i can't leave it like that all week but i can't
you should not you should get Jake to deep fake your face onto someone else on
friday we can do that see
no no no he's not talking to you yeah he's not hugging you so sorry what are
we doing what's the plan guys you're having the real behind-the-scenes
experience ed you might as well come on here this yeah this is how we make
videos so okay can we not just disconnect everything we can leave all
the cables we can tuck them away leave the cables tucked away location and move
it take the station and move it and then what bring it back
okay but that but that doesn't help Jake like diagnose it
how many videos are you expecting from me next week Jake's working on the weekend no he's
not yeah how many how many videos do you need next week
not that many how many is not that many because sometimes you say not that many and then you're like eight all right i'm
playing that let's look let's see all right all right these conversations are
so much more comfortable when you're not actually like responsible for any other three
i got three for next week you only had us down for three but did that assume
that we actually hit seven this week we did something did we hit seven we hit
seven i keep telling him we hit seven oh so i didn't even need to do that
yeah i don't think so okay um
okay so then as long as i come in on friday and we shoot the conclusion then
it's all good yep um writers will post why don't you guys just leave it in
there and then Jake can like fix it and then fix it when we can
yeah so when people are like on lunch he can go in
use their workstation tool around with it
okay sure okay so Jake one other thing is maybe try the other fiber optic cable
the 25 footer maybe see if that one has compatible
transceivers if that actually is the problem
you told me there was a 25-footer oh was that the copper one
oh okay you should tape down that copper cable so it doesn't get closed in the
door again welcome to WAN Show ladies and gentlemen
that was awesome oh man that was great i yeah i'm having i'm having a rough day
but you know what not as rough a day as Intel so our big story today is of
course from guru3d.com there are leaked benchmarks
of the ryzen 7 3800 x in geekbench it
apparently performs roughly similarly to a core i9 90 900k and that
is a super terrible situation
for our friends over at Intel courtesy of
our also friends over at AMD
so not only is this bad because the
3800x is going to be cheaper than a 9900k it's actually amazing
it's just bad for Intel yeah bad for Intel good for
everything else is there anyone else this is bad for Intel
shareholders okay but i would bundle them in Intel fanboys
whatever they don't count they're people okay fanboys are people i
disagree they are not people
okay so anyway so this is bad news for Intel
because not only is the 3800x cheaper than a 9900k
it isn't even the top of AMD's lineup
let that sink in for a minute that's pretty dirty so the 3800x has a base
clock of 3.8 and boost of up to 4.5 uh from the look of things memory was not
configured correctly at only 21.33 megahertz and the test platform had a
3800x with an x470 board
instead of an x570 board so it wasn't even on the optimal chipset for this CPU
now that's not to say that we expect a chipset change to make
an enormous difference to performance it's just that the x570 chipset does
have support for pci express gen4 so it will have performance advantages if you
have components that leverage that and the word on the street is that the x570
boards that are coming out have in terms of ASUS rog boards anyway much better
optimized memory traces and they said there were some other secret sauce they wouldn't
tell me because they didn't want people to copy it which could result in higher memory speeds which would have a
performance impact so we're not saying that
it's a bad situation where now we're just saying that if they were running on
like an rog board that's an x570 it could be quite a bit faster
cool so
um yeah one thing is that in single threaded as
you might expect 9900k is still a little bit faster we're talking one percent
okay yeah that's with faster memory okay there was apparently a situation where
it was like 14 percent better on a single thread um on a singular thread uh but that was
with faster memory that was with faster memory yeah
oh boy so in response
Intel's possibly gonna slash some prices this is a rumor the previous one was a
leak we're dealing with a lot of like kind of you know
not the the absolutely most reliable information here but they all seem kind
of realistic so i mean if i was Intel
that would pretty much be what i was doing i think their shortages are mostly
resolved at this point so yeah they're a lot better now than they
were like okay yeah before last year would you say resolve no resolved was
the wrong word it was always absolutely yeah um
less bad less bad let's go with less bad yeah um i mean
if there wasn't competition i don't think they're at the point where they
would be cutting pricing but to me this is really less of an
indication that Intel is uh you know that their supply is
better and more of an indication that they think in order to sell the supply
that they have that's the pricing that they think they
need to be at so the thing about chip manufacturing is
you don't like it's not like hand making um you know
designer wallets on etsy or something where
you you know if you get an order for 10 you can be like oh well i'll just make
10 this week and then if you get an order for one you can be like that's
chill i'll go do something else
it's not like that ramping production up and down
is an enormous undertaking so it's actually
far better i mean that's where you end up with like
um you know flash or memory manufacturers selling dram and selling
nand flash at a loss because you are better off just slashing your prices
like it's a commodity and ignoring your costs then you are
like turning off a fab like you lose less if i if that makes
sense losing 10 making stuff and then selling it at a 10 loss is less harmful
than just shutting down the fab which is sort of crazy um so Intel is
not going to adjust their production in all likelihood i don't have confirmation
on that they're just going to slash their pricing so that they can keep moving the same volume because that
keeps the machine operating smoother
um sidebar thing i would love to see a skit
with hips or lioness making etsy products oh man i only got one order for a wallet
that's chill i'll just like i'll do something else
you know it's fine i'll design a new etsy product go make some videos
i'll go i'll make some videos my etsy store would be full of like the
stupidest stuff
oh man i mean you guys have seen me try and do arts and crafts tech showdown was
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it's good we actually have some uh we actually
have some new merge pictures oh okay
i'm uh i i was the uh photographer for
them so i'm just gonna go ahead i'm gonna pull this up and share with you
this is that okay so this is a teaser for an upcoming video
i don't want to say too much because i don't know what's public yeah very little is public actually this is going
to be a pretty fantastic video uh so i'm just going to pull this up so
basically brandon gets pretty triggered
every time someone messages him on twitter and is like
i want to be a great photographer what camera should i buy
and he's like all right
so it's hard to give you the right answer when you're asking the wrong question
because becoming a photographer is
about developing a style um
learning the fundamentals you know understanding the correct way to take a
photo so that you can push the boundaries and experiment with the art
form note that i didn't say anything about
your camera okay another way to trigger brandon
show him one of those keynotes for a cell phone launch where they say
take dslr like photos
with your phone yeah he'll be like
no that's just actually not how that works
so on the one hand brandon gets triggered if you ask him which camera to
buy to make you a better photographer but on the other hand he gets triggered
if you tell him that a phone is just as good as a real camera
so this is great brandon actually came up
with the idea and we got in a camera that he was really excited to play
around with 51 megapixels is it
51.4 megapixels so this is the fujifilm
gfx 50r
so crazy camera like crazy camera to the
point where i'm sure people out there would think
wow with a camera like that in my hands
i could be a photographer no problem um
and so what what he came up with was we
weren't really sure how to like make a video about a product like that because
it's a medium format camera which is really designed for a certain
type of work like it's it's a tool designed for a certain type of job you'd
say high fashion photography you know
anything that you were to photograph that you would expect to print the size
of you know the side of a building you would capture with a camera like that
like the level of detail that it can capture is incredible and i kind of forget where i'm going
with this very rambly story but long story short brandon and i were talking
and he kind of pitches me this crazy idea and he goes how about this
we do a photography challenge
but we take an inexperienced photographer and i am at best an
inexperienced photographer i think that's generous we take an inexperienced
photographer we ARM them with the gfx 50r
and then we put them up against an experienced photographer with a
smartphone and we resolve once and for all
does a smartphone hold up against a real
camera and once and for all does an amazing
camera turn you into a photographer if you're just some random scrub i love
part of this concept because you're basically making him fight against himself
because if he does too good of a job
so brandon with a pixel 3
versus me with a fujifilm gfx 50r
um now i'm not going to share a ton of this with you but i just want to show
you guys one of my photos
some of them are just far too spoilery
but it's like i feel intensely out of focus
i feel like this needs to be on the store at some point okay
i mean it's wonderful oh it's not it was just loading yeah yeah oh
okay i mean the highlights are a little
a little blown out on that one yeah
part of his face is like actually just pure white yep yeah i mean it is Colton
it's probably pretty close so in fairness to me like you shine a light at Colton the guy
is pretty white does he have uh bottoms on at all no no no he doesn't have um
pants on my understanding is that he was wearing underwear
okay but it's possible he wasn't i have no way of uh verifying that he was in
fact wearing underwear okay um
anyway guys look forward to this video if nothing else it's gonna be a ton of
fun if nothing else seeing Colton with no pants on 10 out of 10. and there's
there's there's far what
there's there's far worse oh no i'm
sorry guys i really can't show this to you guys because it's going to be such a
moment in the video but
make sure you don't miss the photography challenge
um i'm actually very proud of this photo oh
my god
that's amazing you guys need to put that on a wall
so uh okay okay all right just because it's so
awkward it's it's pretty it's pretty out
he's seen all of it he's seen all of it so guys
i mean should i you know what i will give you i will give you one small
spoiler it's really close
like this does not end up being a blowout so
no matter what you think no matter what
preconceived notions you come into this video with
you're right
all right um oh people are so mad in chat
i'm so me not showing them though any of those pictures
yeah guys it's like actually come on i
really can't i really can't yeah i really can't show you i did show you
it's like if we showed the benchmarks for every benchmarking video on wine show before the video came out yeah it
is actually pretty much exactly like that it's a problem yeah
okay uh what else we got for you some crazy stuff google
done making tablets that's not crazy it's crazy that they
ever thought three people cried and no one else cared
it does suck because competition reasons
yeah i saw so i stole that from marquez because he made a tweet about that it's
very valid outside of that i don't care were they competition but who else was
but were they competition not really but it would have been nice if they stayed
in it and like actually literally no one was competition the
ipad stands alone as the tablet they and
it has been for a long time like the thing is i'm an Android i'm even an
Android user like you'll you'll prime my Android phone
from my cold dead fingers but Android is so poorly optimized as a tablet
experience what annoys me too is Android in tablet mode looks beautiful and sucks
i don't know it's annoying anyways yeah that's basically all we have to say
about that um really we can't give any
details google is no longer planning to make any tablet hardware going forward
and we'll put all resources behind laptops in the future chrome os chrome
os is the future google had two smaller tablets in the works both have been
canceled pixel slate was google's first
chrome os tablet but it worked best when docked with a keyboard and trackpad also
known as a laptop yeah
so yeah they're not doing the tablets anymore but chrome os is not cancelled
okay i mean you know the thing about chrome os is like i make a face whenever
we talk about chrome os because it's simply not suitable for me but there's a lot of
people that chrome os could make sense for the
only issue right now is that it has to
be cheap at the same price i'll take Windows i'll
take macOS at the same price
but as long as chrome os keeps showing up on super cheap devices then i guess
but as microsoft continues to march toward Windows as a service and making
all their money off of like xbox subscriptions that people are running on
Windows when i you know what i'm gonna do it i'm
gonna call it within the next
how many years am i gonna give myself here ah do i go aggressive or do i do i go
conservative i would considering the quality of some of the
call outs that have been made on lan show i'm going to dude you're going to do it
i'm going to go aggressive i was going to say go kind of middle line three
years Windows is free three years yeah
okay i kind of knew where you were going and i was kind of thinking five but i was
gonna say five yeah you know what no i'm going aggressive
i'll tell you what tell you what here's how i hedge my bets
i predict eyeline of sebastian on this the 21st
day of june 2019
predict that Windows will be free to install will it will be
announced that when that a free version of Windows
is at least coming by three years from today
there it will at least be announced even if it's not quite available i don't want
to lose on a technicality like it's coming in the fall or something stupid
like that that's it
and the reason i call the reason i call three years is that we're going to be a
couple years into the new generation of xboxes
i think that's going to be one of the ways that microsoft is going to
monetize Windows without actually charging for
licenses and once Windows is free
i think google has a problem for chrome os
yeah why why do i use chrome os at that point
okay maybe it's power efficient but Windows for ARM also exists now and there are
devices that you can buy now if you're determined enough and
you're crazy enough um
so i mean yeah i guess there's the app store like if you're running on ARM the
Android play store is probably quite competitive
hard to say yeah
when's our Windows store Floatplane app coming he's got it open now i'm teasing
i am going to grill you on stream though
um i am going to i am going to grill you right now
when is Floatplane launching
define launching more creators more creatives more creators so
we have out of alpha into beta beta we're calling it beta we're calling
it beta so when we bring on more creators we're just calling that beta because we don't really have like a
we're calling that data okay yeah um so
ltx
is kind of the goal we had a meeting about it today the full
plane crew had a meeting about it today i asked everybody we've got a deadline
that is technically before ltx but we have to finish before then so we can
actually get creators on i'm not going to say when that is
and i was like does anyone for any discernible reason think they can't be
done in time and it was just pure silence okay and right before then
one of the members of the team said their part would be done by this coming
friday conservatively which is notably ahead of the
deadline okay there are some problems
like one of them i'm not gonna name the company right now
but who i'm saving that email you saw is it the c word is
now 32 emails long
and we still don't have a solution because they just won't do it
so far no the first email went out really really early last friday it's
technically been over seven days worth of 24-hour periods
not really because it's not saturday yet but technically because it was sent so
early on friday it's been over seven days
and it is for any tier we're on a high tier i'm not
going to say because it would give it away too easily but on any tier it's supposed to take roughly three days to
do so it's been over seven days so far and it's three working days so if they
don't do it today which i still don't have an email and it's just about 608
p.m specifically probably gone probably gone for the day they're probably not
going to do it on the weekend so it's probably not going to be done until wednesday which is almost two weeks from
when we first asked for it
and i am upseti spaghetti and we need that for
the launch yeah of beta yeah okay
so everything else is on track and we are currently being blocked by an
external company we're being c-blocked yes
uh in other news simone gertz built her
own tesla truck yeah super cool so the
source here model 3 is obviously her channel yeah but i'm not going to show
you much of it because you should go watch it go give reviews there that's
all you get to see yes go watch it yeah go watch it later and there's this which
is like the commercial for it which is really cool and kind of fun and stuff
but then she also has a video about like she goes and buys the car and then she
drives around for a little bit and then they they modify it and she pulls in a
bunch of friends and it's it's really cool um so
this yeah the team essentially i mean okay to be clear like they didn't
scratch build a tesla truck they basically hacked the back off of a model
3 uh getting rid of the back passenger seats to make room for a diy truck bed
so like and a uh full sheet of wood
pallet rack thing at the top not pallet uh i don't remember what to call it
an 80 by whatever sheet of plywood an eight by four eight by four
is that right well that's what a standard sheet of plywood is okay sure that
maybe i'm thinking inches or some i don't know either way that thing fits on
the rails on top of the truck neat properly because it was like one inch
away from fitting in the bed but they couldn't do it so
mounted up top now it's really cool
my back hurts i'm fine though so does mine but i'm sure for a couple of minutes tonight yes
i got Yvonne into it i saw oh did you no okay yeah on twitter no she's like she
woke up the next day she was like i was like dreaming about settlement layouts it's
like so addictive i've been i've been playing cross code
oh yeah i haven't played it on stream for probably like two two and a half hours i
don't know if i'm going to keep streaming it it's not a very no in
because you really actually need to focus yeah especially when you're doing
the puzzles in the dungeons like they're not the way they introduce game mechanics is
not perfect they introduce a new mechanic by
basically plunking you in a room where that's the one thing that you need to
like learn but that's been i'm not that far obviously it's a really
long game and i was taking my time with certain things like
i noticed in like the first area there's some jumping puzzle things to find
special loot things and i'm like well i'm getting these which is also not that
entertaining for the stream but i was like i don't care because i'm having fun
and then i found this one thing that's like you need a key and you should backtrack to find it i'm like well i'm
finding that key and i have no idea where it is you just need to like play
the game yeah and then you can go back like in
15 or 15 to 20 hours okay yeah all right no okay also if you try
to get every uh every item you will actually just snap
your controller in half in frustration so i'm sure i'm super easy mode right
now so far i've gotten all of them except for the one that i need the key for
but i'm again i'm in literally the starting area so
yeah that's really hard i'm sure have you done all the quests in the uh the
starting harbor i've done all but one
um have you done the one where there's like uh you define this thing a smuggler
oh no no i haven't done all the questions starting harbor i did that one's a real
piss off good to know
but yeah it's fun i like it a lot actually it feels
probably exactly how it should feel yep um
i died once but i died because i was an idiot and when i died i was like yep i'm an
idiot you'll die more okay no i'm sure um
i like there was a corner and i'm used to modern games where if you did like a
dodge spin and you hit a corner yeah just like move you around it yeah this
one's like nah no so i spun into it all three times and
then was like oh and now you can't move i guess i'm dead
uh but yeah though it was really fun um and i'm down for that one more the piece
of actual news iOS 13 will remind you to cancel your subscription when you delete
an app if it is managed through the uh
iOS store thing that's pretty sick it is
yeah cause like it is so easy
like i don't i don't look that closely at my credit card bill for anything that
doesn't stand out yeah like something
like it's like a couple bucks two bucks you're not gonna think about it i and
and it's like a weird company like i might think
oh i just who knows right like there's there's a
ton of things that you just use a credit card for um
and you know it might like i travel a lot so maybe it was a i don't know maybe
it was a tip at a restaurant like i don't know if it's like three or four
like you never know but it's a pack of gum but it's it's it's not like you know
50 bucks and i'm like whoa what is that so it's
so easy for these little tiny things to kind of
get overlooked for months at a time and meanwhile the app maker is just
collecting that recurring revenue so it's really cool that apple has taken it
upon themselves to remind users to cancel their subscriptions especially
because i really like this it's a good move you might remember to cancel your
subscription if you see the little icon there all the time and like you might
not want to bother because it's like annoying but then eventually if you're
going to go uninstall the app you might jump into it cancel your stuff but if
you uninstall the app without thinking about it you're very unlikely to look into
cancelling yourself in the future play store apparently does it already according to uh that's cool yugi satan i
actually didn't know about that i actually subscribed to very many never
subscribed through an app me neither i don't yeah i'm just trying to think if
there's anything that i have in app
purchased everything that i was subscribed to personally is through a browser
by the way someone uh i'm gonna respond to your review but someone reviewed
during the WAN Show the app and said it would be great if there's notifications
there are notifications we just don't have a uh
like account control dashboard thing so if you i know it's coming don't worry
about it there's some other stuff coming first but if you go on the website and
turn on notifications you will get them in the app
through the app a really crazy idea oh boy so we we missed our upload window
spot for that um reassembling the red 8k
camera video okay i think i'm gonna hey ed
yeah we missed our upload slot for the red 8k camera reassembly video
what do you think of having one of the editors like
instead of just uploading it as a stream archive why don't we cut it and like
make it better for like uh
for later right yeah
yeah do you think there's any value to that i was actually reading the comments and
some people did ask for that so people are worthwhile yeah why don't we do a
tldr version and then we can just leave the full stream unlisted throw it in the
video description if people want to see the whole thing that sounds sweet
i would want that as a viewer yeah and that saves us um
saves us a video yeah you just generated a whole video
it's double dipping a little i think but i i i'm you know what
i'm letting it i'm letting it slide it's like a real life
exploit okay um
what's the name of the game luke enjoyed oh he was he's playing crosstalk yeah i
i played it uh i played it through over the last like few months really really
enjoyed it it's gonna take me a long time because i'm a little completionisty
about things ah don't i know trust me just don't i can let go of it eventually
but when i first start a game i'm usually kind of that way don't just let
it go now okay it's like some of them are really hard like so the
it has this jumping puzzle mechanic where it's which is kind of hard and i
think would be easier on a controller um maybe yeah because doing the angled
jumps is kind of hard but the hard part sometimes is just
finding where to get to it and a lot of the time like you'll go
seven or eight screens over so it's like it's a 2d sprite based rpg so it has
like screens for the for the map that you
kind of move over um so you'll go eight or nine screens
over and you'll find the point where you can get up on the ledge and then you have to like make your way all the way
back there and it
and i'll i i will criticize this
particular aspect of the game most of the time what you find is crap that you
don't need yeah it's like so the little loot box things
i've opened is like oh okay it's like some items that you could just thrash
some hedgehags and then just go buy
or just not buy because honestly i
barely used items other than like sandwiches for health recovery at all
there were a couple bosses where i was like okay i need a dps boost right now
because this sucks but that was it yeah
um we're gonna say yeah the one thing that
i don't like to be honest and it's gonna take me a little while to get used to is
the like two and a half d nature of the game or sometimes like i can't really
tell if another platform is higher or lower than mine it takes in some
scenarios you can you do get the hang of it and i'm assuming i will eventually
get the hang of it and one thing that i did learn was if i just shoot it
depending on seeing where the projectile hits can sometimes tell me yep um and
like there's but that that has been a little frustrating so far
there's been some jumps where i'm like yeah i can make this jump and then i jump and i just hit the wall and fall
and i'm like oh it was too high
okay did we talk about ltx um
no do i have uh you know oh we should do if
there's a blog post we should definitely uh go through it i wonder did they put the
no no it's not there wait where's uh the map i saw Colton a minute ago yeah cause
we finalized the floor plan Colton hey Colton are you around
oh he's gone that's right it's worth a shot
the map was cool it was here last week
did you see us talk about it last week you were on the show dude ah yes we did
you and i talked about it did we did we show it we showed it oh we showed it
yeah okay we couldn't zoom in far enough to like show what each booth name was
but people were able to see the layout people could see where the byc section
was you can see where the main stage was all that fun stuff
we did so many like crazy videos in the
last little bit the edit is almost done for the slo-mo
does to 40 hertz matter okay that's cool um we can probably talk about it a
little bit actually because there's like there's so much to this video that i
feel like i'm not really spoiling anything by showing you guys some stuff
from it hey ed ed are you around yes yeah um what's the
file format for the um the images for the 240hz monitor video
are they just pngs like is it something i can open here
and are they just in l-roll or no i don't have photoshop on this thing all
right uh well the images are pngs the
things with graphics are psds
uh oh okay cool so if i fire this up is this the hitbox ones or
the hit marker ones i think people have figured out that if they review the app
right now i get a notification i think these are just uh
my phone's blowing up oh are these the screenshots of like
the shot though on the video yeah
so this is every shot i took cool
okay neat and is this how many frames in we were from first uh from first pixel
can't guarantee that okay so let's talk about let's talk about this a bit this
is really cool can you save the thing uh save what thing
is no it's okay i think it's all right okay
so this is cool so um what we're looking through right now is a gallery of
ed freeze framing so we're shooting at a thousand frames per second on a phantom
camera and ed is freeze framing and cap
is capturing the frame where i pull the trigger
okay so this is where i take my shot remember guys yeah obviously i'm pretty
far off the mark here um
like i yeah i missed but no no i'm saying how how you could tell when you
pulled the trigger oh no that's not how you can tell okay yeah it's fine it's
just really easy to tell because it's at a thousand frames per second and every
frame is like crystal clear it's so sharp it looks like a still image csgo
when usually they can't hear you you have to come over here i want to talk to
you guys but in cs go when you shoot um
when you're scoped in it actually freezes
for like two or three frames so it's like move move move and it stops oh okay
then the recall happens yeah that's how i can tell that's how you
so basically what we're looking at is at 60 hertz versus 240 hertz where i took
my shot so this guy right here jumps out from around this corner or
runs out from around this corner now he's holding a knife but he's actually
not running at full knife speed it's about 80 percent um
so here's here's my first shot
that one i got him so this is probably the next run now
yeah this is at 558 milliseconds ish
and then 858 milliseconds so it took me about a third of a second to take my
second shot okay yeah this is a new run so this is
yeah run two shot run two shot one i missed run two shot
two i think that was actually a miss really i don't yeah i don't think i got
him on that one um no wait that looks like it was probably
a hit remember too that there's issues with hit detection in the game so we are
capturing not necessarily
yeah hitbox location we're capturing how well our gamer
managed to click on the target so if the if the
hitbox is off and it registers as a miss we're not penalizing our gamer for that
okay because that doesn't tell us anything valuable about how well people
can aim at 60 versus 240 there's more game knowledge okay so here's run three
shot one uh that that was a miss by the way
it looks like it's just over his uh let me just there's a touch screen oh
my goodness yeah so that's pretty close
um and then this is my second shot
that ended up yeah being a hit i donation okay so that's all at 60 hertz
so now we're at 240 are you guys supposed to be trying to pull head shots
because you're you're mostly okay yeah yeah i'm trying i well i don't know if
ed did you try for a headshot every time uh i didn't consciously try not
consciously okay actually so i missed
i think all my 600 shots yeah well the
results are going to be really interesting because wow
the big no no it's fine it's fine because this honestly this video is
fascinating regardless of how much i try to spoil uh because one of the one of
the biggest takeaways was how differently
everyone aimed so we'd love to have a much bigger
sample size because check this out oh wait are we frozen we're back so check this out you guys
that was weird obs froze yeah so just so you guys know that was
obs don't blame Floatplane please you guys should get i know like um just a
different computer oh yeah i'm talking about that though get get like logitech
to work with you guys and bring in the c9 team
yeah we'd love to be sick we'd love to do it again with pro gamers
that's fine they're still pro gamers they're still on a completely different level from us all right so anyway let's
let's look at this so my first so my first 240 hertz shot you can see i
it actually took me almost a second
what's funny is my first one was really fast at 60 hertz
i mean i took my second shot second one no this is round one no this is run one
shot one uh so that's like similar so i'm not even going any faster also i
think uh here we go not even going any faster
um but what's really interesting
is these are all headshots one two three
those were all hits so the way that i line up my shots i'm
actually so remember when we played the uh pub g and i was playing for the first
time we got chicken dinner on our first game i think we got two chicken dinners
that night didn't we we uh yes and we only played three games i
think four four games yeah okay um so there's only one gap between the wins so
i was i was being really hard on myself because
i like didn't know what ammo went in any of the guns
i don't know the maps i don't know any of the mechanics of the game like i felt
like a complete idiot but it didn't really matter you were
telling me i was helpful and i was like i don't feel that helpful but then what
the one thing that i was doing was i was dealing damage from far away
and when i was watching the way that i aim
at a thousand frames per second it makes so much sense
so i'm a good shot but not in close quarters i aim like a sniper no matter
what i'm doing so what i'll try to do is i will try i
will watch my target i will watch for an opportunity because
i have this mindset in the back of my mind even when i'm not thinking about it
that every time i pull the trigger i'm giving them an opportunity to find me
so i tend not to pull the trigger any more than i have to compared to ed
who he's just like there it is first there's a flick he'll try to just
go for the flick shot flick shot kill then he's like tracking it
bang bang bang bang bang he's just pulling the trigger as often as he can and you're doing like two per run
whereas i got no more than two shots out per run i think three was my max wasn't
it i think like barely
did i do four and that but one was into the wall where he went out so i was like
i'm like go
go so
my accuracy or precision
accuracy my accuracy was actually no
different at 60 versus 240 hertz
but my kill times were actually lower so
this is only 651 milliseconds
this one's 905 this one's here so my average kill time was
actually lower and my kill consistency was higher
um at higher frame rates at a higher frame rate refresh rate but if you look at my
actual spread
yeah it's like pretty freaking consistent pretty consistent yeah
because in those games in pubg i remember relatively early on we figured
just give you a sniper and you can spot people and then we started realizing that give you a sniper and then they're
all at half hp when we fight them and we're like well that's pretty neat
that's kind of nice this is cool this is ed at 60 hertz
so that's his first shot way off way off terrible okay so he managed to hit him
here i think no he missed never mind so that's a near miss
but you got to scroll down we can't see the cross that's the cross
isn't it no oh what way down here sorry oh no that's a body shot body shot but
we're going for the head so that's a miss uh sorry ed another thing that's a
miss that's a miss we were running at 2.4
sensitivity because Linus thought that the 1.4 was too slow
okay so we were running at more like my preferred most sensitive why don't you
guys just have different because we wanted that we wanted the
only variable to be refresh rate and gamer
so but okay all right and we can sort of hear you but if he had practice runs we
had practice runs okay it's still it's a bit it's a bit ed
agreed with the methodology
you agreed to it yeah so now the ship has sailed all right so anyway
so if you look through here whoops oh
that was weird oh yeah that was weird so these are all 60 hertz runs
and you can see he's like kind of all over the place
compared to my shots but watch this this is his 240hz results
oh my god so the way
the way this is all on the head the way that ed ames
when we watch his movements is so different from the way that i aim
that the way that 240 hertz benefits him ends up being completely different from
the way it benefits me because i am going to watch for my target to
move in a consistent manner i'm going to track them and pull the trigger when i'm
ready so it took me longer at 60 hertz to do that yeah so you're going to be
able to start those processes a little bit faster and it makes it easier for
because the animation is smoother it makes it easier for me to track it and
ed because he's trying to flick across it he's actually got two moving things
that he's watching his he's got his crosshair and he's got the target he's
trying to kind of like line them up the more data you can get into his brain
the better the chance that he's gonna make that make that shot
and when he doesn't have it he's like
what year is it all over the place
and then gav gav from slo-mo guys he was
fascinating too but i'm not going to spoil any of that right now but it is an
utterly riveting video really uh it was a lot of
fun you guys should maybe not this year because we're like legit running out of time yeah but it'd be really cool if you
guys did like an aiming workshop at ltx an aiming workshop
so you like do this with people at ltx and like show them how they cool
i don't think we could get it in time no this doesn't sound like a 2019 thing yeah this sounds like something where
we'd have to really give some thought to the layout of the booth like we'd have to have like a few stations and a few
phantoms and like operators who are trained on how to do
it and like you'd have to kind of come back in an hour
or something and do your yeah so we could actually do
analysis of your aiming style this is another where like i don't know
necessarily who but it would be cool if you worked with a like a pro team
and have the protein breakdown people's
hell yeah that would be really cool best aimer best FPS player of all time imo
um because ed's not on the mic yeah yeah
all right we should probably do some super chats and i think that's pretty much it for the show today guys
um other side guy says your thoughts on
google stadia and other streaming services silently killing off mod
development and mod installation due to no obvious file access meaning mods that
can meaning mods can't be made or used
um yeah you know what it's just one of the disadvantages of moving
gaming into the cloud so disadvantage number one is of course latency that's
the most obvious one disadvantage number two
is uh oh yeah right that you are relying
not just on the game service but also the streaming service in order to
continue to have access to your games in some situations and we're already
running into that a lot like there's a ton of games out there that uh you know
when it first started happening i think people didn't think it was a big deal this transition from dedicated servers
that are self-hosted by gamers to community servers that are hosted
instead by the game developer when it first started happening it
didn't seem like a big deal because every game was still playable but as
those ones with developer hosted servers have started to
disappear there's
like entire there's huge gaps in the history of gaming that simply cannot be
experienced anymore um and there's some teams that have worked really hard to fill those gaps
but it's not going to be possible with everything that's right um due to due to
various reasons and the stuff that it is possible
you're going to have to have a team of people or at least one really dedicated
person who are dedicated enough to work through all of that stuff to force it to
actually function or a developer slash publisher that is willing to allow it
like which has happened like supreme commander um
so yeah that's that's yet another problem and then problem number three is
yeah yeah modding i think it's uh it's going to be
okay it's going to be a problem but i also
think it's not going to be as big a problem as those other things are
because quite frankly the type of people who are willing to settle for a
stadia-like experience um with respect to latency and with
respect to not owning the software that they buy um we're unlikely to start
digging around in config files and
downloading texture packs now with that said modding is a lot
simpler these days than it used to be thanks to innovations like the steam
workshop but i just don't see it being as big of
an issue compared to those other two just because i think it's kind of a
different customer and we're gonna have a really long overlap between cloud
gaming and local gaming just because game developers want the largest
possible install base for their software um so yeah i think it's going to be a
big problem i just i don't think it's a problem yet and i don't have a solution
yeah uh other side guy where is the tech yes
loving for our boy brian from tech yeah city um ltx invite so
part of the problem with inviting everyone is that
flights and accommodations are really expensive and part of the problem with
including people from way way overseas is that those flights are particularly
expensive um so
there was no real like there's no real discrimination um
people who reached out to us early on got budget and people who didn't uh
didn't in some cases like i will say hardware connects has
made a huge effort to be there they were really late getting back to us but they
ended up agreeing to split the cost with us so that they could be there
so that you know allowed us to work around our budgetary constraints we did
have to stretch a little bit for them but they kicked in so that that's how
they're able to be there like we've we've worked with people to make it as
easy as possible to have as many creators there as possible but we can't
have everyone also i did meet with brian at computex oh
that's cool yeah
ah jesus did not
use super chats to support free geek question mark um no i think we we called
out people to uh to support free geek directly last week that was sort of the
strat um simon love the lanchow and Floatplane
for iOS it's coming yeah it's actually it's been developed
in parallel with the Android app it's just taking longer to get app store
there's some there's a massive amount more hurdles you have to
jump to get on app store not this time says do you recommend Linux
uh it depends what you're doing yeah but yeah but you're definitely no editor
probably not if you're like going to browse the internet
why not oh yeah speaking of os as i take over
chrome os Linux yeah if i have to learn something
anyway
dane says last week my five dollar chat
was not read i said take this five dollars and throw
it on the street just toss it there and make that ten dollars now thanks
okay specifically you luke apparently oh um yeah
or you could just buy food heck yeah instead of throwing it on the
street yeah especially because i wasn't gonna pass that super chat through to you anyway yeah not really how it works
yeah um horton says had to use a vpn to give you
money from croatia ps please Floatplane for Android tv app oh it's there's
there's so much one of the things about making like a modern video playing app
uh or website or whatever is that a lot of those platforms or apps or whatever
have like 10 trillion features so we're
working on it there is actually a lot of features in the app right now there's
just also quite a
massive pile more to go so there's there's there's features coming uh right
now i believe the main thing that's being worked on is casting
so that's coming that'll be cool already partially works and there's more
stuff coming down the pipeline including dark mode and all this other kind of stuff that people are asking for we are
listening it is coming but you gotta give us you gotta give us some time man
uh scratter says june 21st 2019 Windows will be free to install as per line is
three years from now there it is boom um midland productions good evening you
guys i was wondering your thoughts on something would you say SATA ssds are
standard for computer builds now or have NVMe SSD surpassed them already it
depends on mobile NVMe is everywhere
but i would still say that SATA is good enough for the vast majority of people
and a lot of the time you'll see m.2 is in laptops and they're still SATA so
it's hard for me to say without like really digging down into people's product stacks
um yeah like if you're at best buy or whatever buying a desktop i would be
surprised if it's got an NVMe drive in it if it's a laptop anything
sort of premium like mainstream premium i'd say is going
to be NVMe in most cases
um frankie g says is AMD doing big enough
things with their cpus to get Linus to use one in his own rig instead of an
Intel chip you know what they've got an opportunity but it's
going to be a little bit tricky because my personal rig is actually in a
separate room and i use Thunderbolt to a dock to carry my display and all my
peripheral signals um over a single thin cable and right now Thunderbolt is not
supported on AMD now as usb4 which is Thunderbolt
starts to be picked up by AMD motherboards
hey now we're talking but as it is um
it's not officially supported i do believe wendell from level one text got
it working on some weird MSI or Gigabyte i want to say yeah and i believe there's
a couple different boards that support it now so possibly
possibly because i actually undid my last uh CPU upgrade so i'm back on a
5960x so i am still
primed and ready for a CPU upgrade and i am waiting
to see how it goes minus looks so small next to luke thanks the gamer cave adam
you're the best lions and luke love your channels learning a lot never get rid of dennis too didn't intend to
all right i've only got time for a couple more here so ilia says why wasn't
there a notification i'm 45 minutes late sorry dog um i blame luke yeah
um would it be possible for me to be a beta tester for Floatplane as a streamer
so we're not really streamer focused at
least not right now yet and it will be a while
oh marshall says how does luke feel
about nebula
so you weren't here when we discussed nebula no
um it's it's interesting i i think to a
certain degree more of these types of things in our space is going to
normalize this for users and creators so that's good um
i wouldn't have set it up the way they did
well obviously yeah i mean that's like you're literally building a video
platform so you didn't i would have done it you would have done it the way you
did it uh but there are some changes i would have done for Floatplane if i knew
if if me and the team knew what we know now there are some things that i would
have done differently okay there's there's a lot of things that are done differently there's like a
couple primary ones that i would have done differently but but there's some
core design philosophies behind
how they are handling their video content right that
i do not think is a great idea but
well i've invited um i've invited one of the creators onto the show that would be
cool so get a chance to talk to them i mean i just think that it's like
the way that i see it is
you could view us as competitors but we've both we're both such
so much smaller fish that like
it's better to kind of be aligned yeah
at least at this stage in the game yeah that's what i'm saying like we're both
rather small and i think basically everybody in this more
specific niche is rather small and having more of us that are doing well is
a good thing yes so i wish them the best in this risk game you know
google has north america and south america
amazon is holding on to europe you know um
microsoft who else even exists yeah but what does microsoft really do in online
video they have a live streaming platform mixer okay so microsoft has
australia mixer takes up northern ireland
and meanwhile like you know
uh nebula and Floatplane are hanging out in like japan and kamchatka
like they can't really penetrate north america because it's really heavily
fortified but like every turn they can collect three armies and then take just
one country in asia and then maybe start to collect four once they can get 12
countries i've been playing risk with the kid um clearly and you know start to
and just have a big enough you know
mass of of armies that is kind of not worth it for any of the big players to
come in and take that over but like just kind of keep moving around be like a a
roving hoard of barbarians you know and bide their time
not attacking each other like and then when it when the time comes to strike
you know make sure that they're moving together against the incumbents you know
that's that's the end of the show thanks for
watching guys see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye
everybody what a crazy show did you see the thumbnail
no oh i still can't look at it because it's
still technically live
so we've been doing that because we've been uploading the archives manually but
why would you do the live stream
announcements oh why was that no i don't know why that was like that that shouldn't have been like that
sorry i was thinking i knew you could publish them unlisted i didn't know you
could like start the stream unless