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this may look like a bog standard compact gaming PC but this little Steam

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logo here makes it something else altogether it's a steam machine that's

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right if you blinked you could have missed it but almost 10 years ago before

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valve disrupted the handheld gaming market with the steam deck they actually

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attempted the same thing in the living room and this is not just any steam

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machine valve built this one themselves as part of a beta program that included

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only 300 units and there was some very

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custom work done here to make it special but there's a catch this one

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is broken we got it from Freaky Twin

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Cities in Minneapolis Minnesota who

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great eye by the way recognized what it

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was and figured they better reach out to see if someone could get it running and

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give it a better send-off than the scrap yard and do better to do it than yours

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truly with the help of Anthony truly

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foreign

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valve announced steamos their homegrown

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Linux based operating system that was designed to counteract what they saw as

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Microsoft's strategy of tightening their grip on the Windows ecosystem through

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Windows 8. it's a bit of an oversimplification the story obviously

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goes a little deeper than this but in a nutshell valve was concerned that the

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Windows store would push third-party marketplaces like steam off of Windows

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like what Apple did with the iPhone and then what was valve going to do develop

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games but how do you drive adoption of your

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new gaming OS I mean diy-ers like me might install it but if you want to

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build a strong enough platform to attract game developers you need a large

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install base millions of units and for that you need a hardware product enter

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the steam machine valve imagined these

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as semi-standardized PCS that would fit in

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in the living room and run their just launched Big Picture Mode but the thing

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is PC gaming wasn't nearly as controller friendly as it is today so to bring the

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whole thing together they also needed the steam controller which made waves

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for its incredible programmability dual touch pads and integrated gyroscopic

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controls we reviewed it back then but in truth we missed a lot of what was great

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about it and we especially had no idea how important its gyro controls would

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become and the script says this thing isn't booting at all but it actually

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posted and is this supposed to happen

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um no uh we well okay obviously there's

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something wrong here you can tell that there's something wrong

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it looks almost like Welsh sorry Welsh people

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um this card was supposed to be broken and as far as

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I could tell I couldn't get it to run on this PC or any other PC but here we are

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wow now yeah this is the first one that's not corrupt at all

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oh just it just needed a second the knee now it's fine yeah yeah obviously you

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just need to wait for your GPU to warm up is this GPU working now did I

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magically heal it I don't I don't think so I think I'm pretty sure I have that

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power well you have the power to magically destroy

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things often but no that's not magic that's just gravity oh man remember when

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bioses were stylish like this oh yeah this one's you've got like animated

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sparkles that's not a valve Innovation that's

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just ASRock being as rock yeah hey what the crap is going on here oh there is a

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boot device I see but it doesn't boot okay well you know what whatever's going

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on right now we're pretty sure this GPU is bad but the good news is that that's

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not a big deal while we don't have a direct replacement GTX 780 what we do

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have is a GTX Titan which valve's

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earliest units were actually specked out with anyway so we should be able to just

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oh okay look there's no standard top of the

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bracket for this GPU see it doesn't fold over valve took a hammer to it literally

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flattened it out and then they just put what like a bolt through it and a nut I

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I guess yeah uh we're missing the screw for it so it's just kind of flopping

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around in there but

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let's have some fun Anthony made some instructions for me let's so wait don't

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take the GPU out yet uh no do do take

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the GPU out these PCIe power connectors don't even have retention Clips but if

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they did you'd be very hard-pressed to get them off that's funny hard pressed

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Anthony I think I figured out why the GPU wasn't working what's up these are

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just like customized like DIY right angle power connectors and it looks like

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two of the pins fell out okay so this

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eight pin wasn't actually making contact probably

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that's weird now this GPU also didn't work properly

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in my bench so maybe that's why it burnt out

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reassuring now this is interesting for the Prototype valve used a standard

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Zalman cnps 2x cooler it's right off the

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shelf what's non-standard is the Shroud that sits over top of it this serves two

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purposes one it allows the CPU Cooler to draw a nice fresh air in from outside of

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the case and two it takes that air and blows it over the

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motherboard chipset and over the memory modules providing some secondary cooling

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now what's interesting to note is that even though this product never made it

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to mass production this is in fact an injection molded part and doesn't have

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quite the same geometry as the early press units like the one that The Verge

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saw that one appeared to have a 3D printed shroud yeah from what they said

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in their article they actually were

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printing them as The Verge was touring the facility so yeah they were doing

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rapid prototyping now I would have given just about anything to get my hands on

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one of these back in the day mind you as I recall testers were prohibited from

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taking it apart so um wouldn't have been allowed to do this

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I mean would you have done it anyway I would have told valve not on camera

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um the tester's got some really cool goodies though they got the steam machine they got a profile badge and

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they got a handful of Linux native games to test on them and presumably they

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would have run pretty well given the performance of the hardware not that

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this is working now you found some unique stuff about this 780 did you not

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I did so what I found was when I dumped

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the V BIOS of this thing on an actual bench it was a different version number

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than anything listed or at least verified on Tech powerups database and

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it's only about like well it's it's 35 kilobytes smaller in size than the

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reference 780v by us it's dated for

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around October of 2013. this is around the same time that valve announced Steam

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OS so our best guess is that maybe this was a custom V BIOS that valve had in

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order to enable re-clocking with a

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customized version of the open source Nouveau driver or well I guess we've

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proven that it's not a custom vbias to blank the the image yeah I'll tell you

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boot that was one of our theories but now it um outputs so yeah and it's

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possible it could just straight up be corrupt never know

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as far as we need to go in here we've got access to everything from the board

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back here that's covered in LEDs for the illuminated power button we can see the

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little sfx Silverstone power supply here this is where our PCIe Riser goes to

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plug in our GPU I like their cable management for the

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rear power plug here that goes to the back of the power supply way over here

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yeah they did a lot of really interesting things with routing the

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cables in this build and the cooling power supply has its own Zone CPU has

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its own Zone and the GPU has its own Zone all in a tiny little chassis like

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this and can you imagine doing all that work just for 300 prototype units that

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are never going to be mass produced I mean if I worked at valve I could imagine doing a lot of things on things

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that will never be released oh got them it's notable that aside from the

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thoughtfully customized chassis this system was pretty forward-looking in

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terms of specs there's the high power GPU cost adders that weren't common at

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the time like the PCIe Riser card and unlike consoles of that generation which

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still used mechanical hard drives it includes an obscenely expensive SSD

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what valve was thinking here is impossible to say for sure but if I had

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to guess I'd say it was a combination of two things one I'm sure that they wanted

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early testers to have the smoothest possible experience knowing that Linux

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performance was lower than Windows at that time and two maybe since they knew

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that they couldn't hit the same price levels as Sony and Microsoft were anyway

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they figured well hey if you're going to be premium why not go super premium

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it's hard for us to say for sure but when third-party Steam Machines did

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eventually surface from the likes of Alienware their pricing wasn't much

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better which is a big reason that this project ultimately failed

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I need to fix this power connector though well

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I'm curious are you gonna be happy or mad if it

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works Let's uh let's go with Mappy well we'll play an old Namco game well I'm

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having fun it's always a bad a bad time when Linus is having fun people ask how

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scripted our videos are I'm like very scripted until they're not until they're

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not yeah I had all this planned out it would be perfectly smooth

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Linus had to come in here and turn it on the first try

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did I re-break it yes yeah it must be

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really marginal I don't know what's going on

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it's getting full power now presumably so I don't know that's not a problem

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poked back they could have poked back out maybe it didn't want the extra two

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pins you never know this kind of prototype

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stuff the kinds of workarounds that they might

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Implement you never do know I mean I thought that maybe it was a v-bias thing

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just because of how different the vbias was

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it's even that's even messed up again

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um I mean for now oh oh

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well this isn't doing anything anymore oh it's plugged in

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oh yeah hey there we go and it fixed itself again unfortunately while our

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Hardware woes appear to be some viewed uh our software problems

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have just begun both are boot SSD and

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our Recovery USB drive were blanked and re-imaging this machine has been a lot

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more challenging than we expected valve's downloads for Steam OS have all

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been taken down and while we did manage to track down the original public

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release of steamos 1.0 codename Alchemist neither it nor the most recent

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release codename brewmaster would boot past the first time Setup Wizard Anthony

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did some digging and found that valve's custom compositor seems to be crashing

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but we aren't sure why the memory tests

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okay and it also happens with the integrated GPU so at this point we

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decided to give up it is what I would say if we didn't have one final trick up

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our sleeve and that's Hollow OS Hollow

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OS is a community effort to make the steam deck version of Steam OS which is

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based on Arch and is available from valve work on any PC now unfortunately

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because it's a deck image we can't use an NVIDIA GPU so it's bye bye 780 bye

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bye Titan hello RX 580 this isn't an RX

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580. this is the GPU plus from multidstore.com you belong right here

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decorating my set thank you very much this

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is an RX 580. it needs a little bit of

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help to fit and stuff but we'll do that this GPU is tall it's too fat too tall

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people talk about your height all the time so it sounds like you're just

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projecting a little it's because I'm short though don't mind me I'm

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definitely not putting an SSD that's been pre-loaded with Holo OS in here

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that's called a lampshade well

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I'm in stimulus take that suckers I gotta confess I'm not that married to

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gaming on the steam controller I was never really a fan yeah it feels

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like the steam controller is probably a gimmick that we don't necessarily need

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yeah why am I only getting 50 FPS on an

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RX 580 I know vsync is off in CS go but

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I think what's happening is steamos 3.0

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runs games via game scope which is their compositor

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which then has vsync so I think if we

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had an actual steam deck we could turn that off I'm not sure how to do that here I don't

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know how you get the right menu button without a controller

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yeah because this feels horrible you're just calling

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people poor Linus no that isn't no move

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the mouse I dare you

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yeah that's 60 FPS no also dang it

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Anthony there's a guy there well what was it what was I supposed to do I couldn't see him look I bet even on

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camera you can see this delay

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oh yeah is this broken

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what just happened what what did you do me I didn't do anything what well what

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did you do in the game I quit it oh wow

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that smells uh-oh did we just fry a GPU

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Recovery USB to the rescue okay let it go

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I might explain why I was getting 60 FPS it might have been thermal throttling I

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don't smell Magic Smoke that just smells like hot GPU not dead GPU did you try a

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controller before I didn't try a controller I don't I didn't have one

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hello buddy like it saw some it saw some devices so clearly the Bluetooth card is

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working yeah is that a series X controller or an Xbox One controller

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this is an old one Xbox one that might not have Bluetooth

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you're right hey this is a good sign hello

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hello oh you know what this might be

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it's an old Bluetooth standard so we need a really old Bluetooth

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controller uh are you are you sure about

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you no okay yeah it's not what I was going for necessarily but this will do

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Forza Horizon 5. no problem yeah you can

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play Forza with that oh yeah

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not analog sticks what what a few moments later

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after 45 minutes of compiling shaders

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hello wait wait

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yes there are no friends to suggest wait

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let oh you know about this you know that's fine this gives us some time to

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speculate about what a successful steam machine present day might have looked

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like obviously Hardware has gotten much more performance since then to the point

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where you could build a machine with this kind of performance for a fraction

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of the cost I mean honestly the steam deck probably isn't that far off the

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performance of this thing probably not like

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CPU-wise I mean it I think it actually has more cores living room console the

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size of a steam link anyone that would have been pretty sick it's just too bad

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that realistically it was ahead of its time because aside from the cost Linux

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compatibility wasn't where valve needed it to be and it took another

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realistically nine years to get it there

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with that said I don't see any obvious

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reason why Steam Machines couldn't come back from the dead at this point

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we've got the OS we've got the game

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compatibility we've got the better more affordable hardware for 1080p gaming I

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mean sure 4K is still going to cost you a pretty penny but 1080p gaming would

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anything prevent this from happening I mean people buy NVIDIA Shields and stuff

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right this would be a step up from that

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absolutely well they'd have to build in better sort of media center yeah that's

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that's the killer app for the shield yeah like I almost exclusively run Plex

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on two of my Shields that's literally all they do now if only the people you

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were about to kill knew that you were playing on a steam machine actually that

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brings something up what is a steam machine you're probably thinking if you

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could just swap Hardware in and out of these things how could valve possibly

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account for all the wildly different Hardware configurations the way that a

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typical console manufacturer would how do they deliver a a predictable gaming

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experience the answer might shock you

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they were apparently originally planning to use the steam Hardware survey to pick

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out your specific configuration and then

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compare their data for how well games ran to let you see whether a game would

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be compatible with your system or not while this obviously never happened you

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can actually see some of the groundwork they laid for this coming back with the

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steam decks compatibility filters and it's possible this feature isn't

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entirely dead we can only hope Anthony check this out

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where's my hands oh where's my hands at is that a level

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of detail thing or is that oh my God that's hilarious

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my gun just floats around you got feet

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do I oh yeah I've got legs I've got legs

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but no upper body no stutters

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I wouldn't say that but realistically it's pretty low spec Hardware these days

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and there's nothing that I could pin on Linux in particular

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yeah well I mean you're only running with four gigs of vrams yeah

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