WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.799 This is the X Plus Rival Mini PC and it 00:00:03.360 --> 00:00:08.880 might be living up to that name because if all the bullish marketing is to be 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:14.639 believed on it, this might be rivaling the framework desktop that I just looked 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:17.199 at a couple weeks ago because in here is 00:00:14.639 --> 00:00:23.199 the Ryzen AI Max 395 Plus chip or also known as 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:28.240 Stricks Halo which has become a beast for both gaming and AI large language 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:34.239 models. But I want to see what it's actually like before I make that decision. 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:37.440 Whoops. That is an incredibly strong odor that hit my nose. Smells like 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:40.640 cleaning material. Maybe maybe that means it's good then. I Who knows? It's 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:43.920 very bland marketing on the inside of the box, but in here, I think this is 00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:51.520 Yep. These are all the cables we'll need. Let's take a look at our power brick here. It is 240 W power brick. 00:00:48.239 --> 00:00:53.199 Looks like it includes one HDMI. Not 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:57.280 quite sure what spec it is. Neither is the website. We'll find out later. What 00:00:55.680 --> 00:01:01.039 are these thumb screws? I don't really know what they go to. Instruction 00:00:58.879 --> 00:01:04.720 manual. Instruction manual in case you didn't read it the first time. And here 00:01:02.480 --> 00:01:09.840 it is. The star of the show. It's very light. 00:01:06.720 --> 00:01:12.479 Oh, actually looks kind of cool for a 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:16.320 mini PC. It looks like a little bit more gamery than a traditional Nook does. 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:19.680 What am I hitting on the back here? Is this tab? Oh, this is where the M.2s 00:01:18.720 --> 00:01:24.080 are, but I was trying to figure out what this little flappy tab is, but I think it's just to help you get it off there. 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:31.680 That's a little confusing. We'll put that to the side. And then the last thing in here seems to be a little bit 00:01:27.759 --> 00:01:33.439 of a snack. Is this What is this? 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:37.040 Wow, that's charcoal. One moment, please. 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:41.520 Just cut that. The last thing in the box here is the stand, which maybe I need to 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:48.479 read the manual to figure out how this goes on. Does it just Oh, it kind of sits in there. And then is it really 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:50.799 just like Nope. 00:01:48.479 --> 00:01:54.560 Oh, there's It says there's more pieces. Oh, there they are. There's a couple 00:01:52.960 --> 00:01:58.240 more pieces. This is starting to make much more sense now. And then those two 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:02.960 thumb screws I found earlier. I'm starting to understand. It seems that 00:02:00.399 --> 00:02:05.439 they go on like this. And then the mini PC would go in the middle. I'm not 00:02:04.399 --> 00:02:09.200 actually going to set up the stand because I actually kind of like the look of it like this. Now, other than 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:13.360 arguably looking a little bit more gamery than the framework one, why do I 00:02:11.440 --> 00:02:16.239 think that this is a rival to it? It's because again it's using the exact same 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:20.160 chip in here, but it's actually coming in at a starting price that is on par 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:23.840 with that computer, but it also includes some other features such as more IO 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:28.480 specifically on the front here. We've got a full-size SD card reader on the 00:02:25.920 --> 00:02:31.440 front. Got a USBC, two USBAs, a headphone audio jack combination, and 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:36.239 then our power button. And the button on the front here cycles between three different performance modes, which again 00:02:34.480 --> 00:02:39.120 on their website seems a bit conflicting cuz they appear to call it a different 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:42.400 mode depending on where you're looking, the BIOS, the website, or actually on 00:02:41.040 --> 00:02:48.239 the computer itself. On the back side here, we've got three USBAs, an HDMI, a 00:02:44.959 --> 00:02:50.080 DisplayPort, a USBC, a 2.5 gigabit LAN, 00:02:48.239 --> 00:02:53.519 and another audio port. So, you actually get two, which is kind of cool. And then 00:02:51.440 --> 00:02:57.680 a power port there for you to actually plug it in and get this thing going. The 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:01.040 HDMI on the back here and the DisplayPort. Also a little confusing. Like I 00:02:59.440 --> 00:03:06.800 mentioned, in one spot, they say it's HDMI 2.1. In another they say it's HDMI 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:08.480 2.0. Let's hope we got the 2.1 cuz I 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:12.560 have no idea how to check that unless we actually plug it in and get a 2.1 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:15.920 display. and see if we can run it at the max bandwidth. On the back here though, 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:20.432 like I mentioned, this is the M.2 access. I want to open that up just to 00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:24.400 see exactly what else we get back there. [music] And maybe we can access our 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:28.959 Wi-Fi card, which is Wi-Fi 7, by the way. There we go. There's our one SSD 00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:35.440 that's installed already. And it looks like we have access for a second one right there. In this case, we have a 00:03:32.640 --> 00:03:38.959 Wow. 2 TB included SSD. Another reason why maybe this is rivaling the 00:03:37.200 --> 00:03:43.599 framework. You have to bring your own or buy one from Framework. The price you 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:48.080 see includes a two TB SSD. Can I access the Nope. I can't really access anything 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:51.519 else. Oh, damn. The Wi-Fi card is like right under here. Can't quite get to it 00:03:50.239 --> 00:03:59.120 if you want to swap it out and upgrade it in the future. That's okay. I'm sure you can open the rest of this. 00:03:56.720 --> 00:04:05.920 I just noticed that the thermal pad on the M.2 cover only covers like the first 00:04:03.519 --> 00:04:09.519 half of the SSD. So, if you had a a fulls size SSD that maybe had like more 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:15.920 chips on this side, [music] it wouldn't be getting any of the cooling from this 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:17.519 heat sink. Something to take note. 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:21.680 Okay, framework, you've got a oneup on this one. This one's not as repairable. 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.840 Takes six screws removing the rubber feet to get at it. Oh my god, did I not 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:29.120 peel this enough? Is there more? Damn it, there's another one. Never mind. 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:33.840 Eight screws. Now, it's time for the grand reveal. 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:37.120 There it is. There's our fan right there. I'm going to unplug it just so I 00:04:35.280 --> 00:04:41.840 don't break that cable. Tiny little fan just right over in the backside here. 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:44.880 I'm not really sure what that's cooling. Maybe just providing an extra little bit 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.840 of passive air flow along the back of the board. Dang it. I was kind of hoping 00:04:46.479 --> 00:04:53.280 this was the side with the chip, though. Can't see much else from here, but there's that Wi-Fi chip with the antenna 00:04:51.280 --> 00:04:56.320 kind of running up along the front here. Is there anything else that's of note? 00:04:54.960 --> 00:04:59.840 Not really, cuz this is the back side of the board. I'm going deeper. Can't wait 00:04:58.479 --> 00:05:03.240 for this to not boot when it's time to play games now. 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:08.000 Dang it. I really wanted to see it. I want to see how it's being cooled 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:12.080 because one of the biggest differences between this and the framework is the 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:17.039 cooling system. On the framework, you had a full 120 mil fan that had a pretty 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:21.600 chunky heat sink. On this one, I It's a lot thinner, so I wanted to see what 00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:24.080 it's cooling. No, please let me add it. 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:29.523 Oh, wait. Hold on. Nope. That's the power button. 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:29.523 Damn it. [laughter] 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.600 So close. Come on. Yeah. I'm not sure what it is, but I want to I don't want to go too much deeper just in case I 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:44.960 want to still turn this thing on. I technically don't need to actually see what the cooling system is. Labs did do 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:48.960 some numbers to see how hot it gets. To the surprise of no one if it's this thin 00:05:46.880 --> 00:05:53.919 and a lot, you know, less cooling than the framework. It actually didn't 00:05:51.440 --> 00:05:57.520 perform as well in terms of cooling. And I mean to be fair, I don't think this 00:05:55.440 --> 00:06:01.564 one is designed to be as opened up like I just did uh compared to the framework 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:06.880 for example. I guess unless you need [music] to like actually repair something in there, but nah, I wanted to 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.400 take a look and now I've been disappointed. Other than cooling, one of 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:14.639 the major differences between this and the framework desktop is that this one 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:19.280 starts with 96 gigs of RAM, whereas on the framework side, if you want to get 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:21.520 the 395 chip, it starts at 64. This can 00:06:19.280 --> 00:06:25.840 be configured all the way up to 128 just like the framework desktop, but it needs 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:31.440 to be soldered in order to reach those crazy speeds of 8,533 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:34.560 MHz. It actually can't do that, but that's 00:06:32.880 --> 00:06:38.000 what this website advertises. It only goes up to 8,000. I'm not sure where 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.840 they pulled that number from. We looked in the BIOS with Labs and they couldn't 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:44.639 figure it out. False advertising. I don't know. Maybe it can. I want to 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:50.720 power this thing up though and see how it does in gaming. 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And because I didn't get the other side off, I couldn't actually confirm 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.960 that. I think I see at least one fan through the top grill right here. And 00:08:17.280 --> 00:08:23.039 then there was that back fan. Let's see how loud it is then when we actually 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:27.199 start getting into some real games here. Okay, let's open up our task manager 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:30.960 here. I want to see just how many gigs of RAM is being Oh, there you go. Okay, 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:36.159 so 32 gigs of RAM is being allocated to our GPU and then we have 64 gigs of RAM 00:08:33.599 --> 00:08:38.719 being dedicated to our CPU. Just like the framework, this one can be 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.279 configured in the BIOS. And with this model, you can go all the way from half 00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:46.880 a gig of RAM up to 48 gigs of RAM. So, it's not quite the three quarters that 00:08:44.880 --> 00:08:51.680 framework allowed you to go, but I mean, if you put 48 gigs of RAM on this GPU, 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:55.360 you have more VRAM than a 5090. So, running large language models that could 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:58.959 fit entirely in RAM, for example, will theoretically be much better on this 00:08:56.959 --> 00:09:03.200 device than some of those higherend cards. I mean, obviously big asterisks, 00:09:01.040 --> 00:09:07.120 big asterisks based on the type of model and exactly how fast it is and 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.959 everything, but it gives you an idea of exactly how much VRAM you can give this 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:14.880 puppy. I want to do some gaming on it with the stock config, which is the 32 00:09:12.880 --> 00:09:17.440 gigs. Let's do I did Cyberpunk with the framework. So, let's do Cyberpunk again. 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:21.040 >> Boo. >> What do you mean, Boo? >> I wanted Rivals. 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:25.120 >> You want Oh, you wanted Rivals on the Rival. Guys, we can't play Rivals on the 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.600 Rival. It's not part of our test suite. >> We are testing it though. We're trying 00:09:27.040 --> 00:09:33.360 to >> You're testing it and I can't play rivals on the rival. 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:36.760 >> Oh, that fan is definitely picking up. Can you hear it? 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:43.200 >> I want to hit the power button or the light button on this and check the 00:09:40.959 --> 00:09:49.680 modes. Okay, so we've got like a rainbow wave. Ooh, red. Oh, yellow. Does it just 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:55.920 do all rainbow? What's the next one? Off. Okay, very cool. Ooh, look at that. 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:58.800 Oh, I was talking to John from the Labs. Apparently, you can't configure this 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:02.080 other than just this button right here. It's just a bunch of presets that you 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:05.760 hit and you find one that you like. We're going to go with unicorn barf. All 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:12.720 right, let's give it a go. Yeah, I'm cyberpunk. 1440p basically everything on 00:10:08.880 --> 00:10:15.200 high and ultra. Average is 46 in this 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:18.240 area. Let's get to like a Oh crap, I've never played cyberpunk before. Am I not 00:10:16.959 --> 00:10:22.800 like a robot? I thought I could live fall damage. Well, 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:30.480 we're almost to the point where I can start killing people and then I'll tell you what the FPS is. Okay. Oh, 1% lows. 00:10:28.959 --> 00:10:38.399 When it was loading there was like 20 FPS, 30 FPS now. 40 FPS average roughly. 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:40.720 You know, I think if you're like a PS4 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:44.000 gamer, this is right up your alley. It just costs a lot more than a PS4. I 00:10:42.959 --> 00:10:50.160 think we should probably go down to 1080p though. I feel like that's where this thing will really shine. It's a 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:53.920 little bit better. Our average is around 50. Probably get it up to 60 if we did 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:57.760 some more tweaking with the actual settings, which in that case then I 00:10:55.760 --> 00:11:02.240 would call this totally playable. 60 FPS. We touched it there for a second. 00:11:00.160 --> 00:11:06.000 Do I keep my FPS average when I start killing people? 00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:12.240 It's not the type of game I'd play. Anyways, let's boot something else up. This thing's not quiet. It's kind of 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:15.920 annoying, actually. And it doesn't even feel like it's moving that. Oh, there's 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:21.040 actually a decent amount coming out the back, which is fine, but I would expect these to be like an intake or something 00:11:18.880 --> 00:11:24.000 or or another exhaust. We're actually getting two gigabit download, which 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:28.000 according to the marketing, it said that two and a half is twice as fast as one. 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:32.640 Matt's a little hard, I guess, cuz it's supposed to be one two and a half times 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:36.000 faster, not two times faster. But hey, won't criticize them too much. I wanted 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:39.839 to make sure I was in the turbo mode, so I hit the button. I love that it just 00:11:37.680 --> 00:11:43.920 pulls up this image. So, that's probably eco. 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:47.200 Unless that's eco. And that's turbo. I'm not really sure. 00:11:45.760 --> 00:11:52.399 It doesn't give me anything else other than that. I'm going to hope that red is 00:11:48.959 --> 00:11:54.720 turbo. My download slowed down. Red was 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:58.480 stop. Actually, that also that click on that button is the worst feeling click 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:02.160 I've I think I've ever felt on a desktop computer. Okay, my bad. You don't need 00:12:00.800 --> 00:12:05.839 to yell at me just because I was insulting you. While I wait for CS2 to 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:09.920 download, we can go over the lab's results. in 1080p amongst all of our 00:12:07.839 --> 00:12:13.519 games. We decided to test it both in the balanced and performance mode against 00:12:11.920 --> 00:12:19.360 the framework desktop. And in the performance mode, it was on par, but in 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:24.399 some games it was about a 2% worse performance across the board, whether it 00:12:20.800 --> 00:12:26.560 was like F1 uh 24 or Allen Wake 2. And 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:30.480 then in the balance mode, it definitely suffered a lot more than the framework 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:35.120 desktop. We also did try ray tracing because it's capable of ray tracing. I 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.839 would not recommend it. I mean, I didn't recommend the framework in ray tracing 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:42.160 either. As soon as you turn rater tracing on, the frame rates basically get cut in half and you're getting like 00:12:40.160 --> 00:12:45.839 a 30 FPS in Cyberpunk. And then in 1440p, again, same story. It seemed on 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:51.279 par with the framework in the performance mode and then the balance mode, which was worse, but that's kind 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.399 of expected if you're toggling between the two modes. The result that I'm the 00:12:52.959 --> 00:12:59.360 most interested in is the thermals. Mainly because this thing is loud as 00:12:56.800 --> 00:13:04.079 heck when it's right beside my head. And it kind of shows. At least in our F-124 00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:09.920 test, it struggled compared to the Framework desktop. It got up to 84° and 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:15.040 averaged 82. And it averaged way hotter than the Framework while drawing less 00:13:12.160 --> 00:13:18.880 power on average, which not a good thing. I didn't mention it earlier, but 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:22.800 this chip is actually basically locked at the 120 watts that it advertises. 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:26.639 Whereas the framework was able to clock a little bit higher if it felt that it 00:13:24.800 --> 00:13:29.839 needed it and it could go further. And again, man, this thing is getting real 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:37.120 loud again. And I'm trying to talk and it's interrupting my thinking. And same story in Cinebench. It was averaging way 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:40.880 hotter while drawing less wattage. It's probably because it is a way thinner 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:44.639 cooler. Saying that though, it is still a performative little machine. When we 00:13:42.880 --> 00:13:48.639 did some of our Blender renders, it actually managed to keep up with the 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:52.480 framework in some tests. It was a little bit behind, but again, that's probably 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:56.480 due to it maybe overheating and thermal throttling. In our multi-core test, it 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:59.199 was again just slightly behind the framework desktop in the performance 00:13:57.920 --> 00:14:04.000 mode. But the single core performance was identical, which is what I would hope because they're the exact same 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:06.720 chip. In our Photoshop test, this is where this thing really shines through. 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:10.720 In the Photoshop, it actually outperformed the framework by just a 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:15.360 tiny bit. My CS2 is downloaded. I don't care about Photoshop. I have gaming to 00:14:12.880 --> 00:14:20.800 do. Got everything on high settings. 1080p. 1% lows. It's hard to see with 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:26.240 the mini map. What is that? 80. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm Stop it. Stop. I 1% 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:32.800 lows seem to be settling in at about 80 with our average being 150. Doesn't seem 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:36.079 to be as good as the framework desktop. But again, I wonder if that's because of 00:14:34.079 --> 00:14:41.360 a heat issue. I don't know. This is CS2, right? I don't if it's overheating in 00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:43.600 this game, bro. Oh, dude. Triple. Oh, 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.399 quad feed. I'm reloading. Okay. It's very distracting, though. I think if I 00:14:44.880 --> 00:14:50.079 had headphones on, I could get over it. But this thing is This sucker's loud. 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:53.279 But just because it's loud, does that mean it's not worth it? Well, it depends 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:56.880 on what you get it for because depending on when you refresh the page or which 00:14:55.040 --> 00:15:01.680 device you open the website on, the price seems to change. At the time of 00:14:58.880 --> 00:15:07.360 filming this, we've seen it for $1480 starting at this config and $1,700 for 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:11.440 the 128 config, which again is cheaper at that top-end model than the framework 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:15.680 was, but according to our Labs, you get a little bit less performance. I think 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.880 the $300 saving that you get is worth the performance difference, but I think 00:15:17.199 --> 00:15:23.839 it depends on what your use case is. If you're going to go for something that is more of a productivity workhorse, 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:28.560 whether that's LLMs where you need the VRAMm or I don't know, minor esports 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:32.320 gamings like a LAN event or something, I think this thing is pretty worth it. But 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:36.240 I wouldn't buy it from that site. I'm sorry. X Plus, while we were filming, we 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:41.920 found an Alibaba listing for a device that looks surprisingly familiar to this 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:44.079 one. And it starts at $1,250 00:15:41.920 --> 00:15:48.959 for this config. And I think if you can buy it at that price, holy cow, this 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:54.320 might be the cheapest way to get into the Stricks Halo family, and even the 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:56.560 128 gig version is about $1,600. 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.959 In that case, I would go for it. But let me know what you guys think down below. 00:15:57.680 --> 00:16:03.279 If you guys enjoyed this video and want to see what I was talking about when comparing this to the Framework, go 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:06.480 check out the Framework desktop that I unboxed. It actually had a front face 00:16:05.040 --> 00:16:11.199 that you could configure with a bunch of tiles, and I put Lionus on there. That's 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:11.199 really cute.