1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,799 This is the X Plus Rival Mini PC and it 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,880 might be living up to that name because if all the bullish marketing is to be 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:14,639 believed on it, this might be rivaling the framework desktop that I just looked 4 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:17,199 at a couple weeks ago because in here is 5 00:00:14,639 --> 00:00:23,199 the Ryzen AI Max 395 Plus chip or also known as 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Stricks Halo which has become a beast for both gaming and AI large language 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:34,239 models. But I want to see what it's actually like before I make that decision. 8 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:37,440 Whoops. That is an incredibly strong odor that hit my nose. Smells like 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,640 cleaning material. Maybe maybe that means it's good then. I Who knows? It's 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,920 very bland marketing on the inside of the box, but in here, I think this is 11 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:51,520 Yep. These are all the cables we'll need. Let's take a look at our power brick here. It is 240 W power brick. 12 00:00:48,239 --> 00:00:53,199 Looks like it includes one HDMI. Not 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,280 quite sure what spec it is. Neither is the website. We'll find out later. What 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,039 are these thumb screws? I don't really know what they go to. Instruction 15 00:00:58,879 --> 00:01:04,720 manual. Instruction manual in case you didn't read it the first time. And here 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:09,840 it is. The star of the show. It's very light. 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,479 Oh, actually looks kind of cool for a 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:16,320 mini PC. It looks like a little bit more gamery than a traditional Nook does. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,680 What am I hitting on the back here? Is this tab? Oh, this is where the M.2s 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,080 are, but I was trying to figure out what this little flappy tab is, but I think it's just to help you get it off there. 21 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:31,680 That's a little confusing. We'll put that to the side. And then the last thing in here seems to be a little bit 22 00:01:27,759 --> 00:01:33,439 of a snack. Is this What is this? 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Wow, that's charcoal. One moment, please. 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Just cut that. The last thing in the box here is the stand, which maybe I need to 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:48,479 read the manual to figure out how this goes on. Does it just Oh, it kind of sits in there. And then is it really 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,799 just like Nope. 27 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:54,560 Oh, there's It says there's more pieces. Oh, there they are. There's a couple 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,240 more pieces. This is starting to make much more sense now. And then those two 29 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:02,960 thumb screws I found earlier. I'm starting to understand. It seems that 30 00:02:00,399 --> 00:02:05,439 they go on like this. And then the mini PC would go in the middle. I'm not 31 00:02:04,399 --> 00:02:09,200 actually going to set up the stand because I actually kind of like the look of it like this. Now, other than 32 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:13,360 arguably looking a little bit more gamery than the framework one, why do I 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,239 think that this is a rival to it? It's because again it's using the exact same 34 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:20,160 chip in here, but it's actually coming in at a starting price that is on par 35 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,840 with that computer, but it also includes some other features such as more IO 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,480 specifically on the front here. We've got a full-size SD card reader on the 37 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:31,440 front. Got a USBC, two USBAs, a headphone audio jack combination, and 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:36,239 then our power button. And the button on the front here cycles between three different performance modes, which again 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,120 on their website seems a bit conflicting cuz they appear to call it a different 40 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,400 mode depending on where you're looking, the BIOS, the website, or actually on 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:48,239 the computer itself. On the back side here, we've got three USBAs, an HDMI, a 42 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:50,080 DisplayPort, a USBC, a 2.5 gigabit LAN, 43 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:53,519 and another audio port. So, you actually get two, which is kind of cool. And then 44 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:57,680 a power port there for you to actually plug it in and get this thing going. The 45 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:01,040 HDMI on the back here and the DisplayPort. Also a little confusing. Like I 46 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:06,800 mentioned, in one spot, they say it's HDMI 2.1. In another they say it's HDMI 47 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,480 2.0. Let's hope we got the 2.1 cuz I 48 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:12,560 have no idea how to check that unless we actually plug it in and get a 2.1 49 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:15,920 display. and see if we can run it at the max bandwidth. On the back here though, 50 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:20,432 like I mentioned, this is the M.2 access. I want to open that up just to 51 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:24,400 see exactly what else we get back there. [music] And maybe we can access our 52 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:28,959 Wi-Fi card, which is Wi-Fi 7, by the way. There we go. There's our one SSD 53 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:35,440 that's installed already. And it looks like we have access for a second one right there. In this case, we have a 54 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:38,959 Wow. 2 TB included SSD. Another reason why maybe this is rivaling the 55 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:43,599 framework. You have to bring your own or buy one from Framework. The price you 56 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:48,080 see includes a two TB SSD. Can I access the Nope. I can't really access anything 57 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,519 else. Oh, damn. The Wi-Fi card is like right under here. Can't quite get to it 58 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:59,120 if you want to swap it out and upgrade it in the future. That's okay. I'm sure you can open the rest of this. 59 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:05,920 I just noticed that the thermal pad on the M.2 cover only covers like the first 60 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:09,519 half of the SSD. So, if you had a a fulls size SSD that maybe had like more 61 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:15,920 chips on this side, [music] it wouldn't be getting any of the cooling from this 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:17,519 heat sink. Something to take note. 63 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Okay, framework, you've got a oneup on this one. This one's not as repairable. 64 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:25,840 Takes six screws removing the rubber feet to get at it. Oh my god, did I not 65 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,120 peel this enough? Is there more? Damn it, there's another one. Never mind. 66 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Eight screws. Now, it's time for the grand reveal. 67 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,120 There it is. There's our fan right there. I'm going to unplug it just so I 68 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:41,840 don't break that cable. Tiny little fan just right over in the backside here. 69 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,880 I'm not really sure what that's cooling. Maybe just providing an extra little bit 70 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,840 of passive air flow along the back of the board. Dang it. I was kind of hoping 71 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:53,280 this was the side with the chip, though. Can't see much else from here, but there's that Wi-Fi chip with the antenna 72 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,320 kind of running up along the front here. Is there anything else that's of note? 73 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Not really, cuz this is the back side of the board. I'm going deeper. Can't wait 74 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:03,240 for this to not boot when it's time to play games now. 75 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Dang it. I really wanted to see it. I want to see how it's being cooled 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,080 because one of the biggest differences between this and the framework is the 77 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:17,039 cooling system. On the framework, you had a full 120 mil fan that had a pretty 78 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:21,600 chunky heat sink. On this one, I It's a lot thinner, so I wanted to see what 79 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:24,080 it's cooling. No, please let me add it. 80 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:29,523 Oh, wait. Hold on. Nope. That's the power button. 81 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,523 Damn it. [laughter] 82 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,600 So close. Come on. Yeah. I'm not sure what it is, but I want to I don't want to go too much deeper just in case I 83 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,960 want to still turn this thing on. I technically don't need to actually see what the cooling system is. Labs did do 84 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:48,960 some numbers to see how hot it gets. To the surprise of no one if it's this thin 85 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,919 and a lot, you know, less cooling than the framework. It actually didn't 86 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:57,520 perform as well in terms of cooling. And I mean to be fair, I don't think this 87 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,564 one is designed to be as opened up like I just did uh compared to the framework 88 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:06,880 for example. I guess unless you need [music] to like actually repair something in there, but nah, I wanted to 89 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:10,400 take a look and now I've been disappointed. Other than cooling, one of 90 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,639 the major differences between this and the framework desktop is that this one 91 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:19,280 starts with 96 gigs of RAM, whereas on the framework side, if you want to get 92 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,520 the 395 chip, it starts at 64. This can 93 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:25,840 be configured all the way up to 128 just like the framework desktop, but it needs 94 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:31,440 to be soldered in order to reach those crazy speeds of 8,533 95 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,560 MHz. It actually can't do that, but that's 96 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,000 what this website advertises. It only goes up to 8,000. I'm not sure where 97 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:41,840 they pulled that number from. We looked in the BIOS with Labs and they couldn't 98 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,639 figure it out. False advertising. I don't know. Maybe it can. I want to 99 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,720 power this thing up though and see how it does in gaming. Not after I game this 100 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,319 segue to sponsor. Thanks to Eme for 101 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,560 sponsoring this video. Their Pixie webcam doesn't just look like a cute 102 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:01,520 character from an animated sci-fi movie. It's got a ton of features, too. Capable 103 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:06,720 of 4K imaging at 30 FPS thanks to a dual camera system, industryleading Sony 104 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,720 sensors, and blink focus technology. It 105 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:13,759 can achieve super fast autofocus in about 0.2 seconds. 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At 114 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:57,680 least on boot, it is extremely quiet. Did I plug the fan back in? [laughter] I 115 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:59,440 think I did, right? Oh. 116 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,319 Ah. Once we're in Windows, the fan decides to kick in. You know that 117 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,160 demanding task. Windows. It's pretty loud. How many fans does 118 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:11,039 this thing have again? I think there's three because that's what the marketing 119 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,759 says. And because I didn't get the other side off, I couldn't actually confirm 120 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:18,960 that. I think I see at least one fan through the top grill right here. And 121 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,039 then there was that back fan. Let's see how loud it is then when we actually 122 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:27,199 start getting into some real games here. Okay, let's open up our task manager 123 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,960 here. I want to see just how many gigs of RAM is being Oh, there you go. Okay, 124 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:36,159 so 32 gigs of RAM is being allocated to our GPU and then we have 64 gigs of RAM 125 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:38,719 being dedicated to our CPU. Just like the framework, this one can be 126 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:43,279 configured in the BIOS. And with this model, you can go all the way from half 127 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:46,880 a gig of RAM up to 48 gigs of RAM. So, it's not quite the three quarters that 128 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:51,680 framework allowed you to go, but I mean, if you put 48 gigs of RAM on this GPU, 129 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,360 you have more VRAM than a 5090. So, running large language models that could 130 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:58,959 fit entirely in RAM, for example, will theoretically be much better on this 131 00:08:56,959 --> 00:09:03,200 device than some of those higherend cards. I mean, obviously big asterisks, 132 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:07,120 big asterisks based on the type of model and exactly how fast it is and 133 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,959 everything, but it gives you an idea of exactly how much VRAM you can give this 134 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,880 puppy. I want to do some gaming on it with the stock config, which is the 32 135 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,440 gigs. Let's do I did Cyberpunk with the framework. So, let's do Cyberpunk again. 136 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,040 >> Boo. >> What do you mean, Boo? >> I wanted Rivals. 137 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:25,120 >> You want Oh, you wanted Rivals on the Rival. Guys, we can't play Rivals on the 138 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Rival. It's not part of our test suite. >> We are testing it though. We're trying 139 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,360 to >> You're testing it and I can't play rivals on the rival. 140 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:36,760 >> Oh, that fan is definitely picking up. Can you hear it? 141 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,200 >> I want to hit the power button or the light button on this and check the 142 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:49,680 modes. Okay, so we've got like a rainbow wave. Ooh, red. Oh, yellow. Does it just 143 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:55,920 do all rainbow? What's the next one? Off. Okay, very cool. Ooh, look at that. 144 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:58,800 Oh, I was talking to John from the Labs. Apparently, you can't configure this 145 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,080 other than just this button right here. It's just a bunch of presets that you 146 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:05,760 hit and you find one that you like. We're going to go with unicorn barf. All 147 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:12,720 right, let's give it a go. Yeah, I'm cyberpunk. 1440p basically everything on 148 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:15,200 high and ultra. Average is 46 in this 149 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,240 area. Let's get to like a Oh crap, I've never played cyberpunk before. Am I not 150 00:10:16,959 --> 00:10:22,800 like a robot? I thought I could live fall damage. Well, 151 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:30,480 we're almost to the point where I can start killing people and then I'll tell you what the FPS is. Okay. Oh, 1% lows. 152 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:38,399 When it was loading there was like 20 FPS, 30 FPS now. 40 FPS average roughly. 153 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,720 You know, I think if you're like a PS4 154 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:44,000 gamer, this is right up your alley. It just costs a lot more than a PS4. I 155 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:50,160 think we should probably go down to 1080p though. I feel like that's where this thing will really shine. It's a 156 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:53,920 little bit better. Our average is around 50. Probably get it up to 60 if we did 157 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,760 some more tweaking with the actual settings, which in that case then I 158 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:02,240 would call this totally playable. 60 FPS. We touched it there for a second. 159 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Do I keep my FPS average when I start killing people? 160 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:12,240 It's not the type of game I'd play. Anyways, let's boot something else up. This thing's not quiet. It's kind of 161 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,920 annoying, actually. And it doesn't even feel like it's moving that. Oh, there's 162 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:21,040 actually a decent amount coming out the back, which is fine, but I would expect these to be like an intake or something 163 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,000 or or another exhaust. We're actually getting two gigabit download, which 164 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:28,000 according to the marketing, it said that two and a half is twice as fast as one. 165 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Matt's a little hard, I guess, cuz it's supposed to be one two and a half times 166 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,000 faster, not two times faster. But hey, won't criticize them too much. I wanted 167 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:39,839 to make sure I was in the turbo mode, so I hit the button. I love that it just 168 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:43,920 pulls up this image. So, that's probably eco. 169 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,200 Unless that's eco. And that's turbo. I'm not really sure. 170 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:52,399 It doesn't give me anything else other than that. I'm going to hope that red is 171 00:11:48,959 --> 00:11:54,720 turbo. My download slowed down. Red was 172 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:58,480 stop. Actually, that also that click on that button is the worst feeling click 173 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,160 I've I think I've ever felt on a desktop computer. Okay, my bad. You don't need 174 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,839 to yell at me just because I was insulting you. While I wait for CS2 to 175 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,920 download, we can go over the lab's results. in 1080p amongst all of our 176 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:13,519 games. We decided to test it both in the balanced and performance mode against 177 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:19,360 the framework desktop. And in the performance mode, it was on par, but in 178 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:24,399 some games it was about a 2% worse performance across the board, whether it 179 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,560 was like F1 uh 24 or Allen Wake 2. And 180 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:30,480 then in the balance mode, it definitely suffered a lot more than the framework 181 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:35,120 desktop. We also did try ray tracing because it's capable of ray tracing. I 182 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,839 would not recommend it. I mean, I didn't recommend the framework in ray tracing 183 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:42,160 either. As soon as you turn rater tracing on, the frame rates basically get cut in half and you're getting like 184 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,839 a 30 FPS in Cyberpunk. And then in 1440p, again, same story. It seemed on 185 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:51,279 par with the framework in the performance mode and then the balance mode, which was worse, but that's kind 186 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,399 of expected if you're toggling between the two modes. The result that I'm the 187 00:12:52,959 --> 00:12:59,360 most interested in is the thermals. Mainly because this thing is loud as 188 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:04,079 heck when it's right beside my head. And it kind of shows. At least in our F-124 189 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:09,920 test, it struggled compared to the Framework desktop. It got up to 84° and 190 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:15,040 averaged 82. And it averaged way hotter than the Framework while drawing less 191 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:18,880 power on average, which not a good thing. I didn't mention it earlier, but 192 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:22,800 this chip is actually basically locked at the 120 watts that it advertises. 193 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,639 Whereas the framework was able to clock a little bit higher if it felt that it 194 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,839 needed it and it could go further. And again, man, this thing is getting real 195 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:37,120 loud again. And I'm trying to talk and it's interrupting my thinking. And same story in Cinebench. It was averaging way 196 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:40,880 hotter while drawing less wattage. It's probably because it is a way thinner 197 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,639 cooler. Saying that though, it is still a performative little machine. When we 198 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,639 did some of our Blender renders, it actually managed to keep up with the 199 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:52,480 framework in some tests. It was a little bit behind, but again, that's probably 200 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:56,480 due to it maybe overheating and thermal throttling. In our multi-core test, it 201 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:59,199 was again just slightly behind the framework desktop in the performance 202 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:04,000 mode. But the single core performance was identical, which is what I would hope because they're the exact same 203 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,720 chip. In our Photoshop test, this is where this thing really shines through. 204 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:10,720 In the Photoshop, it actually outperformed the framework by just a 205 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:15,360 tiny bit. My CS2 is downloaded. I don't care about Photoshop. I have gaming to 206 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:20,800 do. Got everything on high settings. 1080p. 1% lows. It's hard to see with 207 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,240 the mini map. What is that? 80. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm Stop it. Stop. I 1% 208 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:32,800 lows seem to be settling in at about 80 with our average being 150. Doesn't seem 209 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,079 to be as good as the framework desktop. But again, I wonder if that's because of 210 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:41,360 a heat issue. I don't know. This is CS2, right? I don't if it's overheating in 211 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,600 this game, bro. Oh, dude. Triple. Oh, 212 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,399 quad feed. I'm reloading. Okay. It's very distracting, though. I think if I 213 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:50,079 had headphones on, I could get over it. But this thing is This sucker's loud. 214 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,279 But just because it's loud, does that mean it's not worth it? Well, it depends 215 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,880 on what you get it for because depending on when you refresh the page or which 216 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:01,680 device you open the website on, the price seems to change. At the time of 217 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:07,360 filming this, we've seen it for $1480 starting at this config and $1,700 for 218 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:11,440 the 128 config, which again is cheaper at that top-end model than the framework 219 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,680 was, but according to our Labs, you get a little bit less performance. I think 220 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,880 the $300 saving that you get is worth the performance difference, but I think 221 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:23,839 it depends on what your use case is. If you're going to go for something that is more of a productivity workhorse, 222 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:28,560 whether that's LLMs where you need the VRAMm or I don't know, minor esports 223 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:32,320 gamings like a LAN event or something, I think this thing is pretty worth it. But 224 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:36,240 I wouldn't buy it from that site. I'm sorry. X Plus, while we were filming, we 225 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:41,920 found an Alibaba listing for a device that looks surprisingly familiar to this 226 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:44,079 one. And it starts at $1,250 227 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:48,959 for this config. And I think if you can buy it at that price, holy cow, this 228 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:54,320 might be the cheapest way to get into the Stricks Halo family, and even the 229 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,560 128 gig version is about $1,600. 230 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,959 In that case, I would go for it. But let me know what you guys think down below. 231 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,279 If you guys enjoyed this video and want to see what I was talking about when comparing this to the Framework, go 232 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,480 check out the Framework desktop that I unboxed. It actually had a front face 233 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,199 that you could configure with a bunch of tiles, and I put Lionus on there. That's 234 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,199 really cute.