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oh boy it's a web show time yeah

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we got this we got this there's uh that was my showtime a little while ago but

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not a ton of news but there is some news oh there is definitely some news should

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i miss something uh well you enthusiastic i am like

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all upset about right to repair crap right now oh yes okay so there was there

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okay here what what what what is that here uh apple iOS 11.3 updated and left

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some repaired iphones i believe specifically third-party repaired

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iphones with with no touch functionality when i first

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read this i thought it meant like it wouldn't fingerprint you oh okay no the

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screen no no much worse than that we're talking iphones that worked and were

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bricked by software yeah uh california is the latest state to explore net

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neutrality protection after the fcc repeal and google chat is set to rival

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imessage and displace sms okay that i

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really want to talk about too because you know alo

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yeah yeah that whole team was like disbanded now and moved over to this

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okay google just straight up cannot make their make up their mind

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uh okay oh this i plan to talk about for a fair bit so oppo

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oppo digital to be clear oppo digital not oppo is ceasing development of new

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products and if you guys are thinking what aren't they like a gigantic phone

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manufacturer oppo digital is not yeah

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and this is important for a number of reasons so we're going to get into that

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after the intro which will work maybe yeah

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oh oh some people don't like your don't like your color

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my color they're like it looks like an instagram filter

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oh oops oh oh we have sponsors

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that's me

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what do you think okay so here's the problem it's hard to

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tell because this is a gaming monitor

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and whoever's watching might be on i don't know something else something

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else but i i can tell you guys that looking

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at it on my blade anyway um like i kind

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of look like that in person maybe it's a little rich

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maybe it's a little rich it's not that far off though like our

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shirts are actually you know what it's it's not far off yeah um i mean part of

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why we look weird might be that we are really popping out as colorful

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against sort of a more like neutral set will this work

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um i guess that would do that either way but there's a light like like i can

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almost touch it yeah i do that and there's one on that side and i would almost be able to touch this one if my

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arms were long because i wasn't a small human yeah like it's it's a very

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different setup than normal oh i haven't even seen you this week no

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i've been really not even once like what is going on i've barely slept this

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week i went to bed at five in the morning last night

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i skipped my stream on wednesday i'm skipping my stream tonight

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this has been a rough rough week we'll make it though next week is looking good

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yeah if i get if i get everything done this weekend next week is looking good

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okay sweet so this is all Floatplane stuff yeah right okay all right yeah so

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i had what i thought were some really good updates for you and then i think i

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ended up crapping on you you did towards the second half that was great that was

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a good little bump part way through the week yeah yeah

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um so you know it's

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okay there is a lot going well just we're not explaining any of this stuff

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yeah i really talked about most of it which isn't very helpful yeah which is unfortunate we're we're still

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progressing uh things are going well the there's the

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paypal option on the new site should be ready fairly soon there's been a lot of

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minor fixes that have come out there was one that a lot of people were complaining about which took us a little

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while to kind of figure out but the resolution selection was not showing up

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for a whole people with ad block yeah

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it shouldn't matter there's no ads on flow plane it shouldn't matter but for

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some reason that was a thing so uh we ended up fixing that which was which was

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nice well that's i don't think that was to be clear that wasn't something we were doing intentionally no it was just

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it was something to do with the element that is our resolution control

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thing looked like a third-party thing being

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loaded or something like that yeah so that that's now been fixed so that's

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good yeah so then there's been other like there's

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been a lot of improvement things my like personal week like doing the stuff that

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i do was just rough the platform is doing great because my like stuff was

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has been and when paypal rolls around by by the time

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by this time next week by WAN Show next week i think we'll have a new creator to

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announce yeah um maybe two depending on

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whether one of them who i'm just gonna say it who is a little bit lazy

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one of them who's a little bit lazy depending on whether that one gets back

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to me with some paperwork uh whatever i i i would tell that person to

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their face yeah are you asking yeah dog

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he knows what's up hey hey look look i wouldn't say

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everyone's gonna know i wouldn't say anything about anyone on WAN Show

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that i wouldn't say to their face because i know that watching land show

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if they weren't too lazy it was pretty straightforward

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i'm not lazy i don't think anyone's got he's probably just got lots of other

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important things as well look i've i've heard it from this person's manager

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i've heard it from this person directly and i have made i have made my own

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observations about because okay i like this person very much me too

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disparaging very it's not disparaging disparaging has to be untrue okay okay

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very talented creator could probably be much bigger

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if the sleeves got rolled up a little more often wow

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wow that's a compliment that's a compliment kind of

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it's a backhanded compliment it's a it's a pat on the back with a spiked glove

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it's a subset of compliments can we agree on that

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all right oh my goodness um well then all right uh we've got a lot

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of great topics for you guys today i want to hide behind the intro

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i'm coming back i'm coming back i got this oh man um okay why don't why

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don't we jump right into one of our bigger topics of the week so um this one

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the original article here is from motherboard.vice.com

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by the way go ahead and pop this up here sharing in the chat and bringing up on

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screen and talking about stuff is difficult when you're gone thank you for

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coming back oh yeah oh you're very welcome

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there's a lot of stuff to do i was in china last week um that was a lot of fun

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we had a lot of people ask us uh if we were planning a collab with strange

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parts and no

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we weren't planning a collab oh god okay uh yo you know what i guess i guess

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i better just well but no sorry that one was an accident

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the cable management on my mouse is a little tight here i was so excited and

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you made me so sad for such a short period of time okay we were not planning

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a collab but actually i had one of the best in-flight experiences i have ever

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had on my way to china so i did a daytime flight for a change instead of a

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red-eye so i was awake for the plane ride yeah and my wi-fi was

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banging i was getting one megabyte per second

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downloads for like long stretches of what was a

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nine or ten hour flight or whatever it was yeah dawg it was nice to china from

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here yes sir wow and they did warn me that there would be some

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some kind of sketchy spots over russia and over china itself

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but they actually were very short and speeds were just slower not bad okay

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yeah so i was really impressed and so i got a lot of work done i actually got

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something like 200 emails done while i was on that flight including several to

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scotty cool so we actually synced up while i was on my way over there and we

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ended up working out a plan for getting together and what we ended up doing was

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exploring the uh sort of the electronics market in shenzhen yeah cause i saw your

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tweet saying you were doing that with them so i when you said you you didn't

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do a thing i was really confused about it i'm really excited no we we did get

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together it's called uh bay hakwang bay

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whatever okay my chinese is not great i made him say it in the video yeah yeah

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it's just like he seems to be quite good um it's okay

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it's my favorite thing is when he says something i'm like wow i'm impressed and

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then the person like does a little like shuffle back slightly and then responds

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in english and i'm like come on he tried so hard that sounded so good

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ouch yeah so um so we got together and we

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started out just kind of like poking around but what i realized was that

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place is so vast and there is so much stuff in it that

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it is like it's overwhelming yeah like it's

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completely overwhelming like if you want laser pointers that can burn stuff you

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can find that if you want what are apparently really cool microscopes i'm

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not much of a microscope nerd but what are apparently like super cool

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microscopes you can you can get that stuff uh i know lou from unbox therapy

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ended up like going on a shopping spree ultimately but

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i'm not much of a shopper i actually buy

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very little stuff other than like yeah you too yeah oh i

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thought you were j i thought you were gesturing something okay yeah like we're

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both kind of cheap

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so i'm not the kind of person who just like walks into a mall

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and is like oh wow i need to buy all the things my mom bought me this shirt thank

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you mom so what i realized is i needed an objective

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okay so what i found out was that his editor is actually based in mexico

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okay um and is running like a very very like

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very run-of-the-mill and not current gen editing system

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so i was like how about this let's see if we can build a system here

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a video editing system for cheaper than if we just ordered it

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off newegg.com okay so certain parts like graphics cards for

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example mining by the way huge in hwashang bay i know i said it

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wrong i'm sorry but whatever huge that huge in china in general so if we had

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wanted mining stuff then there's lots of selection

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but mining pricing and then the effect that mining has on pricing of components

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like gpus is pretty much sort of what it is it's

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like it's like people who travel expecting to get a deal on a gold

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bracelet yeah it's like gold's a commodity

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it costs what it costs and you can pay in whatever sort of

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rupees or shekels or or

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dong or whatever you can pay in whatever currency you want you're still

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ultimately paying what you're paying um

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so certain components like graphics cards there were not deals to be found

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but then there are other things like i found this like 1600 watt power supply

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that was like 80 bucks oh wow i didn't buy that one because i picked it up and

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i was like oh wow it's far too light for what you're saying there is nothing in there

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but but like cases you would think given that they're

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probably manufactured up the road that cases would be pretty cheap

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um so it turns out cases are actually

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well okay the case is a cool part of the video

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okay you're gonna enjoy that so anyway i was like okay let's build an editing

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workstation for his editor and then halfway through he's like you know what

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screw my editor i'm gonna give the system away to my

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viewers so what i think what's actually gonna

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happen is he's got a video of kind of his side of this whole interaction

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and he filmed so stealthily i even asked him at the end i was like

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did you film anything he's like oh yeah i filmed like most of it i'm like

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wow because you know how he's always doing that stuff whereas he like puts his

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camera on the counter and he's got the like

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that guy is stealthy you're like tall white dude in china

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um so so he's got his side and we've got our side and then he's going to be doing

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a giveaway of the system that we built to one of his viewers because i don't

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know i don't know if people know this in general but he's trying to go full-time

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youtuber i didn't know that yeah like that has been his intent oh okay so what looked

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like just sort of a weird side project was actually just a pretty focused

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pretty smart dude making some super explosive videos to get his channel kick

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started okay yeah yeah if you guys don't somehow know who we're talking about uh

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it's scotty from strange parts you can check out the strange parts youtube

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channel yeah so he's uh more likely to be recognized as the guy who built his

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own iphone out of parts or the guy who sent

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a iphone jack or a headphone jack to an iphone

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all right people are gonna be like people are gonna be flipping their crap okay one

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spoiler we end up with a ryzen system oh

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cool cool yeah all right

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so uh let's go back to what i was planning to talk about which is the new

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iOS update that right right this this is what got me talking about him because he

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his whole thing is like hacking phones apparently so anyway new

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iOS iOS update killed touch functionality on iphone 8

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motherboard.vice.com you guys got to be careful because that looks like iphone

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8s that does that does quite directly look

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like iphone 8 i know it is technically not grammatically correct but if you

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throw an apostrophe in there people will know sort of inherently that you mean iphone

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eights oh it's a comment that's not what they mean

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wow yeah there is no iphone 8s yeah

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i know so yeah if you if you put the apostrophe

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in there like little pro tip it's incorrect but people will know what you

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mean at least yeah or you can do iphone 8 phones or

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something like that but i don't know if that's good for a seo but then they don't have that this is weird yes 8 ass

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is sort of a bad idea anyway so what went down here was wrong

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apple rolled out iOS 11.3 and if you've

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if you've ever sort of looked into right to repair and apple's reputation around

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this whole movement this probably won't surprise you that

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much because they've been known to do things like

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um not provide third-party repair shops with the with the tools that they need

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in order to retain touch id functionality on iphones with replaced

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home buttons and this was far more of an issue with a phone like the iphone 6s

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which had a hardware touch button or excuse me a hardware

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home button that was not solid state so they switched to the solid state button

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with the seven which is much harder to break whereas those those clicky buttons

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now that was a pretty common piece to end up damaged on the iphone leading up

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to that time so so what would happen was people would take it into a third-party

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repair shop and they would have a perfectly authentic button and a

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perfectly authentic phone and they would put them together

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but without apple's special sauce they wouldn't be able to

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make it work even though that has nothing to do with

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the secure enclave that actually holds the fingerprint information this was

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just apple being restrictive because they can be restrictive

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um so anyway the issue affected phones

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that had their screens replaced with aftermarket displays i.e not repaired by

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an apple authorized facility and it is believed to be because of an

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incompatibility between a small chip that controls the screen and the

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aftermarket displays um so it's possible this is an accident

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it is possible that it is something apple did on purpose but either way john

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is saying that our apostrophe thing is not incorrect it's an exception and you

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can put it after a number if it's a single digit oh

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well thank you john martin appreciate that okay so my confusion there though

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would be if it was an iphone 10

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yeah you would say iphone 10s yeah but in text

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yeah but you would say so oh x because you said single digit oh right it's an x

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yeah and that's still not a digit yeah

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so in this case yeah our little thing works for grammatically correct hooray

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the 10's gonna wreck everything go apple

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um so i guess this whole this whole um

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breaching the topic of broaching reaching broaching whatever uh on the

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topic of right to repair um yes

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i will have a response i don't know if you've been following this drama but we

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did a video on how our imac pro is still broken

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um and wow pretty much everyone and their

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dog has made a response one of the news

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articles about it on an apple sort of centric news site has a thousand

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comments on it yeah wow like this went this went viral

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and sort of a very general sentiment the general consensus depends

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on who you ask if people are more of like if they're more in sort of the

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techy uh pc diy crowd they're like wow this is

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ridiculous yeah if they're in the um

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not that crowd cupertino crowd ah let's

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let's call it that if they're in the cupertino crowd then it's my fault for

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not reading the terms and conditions that stipulate that apple doesn't have

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to repair something that has been modified by a third party

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so okay i i actually have a lot of notes made

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for this video already we'll be addressing the vast majority of the

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comments that people have made that's exciting we don't do that that often

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articles that have been written well the actually we wouldn't be doing it except

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that we still need to fix the freaking

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imac pro so that's in progress we are working on

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a solution that will allow us to get parts and fix it okay it's going to be a

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weird solution and we're going to be talking about the hoops that we've had to jump through

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in order to get there some of the hoops that were available that we chose not to

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jump through whether because they were too expensive or too sketchy or whatever else the case

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may be but this this saga is far from

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over cool there is one thing that i absolutely want to address now

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and tell you what i haven't screenshotted anything yet so if you're

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one of the tool sheds out there who posted that this was the reason that

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they denied the repair you can go back and edit your comment and you won't end

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up in the video okay a shocking number of people

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said that even though apple never said this and it's nowhere in the screenshots

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and it's nowhere in the policy and it's certainly not in the video a number of

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people have concluded that apple didn't repair it because the cost of the parts

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i mean you guys totaled this thing the cost of the parts is so high that it's

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more than just buying a new machine anyway so you should just buy a new machine what are you stupid

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okay

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even if all

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of the parts that we listed in the video the display

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the main board and the power supply even

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if they're all dead which they may very well not be you can actually have a

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component short out and

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be protected by the onboard circuitry that does exist

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in some cases if you get lucky you can actually have sparks fly off aboard and

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have it live for years even if all of the components that we

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think could possibly be dead are in fact dead

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that is a 5 000 machine

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you got to be drinking some pretty freaking amazing kool-aid to think that

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a monitor a motherboard and a power supply are

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worth five thousand dollars that's at least a three thousand dollar power

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supply three thousand dollar power supply is that you get get get off my show don't even know here get off my

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show you don't even work here

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that's uh that's fair the CPU alone

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is like five seven hundred dollars yeah the 32

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gigs of ddr4 ecc RAM yeah that has a

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value that's expensive the chassis remember this is an apple chassis it's a

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special chassis that costs money the SSD

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the dual ssds those are still good so people running

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in going well i mean you broke this stuff total

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write-off total write-off that that's why they wouldn't replace it the cost was too high and i had one i had one guy

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being like that's like you know it's gonna be 300 of labor plus the cost of

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these parts is more than the cost of the cyst pretty drunk

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oh man like the amount of like the amount of

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worship that goes on here

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just boggles my mind it baffles me anyway there will be a video

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i promise it will be epic and i don't know if i'm ready to promise

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this yet but we are definitely working on flying mr lewis rossman out here

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to help me put this thing back together okay

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that would be awesome so i have nothing else to say about it until the video

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comes out but it's gonna be fun

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we're gonna have some fun we're gonna we're gonna really cool you know i don't drink but we'll we'll we'll figuratively

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pop some brewskis and fix an imac pro and talk about how that's going and it's

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going to be a good thing it's going to be a good thing i'll drink them for you

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uh yes taran would be happy to drink briskies for me oh my god that that have

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you already started turn that that bullet

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it's all good all right um

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speaking of drinking hey by the way what time do we start tomorrow ten o'clock

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okay i told you i'm just making sure i ordered food for you because you

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didn't order it i've been very busy

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thank you speaking of drinking we actually have a deeper relationship that

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we're forming with madrina's coffee over the next little bit

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uh wait i don't know is this is this out there yet i don't know if uh Colton's

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gonna run down and yell at me if i if i say this

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i think i'm just gonna do it should i just do it i mean i don't work here

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anymore go ahead we are we're apparently gonna be doing

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our own blend oh that's cool yeah really yeah

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cool yeah how is that gonna work um there's a way don't worry okay yeah like

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it's actually less complicated than you might think i don't i know nothing about coffee

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leading us finally

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nope i'm not going to change it i'm just going to leave freshbooks up there and

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then we're going to eat some savage jerky okay and then i'm going to change

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i'm going to leave that savage jerky one on for a bit i'm just i'm going to have

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a time delay it's like rooting through like a treasure chest i know right

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they sent so much maple buffalo bacon and i'm so excited i'm gonna have some

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but i'm gonna have some of the sriracha bacon first i spent lots of uh bacon

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i'm in i meant no i'm not no i'm not sharing that kind though it's for me

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they sent it because they know i like it they didn't send it because they know you like it ed

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maybe if they send even more next time i will consider sharing the maple muff

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buffalo bacon

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yeah actually yeah hold on i'm gonna put this over here

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you know what i'm gonna put it right next to me

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okay so it's not being hidden it's being put in like a high threat area that's

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right you get close you're going to get swatted yo

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no not that like

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what do you think man

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like you know like

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i don't know we're on the platform that that is like popular on

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savage jerky is made with high polishing pretty savage without nitrates or

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preservatives their goal was to create a snack that's full of flavor and not bad

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for you they've got 13 different flavors of jerky

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some of the favorites are sriracha bacon this one's actually really good i don't know if i've tried this one before this

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is really good um they're maple buffalo bacon uh

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traditional uh moho mojo flavors are fantastic

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um aside from jerky they make barbecue sauce hot sauce and a spice rub they're

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carolina reaper hot sauce uses one of the hottest peppers in the world

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the bell haha i think i made that joke before but whatever it's the carolina

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reaper duh it's right in the name and you can use offer code LTT

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to save 10 over at savage jerky.com

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that one really good dang so you're out your bacon can i try

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it yes

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i've technically only claimed the maple buffalo bacon uh-huh

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only one piece i might claim this in the future though really nice

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all right so the original article here is from

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ourstechnica.com but it would appear as though

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california is the latest

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in a number of states that are exploring net neutrality bills to protect net

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neutrality in spite of what's going on

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with the federal government

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so basically they're attempting to restore net neutrality provisions that

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are similar to the ones that were used by the fcc before their recent

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repeal however in addition to prohibiting fast

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lanes throttling blocking and paid prioritization they want to go a step

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further to prohibit zero rating which is

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when the use of a certain site such as netflix doesn't count against a user's

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data cap now

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i have mixed feelings about xero rating

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it sounds cool like at first

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uh the issue with it the big the big issue with it is say

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one of these isps owns a service which is really common um

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they could zero rate their own service so that you subscribe to them instead of

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someone else so john's coming but in the meantime i want to present my

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um he's deleted all his notes i i wanna i wanna okay i wanna present my sort of

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dumb consumer who's very selfish

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sort of point of view and go well i can see things about this that i would

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really like because zero rating can be applied in

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that way where someone like a comcast

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might say that okay you know watching watching shows from comcast who owns

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comcast again or who does comcast own or

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nbc okay so you know nbc streams don't count against your data usage

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but there are cases of zero rating where

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they aren't implementing it on their own services like for example t-mobile

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allows i think it's uh youtube streaming

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doesn't count against your data plan well i mean google doesn't own t-mobile

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and vice versa this is just a handshake deal which

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again on the surface can look really good for consumers

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because hey you can watch all the youtube you want if you're a t-mobile

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theoretically that hurts like twitch and whatever else but

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or some you know young upstart video streaming platform

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hey that has higher bit rates and that

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doesn't have a chance to talk to t-mobile about such an arrangement so

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john's going to tag in for me and talk in a little bit more detail about oh

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that was why you're here right yeah yeah no feel free to explain it in better

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detail than one it was like the last bullet point though

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okay so we're looking at we're looking at the california uh bill on

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neutrality right so okay so um which way which bullet point

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are we on because the last bullet point is here we've we've only gone through a few of them but we've talked about this

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kind of thing on the show before so i think a lot of people kind of know okay essentially what's going on okay so um

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so you talked about zero writing already right yep so okay so um right now the

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bill is at um it got passed by like this little subcommittee or something in

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their uh state house okay um so it still has to be uh passed by both chambers

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signed into law and all that but um both chambers and the governor's mansion

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are currently controlled by democrats who traditionally have been more friendly towards net neutrality so we'll

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see what happens with it um right now isps are unsurprisingly

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opposing the bill and they also might challenge it in court if it does indeed

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become law um there are a number of legal arguments

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they could use to try to get this scrapped and this is interesting not

452
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only because california is such a huge state but since the fcc repeal a few

453
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:52,159
months ago um i think they've gone so far they've gone further than

454
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:57,760
any other states have and trying to have like a real sort of like comprehensive

455
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:59,440
net neutrality law right so

456
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,480
um what i put down here was they might argue um federal preemption or that the

457
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:09,440
bill unduly burdens what is federal preemption so that is when a federal law

458
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:13,039
and a state law come into conflict okay and there's a number of ways that can

459
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,559
happen obviously there are very clear cases where the federal law says one

460
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:20,399
thing and the state law says exactly the opposite so you don't need to be a

461
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:24,559
lawyer to understand that but there's also cases where it's a little bit more

462
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:29,919
subtle this being one of them so what happened when the fcc uh repealed

463
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,080
um the net neutrality protections a few months back

464
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:37,120
they they specifically said we need to return to light touch regulation of the

465
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,399
internet this is exactly what we're doing so

466
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,760
is it really actually preempting anything if and lions is just

467
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,600
going to reach over the desk here and steal some more sriracha bacon jerky i don't blame him that stuff is delicious

468
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:53,120
but uh but it's good yeah

469
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:54,880
okay anyway so um

470
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,960
what was i talking about federal freeze distracting you with this little like

471
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:03,039
bacon grab okay so we just right yeah okay so they're trying to the fcc is

472
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,919
saying they're trying to regulate the internet less give the isps a little

473
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:13,280
more leeway yeah but the question here then becomes is there does that mean the

474
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:18,079
federal government is intending to um in law they call it occupying the fields

475
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:22,399
does the federal government intend to regulate this area so heavily that the

476
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:26,240
states can't do anything about it but in their own order they said we're trying

477
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:30,399
to regulate this less heavily and scrap these net neutrality regulations so that

478
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:34,639
that would be a very interesting like battle in court yeah okay yeah so

479
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:38,720
they're saying like we we we don't want to regulate this as much but they're

480
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:42,079
aggressively not regulating and trying to make sure that no one else can either

481
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:49,119
well i don't know if they're consciously trying to do that but what i'm saying is like when when a big like isp takes the

482
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:53,359
state of california to court and says they can't do this they might try to

483
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,399
argue that the federal government has tried to occupy the field somehow it

484
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:59,680
might not be a great argument but i expect them to try it uh the other thing

485
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,359
they might argue is which they might be more successful with is saying the bill

486
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,760
unduly burdens interstate commerce which is which is a um which is a

487
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:13,200
constitutional argument but basically it's so weird i know right but

488
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:18,240
yeah so but the idea is that one state can't um can't meddle in the affairs of

489
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:23,440
how other states want to conduct commerce between them so okay uh so

490
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:26,560
like if you're if you're importing like let's use a simpler example let's say

491
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,240
you're importing a bunch of bacon jerky let's say the state of north carolina is

492
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:35,119
importing a bunch of bacon jerky um like from another state or from another

493
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,560
country from another state okay um so

494
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:39,599
there actually that would make sense because i think savage jerky is based

495
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:44,320
out of georgia so it will be a quick trip anyway so let's say they're reporting a

496
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,560
bunch of bacon jerky and they have regulations on bacon jerky is that bacon

497
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:53,440
jerky bacon turkey bacon jerky bacon jerky like how to summon Linus so anyway so

498
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,599
let's say there's regulations that the state of nc has on bacon jerky let's say

499
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,800
that they they can't have but so many preservatives they have to be at least

500
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:04,720
you know 95 b for whatever else right this is just a random made up example

501
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,640
yes it's a hypothetical this is not actually real probably shouldn't have very much beef in it

502
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,599
it's friday it's been a long week okay

503
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,640
so so um let's say they have one set of

504
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:22,400
regulations for bacon jerky produced in state and

505
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,839
another set for bacon jerky they're importing from georgia so that would be

506
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,960
that would be against the constitution you can't do that but if the same rules apply to everybody it will be okay this

507
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,240
is a little bit more complicated because i could see at t verizon comcast whoever

508
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,920
else walking into court and saying that even though the law because i actually

509
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:44,880
read the law a little bit and it applies to any isp that has customers in

510
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:48,560
california which makes sense but um they could argue something about oh the

511
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,599
internet is so decentralized and because of that this isn't like just importing a

512
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,040
product or whatever and this is placing an undue burden on interstate commerce

513
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,280
whether that would win i have no idea but i do expect a lengthy court battle

514
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:04,400
so okay so there you have it the internet

515
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:08,079
is not like fake and jerky well thank you john and this has been

516
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:13,119
the legal corner with john i guess happy weekend thanks john yep

517
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:18,240
man the states are weird yeah i know it's trippy i'll never fully

518
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,560
understand how old stuff works 52 or

519
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:23,760
like maybe but not 52 because there are also like territories or something and

520
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,280
then 50 50 states but then like what is what

521
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:32,480
are the ones that aren't yeah what are the ones that aren't states because there's puerto rico yeah guam puerto

522
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,520
rico what are those like called but they're and they're all kind of like

523
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:39,760
little countries except that they're one country sort of

524
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,280
um except when they like want to do things

525
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:47,040
that the the ones running the one country don't like then

526
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:50,160
or that they don't like and then i don't know they can like actually fight about

527
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:53,280
that whereas in most other countries it's just like no this is how it works

528
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,480
that's how it works it's interesting it's confusing for someone who's isn't

529
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,760
from there and didn't like grow up in the system

530
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,440
i think it's confusing for the people there too

531
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:09,680
google chat yeah the original article here is from

532
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:15,200
tom's guide wow so okay you had a comment that all

533
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:20,240
the the aloe team was dissolved and brought over here apparently yes um this

534
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,680
is not the first time this has happened do you think this is the last time

535
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,680
man i don't know what to tell you because

536
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:32,320
uh the article that i was reading about this

537
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,880
basically had like a timeline of the whole

538
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,560
experience of of google and

539
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,599
chat applications going all the way back to i think google talk was the first one

540
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,000
so to give people a little bit of background google chat is a newly

541
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:51,599
proposed thing from google is set to rival imessage and display sms which is

542
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,480
probably the exact same lines that we've had with previous chat applications from

543
00:38:53,839 --> 00:39:01,200
google but they are taking a different approach this time so to be clear this

544
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:06,240
is not google talk turning into g chat turning into oh man was it then

545
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:09,760
integrated with hey uh with google plus and then turning into hangouts

546
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,320
and then aloe aloe and the other one in there was

547
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,200
there another one what was the other one they released like two i remember the

548
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:22,079
last time the most confusing thing was that they released two at basically the same time and they were only marginally

549
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,760
different yeah

550
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:30,400
aloe and like something else i've had a hard time keeping track of exactly

551
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:35,839
what's been going on and yet like i just i find the whole experience of of

552
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:40,800
both sms and chat on Android very frustrating because the feature sets are

553
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:45,599
are divergent in like little stupid ways so for example the messages team like

554
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,960
you know just the default vanilla stock Android i shouldn't say

555
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:54,400
vanilla because that might be in Android at some point like the stock Android messages app

556
00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:59,359
um it's like so back afterwards in some

557
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,720
ways where like like it doesn't have cloud

558
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,760
backup and i'm gonna say here's going around youtube demonetization saying it

559
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:11,200
that way bass ackwards yeah i don't know probably um

560
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:15,680
so it's like it's so backwards it doesn't even have cloud backup which

561
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:18,640
just blows me away that that's not completely automatic when i switch from

562
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:22,000
one Android phone to another one all my sms messages are gone

563
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,760
but that team apparently still exists

564
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,400
because it must have i don't think it was that long ago that they looked at

565
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:35,440
how well a lot of people are busy using facebook messenger because sms is sort

566
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,800
of trashed by today's standards um and basically the only thing they're using

567
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:44,560
sms for is verification codes so when you get your notification from messages

568
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,000
it has marcus red which is like awesome

569
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:52,079
so you never have to touch it again you don't have to click through it to mark it as red you don't have to if you swipe

570
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,599
it away it doesn't stay unread awesome

571
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,000
it is pretty great hangouts doesn't have that gmail doesn't have that

572
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,800
and and pretty much i mean pretty much any app now is just

573
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:08,800
notification spam as far as i can tell and so the ability to mark a

574
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,240
notification as red when it comes in without actually opening the

575
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:16,240
notification very nice if i can the more i can do in

576
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:21,680
the notification tray the better because if i could just do everything i need to without even opening anything that's

577
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:26,319
fantastic so also the the app i was thinking of

578
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,440
was duo which was their video chat thing so they launched alo and duo at pretty

579
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:35,040
much the same time and they were both for communicating yeah

580
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:37,200
okay but this is not

581
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,960
this is not like um like a new app

582
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:46,079
that's just another hangouts or allo replacement or whatever the case may be

583
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:47,040
this is more of a back-end upgrade yeah

584
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:52,240
so they're calling it location services what is this yeah rich communication

585
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:57,920
services so unlike sms it'll support video

586
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,880
uh it'll have red receipts it'll support higher res images

587
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:05,440
and the mobile networks will have to opt in

588
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:07,920
but the idea is that

589
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,960
and you know that's a funny thing to me why do people even care about imessage

590
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:19,200
that much my message is great what are you talking about what's great about it i don't know

591
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,800
it just feels nice it goes quick you can tell what phone

592
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,920
they have which is cool i don't know every time i've had an

593
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:28,960
iphone i like that message right but did it really make a

594
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:33,200
difference to you one way or the other if the bubble was blue or green i mean

595
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,280
some sms sucks as you know how much better really is facebook chat

596
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,800
it's not it's not the only reason i use facebook chat is so my message is great

597
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,599
because it's fine but yeah but facebook chat has a built-in phone book i don't

598
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:48,960
that's what's useful about facebook chat yeah i don't have everyone on facebook

599
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:54,319
right but if you wanted to find someone that's the point of a phone book not an address i don't want to add facebook to

600
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:58,240
having access to all my stuff though you don't have to you just you just search

601
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:00,640
facebook for a person and they're like oh right that person and you contact

602
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:06,400
them like that's what i mean by a phone book not an address book

603
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:09,920
okay like like a directory so that's the only reason i give

604
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,040
any apps whatsoever about facebook you contact that way on facebook i don't

605
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,720
know like people that i like met at badminton once and like want to play

606
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:20,079
with again sometime but i didn't exchange phone numbers with them

607
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,960
wow but i remember their name because it'll come up automatically because

608
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:27,440
they'll be friends with a bunch of other badminton people okay so it'll know like

609
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,160
if i'm searching for andy it'll be like oh yeah probably this andy

610
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,240
even though you don't have them in your contacts i've never used that yeah okay

611
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:38,960
it's like super useful or like if there was someone that you don't go outside so

612
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,560
you ran into at a lan party or something it might know

613
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:47,359
aren't cool anymore i know i wish they were i would love that so it might know

614
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,440
from their association with other gamers that that's the you know tom smith that

615
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:54,720
you were most likely to be looking for so it's just it's it's that's why i use

616
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,720
that that's the only reason i care about that i message other than animojis which

617
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,160
is a completely artificial lockdown thank you apple there's no reason why

618
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,400
you couldn't send an emojis as a video clip in hangouts for example other than

619
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,440
that they just don't want you to um i don't really get it

620
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:14,640
what's so amazing about it maybe people are telling me in twitch chat but there's really there's really there

621
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:18,800
isn't much else though group messages on imessage and whatsapp are much better

622
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:23,359
than sms okay that's fine but whatsapp has that and you can do that on facebook

623
00:44:20,839 --> 00:44:28,480
messenger um imessages end-to-end encrypted sms is open to snooping image

624
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:34,160
is much less creepy okay facebook so if you care about that then you can be

625
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:36,800
using a third-party messaging service

626
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,160
in general because imessage is just automatically turned on and turned off

627
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,160
depending on who the what kind of phone the other person has so it's like

628
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,359
it's it's like only like sometimes running your vpn when you talk to like

629
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:52,160
some people so i don't really get that either why don't you use discord that we're

630
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:58,000
talking about privacy stuff on my computer um okay yes integration with the desktop

631
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:01,280
experience is a good one um

632
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:07,200
facebook messenger same thing whatsapp same thing uh hangout same thing

633
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,000
people are like it just works it kind of does though yeah it kind of

634
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:16,079
does but like and i know it's a funny tagline but it kind of does just sort of work

635
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,680
it just sort of works the way you would expect sms too but it doesn't

636
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,520
okay i mean so then in a nutshell

637
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,640
chat is like a back-end upgrade to sms

638
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,440
that other messaging apps this is cool like samsung's messaging app will

639
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:36,960
support google actually has a fair number of

640
00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:40,079
partners signed and signed on for this thing so

641
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,720
like i mean i guess i'm excited and that's cool

642
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:47,839
but i just um yeah i guess that's cool

643
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,560
i don't know i just i don't feel like imessage needed to be something that

644
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,400
had to be competed with but apparently it does i do and i guess maybe what i'm

645
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,800
forgetting is that a lot of people like when i message my

646
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:07,760
mom she doesn't have whatsapp or facebook messenger even or

647
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,880
anything like to her text messages text message

648
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,480
and so if this upgrades the text message experience that normies are probably

649
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,359
just using by default because they don't know anything else then i guess that's

650
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,760
good but even then we're still not going to have perfect coverage because we're

651
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:26,640
going to be relying on iOS to Android and vice versa

652
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,480
to kind of translate to each other but maybe apple and google will find a way to cooperate on that i'm not sure i

653
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,440
haven't looked into it carefully enough to know if that's oh no yeah right right here in tom's

654
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,920
article uh there's no clue as to whether or not apple will support chat

655
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,280
so there you go it's apparently less secure than apple's own service so it

656
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,880
might be unlikely see that i i don't know it seems pretty

657
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,560
secure it does everything you really need it to do and it works all the time

658
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:55,760
and it feels smooth and nice i don't know i like the imessage

659
00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,400
it was one of the saddest things about leaving an iphone was i was like oh

660
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:05,760
i have to go back to like this weird junk it's just so weird because like

661
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:09,680
when lou did that video at ces where he asked a bunch of creators what phone

662
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,119
they're actually using uh a couple people i think

663
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,119
maybe it was just one i don't know at least one person brought up my message

664
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,359
and like all my friends are on imessage

665
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,599
and so i asked off camera i was like why does that matter what i mean yeah i'm

666
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,400
not sure yeah i'm like okay i didn't use it enough to actually know because i

667
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,480
didn't have an iphone for videos is this just really excellent branding

668
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,720
because even at a tech content creator and i'm not gonna name who they were but

669
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:41,760
a tech content creator tech tuber didn't know why he cared about imessage

670
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:46,720
it's just my my whole thing was it was very smooth it's i like the idea of text

671
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:50,480
messages i like the idea of default apps i've always liked the idea of default

672
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:55,839
apps i like default experiences i like a pixel because it is stock Android i

673
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:00,400
would love to use the stock Android sms thing but it's garbo i still have to use

674
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,520
it kind of because like my upstairs neighbors

675
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,920
bless their wonderful souls use old school text messages um

676
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,480
and it's kind of jank for that um and there are a

677
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,960
few other people in my life that i have to use that for i use

678
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:22,319
facebook messenger for a lot of my stuff but that sucks not only is it like

679
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,880
scraping everything it uses an really

680
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:29,599
odd amount of battery life it's terrible in a lot of other ways got people saying

681
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:32,319
that it's a status symbol yes

682
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,319
okay that's not why i like it but some people do see it that way if you pop up

683
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:39,599
in the imessage with the like i have an iphone color

684
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,720
it's like a positive thing i didn't even remember which one it was i use it for a

685
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,359
very short period of time i did know that i really liked my imessage

686
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:50,000
experience i texted more people when i was on an

687
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,880
iphone because i had imessage and i texted less people when i was on

688
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:57,359
an Android because i didn't have imessage because the stock texting thing

689
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,559
sucks so bad i used to have something called go sms pro

690
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:07,920
like a long time ago when texting was still really popular because the default

691
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Android messaging thing was so garbage um that i got go sms pro but then

692
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,559
something happened there i don't know what it was and they were bad i think i

693
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,839
just hate everyone who has these problems because they clearly have social lives and i don't

694
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:24,319
you know what you're the one that wants you're the one that needs the like

695
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:28,160
those people the address book no what no in in freaking

696
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,480
messenger well i didn't say that because often so many people i didn't say it was

697
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,590
so many you need to look them up i can prove to you that it's like three ever

698
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:38,800
actually

699
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,119
well i'm at zero okay so

700
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:47,119
you're winning by a lot speaking of xero

701
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:52,800
uh that's how many new products will be developed by oppo digital so this was

702
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,880
posted on the forum by uh someone nick

703
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,760
the majin nick the major man whatever that is

704
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:02,160
very sad day oppo and this is uh nick's editorial uh

705
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,839
oppo made the best video players on the market with superb build quality and

706
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:10,079
fantastic customer support guess the market just wasn't there for

707
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,880
the higher end product i love my udp 203 and hate to think that my next player

708
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:18,640
will have to be made of cheap plastic from the likes of sony or samsung so for

709
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:23,839
those of you not familiar oppo was a brand that i already couldn't

710
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:28,880
understand why they existed back in like

711
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:31,760
2012 2011.

712
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,440
um so this is when i was a product manager back at ncix and one of my

713
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:41,440
fellow product managers was gonna bring in these uh high-end dvd

714
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:47,599
players and blu-ray players um with the argument being that they had sort of

715
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:49,520
fancy upscaling technology and and stuff

716
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:53,680
and um they were they were very expensive and i kind of went are you are

717
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:58,480
you effing kidding me like db like high-end dvd players that's

718
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:02,000
that's kind of like that's kind of like trying to sell premium cassette tapes as

719
00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:06,000
far as i'm concerned for which i'm sure there's a market but oh they're totally

720
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:11,200
in the um okay let me come up with something better retro wave how about like

721
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,240
i think it's called retro how about like stylish dad sandals

722
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,359
like okay i would you know

723
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,359
okay um

724
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,920
i'm working on this okay so there's a niche for almost

725
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:30,240
anything but not for this apparently anymore synth

726
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,680
wave or new retro wave they like cassette tapes

727
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,400
okay so we've gotten past the point where

728
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:42,000
anyone or at least enough people to sustain this company care enough about fancy

729
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:46,400
upscaling features and better build quality on their physical media players

730
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,040
now i do still buy blu-rays

731
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:55,520
periodically because it is

732
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,520
it does look a lot better than streaming

733
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:01,520
but man is blu-ray ever going to get replaced

734
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:06,960
like will there be a successor or are we just done i think we're done

735
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,960
huh

736
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,480
i mean it's at the point now where it's just people have kind of voted with

737
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,400
their vault well it's they they want cheaper they don't want higher quality

738
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,720
and it's gotten to the point where i think the cheaper option is so much

739
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:23,520
cheaper that

740
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,880
a lot of people don't think it's worth it so they're still going to be providing support and doing updates but

741
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,200
i mean and at the same time to be fair like a

742
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,920
high-end blu-ray player i think is a little bit harder to explain the value

743
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:41,280
of like a lot of people are going to go with like their playstation yeah or

744
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,440
whatever else xbox one s yeah exactly that's what i'm

745
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:50,480
saying playstation doesn't oh no blu-ray player in the ps4 pro right brilliant

746
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,800
yeah um but like yeah they i i feel like they would go

747
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:57,359
with what how did that hold on i might be i might

748
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:02,000
have that wrong yeah i played a blu-ray in a ps4 pro like

749
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,280
not even a pro hold on i might have that wrong what is the stupid thing ultra hd

750
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:10,160
sorry that was the stupid thing that i that it didn't have xbox one s

751
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:14,000
has support for 4k blu-ray the ps4 pro doesn't i was like wait a minute no no

752
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,359
the ps3 had blu-ray yeah sorry that's pretty confused for you

753
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,040
but uh yeah i think people use an existing device or they would rather go

754
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,880
buy something that can do a bunch of other stuff and play blu-rays

755
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:29,760
instead of something that just plays blu-rays speaking of other things dead

756
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:33,440
Intel's smart glasses group gone

757
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:38,000
the glasses they were working on called vond looked kind of like normal glasses and

758
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:42,880
used a low-powered laser beam to beam images into the eye

759
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,880
so either Intel is giving up on ar for a while or they figured they were never

760
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,640
going to get laser beams into your eye past the regulatory bodies that pay

761
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:56,200
attention to that sort of thing which i think honestly both of those options are

762
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,200
totally valid

763
00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:02,160
because i think uh how is this not a much more major topic well we're talking

764
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:06,319
about this okay uh GeForce partner program

765
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,839
is um well we kind of talked about it a little bit last week but it looks like

766
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:13,359
it's official ASUS has announced the original

767
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:20,720
article here's from hot hardware you weren't here last week uh week before

768
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,200
i don't know okay areas aries there is

769
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:26,880
video cards no i i read the article where it was rumored and i talked about

770
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:32,319
it on WAN Show at some point oh okay but this is it it's official

771
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,520
rog is out for ASUS's high-end gaming

772
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:38,319
products that feature AMD

773
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:45,359
processors so this is aries which is a play on ASUS's aries with an s not a zed

774
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,200
high-end like dual GPU AMD Radeon cards

775
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:52,720
that were like a limited edition uh similar to their mars ones for NVIDIA

776
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:58,079
um so just a summary for those of you who aren't familiar

777
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:02,240
the program rewards partners with perks including marketing funds special

778
00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:05,839
promotions and extra engineering support and ASUS has not gone on the record

779
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,839
saying it joined the program but with the release of ares

780
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:14,319
it is fairly clear that republic of gamers will only be used on GeForce

781
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,400
cards and other products containing an NVIDIA

782
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:24,720
uh processor duh duh

783
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,960
intense have you seen this

784
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:32,240
i have no idea what this is uh yeah it's lame it's just stupid marketing chunk

785
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:38,319
um so yeah speaking of stupid marketing junk um that's it for the wine show yeah

786
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,599
the marketing junk show no

787
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:44,559
there's more to it than that i ate jerky for half of this show yeah i was gonna

788
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:49,839
say we we eat stuff they don't pay extra for that though and drink some water it's just

789
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,000
yummy yup cool

790
00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:55,680
so we'll see you again next week same bad time same bat channel bye

791
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:05,020
i don't know what it is but like i didn't even check the time but it's been like exactly an hour

792
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:12,640
and it's just something about the rancho that takes exactly an hour

793
00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:16,720
i think part of it honestly is james has written so many dogs now no

794
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,359
this was uh john helped me oh yeah

795
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,640
forgot Floatplane dang it no come back we're no we're

796
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:30,480
going back yeah going back coming back it's like a after party but not after

797
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,960
it's like a post party but not i'm gonna i'm gonna

798
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,480
say that we didn't because we technically talked

799
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:42,720
about at the beginning of the show but we didn't highlight the cool things that are on it so we also did

800
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:48,480
here we go oh hang it i would probably yep just a sec

801
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:50,000
there we go hey we're still here

802
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:54,079
i don't know we didn't stop and start right like we're just still going nice

803
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:57,920
my fingers are really jerky though oh i'm not making it much

804
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:02,000
better by licking them and then wiping them on my pants but

805
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,599
um yeah

806
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,839
yes aj you completely saved the day good job

807
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:17,520
all right let's see if i also i noticed that you logged on to uh

808
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,880
battlegrounds at uh 2 58 local time

809
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,720
so we're gonna need to talk on monday

810
00:57:20,799 --> 00:57:27,760
but thank you for saving the day i appreciate it

811
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:32,400
okay then uh screen sharing with Linus

812
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:35,680
let's go ahead and put that there so what do we have up there

813
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,760
oh this is a um Techquickie that is actually a very

814
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,799
unusual looking thumbnail for a Techquickie video

815
00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:47,200
interesting that's an unusual looking host for a Techquickie video actually john's done a lot of the hosting on

816
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,839
techwiki lately and uh the reception's been really good

817
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:55,440
let's go ahead and go back see how that i see how snappy that site

818
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:58,400
is in that beautiful hey here's our hiring video in case Colton gets fired

819
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,839
you can't really tell but he's like cowering it's great yeah yeah it's

820
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,160
pretty wonderful uh this went up simultaneously because

821
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:11,680
there was an embargo super no one cared hey about ryzen 2 really yeah it was

822
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:15,040
like it was not only not like a big momentum spike for the channel but it

823
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:19,839
was like devastating slow down oh yeah wow it

824
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:23,520
like crushed the channel um

825
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:27,359
this one is going to blow up on youtube faster internet for free in 30 seconds

826
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,359
and it works do you know about cloudflare's dns

827
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:35,359
yes yeah yeah yeah so we basically just show people how to change their dns to a

828
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:38,880
faster one okay no that's cool that's cool that's cool

829
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,680
that's cool um i might say

830
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:44,720
snappier well you know what you know you know

831
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,280
what um

832
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:54,880
i won't i won't destroy my principles but

833
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:58,880
i won't compromise my principles but i might

834
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,440
i might be flexible sometimes

835
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:06,880
technically you might be i don't think it's too brutal i don't

836
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,400
think this is far off yeah i think it's fine uh self-driving car levels explain

837
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:14,000
that's another fast as possible that's cool it's really cool because a lot of

838
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,920
people don't realize that there's i think six levels something like that six

839
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:23,599
levels like level four is not actually the end yeah um so that's pretty cool

840
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:27,200
the thinkpad x1 carbon review is up oh i don't know i don't know how much

841
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,079
Intel is going to like this video xeon w

842
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,920
is basically that's fun core i9 with ecc and by the

843
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,079
way here's pay another 700 please

844
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:42,559
um but it's it's still worth watching the video we go into it in more detail

845
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:46,240
this video ended up being like pretty brutal i was thinking it was just gonna

846
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:52,480
be me and dennis kind of like racing to build a pc instead it was dennis trying

847
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,480
to build a pc at all

848
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,920
oh jeez this video is actually fantastic

849
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:03,280
also aj i know i'm just yanking your chain we uh we really mixed things up a

850
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,960
little bit oh my um so we kind of went quick

851
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:10,000
uh so i'm baking i'm baking a laptop cake

852
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:14,400
that's kind of the idea behind it oh and these are all the things you want

853
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:17,040
in a you know yeah okay and so the point that we're making is that we went really

854
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:22,559
far with this just because you have the right ingredients doesn't mean that you actually make a delicious cake

855
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:27,280
wow you might get a couple things wrong you know brutal

856
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:30,960
so we've got the magic transition there isn't that being that beautiful

857
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:37,599
alex actually went and had a custom cake made for this

858
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,599
video dell xps 2018.

859
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:47,520
and we're gonna leave it there okay i haven't seen that i need to see

860
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:53,440
that that's pretty good uh we've got the wearable keyboard and mouse yes so it's

861
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:57,599
a both a keyboard and a mouse and it just fits on your hand like that i think

862
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,160
we're getting into and i think that's uh i think yep that's getting into the

863
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:06,160
stuff that's already released now i think yep

864
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,160
oh also kyle's on the platform yeah

865
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:12,400
so he's got uh that probably went up on the embargo oh wow

866
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:17,359
uh oh yeah okay i that's not fake no it's not

867
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,640
that's real coolant it is that's a problem yep

868
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:23,520
i've seen that so at some point we're gonna get this new button fixed so that

869
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:28,480
you can tell the difference between stuff that's just everything's new everything is new everything ever

870
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:31,839
uploaded is new everything is new it's a new website um new thumbnail but

871
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:39,839
genuinely there are some new things over on flow planning new comment Floatplane.com

872
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,839
someone new viewed it recently