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and welcome to the WAN Show ladies and

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gentlemen we're a little bit late but um at least we got the video done right

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no no we didn't we didn't actually it was all for nothing really frustrated

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but the least that we can do is give you guys an update on what exactly it was

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that had us so gosh darn busy um we're

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finally doing it alex has been chasing me to make this video pretty much since

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he started we are doing a thermoelectric

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cooled computer but instead of doing it kind of the um

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like the the janky way well to be clear it's still janky but

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it's probably the jankiest thing we've ever made but what it isn't is the stupid way of

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doing it true yeah so it's it's it's

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janky but it's like the right way

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but also it it's the right way

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to like do it from a peltier perspective

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but we have this like box that's filled with electronics that's going to have it

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has ac power and like 600 watts going through it and it's so sketchy

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yeah it's pretty sketchy so we've got a great show for you guys today of course

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the big headline is apple allowing third

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parties to repair iphones so we'll get into that we also want to talk about the

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uh some serious nerd drama that's going on with global

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foundries issuing a lawsuit against tsmc so these

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two chip fabs are going toe to toe and

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finally AMD apparently agreed to pay out

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35 per chip over their fx series marketing

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lawsuit that is actually a pretty intro actually all

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three of these have a a ton of meat so let's go ahead and get doug into them

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after we remember for a change to roll that

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intro oh yeah

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and chrono dot gg

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all right so it has been a pretty busy week the

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first thing i saw on the chat there was people were like where's Anthony

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and you know what that's pretty rude i haven't been on wan

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show in a couple weeks and if we just had alex and Anthony doing it then i'd

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feel pretty left out no they met they met instead of you but but actually

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Anthony is really busy so alex and Anthony have both been working on really

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really cool projects this week so alex has been doing the peltier one that we

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just talked about so it's like a what 545 watt peltier

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yeah strapped directly to the top of the CPU unfortunately we didn't quite get

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that one done but at least you got further than Anthony with his

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um but his is really cool too so um

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this gets talked about sort of every once in a while and then the new cycle

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passes and we all ignore it again but i don't know if you even realize

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because you don't do our CPU reviews or really any of our legitimate

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actual you know cooler reviews

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you're more like okay build the most over kill thing with you know

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300 to 1000 watts of cooling capacity

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and then whatever we hook up to it it'll be cool enough don't worry about it

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um but the way that Intel and AMD report

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the TDP so the thermal design power i think it's thermal design power whatever

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it is um thermal design parameter can't

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remember the point is the amount of heat

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that their that their chip is going to output the way that they calculate TDP

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is completely different so

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right now with ryzen 3rd gen and Intel's

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um i guess they call it 9th gen

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though i don't know that it is strictly speaking the ninth gen

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it all depends on how you calculate generations because we've been on

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skylake for a while now according to my watch

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anyway with their current products on both sides

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the way that AMD handles it is they basically do you know all this or am i

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just talking to them no not really okay cool so the way that

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AMD handles it is whatever the maximum

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amount of heat that that chip could output um assuming that it is going it's

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running full tilt that's considered to be the TDP under

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like a reasonable load so if i were to

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if i were to take my my you know ryzen 3 700 whatever processor

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and i were to throw uh you know an egg on top of it

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i can assume that if that thing is rated at a 105 watts

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that i'm getting 105 watts of heat and it's going to take however long to cook my egg

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pretty much because it will turbo as high as it possibly can within its power

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and its thermal restraints or constraints excuse me

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all right so on the Intel side of things now Intel has an eight-core desktop

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processor just like AMD does uh the 9900k and it's rated at a mere 95 watts

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so given that 95 watt rating that thing

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should be easy to cool right yeah sure

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so here's the thing Intel allows that chip to spike up to its max

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turbo and then what it expects it to do what's

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within the Intel specification is for it to ratchet back down so as the

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as the power consumption and therefore the the heat that it is outputting goes

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up and as its temperature climbs it's going to ratchet that down until

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we meet this point that i think it's called p2

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that is the TDP that they rate it for so

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really what it's rated at is its base clock so they're they're they're

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producing or they're using TDP as a guideline for

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anyone who's producing a cooler that will satisfactorily

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cool it at base clock speeds without causing

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thermal throttling which is different from not boosting now that's something

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you have a lot of experience with you want to explain for the people out there

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what is the difference between thermal throttling

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and boosting because you see this in laptops all the time right

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yeah good a good one to think of is like the

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Corsair one so in that

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it's very small and although a 9900k

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can boost to i don't know 4.8 or maybe like 4.5 all core something

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like that it only does like 3.6

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if you hit it for an extended period of time right whereas in something like the

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MSI trident x it hits four 4.3 ish right

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for a continued amount of time because it's cooler right so the point to

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clarify there is that neither of those products necessarily

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thermal throttled they just boosted more or less and that

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MSI product is a great example of a customer of Intel's so in this case it's

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MSI but ASUS actually had a big scandal around this a while back but a customer

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of Intel's basically designed the the

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firmware of their motherboard to operate the chip in a way that Intel

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doesn't necessarily intend for it to yeah

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so they intend for it to do it but only for short periods of time so there was

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that whole thing do you remember back when i thought it was the 8700k was it

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that one or was it 7700k i think it was 8700 think it was 8700k when all the

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review sites had these completely different multi-threaded numbers for

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this chip because some of them were using motherboards that used what's

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called ASUS calls it multi-core enhancement which basically takes that

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elevated clock and then just holds it there indefinitely and others were

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behaving the way that Intel calls for them to behave which is to boost up to

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it and then fall down so anyway

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back to our discussion of tdps the project that Anthony is working on

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involves taking i believe it's a ryzen

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7 30 700x yeah i think so i think that's what

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he's using and then a 9900k where the ryzen 7 3700x is rated at 105 watts TDP

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and the 9900k is rated at 95 watts so on

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paper you as the let's say the uneducated

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layperson consumer walking into a store you look at these two products

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one's got eight cores the other one's got eight cores right yeah one of them

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is clocked at some clock speed and then also it turbos to whatever because

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that's written on the box the other one is at some clock speed and it turbos or

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whatever uh one of them you know what

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i don't want that extra 10 watts on my power bill all the time one of them runs

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you consumes less power and outputs less heat my room gets really warm in the

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summer i think i'm going to go with that one that's 10 watts cooler yeah

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but since it's not an apples to apples comparison and the chips are behaving

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completely differently we think that the way that that's being

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presented doesn't make a ton of sense so do you know much about what Anthony's

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working on yeah isn't it just like you take a liter or some amount i don't

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know if exactly a liter of water and you just

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set it on top in a vial and see how long

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it takes for it to heat up yeah basically so two thermal probes just

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well we actually don't even need thermal probes because we're not trying to we're

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not trying to get as granular as like exactly what is the TDP because then

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we'd need like this thermally isolated environment we'd have

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to make sure we're not losing any of the CPU's heat through the copper traces of

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the motherboard like it's not realistic so what we're doing

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is we're taking apples to apples to the greatest extent that we can in

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comparison so the same amount of water and then we're putting a thermal dye

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inside the water and we're basically going to go all right

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whose dye turns i think it turns from white to black something like that or

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black to white so whose dye changes color first to see if Intel's lower TDP

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rating is actually representative of the

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behavior of the CPU and we're gonna run the Intel one twice once at Intel's um specified oh yes uh

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behavior so we're gonna not run multi-core enhancement and then one

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at the way that i think most enthusiasts immediately flip the switch on their

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cpus in order to get it to run faster

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so i'm really excited about that one but unfortunately we weren't able to get all

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the little details like how do we put um vessels of water on top of our cpus

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without spilling them all over the place securely while maintaining enough

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mounting pressure to have good thermal conductivity etc etc minor details we've

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actually got it all sorted out now but we didn't have enough time to get it shot this morning which was when i had

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time to shoot so stay tuned for that um people are

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asking where is luke like legitimately where is luke he's down at pax

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luke goes to pax every year with his family and now that we actually don't

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cover pax anymore he gets to spend it with his family again there was a period

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of about four years there five years i think where luke was still going to

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packs and he'd like sneak away at night and you know hang out with his family

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and friends and then be back at work in the morning work in the show floor um i

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think that he wasn't always he wasn't a fan i'll say that

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he was not a fan of that arrangement i think he's pretty happy that he gets to just legitimately actually go a ten

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packs now although he's been pretty critical of it over the last couple of

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years and says that it just hasn't been what it used to be but

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that's okay ltx ltx is gonna

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step up well then again at ltx like what

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did he accomplish i think

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didn't he try to like walk from one side to the other to get to something and

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just didn't make it past the entrance yeah i think it was something along those

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lines okay too nice of a guy oh i have an alex pacific question from john why

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uh oh he deleted it oh it was deleted by nightbot what

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oh why was that deleted okay uh john y wants to know what happened to the ricer

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pc i would also love to have a status update on the racer pc

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uh not a whole lot's happened with it uh

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we've been doing a lot of other things like the tech coolers

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and just making videos

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that's about it okay yeah we do have some people that

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are going to make different parts for us i'm just not

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entirely sure who's making which part

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so singularity computers

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yeah i think they offered to do some blocks and stuff didn't they

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um i'm not totally sure okay well we'll not

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like make them do things right now

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yeah we won't sign them up so yeah guys we do still intend to do it

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the good news is we have all the hardware so now it's just a matter of

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in good time um getting all yeah everything measured up getting blocks

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produced planning out the build it is quite a bit

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more complicated to do like a showcase

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level of pc build on something that's running really old hardware that doesn't

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have a ton of support for it anymore um

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so give us time we will do it yeah also the workshop

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is a workshop now there's been like this pretty large period for the past

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couple months where we just couldn't really do projects because

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everything was just in boxes over there so what all is actually hooked up over

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there laser cutter no okay that's covered in destin

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router router's fully operational router's good

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mill um we got the tooling order done

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so it's fully operational minus having everything to cut things drill press

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drill press is good sander

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it's like not bolted down but it's it's

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okay okay so basically we're getting there yeah okay lathe tooling arrived in

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the u.s so we seem to pick it up

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great so guys give us time give us time um

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all right speaking of giving time let's uh let's give you guys the thing that

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you came for in a reasonable amount of time see i brought it around uh apple

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announced his independent repair program uh link boy on the forum posted this and

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the original source of the news is naturally

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apple themselves so let's see how apple

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puts their spin on this apple offers customers even more options

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for safe reliable repair it's funny that they're branding third-party repair

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businesses as safe and reliable when for so long

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the line was that they weren't new independent repair provider program

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expands genuine parts access to more repair businesses

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all right so let's go through sort of the the key points here

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um they announced new repair program offering customers additional options

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for the most common out of warranty iphone repairs

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apple will provide more independent repair businesses large or small with

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the same genuine parts tools training repair manuals and diagnostics as its

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apple authorized service providers or aasps

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this is a quote so when a repair is needed a customer should have the

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confidence that the repair is done right we believe the safest and most reliable

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repair is one handled by a trained technician using genuine parts that have

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been properly engineered and rigorously tested so here's what i want to know

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why didn't apple want the kiosk in the mall to have decent parts before because

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it's not like the kiosk in the mall was ever going to go away

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so at the end of the day your customer apple

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your customer was going to go there and they were

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going to have either a really great experience by sheer blind luck

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because you guys certainly didn't put any effort into

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making that experience any smoother so you got lucky if they had a good time

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or that customer was going to have a bad time and you know whose customer that is

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yours so i mean

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they get applause they just don't get like okay they get slow applause for

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finally yeah gal i like that give up the golf clap

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um okay i don't ah see i i fall into this

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trap sometimes where when a company finally does the right

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thing you still get mad i still get mad because

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they did the wrong thing for so long and it's all this like pent-up frustration

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but i shouldn't i shouldn't get mad about this

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um with that said there's okay i should i

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shouldn't get mad about the good parts of this because there's still parts of this that i can get legitimately mad

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about so uh there's a couple things here the program is only going to allow

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independent repair shops to offer out of warranty service for iphones

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such as display battery replacements there is no mention of in-warranty

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repairs or other devices so mr rossman

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over there is not going to be getting diagnostic manuals for macbook pros

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anytime soon as far as we can tell

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and this is another really important point of clarification

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apple has not announced along with this program any kind of um

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uh any kind of process for general consumers to gain access to

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genuine parts to conduct their own repairs

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so yeah i think it's the out of warranty

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service that gets me the most because

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where this probably means the most to a lot of people

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is like out in the boonies where like

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buddy knows something about tech but doesn't have the right tools

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and so they could just give them the right tools because like i don't know if

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you're living in labrador you're not going to get to the genius store like

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you you speak as though uh you you know this from experience

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i don't know if people know where you're from

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nova scotia yeah which isn't quite labrador but like from our perspective

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it's been they only got an apple store there like pretty recently yeah

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and so sort of thing where like you can go to lots of places to get your

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stuff fixed but like i don't know most times just like a high

00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:15.120
school kid that has some spudgers so i'm gonna i'm gonna

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play devil's advocate here and i'm gonna say i totally get it if you're not a

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fully certified apple authorized repair center i don't see them offering you a

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warranty on the thing that was opened up by some random person that is fair

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so i get that side of it but i'm still

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really frustrated that as a consumer so like from a from a just right to repair

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right to repair doesn't mean right for

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some specific person to repair it means that if i have the know-how and the

00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:52.400
inclination to work on upgrade or repair my own devices

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i should have access to the same manuals the same

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tools the same diagnostic utilities that

00:19:57.360 --> 00:20:02.559
anyone else would because why not

00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:08.559
they're going to be out there anyway especially now that they're opening up

00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:12.400
this program like if they imagine for a second that they're just going to

00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:16.880
certify a bunch of like random mom and pop shops in the philippines and these

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manuals aren't going to be all over torrent sites everywhere like come on

00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:24.720
come on just formalize what's already happening

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so that we don't have this like black market of apple

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pcb schematics like i'm serious oh yeah it's that crazy

00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:38.480
like there's like honestly speaking

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if you want like a brand new apple product you either have to get stolen

00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:47.120
blueprints for it if you want to figure out like you know

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what every what every sense pin is connected to

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or i mean you'd have to i don't know you'd have to

00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:57.600
rip apart a working device and like x-ray the thing and try and try and

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reverse engineer it basically apple's pre i mean

00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:02.799
that sounds fun yeah

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so anyway anyway anyway in apple's defense again let's get

00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:13.760
positive again for a second here the certification process is simple and free

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of charge but meeting the requirements

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which is basically that you have to have an apple certified technician who can

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report perform the repairs does not guarantee acceptance into the

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program and apple reserves the right to reject any application without telling

00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.039
you why

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wait should we do should we do something on this

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we could have we try to apply to b1 yeah we should have like three or four people

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:46.159
just apply and see how many get in i think Anthony used to have his apple

00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:50.320
certified crap hmm i wonder if we could like get him get

00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:54.000
him like uh like get him um

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that's what i'm looking for like get his certifications refreshed

00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:02.000
and uh try and see if Linus media group

00:21:59.919 --> 00:22:06.400
incorporated can become an apple what what are they calling it again uh

00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:10.559
apple independent authorized service no no no we wouldn't

00:22:08.320 --> 00:22:15.200
become an asp for sure but if we could just be like an iphone an iphone service

00:22:13.280 --> 00:22:19.600
whatever get like our get our iphone manuals and stuff

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:23.039
that would be cool we'll just set up shop and like unit 105

00:22:21.760 --> 00:22:26.799
or whatever people can just pull up we do have a

00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:30.880
pretty legit like rework area i know right yeah not that apple is letting

00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:36.000
shops do anything like that anyway you're basically just doing screen repairs and battery replacements but uh

00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:42.559
maybe this is part of the lash back around apple's whole stupid thing where

00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:46.960
they were taking even first party batteries and giving you like a battery

00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:51.679
service notification in iOS do you hear about this no i didn't okay so pretty

00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:55.919
much a recent change made it so that if you swap your battery even if you take

00:22:54.000 --> 00:23:00.880
two identical iphones and just swap the batteries between them

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so all apple first party parts

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they would give you a notification in iOS that says your battery may require

00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:12.159
servicing because they're tying the serial number of the phone to

00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:14.720
uh like a serial number in the battery

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so they're they're doing that so that it's easy to tell

00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:21.679
if a phone was not battery swapped by an

00:23:19.919 --> 00:23:25.679
apple authorized party because apple authorized parties

00:23:24.080 --> 00:23:29.280
are able to reprogram the chip on the battery so that it'll match the phone so

00:23:27.280 --> 00:23:34.640
you won't get that error so they got a ton of backlash for it because like yo

00:23:31.760 --> 00:23:38.960
guys yeah for serious business at this point what are you even doing like it's

00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:41.760
bad enough you make it so hard to swap the battery now i've gone i've done all

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:46.320
that work this stupid error come on so it looks

00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:51.120
like they're just expanding the network of people who can do it legitimately

00:23:49.840 --> 00:23:55.120
that people who repair things themselves

00:23:53.120 --> 00:23:59.280
still have to deal with this crap yeah um

00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:02.320
anyway it's uh so this follows apple's recent expansion of this authorized

00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.240
service network into every best buy store in the u.s which actually tripled

00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:09.440
the number of usasp locations compared to three years ago which is great but

00:24:07.360 --> 00:24:12.960
the us really isn't um the

00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:18.840
biggest problem um it's other places like labradoodle or

00:24:15.360 --> 00:24:18.840
wherever you're from

00:24:19.919 --> 00:24:27.039
i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry look look look i'm not going to be one of those elitist

00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:30.559
you know torontonians or whatever they call themselves i'm aware

00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:35.679
i'm aware that there are other parts of canada okay

00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.679
i just don't care

00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:42.400
sorry we have this okay for those of you are not canadian we have this like

00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:47.600
inferiority complex over on the western side of the country because we like were

00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:51.520
settled later like we didn't even get a railroad until i don't know 80 years ago

00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:56.880
or something like that i'm kidding it was longer than that but it doesn't matter the point is we have like this

00:24:54.640 --> 00:25:01.760
inferiority complex because our government and the vast majority of

00:24:59.360 --> 00:25:05.840
our population are all thousands of kilometers away and

00:25:04.080 --> 00:25:10.640
sometimes you know the decisions that they make uh for the direction of the

00:25:08.159 --> 00:25:14.559
company company the country don't really have a lot to do with the concerns of

00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:18.080
people over here so we just feel kind of ignored you know it's like

00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:23.279
oh you know what's canada's baseball team

00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:27.360
well toronto whatever they're called it's a bird or

00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:31.200
something you know what's canada's basketball team i don't

00:25:29.679 --> 00:25:36.480
know some other bird um oh it's like

00:25:33.600 --> 00:25:40.720
i i i know i know it's a dinosaur raptor not a bad raptor but the blue jays

00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:44.000
aren't a dinosaur yes it is it isn't shut up it is that's hot enough for your

00:25:42.159 --> 00:25:47.600
crap birds or dinosaurs okay you can you can make that argument

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:52.559
but that's up for a com that's a different podcast you go you go talk

00:25:49.840 --> 00:25:56.000
about that on some other podcast um

00:25:53.679 --> 00:26:00.720
how did we get on this uh oh right the point was that the u.s

00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:07.039
is not the main concern most people in the u.s compared to rural parts of you

00:26:03.600 --> 00:26:09.279
know russia or something have relatively

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.400
easy access to an aasp and i'm not saying it's perfect

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:16.080
everywhere i'm just saying that right now the program is only launched in the

00:26:14.159 --> 00:26:19.600
u.s with plans to expand to other countries so it's clearly not a complete

00:26:17.520 --> 00:26:24.000
solution but it is a step in the right direction i just always question apple's

00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:28.880
motives when they do stuff like this is it a step in the right direction as part

00:26:26.159 --> 00:26:31.600
of a greater movement towards a more consumer

00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:37.279
focused attitude or is it a step in the right direction

00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:42.320
to appease people and make them shut up while they continue to march in

00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:47.840
completely the opposite direction as a more general rule for their business

00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:54.000
behind the scenes which one do you think

00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:55.679
are they getting more consumer-friendly

00:26:54.000 --> 00:27:00.240
yes but are they doing it out of the

00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.240
goodness of their hearts

00:27:00.320 --> 00:27:07.279
probably both you think so wow

00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:09.840
like it's not like entirely out of the

00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:15.440
goodness of their hearts but you know it's the kind of thing where

00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.440
it's a bit of both

00:27:16.080 --> 00:27:22.240
what are what are people saying john wick says quebec feels ignored don't

00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:27.120
complain dude quebec does not get ignored quebec complains so loudly

00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:30.640
that like we can't be heard over their noise and i'm not saying quebec doesn't

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:34.960
have legitimate grievances i'm just saying that to say that quebec gets

00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:39.440
ignored is um a very quebecois thing to say

00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:44.320
uh what can i do for you nick uh did you talk about the new shirt you guys are

00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:48.320
still talking about apple so i actually have not talked about the new shirt i

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:52.720
can i can talk about the new shirt uh sponsors time we have a new shirt yeah

00:27:50.080 --> 00:27:57.360
you know what let's start with ourselves so this episode is brought to you by

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um anyway we launched a new product today this is the RAM t-shirt what's

00:28:09.919 --> 00:28:12.799
that on the front of it

00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:18.399
wow that is a great picture of david

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did you see this yeah his punch oh yeah that is fantastic wow

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we have so many models here now

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that's awesome look this flasher guy

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what else can i do for you nick we'll have uh stealth back in next week

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right yeah stealth hoodie is out of stock we know swackitt is out of stock

00:29:16.320 --> 00:29:23.039
we know we didn't order enough honestly swackett

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did so much better than we could have possibly expected like we

00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:31.440
we started that project like nine months ago or something stupid like that this

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one right here um and we ordered 500 of them thinking that

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like that was gonna be absolutely nuts and we might have a hard

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time selling them all because the store so far had not sold

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like anything yet i don't think i think we'd sold like a handful of t-shirts or

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something like that and we sold out a swag in like two weeks so you guys are

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freaking awesome um thank you for your support i guess it helps that we actually

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launched an item like in season for a change like stealth hoodie we launched

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in the middle of summer like the weather is heating up we're

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like yeah get a hoodie whoa

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where's swag it's like right in time for the fall so that's coming back in the next i think what three or four weeks

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slacking yeah i don't have a time oh never mind no eta but stealth's coming

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i have never actually heard of this game i don't know kind of reminds me of have

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a hotel complex man oh it's a space station sim

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yep that seems like the kind of thing that people would play a lot

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:14.000
and then get completely consumed by all right in other news this week global

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.919
foundries has issued a lawsuit against tsmc and

00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:23.760
if you guys don't already know how high drama this whole situation is

00:34:20.720 --> 00:34:25.119
i'm gonna skip straight to tsmc's

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:29.599
response to uh

00:34:27.839 --> 00:34:34.800
here it is let me see blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:38.480
blah oh man oh yeah that's ruthless i don't think where is it where is it in

00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:38.480
here

00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.079
there ah yes okay this is great

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:49.040
um oh no that's not even it oh that's

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.760
hilarious okay no that was from um a tech analyst

00:34:50.240 --> 00:34:55.520
significant damages you know what i don't think it's in my notes so do you want to start walking people through

00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.119
what's going on here while i find this quote it's fantastic

00:34:57.359 --> 00:35:02.640
um so i don't really know the details but

00:35:00.839 --> 00:35:06.480
basically that's fine you just read the thing and pretend you know

00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:11.440
global foundries has filed lawsuits against taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company in the u.s and

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:14.079
germany over alleged infringement on 16 patents

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:18.079
the company said they're looking to halt the import of processors maybe the

00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:23.920
technology and is seeking to or and is seeking significant damages

00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:26.560
from tsmc based on tsmc's unlawful use

00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:31.920
of gf's for priority technology in the tens of billions of dollars of sales

00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:40.480
um basically it'd be really bad because NVIDIA apple

00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:41.520
um doesn't AMD also use them

00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:47.440
pretty much everyone that makes fast things now uses

00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:52.960
tsmc global foundries fell a little bit behind um and when you file a little bit

00:35:50.560 --> 00:35:57.040
behind in semiconductor manufacture you're in trouble yeah you're basically

00:35:55.040 --> 00:36:00.960
done um

00:35:58.720 --> 00:36:05.760
uh so like what even happens if this goes

00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:09.119
through like do we just do we have like the titan rtx and it's

00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:14.640
like suddenly gold because you can't get any more or something um realistically

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:18.480
like this kind of thing comes out all the time where you know

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:22.880
i mean back when uh back when apple and samsung were going toe-to-toe over the

00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:26.720
original galaxy s vibrant and how it looks just like an iphone and all that

00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.240
kind of stuff and you know they'll seek sales and junctions or whatever the case

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:34.640
may be like sales bans the reality is that it usually takes so

00:36:32.720 --> 00:36:37.520
long to be processed that any product that would be affected

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:43.119
by it is long gone from store shelves before anything

00:36:41.040 --> 00:36:47.200
actually happens and this is more it ends up a lot of the time being more

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:51.359
about posturing than anything else now the unfortunate thing about this

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:56.000
situation is if it just covers anything made by tsmc

00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:01.040
yeah it could actually affect your ability to buy

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:06.720
a NVIDIA graphics card in any countries that will that will

00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:08.560
uphold um this kind of a ruling

00:37:06.720 --> 00:37:13.119
it could create like a black market for graphics cards that are like

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:16.400
manufactured in taiwan sorry the chips manufacture so the chips

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.920
are manufactured under one the cards are assembled in china and then they're like

00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:24.320
you know shipped through india or something and then like snuck into port

00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.079
and the us or whatever well it says u.s and germany so maybe we can just get a

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:30.400
bunch and we're pretty close to the border

00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:35.760
not an actual business strategy don't you

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:41.040
i was uh someone found the threat found the uh

00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.960
the quote in the thread on our forum

00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:46.560
but i'm having a really really hard time finding it

00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:50.640
ah tsmc because um

00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:54.160
oh dang it i hate this i'm so mad okay

00:37:54.400 --> 00:38:01.599
in a nutshell they basically said

00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:04.880
yeah we're going to defend ourselves and we think it would probably be a good

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:09.040
idea if they would just focus on making better

00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:13.520
products than resorting to this kind of um

00:38:12.720 --> 00:38:19.040
you know patent infringement lawsuit crap

00:38:17.359 --> 00:38:23.200
in a nutshell oh maybe it was the other

00:38:21.359 --> 00:38:27.680
thread nope that was just page two dang it all right whatever i give up

00:38:26.720 --> 00:38:32.640
so i guess that's pretty much uh i guess that's pretty much all we have to say

00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:37.520
about that yeah that would be bad yeah good luck

00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:41.920
global foundries uh seems like they must be pretty desperate so in august 2018

00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:45.680
they ceased development of their seven nanometer process to focus on being a

00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:49.599
specialty foundry which is i guess another way of saying that you can't

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:52.720
compete at the bleeding edge so you're just going to go out there and

00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:56.400
find customers that don't need their products manufactured

00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:59.599
on the bleeding edge and like that's fine there's plenty of customers for

00:38:58.160 --> 00:39:04.240
that out there um it's just

00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:06.880
it's like going for venture capital or like getting venture capital and being

00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:11.280
like you know i just kind of want the loan for my parents yeah

00:39:12.839 --> 00:39:18.720
ouch right what else we got here oh this is a big one

00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:23.280
so this was posted by rainbow dash on the forum not the real rainbow dash of course uh

00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:28.240
the original article here is from the register.co.uk

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:33.920
but AMD has agreed to play to pay purchasers of its fx bulldozer

00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:36.400
processors a total of 12.1 million

00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:43.280
dollars to settle a four-year false advertising lawsuit that works out

00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:44.640
to about 35 a chip um oh man i remember

00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:48.400
this great um

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:57.359
Intel used to have some really edgy advertising back when they had this like

00:39:51.359 --> 00:39:59.680
we are unassailable swagger going on um

00:39:57.359 --> 00:40:03.040
so this was a little bit beforehand let me see if i can find the image

00:40:03.680 --> 00:40:08.880
oh that's a shame i just remember they sent

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:13.359
us this advertising collateral back when i was working at ncix

00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:17.760
back when AMD was advertising their triple cores which were basically

00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:21.359
uh failed quad cores that had one of the cores disabled and what was cool was

00:40:19.520 --> 00:40:25.280
that in many cases they could be re-enabled

00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:28.960
and Intel sent over this ad collateral that said like

00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:34.400
um more is not necessarily better or something like that and it had like

00:40:31.680 --> 00:40:38.000
a like beefy looking chopper motorcycle that was blue

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:42.320
and then like a green or red i forget whether AMD had switched over to red yet

00:40:39.520 --> 00:40:49.599
at that point but a tricycle next to it and i was like oh you guys you so edgy

00:40:45.359 --> 00:40:50.960
anyway the whole core marketing for AMD

00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:56.079
ended up getting them into trouble because they went from the fx

00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:02.160
oh man i'm trying to remember sorry it was the phenom 1100 t was their flagship

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:05.760
six core processor and that was based on their

00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:10.560
steamroller i'm sorry i'm a little bit i'm a little bit hazy on my

00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:14.319
eight-year-old code names but the 1100t was an unlocked six core processor

00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:18.880
phenom black edition or something along those lines and it had

00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.079
um from like uh from like a

00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:26.880
traditional sense so it had both floating point and integer units for

00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:34.000
each of those six cores then AMD launched the world's first

00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:36.720
eight core desktop processor the fx i

00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:42.079
think it was 8150 was the first one do you remember any of this all right don't

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:45.839
worry about it fx 8150 but

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.520
the problem with the fx 8150 was that it

00:41:45.839 --> 00:41:54.560
didn't have in the same definition that AMD had

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:55.359
previously used it didn't have eight

00:41:54.560 --> 00:42:00.160
full cores so i think it only had eight

00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:04.000
integer units um but then only four

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:09.040
floating point units or something like that yeah yeah is that is that right yeah that's

00:42:07.040 --> 00:42:13.040
right okay and crucially a single floating point you know yep yep so what

00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:18.000
that meant was that for certain workloads

00:42:14.560 --> 00:42:20.079
certain workloads it did actually behave

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:25.760
kind of like an eight-core processor but for other ones it only had the horses

00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:29.440
under the hood of a quad-core processor and they were advertising it as an

00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:34.480
eight-core processor when the entire rest of the industry which is

00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:38.960
AMD at every point previously though to be clear if we go back far

00:42:36.319 --> 00:42:44.000
enough uh cpus used to have things like cash off board so

00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:47.680
let's ignore that era but everyone including AMD and of course Intel had

00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.800
sort of decided that a CPU core needed to have

00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:55.040
both a floating point and an integer unit

00:42:55.520 --> 00:43:02.000
so in january this year a california judge rejected AMD's claim that a

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:05.359
specific significant majority of people understood the term core the same way it

00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:10.319
did and uh based on the results of a poll of

00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:14.720
the register readers it appears most c-cores in the same way as the litigants

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:21.440
so 47 said a core should be fully independent whereas a mere 28 were rabid

00:43:18.319 --> 00:43:23.839
AMD fanboys and said that it can share

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:30.640
execution engines so this has led to um both AMD and the

00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:33.520
plaintiff's lawyers oh this this is great uh this appears to be some

00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:36.960
editorial from the register there they said the insanity that is class action

00:43:35.359 --> 00:43:41.520
lawsuits has led both AMD and the plaintiff's lawyers to argue to the

00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.200
judge that 12.1 million is a fair amount

00:43:41.520 --> 00:43:49.520
despite the fact that consumers paid an additional 60 million in premiums for

00:43:45.839 --> 00:43:49.520
their eight core processors

00:43:49.839 --> 00:43:55.839
i don't know this is honestly kind of a tough one for me because i really do see

00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:00.880
it both ways on the one hand

00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:05.520
yeah it was kind of bs but on the other hand is it really any more bs than

00:44:04.720 --> 00:44:12.000
you know NVIDIA calling their gpus 2000 core

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.680
processors like they call them cuda cores but

00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:20.079
they're not cores in the same way that a CPU core is a core like get real

00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:27.760
yeah you have to read the fine print on this stuff it's highly technical stuff

00:44:26.319 --> 00:44:34.240
for me i thought that it was like pretty greasy like i know when i learned that it was like

00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.599
only half actual cores 1.5 of course

00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:41.200
yeah because like a lot of stuff uses fpu like

00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:50.400
yeah i don't know i guess also kind of like

00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:51.680
not many things use a cores even now so

00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:55.760
i don't know how much of a difference it would have made but

00:44:53.839 --> 00:44:58.000
it just i don't know it just

00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:03.599
doesn't sit right with you know what here's what i want to know

00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:03.599
let's create a straw poll here

00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:12.560
i want to hear from you guys but here's the trick i only want to hear from you

00:45:09.839 --> 00:45:15.119
guys if you actually bought that means real money

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:18.640
when it was new so i'm not talking like

00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:22.400
your buddy was getting rid of his fx when he upgraded to

00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:27.839
something better or whatever i'm talking you bought brand new from a store a

00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:33.560
bulldozer processor an fx a core processor and i want to know do you feel

00:45:30.240 --> 00:45:33.560
ripped off

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:40.079
no not maybe do you feel ripped off because really when you when you calculate the damage of a class-action

00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:43.359
lawsuit it's more about the money so

00:45:41.359 --> 00:45:48.560
or it's more about that it's about the false advertising so would you have made

00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.560
a different decision

00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:55.040
would you have bought something else

00:45:53.119 --> 00:46:00.880
because here's the thing core advertising or boost clock speeds

00:45:58.560 --> 00:46:05.200
or whatever the actually yeah the TDP discussion that we had earlier is

00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.280
another perfect example of just

00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:10.240
if you just read the box of a CPU knowing that this is a highly technical

00:46:09.200 --> 00:46:13.680
product you kind of got what was coming to you

00:46:12.319 --> 00:46:19.440
so core processing or core counts aside and advertising

00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:23.280
aside any computer purchase should come down

00:46:22.319 --> 00:46:28.079
to benchmarks anyway

00:46:25.680 --> 00:46:32.000
not down to the specs because the specs are ultimately pretty much meaningless

00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.560
all right i'm going to go ahead and dump this in the youtube chat

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:42.800
i actually don't know where to find the live video on our channel here

00:46:39.680 --> 00:46:43.680
oh there it is wow that was easy neat

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:50.640
yeah i would say framed like that i am a no

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:54.800
like i don't think that it would change how i thought about it so you

00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:59.280
would have just done your research and made a decision based on the raw

00:46:56.319 --> 00:46:59.280
performance of the thing

00:46:59.839 --> 00:47:06.160
yeah right and like

00:47:04.319 --> 00:47:12.400
for a lot of things do you think it really makes a difference like

00:47:10.240 --> 00:47:16.800
not i don't know like as uh as an educated consumer no it made no

00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:20.400
difference to me whatsoever how AMD wanted to advertise their stupid thing

00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:29.200
um i knew that it performed like hot garbage literally hot garbage

00:47:24.560 --> 00:47:29.200
and so i was not interested in it um

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:34.800
but i guess like sometimes i can be kind of out of touch in that sense you know

00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:38.160
it's funny i had someone call me out of touch but i think it was

00:47:36.560 --> 00:47:41.680
i think this was not the way that they meant it because we talked a little

00:47:39.680 --> 00:47:44.560
while about how user benchmark i think it's called oh yes how i had never heard

00:47:43.359 --> 00:47:48.880
of that before like you're so out of touch must be nice

00:47:46.720 --> 00:47:52.560
to just have all that stuff on hand so you can test it yourself

00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:56.720
i'm like no i didn't always have all that and i

00:47:55.040 --> 00:48:00.319
still didn't resort to like what's that other stupid site like

00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:07.280
GPU check or something like that where like you know anytime you google like

00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:10.640
1080 ti versus ti stupid garbage these

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.800
garbage town websites that just like

00:48:10.640 --> 00:48:17.599
count cuda course basically and say which one is better like that's not how

00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:22.000
you research hardware i didn't have to have all this stuff to be able to figure

00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:25.680
out how things perform relative to each other you just go out you look for

00:48:23.839 --> 00:48:29.599
independent reviews of them you find numbers that

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:34.160
match and then you can use that to compare something that was never

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.319
directly compared so if one review has a

00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:39.520
direct comparison between a 3700x and a 9900k

00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:45.040
and then another review has a comparison between a 3700x and

00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:46.960
9400 no it's not that hard it's not that hard

00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:51.920
you have to be willing to put a little bit of work into it the point is you can

00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:55.599
compare 9900k to 9400 as long as the thing that they have in common

00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:00.000
sort of agrees it's pretty close yeah but you're thinking of like someone that

00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:06.400
gets that not the sort of person that's like oh like how does a gtx 760 compare

00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:11.440
to i don't know uh

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.680
1050 like you just type that in no no no

00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:18.000
no it's like it's not very difficult for like you or me

00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:24.240
to like figure how it all matches up yeah because you just have to go find reviews

00:49:21.200 --> 00:49:26.800
of like the 960 and then also the 1060

00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:30.720
and you can bridge the gap yeah it's not all that difficult

00:49:29.359 --> 00:49:33.760
but if the first search result that comes up is like oh this one right here

00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.760
is however many percent faster than the other one you're just going to click that you're

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.599
going to use the number and you're going to be like okay yeah

00:49:39.839 --> 00:49:45.119
all right we've got our results i'm so sorry Floatplane um we were already

00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:51.599
really late for the show and i didn't have time to sign in so i didn't check your chat uh and i didn't post it there

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:54.960
i feel terrible you guys are great um

00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:58.480
speaking of chats um uh what's his name um

00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:04.160
robert mayhall i'm sorry that i said that wrong sent us the tsmc quote

00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:08.960
oh super chat oh where is it it's right here oh this is great thank you robert

00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:12.880
we are disappointed to see a foundry pier resort to meritless lawsuits

00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:15.760
instead of competing in the marketplace with technology

00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:22.000
tsmc is proud of its technology leadership manufacturing excellence and

00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:26.720
unwavering commitment to customers so basically they just said

00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:30.640
if it's too hot in the kitchen then get you know get your ass out

00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:36.880
yeah sorry you're not good yeah sorry not sorry

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:40.160
so this is interesting it split i wouldn't say down the middle

00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:44.880
but it's a lot more even than i would have thought so 40 of people would have bought

00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:47.839
something else with just shy of 60 saying no they would have bought exactly

00:50:46.319 --> 00:50:51.040
the same thing because they probably did all the same research that yeah we would

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:54.359
normally do and knew exactly what it was that they were buying

00:50:55.119 --> 00:51:02.960
i don't know it's a funny thing because from my perspective i don't really care

00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.960
that much about like

00:51:04.160 --> 00:51:11.599
jesus was in here earlier this week talking about how they were the first to have a 120 hertz laptop and i was like

00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:17.839
okay but i would never buy something because

00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.079
of a manufacturer like being like look how cool we are

00:51:20.160 --> 00:51:26.319
what do i care about that how many FPS do i get in my game shut up about that

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.480
other stuff so

00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:33.760
yeah i just i can find that kind of thing looks like confusing

00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:40.400
all right so we should see if there's any anything else that we wanted to uh talk about real quick oh yeah this is

00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:44.880
something that just sort of bothered me i don't know why they did it um

00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:49.920
this was posted by jc helios on the forum oh yeah the original article is

00:51:47.359 --> 00:51:52.640
from nine to five google and uh mine go ahead i don't know this just really

00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:57.599
annoyed me i have no idea why they did it yeah i was this happened to me like

00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:04.240
very recently i was just trying to find a wallpaper for like a secondary pc

00:52:01.040 --> 00:52:06.319
and i went into google images and the

00:52:04.240 --> 00:52:09.520
search by exact size or larger than where you can like type in the numbers

00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.680
it's just gone so

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:18.880
i don't know that's about it but i'm just really annoyed because why remove

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:22.160
it maybe have it like a bit harder to get to if you don't want

00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:25.839
it around but i don't why you'd remove it using google's advanced image search

00:52:24.160 --> 00:52:29.440
feature you can still filter by sizes larger than certain megapixel counts but

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:33.440
the ability to filter by exact size isn't available there

00:52:31.520 --> 00:52:36.880
bing by contrast apparently does still offer the exact size image filtering

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:41.440
it's too bad that is a steaming pile of garbage

00:52:39.040 --> 00:52:46.480
yeah so now it's time for the super chats

00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:51.040
hey chats you super nope says mighty car mods car pc collab

00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:54.559
we would love to they're not exactly located close to here

00:52:52.720 --> 00:52:58.960
um the stuff that they work on is big the stuff that we work on is big

00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:01.839
time consuming that is a fairly major project we're not saying no

00:53:00.640 --> 00:53:05.440
we're just saying uh not yet

00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:11.040
human gilly says Linus when are you going to come to australia i would love

00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:11.040
to come to australia there we go

00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:15.839
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but i'm not going there to work

00:53:16.240 --> 00:53:22.240
gamer55 sends a dollar thank you

00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:24.880
rust is rust i too god i don't know what that says keep it the great work

00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:31.280
everyone why thank you alexander says new batch of stealth

00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:33.440
hoodies when uh next week

00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:37.040
tony says Linus is beautiful you knew i was going to read that i wasn't going to

00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:42.079
gloss over that one engram says love the earrings don't lie

00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.760
to me people are just

00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:47.760
tommy gunn are you going to revive Channel Super Fun soon we want to we

00:53:46.240 --> 00:53:51.040
haven't had time yet it is on the road map

00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:54.880
why is your back is there an update on Floatplane merge um

00:53:53.200 --> 00:53:58.000
not yet we will we will do Floatplane merch

00:53:56.559 --> 00:54:02.800
eventually uh joshua says any plan to look at via's

00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:11.240
weird x86 chips i didn't know they were making new x86 chips

00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:11.240
via the new CPU you gotta be kidding me

00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:14.880
okay so this is like

00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:20.319
september last year

00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:25.599
hmm oh i think that we tried to get one

00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:29.839
and then didn't but i i don't know i wasn't involved in

00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:34.079
that so interesting yeah we could try again um

00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:40.400
yeah it looks like it's like a weird chinese processor or something

00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:45.359
a lot of time that stuff's really hard to get out of china but

00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:48.960
we did get our hands on the honor tv so uh oh yeah that should give you guys

00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:53.119
some idea how our sourcing in china game is going

00:54:50.720 --> 00:54:56.960
owen says hi apologies for this but hit you up on d forum by dm okay good to

00:54:55.359 --> 00:55:00.720
know uh sport says hi from switzerland just a

00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:04.559
fellow vancouverite creating swiss LTT fans here all right cool

00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:11.040
uh Linus when do you get so handsome uh it's a filter did you hear about that

00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:12.640
no the like um the old lady in china who

00:55:11.040 --> 00:55:17.119
was using a filter um to be like a cam girl

00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:21.200
well this is awesome i don't know if they talked about this on WAN Show uh

00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:25.599
filter you mean on tech link china

00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:29.040
um cam girl i don't know i'm just putting

00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:33.680
in every keyword that could that i think might help me bring this up

00:55:30.640 --> 00:55:36.240
uh this young vloggers beauty filter

00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:40.000
glitched midstream revealing a 58 year old woman

00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:47.680
that is apparently a real-time filter that she was applying to her streams

00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:52.640
that's actually pretty impressive it's really impressive yeah you got like the

00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:57.760
face shaping going on there like nose shaping

00:55:55.040 --> 00:56:02.480
eye shaping like has anyone found that this is fake

00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:06.640
news i haven't found any uh i haven't found any evidence to suggest

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:12.480
that it is fake but i also oh wait oh wow this is bbc

00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:12.480
okay yep it's probably fine

00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:19.839
and i didn't find any other pictures because it'd be nice to have more than

00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:24.640
just one still like a video of the stream might be kind of cool but yeah

00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:26.880
saw that thought that was pretty pretty fascinating

00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.920
i don't remember how we got on that subject right yeah that's what i'm doing

00:56:31.839 --> 00:56:37.040
ah what else we got here i bought tickets for last ltx but

00:56:35.680 --> 00:56:42.400
couldn't go still glad i could contribute can't wait to go next year see you there connor

00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:47.040
uh the novaron do gym shorts at the ltd store i actually totally want to do

00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:51.520
workout clothes uh i want basically i want to stop paying for my badminton

00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:55.440
clothes that's my secret agenda so if you guys could all buy a bunch of it so

00:56:53.839 --> 00:56:59.599
that i don't have to buy well i mean i buy it i buy all of it but like

00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:03.280
i don't know whatever the point is it feels different i wanna yeah it feel it

00:57:01.520 --> 00:57:07.680
feels different it feels different when instead of like going to a store to buy

00:57:05.359 --> 00:57:10.480
this RAM shirt uh lloyd or nick just walks into my office and gives me a

00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:14.400
stack of RAM shirts and it's like hey you gotta promote this now and i'm like cool i love this thing

00:57:13.200 --> 00:57:18.319
um so yes i paid for it in fact i paid more

00:57:16.720 --> 00:57:24.240
than you guys because i actually like hired employees to create it but um

00:57:22.319 --> 00:57:28.799
yeah you got samples those are not cheap doesn't matter yeah actually

00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:34.960
did you guys know like how much freaking samples cost it'll be anywhere from like

00:57:31.680 --> 00:57:36.640
3x to 30x what the the finished product

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:40.160
will be for stuff that's as simple as like a mousepad or whatever actually

00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:45.440
mousepads are a bad example because the samples are pretty cheap for that because it's mostly like a digital

00:57:42.799 --> 00:57:50.240
printing process now but uh did i just give something away yeah i think so

00:57:47.359 --> 00:57:52.880
we're doing a mouse pad uh anyway mike says do you know anything about

00:57:51.359 --> 00:57:57.839
fixing yourself oh yeah i do

00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.839
just go see dr pollock

00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:04.000
uh i'm not reading your username but says i

00:58:02.640 --> 00:58:09.599
would i was wondering if you'd be willing to do an episode on the history of pc sound and sound hardware didn't we

00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:14.319
kind of do that that's really interesting um i don't think so not to

00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:18.640
the degree of depth that this individual is probably hoping for because there is

00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:23.280
a lot that went on there sound used to be a much much more demanding thing

00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:26.640
before uh microsoft basically took the whole thing and put it in software with

00:58:24.720 --> 00:58:30.240
Windows vista i feel like lazy game reviews has a good video on that

00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:35.200
probably um cooper says hey guys been a fan since

00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:39.520
i had a barely functional 5850 now i'm rocking a watercool 2080 ti

00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:43.200
what 2000 sarah component do you miss the most

00:58:40.720 --> 00:58:43.200
none of them

00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:51.119
there were some cool cases back then you probably wouldn't remember any of

00:58:48.319 --> 00:58:53.280
this stuff but um man check out this thing

00:58:55.839 --> 00:59:03.760
oh yes is the thermaltake zazer series

00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:05.839
these were some flashy pants friggin

00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:08.799
computer cases guys let's check this shiz out

00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:12.640
what else we got here oh man look at this blue one

00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:18.640
i think the zazer 3 was oh is this the three

00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:21.200
no i wanted the two oh yeah

00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:25.040
that's the one i was looking for look at this thing it's beautiful

00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:28.799
aluminum construction this was like a premium case back then this was like

00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:32.640
gamer love it look at these one of these

00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:37.599
builds from back then that's like that's like a show build you know did it have

00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:41.520
cathodes in it uh oh probably like this is this was like in

00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:47.119
advertising no one would even dare show that on like

00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:51.060
build.gg or whatever these days it's great um what else we got

00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:56.240
um uh dyslexicon says spending money on

00:59:54.799 --> 01:00:02.319
super chat that won't get read and i'm pretty sure you lied two dollars is usually the uh the free one

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:06.319
but i read it so now you're a double liar uh joey says can you lower shipping

01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:12.240
costs for canadians they are as low as they are um those are our shipping costs

01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.599
we don't make profit on the shipping

01:00:12.240 --> 01:00:19.280
so the only way for us to lower our shipping costs is to do more volume through canada post basically

01:00:17.359 --> 01:00:23.119
uh adam says been watching LTT since ncix love to see the changes over the

01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:27.440
years keep up the good work andrew says i used your code to buy shroud's coffee

01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:31.119
at madrid his coffee is pretty good actually yeah

01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:35.680
but he used our code okay you know what he used our code thank you

01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:39.760
but not to buy our coffee it's okay i'm over it yeah uh dalsem

01:00:37.839 --> 01:00:43.520
says i would love an armored swag kit for a motorbike okay that would be so

01:00:41.839 --> 01:00:48.240
much friggin work do you know how hard it was to do the swag it as it is

01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:52.319
i love it and it was totally worth it but like

01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:56.960
no put some goalie gear outside of it yeah why not oh yeah sure it's that

01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:00.079
simple thank you um jackson

01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:03.760
i'm 13 years old i love your show just wanted to say hey

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:08.839
hey back where are the like buttons on Floatplane luke's working on it

01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:13.839
all right so hold on a minute oh yeah okay this was robert mail

01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:18.400
thank you i just saw that finally now uh a broken tv says i wrote a stage play

01:01:16.799 --> 01:01:22.000
alex you can't do that it'll ruin the company minus you misunderstand i am the

01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:27.200
company i think we could work that line into it

01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:32.400
if we did a stage play sure um oh where'd it go it just moved

01:01:29.839 --> 01:01:37.040
someone said new intro when uh not sure i may just kill the intro

01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.280
yeah maybe we just won't have an intro

01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:44.400
anymore because like people who drop out during the intro our watch time that we don't

01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:49.040
have maybe we just don't need to uh maybe we don't need to like

01:01:46.720 --> 01:01:52.160
brand ourselves to death with that said the amount of branding that we've done

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:55.760
not just for the channel but also for the company i think has contributed to

01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:59.599
um people's awareness of us in general so

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:03.200
i'm not sure what the right answer is yeah

01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:06.720
uh the phoenix i just got my swaggett stealth hoodie processor shirt hat and

01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:10.119
underwear is all awesome and worth every penny thank you phoenix

01:02:08.799 --> 01:02:14.799
um mcringleborot can't wait for the LTT

01:02:12.319 --> 01:02:18.880
sandals can't wait to be the first to resell them on goat

01:02:16.640 --> 01:02:22.720
what is goat i'm like afraid to google this

01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:28.799
goat is it like something to do with shoes

01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:34.799
goat shoes goat.com the safest way to buy i'm sorry what what what is this

01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:36.720
oh no i licked my fingers oh gross sharp

01:02:34.799 --> 01:02:41.839
hands oh gross okay

01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:48.040
why did i do that i deserve it for eating on stream

01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.040
all right what the heck is this

01:02:50.799 --> 01:02:59.040
so is it just like is it just a shoe store i think it's selling like

01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:03.680
hard to get shoes maybe like how much do those cost

01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:08.480
125 bucks that seems pretty reasonable or used for 120.

01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:10.559
oh okay so this is a used marketplace then

01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:17.280
okay so you want to resell them on goad

01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:18.319
wow um okay i mean everybody has to have

01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:22.400
goals and that's important to maintain your

01:03:20.720 --> 01:03:26.559
focus so i commend you for it

01:03:24.319 --> 01:03:31.680
uh okay

01:03:28.640 --> 01:03:34.480
i think that's pretty much all we can do

01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:39.520
for now thank you guys so much for tuning in we'll see you again next week

01:03:36.319 --> 01:03:41.320
same bad time same bat channel

01:03:39.520 --> 01:03:44.559
so long

01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:54.079
oh i can't believe we didn't finish the video today

01:03:52.160 --> 01:03:59.619
yeah i'm so disappointed i wanted to know if it was gonna work

01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:04.720
i still want to know if it's going to work yeah

01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:07.880
i'm still concerned it's going to catch on fire