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and welcome to the WAN Show ladies and

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gentlemen we're a little bit late but um at least we got the video done right

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no no we didn't we didn't actually it was all for nothing really frustrated

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but the least that we can do is give you guys an update on what exactly it was

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that had us so gosh darn busy um we're

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finally doing it alex has been chasing me to make this video pretty much since

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he started we are doing a thermoelectric

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cooled computer but instead of doing it kind of the um

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like the the janky way well to be clear it's still janky but

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it's probably the jankiest thing we've ever made but what it isn't is the stupid way of

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doing it true yeah so it's it's it's

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janky but it's like the right way

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but also it it's the right way

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to like do it from a peltier perspective

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but we have this like box that's filled with electronics that's going to have it

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has ac power and like 600 watts going through it and it's so sketchy

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yeah it's pretty sketchy so we've got a great show for you guys today of course

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the big headline is apple allowing third

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parties to repair iphones so we'll get into that we also want to talk about the

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uh some serious nerd drama that's going on with global

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foundries issuing a lawsuit against tsmc so these

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two chip fabs are going toe to toe and

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finally AMD apparently agreed to pay out

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35 per chip over their fx series marketing

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lawsuit that is actually a pretty intro actually all

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three of these have a a ton of meat so let's go ahead and get doug into them

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after we remember for a change to roll that

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intro oh yeah

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brought to you by savage jerky private internet access

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all right so it has been a pretty busy week the

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first thing i saw on the chat there was people were like where's Anthony

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and you know what that's pretty rude i haven't been on wan

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show in a couple weeks and if we just had alex and Anthony doing it then i'd

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feel pretty left out no they met they met instead of you but but actually

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Anthony is really busy so alex and Anthony have both been working on really

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really cool projects this week so alex has been doing the peltier one that we

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just talked about so it's like a what 545 watt peltier

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yeah strapped directly to the top of the CPU unfortunately we didn't quite get

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that one done but at least you got further than Anthony with his

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um but his is really cool too so um

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this gets talked about sort of every once in a while and then the new cycle

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passes and we all ignore it again but i don't know if you even realize

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because you don't do our CPU reviews or really any of our legitimate

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actual you know cooler reviews

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you're more like okay build the most over kill thing with you know

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300 to 1000 watts of cooling capacity

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and then whatever we hook up to it it'll be cool enough don't worry about it

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um but the way that Intel and AMD report

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the TDP so the thermal design power i think it's thermal design power whatever

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it is um thermal design parameter can't

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remember the point is the amount of heat

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that their that their chip is going to output the way that they calculate TDP

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is completely different so

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right now with ryzen 3rd gen and Intel's

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though i don't know that it is strictly speaking the ninth gen

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it all depends on how you calculate generations because we've been on

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skylake for a while now according to my watch

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anyway with their current products on both sides

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the way that AMD handles it is they basically do you know all this or am i

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just talking to them no not really okay cool so the way that

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AMD handles it is whatever the maximum

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amount of heat that that chip could output um assuming that it is going it's

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running full tilt that's considered to be the TDP under

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like a reasonable load so if i were to

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if i were to take my my you know ryzen 3 700 whatever processor

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and i were to throw uh you know an egg on top of it

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i can assume that if that thing is rated at a 105 watts

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that i'm getting 105 watts of heat and it's going to take however long to cook my egg

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pretty much because it will turbo as high as it possibly can within its power

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and its thermal restraints or constraints excuse me

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all right so on the Intel side of things now Intel has an eight-core desktop

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processor just like AMD does uh the 9900k and it's rated at a mere 95 watts

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so given that 95 watt rating that thing

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should be easy to cool right yeah sure

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so here's the thing Intel allows that chip to spike up to its max

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turbo and then what it expects it to do what's

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within the Intel specification is for it to ratchet back down so as the

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as the power consumption and therefore the the heat that it is outputting goes

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up and as its temperature climbs it's going to ratchet that down until

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that is the TDP that they rate it for so

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really what it's rated at is its base clock so they're they're they're

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producing or they're using TDP as a guideline for

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anyone who's producing a cooler that will satisfactorily

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cool it at base clock speeds without causing

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thermal throttling which is different from not boosting now that's something

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you have a lot of experience with you want to explain for the people out there

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what is the difference between thermal throttling

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and boosting because you see this in laptops all the time right

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yeah good a good one to think of is like the

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Corsair one so in that

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it's very small and although a 9900k

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can boost to i don't know 4.8 or maybe like 4.5 all core something

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like that it only does like 3.6

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if you hit it for an extended period of time right whereas in something like the

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for a continued amount of time because it's cooler right so the point to

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clarify there is that neither of those products necessarily

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thermal throttled they just boosted more or less and that

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MSI product is a great example of a customer of Intel's so in this case it's

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MSI but ASUS actually had a big scandal around this a while back but a customer

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of Intel's basically designed the the

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firmware of their motherboard to operate the chip in a way that Intel

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doesn't necessarily intend for it to yeah

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so they intend for it to do it but only for short periods of time so there was

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that whole thing do you remember back when i thought it was the 8700k was it

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that one or was it 7700k i think it was 8700 think it was 8700k when all the

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review sites had these completely different multi-threaded numbers for

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this chip because some of them were using motherboards that used what's

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called ASUS calls it multi-core enhancement which basically takes that

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elevated clock and then just holds it there indefinitely and others were

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behaving the way that Intel calls for them to behave which is to boost up to

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it and then fall down so anyway

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back to our discussion of tdps the project that Anthony is working on

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involves taking i believe it's a ryzen

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he's using and then a 9900k where the ryzen 7 3700x is rated at 105 watts TDP

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and the 9900k is rated at 95 watts so on

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paper you as the let's say the uneducated

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layperson consumer walking into a store you look at these two products

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one's got eight cores the other one's got eight cores right yeah one of them

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is clocked at some clock speed and then also it turbos to whatever because

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that's written on the box the other one is at some clock speed and it turbos or

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whatever uh one of them you know what

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i don't want that extra 10 watts on my power bill all the time one of them runs

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you consumes less power and outputs less heat my room gets really warm in the

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summer i think i'm going to go with that one that's 10 watts cooler yeah

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but since it's not an apples to apples comparison and the chips are behaving

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completely differently we think that the way that that's being

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presented doesn't make a ton of sense so do you know much about what Anthony's

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working on yeah isn't it just like you take a liter or some amount i don't

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know if exactly a liter of water and you just

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set it on top in a vial and see how long

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it takes for it to heat up yeah basically so two thermal probes just

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well we actually don't even need thermal probes because we're not trying to we're

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not trying to get as granular as like exactly what is the TDP because then

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we'd need like this thermally isolated environment we'd have

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to make sure we're not losing any of the CPU's heat through the copper traces of

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the motherboard like it's not realistic so what we're doing

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is we're taking apples to apples to the greatest extent that we can in

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comparison so the same amount of water and then we're putting a thermal dye

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inside the water and we're basically going to go all right

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whose dye turns i think it turns from white to black something like that or

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black to white so whose dye changes color first to see if Intel's lower TDP

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rating is actually representative of the

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behavior of the CPU and we're gonna run the Intel one twice once at Intel's um specified oh yes uh

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behavior so we're gonna not run multi-core enhancement and then one

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at the way that i think most enthusiasts immediately flip the switch on their

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cpus in order to get it to run faster

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so i'm really excited about that one but unfortunately we weren't able to get all

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the little details like how do we put um vessels of water on top of our cpus

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without spilling them all over the place securely while maintaining enough

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mounting pressure to have good thermal conductivity etc etc minor details we've

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actually got it all sorted out now but we didn't have enough time to get it shot this morning which was when i had

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time to shoot so stay tuned for that um people are

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asking where is luke like legitimately where is luke he's down at pax

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luke goes to pax every year with his family and now that we actually don't

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cover pax anymore he gets to spend it with his family again there was a period

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of about four years there five years i think where luke was still going to

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packs and he'd like sneak away at night and you know hang out with his family

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and friends and then be back at work in the morning work in the show floor um i

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think that he wasn't always he wasn't a fan i'll say that

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he was not a fan of that arrangement i think he's pretty happy that he gets to just legitimately actually go a ten

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packs now although he's been pretty critical of it over the last couple of

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years and says that it just hasn't been what it used to be but

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that's okay ltx ltx is gonna

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step up well then again at ltx like what

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did he accomplish i think

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didn't he try to like walk from one side to the other to get to something and

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just didn't make it past the entrance yeah i think it was something along those

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lines okay too nice of a guy oh i have an alex pacific question from john why

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uh oh he deleted it oh it was deleted by nightbot what

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oh why was that deleted okay uh john y wants to know what happened to the ricer

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pc i would also love to have a status update on the racer pc

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uh not a whole lot's happened with it uh

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we've been doing a lot of other things like the tech coolers

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that's about it okay yeah we do have some people that

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are going to make different parts for us i'm just not

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entirely sure who's making which part

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um i'm not totally sure okay well we'll not

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like make them do things right now

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yeah we won't sign them up so yeah guys we do still intend to do it

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the good news is we have all the hardware so now it's just a matter of

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in good time um getting all yeah everything measured up getting blocks

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produced planning out the build it is quite a bit

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more complicated to do like a showcase

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level of pc build on something that's running really old hardware that doesn't

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have a ton of support for it anymore um

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so give us time we will do it yeah also the workshop

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is a workshop now there's been like this pretty large period for the past

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couple months where we just couldn't really do projects because

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everything was just in boxes over there so what all is actually hooked up over

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there laser cutter no okay that's covered in destin

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router router's fully operational router's good

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mill um we got the tooling order done

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so it's fully operational minus having everything to cut things drill press

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drill press is good sander

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it's like not bolted down but it's it's

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okay okay so basically we're getting there yeah okay lathe tooling arrived in

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the u.s so we seem to pick it up

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great so guys give us time give us time um

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all right speaking of giving time let's uh let's give you guys the thing that

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you came for in a reasonable amount of time see i brought it around uh apple

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announced his independent repair program uh link boy on the forum posted this and

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the original source of the news is naturally

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apple themselves so let's see how apple

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puts their spin on this apple offers customers even more options

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for safe reliable repair it's funny that they're branding third-party repair

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businesses as safe and reliable when for so long

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the line was that they weren't new independent repair provider program

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expands genuine parts access to more repair businesses

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all right so let's go through sort of the the key points here

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um they announced new repair program offering customers additional options

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for the most common out of warranty iphone repairs

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apple will provide more independent repair businesses large or small with

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the same genuine parts tools training repair manuals and diagnostics as its

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apple authorized service providers or aasps

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this is a quote so when a repair is needed a customer should have the

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confidence that the repair is done right we believe the safest and most reliable

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repair is one handled by a trained technician using genuine parts that have

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been properly engineered and rigorously tested so here's what i want to know

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why didn't apple want the kiosk in the mall to have decent parts before because

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it's not like the kiosk in the mall was ever going to go away

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so at the end of the day your customer apple

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your customer was going to go there and they were

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going to have either a really great experience by sheer blind luck

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because you guys certainly didn't put any effort into

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making that experience any smoother so you got lucky if they had a good time

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or that customer was going to have a bad time and you know whose customer that is

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yours so i mean

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they get applause they just don't get like okay they get slow applause for

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finally yeah gal i like that give up the golf clap

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um okay i don't ah see i i fall into this

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trap sometimes where when a company finally does the right

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thing you still get mad i still get mad because

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they did the wrong thing for so long and it's all this like pent-up frustration

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but i shouldn't i shouldn't get mad about this

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um with that said there's okay i should i

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shouldn't get mad about the good parts of this because there's still parts of this that i can get legitimately mad

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about so uh there's a couple things here the program is only going to allow

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independent repair shops to offer out of warranty service for iphones

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such as display battery replacements there is no mention of in-warranty

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repairs or other devices so mr rossman

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over there is not going to be getting diagnostic manuals for macbook pros

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anytime soon as far as we can tell

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and this is another really important point of clarification

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apple has not announced along with this program any kind of um

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uh any kind of process for general consumers to gain access to

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genuine parts to conduct their own repairs

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so yeah i think it's the out of warranty

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service that gets me the most because

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where this probably means the most to a lot of people

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is like out in the boonies where like

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buddy knows something about tech but doesn't have the right tools

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and so they could just give them the right tools because like i don't know if

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you're living in labrador you're not going to get to the genius store like

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you you speak as though uh you you know this from experience

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i don't know if people know where you're from

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nova scotia yeah which isn't quite labrador but like from our perspective

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it's been they only got an apple store there like pretty recently yeah

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and so sort of thing where like you can go to lots of places to get your

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stuff fixed but like i don't know most times just like a high

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school kid that has some spudgers so i'm gonna i'm gonna

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play devil's advocate here and i'm gonna say i totally get it if you're not a

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fully certified apple authorized repair center i don't see them offering you a

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warranty on the thing that was opened up by some random person that is fair

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so i get that side of it but i'm still

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really frustrated that as a consumer so like from a from a just right to repair

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right to repair doesn't mean right for

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some specific person to repair it means that if i have the know-how and the

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inclination to work on upgrade or repair my own devices

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i should have access to the same manuals the same

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tools the same diagnostic utilities that

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anyone else would because why not

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they're going to be out there anyway especially now that they're opening up

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this program like if they imagine for a second that they're just going to

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certify a bunch of like random mom and pop shops in the philippines and these

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manuals aren't going to be all over torrent sites everywhere like come on

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come on just formalize what's already happening

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so that we don't have this like black market of apple

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pcb schematics like i'm serious oh yeah it's that crazy

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like there's like honestly speaking

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if you want like a brand new apple product you either have to get stolen

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blueprints for it if you want to figure out like you know

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what every what every sense pin is connected to

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or i mean you'd have to i don't know you'd have to

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rip apart a working device and like x-ray the thing and try and try and

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reverse engineer it basically apple's pre i mean

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that sounds fun yeah

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so anyway anyway anyway in apple's defense again let's get

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positive again for a second here the certification process is simple and free

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of charge but meeting the requirements

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which is basically that you have to have an apple certified technician who can

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report perform the repairs does not guarantee acceptance into the

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program and apple reserves the right to reject any application without telling

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you why

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wait should we do should we do something on this

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we could have we try to apply to b1 yeah we should have like three or four people

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just apply and see how many get in i think Anthony used to have his apple

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certified crap hmm i wonder if we could like get him get

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him like uh like get him um

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that's what i'm looking for like get his certifications refreshed

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and uh try and see if Linus media group

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incorporated can become an apple what what are they calling it again uh

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apple independent authorized service no no no we wouldn't

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become an asp for sure but if we could just be like an iphone an iphone service

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whatever get like our get our iphone manuals and stuff

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that would be cool we'll just set up shop and like unit 105

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or whatever people can just pull up we do have a

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pretty legit like rework area i know right yeah not that apple is letting

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shops do anything like that anyway you're basically just doing screen repairs and battery replacements but uh

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maybe this is part of the lash back around apple's whole stupid thing where

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they were taking even first party batteries and giving you like a battery

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service notification in iOS do you hear about this no i didn't okay so pretty

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much a recent change made it so that if you swap your battery even if you take

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two identical iphones and just swap the batteries between them

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so all apple first party parts

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they would give you a notification in iOS that says your battery may require

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servicing because they're tying the serial number of the phone to

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uh like a serial number in the battery

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so they're they're doing that so that it's easy to tell

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if a phone was not battery swapped by an

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apple authorized party because apple authorized parties

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are able to reprogram the chip on the battery so that it'll match the phone so

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you won't get that error so they got a ton of backlash for it because like yo

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guys yeah for serious business at this point what are you even doing like it's

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bad enough you make it so hard to swap the battery now i've gone i've done all

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that work this stupid error come on so it looks

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like they're just expanding the network of people who can do it legitimately

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that people who repair things themselves

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still have to deal with this crap yeah um

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anyway it's uh so this follows apple's recent expansion of this authorized

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service network into every best buy store in the u.s which actually tripled

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the number of usasp locations compared to three years ago which is great but

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the us really isn't um the

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biggest problem um it's other places like labradoodle or

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wherever you're from

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i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry look look look i'm not going to be one of those elitist

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you know torontonians or whatever they call themselves i'm aware

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i'm aware that there are other parts of canada okay

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i just don't care

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sorry we have this okay for those of you are not canadian we have this like

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inferiority complex over on the western side of the country because we like were

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settled later like we didn't even get a railroad until i don't know 80 years ago

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or something like that i'm kidding it was longer than that but it doesn't matter the point is we have like this

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inferiority complex because our government and the vast majority of

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our population are all thousands of kilometers away and

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sometimes you know the decisions that they make uh for the direction of the

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company company the country don't really have a lot to do with the concerns of

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people over here so we just feel kind of ignored you know it's like

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oh you know what's canada's baseball team

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well toronto whatever they're called it's a bird or

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something you know what's canada's basketball team i don't

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know some other bird um oh it's like

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i i i know i know it's a dinosaur raptor not a bad raptor but the blue jays

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aren't a dinosaur yes it is it isn't shut up it is that's hot enough for your

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crap birds or dinosaurs okay you can you can make that argument

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but that's up for a com that's a different podcast you go you go talk

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about that on some other podcast um

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how did we get on this uh oh right the point was that the u.s

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is not the main concern most people in the u.s compared to rural parts of you

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know russia or something have relatively

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easy access to an aasp and i'm not saying it's perfect

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everywhere i'm just saying that right now the program is only launched in the

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u.s with plans to expand to other countries so it's clearly not a complete

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solution but it is a step in the right direction i just always question apple's

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motives when they do stuff like this is it a step in the right direction as part

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of a greater movement towards a more consumer

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focused attitude or is it a step in the right direction

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to appease people and make them shut up while they continue to march in

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completely the opposite direction as a more general rule for their business

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behind the scenes which one do you think

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are they getting more consumer-friendly

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yes but are they doing it out of the

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goodness of their hearts

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probably both you think so wow

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like it's not like entirely out of the

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goodness of their hearts but you know it's the kind of thing where

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it's a bit of both

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what are what are people saying john wick says quebec feels ignored don't

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complain dude quebec does not get ignored quebec complains so loudly

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that like we can't be heard over their noise and i'm not saying quebec doesn't

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have legitimate grievances i'm just saying that to say that quebec gets

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ignored is um a very quebecois thing to say

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uh what can i do for you nick uh did you talk about the new shirt you guys are

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still talking about apple so i actually have not talked about the new shirt i

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can i can talk about the new shirt uh sponsors time we have a new shirt yeah

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you know what let's start with ourselves so this episode is brought to you by

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lttstore.com uh

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look at this guy what a loser it's got bad hair too oh terrible

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um anyway we launched a new product today this is the RAM t-shirt what's

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that on the front of it

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wow that is a great picture of david

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did you see this yeah his punch oh yeah that is fantastic wow

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we have so many models here now

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that's awesome look this flasher guy

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you look so scary in that photo i'm sorry

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anyway this is our RAM shirt it's a shirt with RAM on the front

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i think it's pretty self-explanatory it's part of our whole like series of pc

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component shirts we've got cpus hard drives

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um yeah that's pretty much it cpus there's

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other ones coming so i thought there were going to be more on the site but they're not there

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so check it out lttstore.com while you're at it once you

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pick up a water bottle the water bottle is freaking awesome

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you hear that that's the ice cubes that don't melt because it's insulated and

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what else can i do for you nick we'll have uh stealth back in next week

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right yeah stealth hoodie is out of stock we know swackitt is out of stock

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we know we didn't order enough honestly swackett

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did so much better than we could have possibly expected like we

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we started that project like nine months ago or something stupid like that this

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one right here um and we ordered 500 of them thinking that

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like that was gonna be absolutely nuts and we might have a hard

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time selling them all because the store so far had not sold

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like anything yet i don't think i think we'd sold like a handful of t-shirts or

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something like that and we sold out a swag in like two weeks so you guys are

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freaking awesome um thank you for your support i guess it helps that we actually

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launched an item like in season for a change like stealth hoodie we launched

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in the middle of summer like the weather is heating up we're

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like yeah get a hoodie whoa

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where's swag it's like right in time for the fall so that's coming back in the next i think what three or four weeks

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slacking yeah i don't have a time oh never mind no eta but stealth's coming

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back in the next week or so um new water bottle colors in three to

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four weeks oh new water bottle colors in about a month so stay tuned guys

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uh also right we're gonna we're relaunching

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elemental so stay tuned for that too it'll be on a

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right yeah basically oh yeah that's right because they sold out in like a

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00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:55,039
and finally brought to you by chrono dot gg so we've

464
00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:01,200
partnered with them to set up an official Linus tech tips games store so

465
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,559
i'm going to fire up the store here

466
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:08,880
this is my first time actually seeing the finished one minus tech tips official game store got

467
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:11,039
featured games you had something to do with this didn't you yep

468
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:18,000
i played too much of that this year totally

469
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,000
wow let's go ahead and go back to chrono dot gg

470
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:26,640
so we've got risk of rain two city skylines that's come com2 super hot

471
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:31,120
sieve 6 and more so chrono.gg works with game publishers directly to secure keys

472
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and deals for partners like ourselves if you haven't heard of them before their

473
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:41,720
main store offers one game one great deal every day at 9am pacific

474
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,720
so check it out today at LTT.chrono.gg

475
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:50,039
i'm actually going to fire it up and see what their main deal is today

476
00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:02,000
i have never actually heard of this game i don't know kind of reminds me of have

477
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:05,200
a hotel complex man oh it's a space station sim

478
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,919
yep that seems like the kind of thing that people would play a lot

479
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:14,000
and then get completely consumed by all right in other news this week global

480
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:17,919
foundries has issued a lawsuit against tsmc and

481
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:23,760
if you guys don't already know how high drama this whole situation is

482
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:25,119
i'm gonna skip straight to tsmc's

483
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,599
response to uh

484
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:34,800
here it is let me see blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

485
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:38,480
blah oh man oh yeah that's ruthless i don't think where is it where is it in

486
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,480
here

487
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,079
there ah yes okay this is great

488
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:49,040
um oh no that's not even it oh that's

489
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,760
hilarious okay no that was from um a tech analyst

490
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,520
significant damages you know what i don't think it's in my notes so do you want to start walking people through

491
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,119
what's going on here while i find this quote it's fantastic

492
00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:02,640
um so i don't really know the details but

493
00:35:00,839 --> 00:35:06,480
basically that's fine you just read the thing and pretend you know

494
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,440
global foundries has filed lawsuits against taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company in the u.s and

495
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,079
germany over alleged infringement on 16 patents

496
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,079
the company said they're looking to halt the import of processors maybe the

497
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,920
technology and is seeking to or and is seeking significant damages

498
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,560
from tsmc based on tsmc's unlawful use

499
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:31,920
of gf's for priority technology in the tens of billions of dollars of sales

500
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:40,480
um basically it'd be really bad because NVIDIA apple

501
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,520
um doesn't AMD also use them

502
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:47,440
pretty much everyone that makes fast things now uses

503
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:52,960
tsmc global foundries fell a little bit behind um and when you file a little bit

504
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:57,040
behind in semiconductor manufacture you're in trouble yeah you're basically

505
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,960
done um

506
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:05,760
uh so like what even happens if this goes

507
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:09,119
through like do we just do we have like the titan rtx and it's

508
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,640
like suddenly gold because you can't get any more or something um realistically

509
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,480
like this kind of thing comes out all the time where you know

510
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,880
i mean back when uh back when apple and samsung were going toe-to-toe over the

511
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,720
original galaxy s vibrant and how it looks just like an iphone and all that

512
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,240
kind of stuff and you know they'll seek sales and junctions or whatever the case

513
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,640
may be like sales bans the reality is that it usually takes so

514
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:37,520
long to be processed that any product that would be affected

515
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:43,119
by it is long gone from store shelves before anything

516
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,200
actually happens and this is more it ends up a lot of the time being more

517
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:51,359
about posturing than anything else now the unfortunate thing about this

518
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:56,000
situation is if it just covers anything made by tsmc

519
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:01,040
yeah it could actually affect your ability to buy

520
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:06,720
a NVIDIA graphics card in any countries that will that will

521
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,560
uphold um this kind of a ruling

522
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:13,119
it could create like a black market for graphics cards that are like

523
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,400
manufactured in taiwan sorry the chips manufacture so the chips

524
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,920
are manufactured under one the cards are assembled in china and then they're like

525
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,320
you know shipped through india or something and then like snuck into port

526
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,079
and the us or whatever well it says u.s and germany so maybe we can just get a

527
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,400
bunch and we're pretty close to the border

528
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,760
not an actual business strategy don't you

529
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:41,040
i was uh someone found the threat found the uh

530
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,960
the quote in the thread on our forum

531
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,560
but i'm having a really really hard time finding it

532
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,640
ah tsmc because um

533
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:54,160
oh dang it i hate this i'm so mad okay

534
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,599
in a nutshell they basically said

535
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:04,880
yeah we're going to defend ourselves and we think it would probably be a good

536
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:09,040
idea if they would just focus on making better

537
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,520
products than resorting to this kind of um

538
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:19,040
you know patent infringement lawsuit crap

539
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:23,200
in a nutshell oh maybe it was the other

540
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:27,680
thread nope that was just page two dang it all right whatever i give up

541
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,640
so i guess that's pretty much uh i guess that's pretty much all we have to say

542
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:37,520
about that yeah that would be bad yeah good luck

543
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:41,920
global foundries uh seems like they must be pretty desperate so in august 2018

544
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,680
they ceased development of their seven nanometer process to focus on being a

545
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:49,599
specialty foundry which is i guess another way of saying that you can't

546
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:52,720
compete at the bleeding edge so you're just going to go out there and

547
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,400
find customers that don't need their products manufactured

548
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,599
on the bleeding edge and like that's fine there's plenty of customers for

549
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:04,240
that out there um it's just

550
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,880
it's like going for venture capital or like getting venture capital and being

551
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,280
like you know i just kind of want the loan for my parents yeah

552
00:39:12,839 --> 00:39:18,720
ouch right what else we got here oh this is a big one

553
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,280
so this was posted by rainbow dash on the forum not the real rainbow dash of course uh

554
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:28,240
the original article here is from the register.co.uk

555
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:33,920
but AMD has agreed to play to pay purchasers of its fx bulldozer

556
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,400
processors a total of 12.1 million

557
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:43,280
dollars to settle a four-year false advertising lawsuit that works out

558
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,640
to about 35 a chip um oh man i remember

559
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,400
this great um

560
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:57,359
Intel used to have some really edgy advertising back when they had this like

561
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:59,680
we are unassailable swagger going on um

562
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:03,040
so this was a little bit beforehand let me see if i can find the image

563
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,880
oh that's a shame i just remember they sent

564
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:13,359
us this advertising collateral back when i was working at ncix

565
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:17,760
back when AMD was advertising their triple cores which were basically

566
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,359
uh failed quad cores that had one of the cores disabled and what was cool was

567
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,280
that in many cases they could be re-enabled

568
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,960
and Intel sent over this ad collateral that said like

569
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:34,400
um more is not necessarily better or something like that and it had like

570
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,000
a like beefy looking chopper motorcycle that was blue

571
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:42,320
and then like a green or red i forget whether AMD had switched over to red yet

572
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:49,599
at that point but a tricycle next to it and i was like oh you guys you so edgy

573
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:50,960
anyway the whole core marketing for AMD

574
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:56,079
ended up getting them into trouble because they went from the fx

575
00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:02,160
oh man i'm trying to remember sorry it was the phenom 1100 t was their flagship

576
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:05,760
six core processor and that was based on their

577
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:10,560
steamroller i'm sorry i'm a little bit i'm a little bit hazy on my

578
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:14,319
eight-year-old code names but the 1100t was an unlocked six core processor

579
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:18,880
phenom black edition or something along those lines and it had

580
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:22,079
um from like uh from like a

581
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,880
traditional sense so it had both floating point and integer units for

582
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:34,000
each of those six cores then AMD launched the world's first

583
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:36,720
eight core desktop processor the fx i

584
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,079
think it was 8150 was the first one do you remember any of this all right don't

585
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:45,839
worry about it fx 8150 but

586
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:47,520
the problem with the fx 8150 was that it

587
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:54,560
didn't have in the same definition that AMD had

588
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,359
previously used it didn't have eight

589
00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:00,160
full cores so i think it only had eight

590
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,000
integer units um but then only four

591
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:09,040
floating point units or something like that yeah yeah is that is that right yeah that's

592
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:13,040
right okay and crucially a single floating point you know yep yep so what

593
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:18,000
that meant was that for certain workloads

594
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,079
certain workloads it did actually behave

595
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:25,760
kind of like an eight-core processor but for other ones it only had the horses

596
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:29,440
under the hood of a quad-core processor and they were advertising it as an

597
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:34,480
eight-core processor when the entire rest of the industry which is

598
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:38,960
AMD at every point previously though to be clear if we go back far

599
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:44,000
enough uh cpus used to have things like cash off board so

600
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,680
let's ignore that era but everyone including AMD and of course Intel had

601
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,800
sort of decided that a CPU core needed to have

602
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:55,040
both a floating point and an integer unit

603
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:02,000
so in january this year a california judge rejected AMD's claim that a

604
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,359
specific significant majority of people understood the term core the same way it

605
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:10,319
did and uh based on the results of a poll of

606
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,720
the register readers it appears most c-cores in the same way as the litigants

607
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:21,440
so 47 said a core should be fully independent whereas a mere 28 were rabid

608
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:23,839
AMD fanboys and said that it can share

609
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:30,640
execution engines so this has led to um both AMD and the

610
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:33,520
plaintiff's lawyers oh this this is great uh this appears to be some

611
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,960
editorial from the register there they said the insanity that is class action

612
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:41,520
lawsuits has led both AMD and the plaintiff's lawyers to argue to the

613
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,200
judge that 12.1 million is a fair amount

614
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:49,520
despite the fact that consumers paid an additional 60 million in premiums for

615
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:49,520
their eight core processors

616
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:55,839
i don't know this is honestly kind of a tough one for me because i really do see

617
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,880
it both ways on the one hand

618
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:05,520
yeah it was kind of bs but on the other hand is it really any more bs than

619
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:12,000
you know NVIDIA calling their gpus 2000 core

620
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,680
processors like they call them cuda cores but

621
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:20,079
they're not cores in the same way that a CPU core is a core like get real

622
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,760
yeah you have to read the fine print on this stuff it's highly technical stuff

623
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:34,240
for me i thought that it was like pretty greasy like i know when i learned that it was like

624
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:35,599
only half actual cores 1.5 of course

625
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:41,200
yeah because like a lot of stuff uses fpu like

626
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:50,400
yeah i don't know i guess also kind of like

627
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:51,680
not many things use a cores even now so

628
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,760
i don't know how much of a difference it would have made but

629
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:58,000
it just i don't know it just

630
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:03,599
doesn't sit right with you know what here's what i want to know

631
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,599
let's create a straw poll here

632
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:12,560
i want to hear from you guys but here's the trick i only want to hear from you

633
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:15,119
guys if you actually bought that means real money

634
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,640
when it was new so i'm not talking like

635
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,400
your buddy was getting rid of his fx when he upgraded to

636
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:27,839
something better or whatever i'm talking you bought brand new from a store a

637
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:33,560
bulldozer processor an fx a core processor and i want to know do you feel

638
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,560
ripped off

639
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:40,079
no not maybe do you feel ripped off because really when you when you calculate the damage of a class-action

640
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:43,359
lawsuit it's more about the money so

641
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:48,560
or it's more about that it's about the false advertising so would you have made

642
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:48,560
a different decision

643
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,040
would you have bought something else

644
00:45:53,119 --> 00:46:00,880
because here's the thing core advertising or boost clock speeds

645
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:05,200
or whatever the actually yeah the TDP discussion that we had earlier is

646
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,280
another perfect example of just

647
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,240
if you just read the box of a CPU knowing that this is a highly technical

648
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,680
product you kind of got what was coming to you

649
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:19,440
so core processing or core counts aside and advertising

650
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:23,280
aside any computer purchase should come down

651
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:28,079
to benchmarks anyway

652
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:32,000
not down to the specs because the specs are ultimately pretty much meaningless

653
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,560
all right i'm going to go ahead and dump this in the youtube chat

654
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:42,800
i actually don't know where to find the live video on our channel here

655
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,680
oh there it is wow that was easy neat

656
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:50,640
yeah i would say framed like that i am a no

657
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,800
like i don't think that it would change how i thought about it so you

658
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:59,280
would have just done your research and made a decision based on the raw

659
00:46:56,319 --> 00:46:59,280
performance of the thing

660
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:06,160
yeah right and like

661
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:12,400
for a lot of things do you think it really makes a difference like

662
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,800
not i don't know like as uh as an educated consumer no it made no

663
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:20,400
difference to me whatsoever how AMD wanted to advertise their stupid thing

664
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:29,200
um i knew that it performed like hot garbage literally hot garbage

665
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,200
and so i was not interested in it um

666
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,800
but i guess like sometimes i can be kind of out of touch in that sense you know

667
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,160
it's funny i had someone call me out of touch but i think it was

668
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,680
i think this was not the way that they meant it because we talked a little

669
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,560
while about how user benchmark i think it's called oh yes how i had never heard

670
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:48,880
of that before like you're so out of touch must be nice

671
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,560
to just have all that stuff on hand so you can test it yourself

672
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:56,720
i'm like no i didn't always have all that and i

673
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,319
still didn't resort to like what's that other stupid site like

674
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:07,280
GPU check or something like that where like you know anytime you google like

675
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:10,640
1080 ti versus ti stupid garbage these

676
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,800
garbage town websites that just like

677
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,599
count cuda course basically and say which one is better like that's not how

678
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:22,000
you research hardware i didn't have to have all this stuff to be able to figure

679
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,680
out how things perform relative to each other you just go out you look for

680
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:29,599
independent reviews of them you find numbers that

681
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:34,160
match and then you can use that to compare something that was never

682
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,319
directly compared so if one review has a

683
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:39,520
direct comparison between a 3700x and a 9900k

684
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:45,040
and then another review has a comparison between a 3700x and

685
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,960
9400 no it's not that hard it's not that hard

686
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,920
you have to be willing to put a little bit of work into it the point is you can

687
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:55,599
compare 9900k to 9400 as long as the thing that they have in common

688
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,000
sort of agrees it's pretty close yeah but you're thinking of like someone that

689
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:06,400
gets that not the sort of person that's like oh like how does a gtx 760 compare

690
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:11,440
to i don't know uh

691
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:15,680
1050 like you just type that in no no no

692
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,000
no it's like it's not very difficult for like you or me

693
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:24,240
to like figure how it all matches up yeah because you just have to go find reviews

694
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,800
of like the 960 and then also the 1060

695
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:30,720
and you can bridge the gap yeah it's not all that difficult

696
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:33,760
but if the first search result that comes up is like oh this one right here

697
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,760
is however many percent faster than the other one you're just going to click that you're

698
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,599
going to use the number and you're going to be like okay yeah

699
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:45,119
all right we've got our results i'm so sorry Floatplane um we were already

700
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:51,599
really late for the show and i didn't have time to sign in so i didn't check your chat uh and i didn't post it there

701
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,960
i feel terrible you guys are great um

702
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,480
speaking of chats um uh what's his name um

703
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:04,160
robert mayhall i'm sorry that i said that wrong sent us the tsmc quote

704
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:08,960
oh super chat oh where is it it's right here oh this is great thank you robert

705
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,880
we are disappointed to see a foundry pier resort to meritless lawsuits

706
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,760
instead of competing in the marketplace with technology

707
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:22,000
tsmc is proud of its technology leadership manufacturing excellence and

708
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:26,720
unwavering commitment to customers so basically they just said

709
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:30,640
if it's too hot in the kitchen then get you know get your ass out

710
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:36,880
yeah sorry you're not good yeah sorry not sorry

711
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:40,160
so this is interesting it split i wouldn't say down the middle

712
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,880
but it's a lot more even than i would have thought so 40 of people would have bought

713
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,839
something else with just shy of 60 saying no they would have bought exactly

714
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:51,040
the same thing because they probably did all the same research that yeah we would

715
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:54,359
normally do and knew exactly what it was that they were buying

716
00:50:55,119 --> 00:51:02,960
i don't know it's a funny thing because from my perspective i don't really care

717
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,960
that much about like

718
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:11,599
jesus was in here earlier this week talking about how they were the first to have a 120 hertz laptop and i was like

719
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:17,839
okay but i would never buy something because

720
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:22,079
of a manufacturer like being like look how cool we are

721
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,319
what do i care about that how many FPS do i get in my game shut up about that

722
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,480
other stuff so

723
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,760
yeah i just i can find that kind of thing looks like confusing

724
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:40,400
all right so we should see if there's any anything else that we wanted to uh talk about real quick oh yeah this is

725
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,880
something that just sort of bothered me i don't know why they did it um

726
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:49,920
this was posted by jc helios on the forum oh yeah the original article is

727
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:52,640
from nine to five google and uh mine go ahead i don't know this just really

728
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:57,599
annoyed me i have no idea why they did it yeah i was this happened to me like

729
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:04,240
very recently i was just trying to find a wallpaper for like a secondary pc

730
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,319
and i went into google images and the

731
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:09,520
search by exact size or larger than where you can like type in the numbers

732
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,680
it's just gone so

733
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,880
i don't know that's about it but i'm just really annoyed because why remove

734
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:22,160
it maybe have it like a bit harder to get to if you don't want

735
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,839
it around but i don't why you'd remove it using google's advanced image search

736
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,440
feature you can still filter by sizes larger than certain megapixel counts but

737
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:33,440
the ability to filter by exact size isn't available there

738
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,880
bing by contrast apparently does still offer the exact size image filtering

739
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:41,440
it's too bad that is a steaming pile of garbage

740
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:46,480
yeah so now it's time for the super chats

741
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:51,040
hey chats you super nope says mighty car mods car pc collab

742
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,559
we would love to they're not exactly located close to here

743
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:58,960
um the stuff that they work on is big the stuff that we work on is big

744
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,839
time consuming that is a fairly major project we're not saying no

745
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,440
we're just saying uh not yet

746
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:11,040
human gilly says Linus when are you going to come to australia i would love

747
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,040
to come to australia there we go

748
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:15,839
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but i'm not going there to work

749
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:22,240
gamer55 sends a dollar thank you

750
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,880
rust is rust i too god i don't know what that says keep it the great work

751
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:31,280
everyone why thank you alexander says new batch of stealth

752
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,440
hoodies when uh next week

753
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,040
tony says Linus is beautiful you knew i was going to read that i wasn't going to

754
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:42,079
gloss over that one engram says love the earrings don't lie

755
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,760
to me people are just

756
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:47,760
tommy gunn are you going to revive Channel Super Fun soon we want to we

757
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:51,040
haven't had time yet it is on the road map

758
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:54,880
why is your back is there an update on Floatplane merge um

759
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:58,000
not yet we will we will do Floatplane merch

760
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:02,800
eventually uh joshua says any plan to look at via's

761
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:11,240
weird x86 chips i didn't know they were making new x86 chips

762
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:11,240
via the new CPU you gotta be kidding me

763
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,880
okay so this is like

764
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,319
september last year

765
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:25,599
hmm oh i think that we tried to get one

766
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:29,839
and then didn't but i i don't know i wasn't involved in

767
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:34,079
that so interesting yeah we could try again um

768
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,400
yeah it looks like it's like a weird chinese processor or something

769
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,359
a lot of time that stuff's really hard to get out of china but

770
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,960
we did get our hands on the honor tv so uh oh yeah that should give you guys

771
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:53,119
some idea how our sourcing in china game is going

772
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,960
owen says hi apologies for this but hit you up on d forum by dm okay good to

773
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:00,720
know uh sport says hi from switzerland just a

774
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:04,559
fellow vancouverite creating swiss LTT fans here all right cool

775
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:11,040
uh Linus when do you get so handsome uh it's a filter did you hear about that

776
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:12,640
no the like um the old lady in china who

777
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:17,119
was using a filter um to be like a cam girl

778
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,200
well this is awesome i don't know if they talked about this on WAN Show uh

779
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,599
filter you mean on tech link china

780
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:29,040
um cam girl i don't know i'm just putting

781
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:33,680
in every keyword that could that i think might help me bring this up

782
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:36,240
uh this young vloggers beauty filter

783
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:40,000
glitched midstream revealing a 58 year old woman

784
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,680
that is apparently a real-time filter that she was applying to her streams

785
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:52,640
that's actually pretty impressive it's really impressive yeah you got like the

786
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:57,760
face shaping going on there like nose shaping

787
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:02,480
eye shaping like has anyone found that this is fake

788
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:06,640
news i haven't found any uh i haven't found any evidence to suggest

789
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:12,480
that it is fake but i also oh wait oh wow this is bbc

790
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,480
okay yep it's probably fine

791
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:19,839
and i didn't find any other pictures because it'd be nice to have more than

792
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:24,640
just one still like a video of the stream might be kind of cool but yeah

793
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,880
saw that thought that was pretty pretty fascinating

794
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,920
i don't remember how we got on that subject right yeah that's what i'm doing

795
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:37,040
ah what else we got here i bought tickets for last ltx but

796
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:42,400
couldn't go still glad i could contribute can't wait to go next year see you there connor

797
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:47,040
uh the novaron do gym shorts at the ltd store i actually totally want to do

798
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:51,520
workout clothes uh i want basically i want to stop paying for my badminton

799
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:55,440
clothes that's my secret agenda so if you guys could all buy a bunch of it so

800
00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:59,599
that i don't have to buy well i mean i buy it i buy all of it but like

801
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:03,280
i don't know whatever the point is it feels different i wanna yeah it feel it

802
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:07,680
feels different it feels different when instead of like going to a store to buy

803
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:10,480
this RAM shirt uh lloyd or nick just walks into my office and gives me a

804
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:14,400
stack of RAM shirts and it's like hey you gotta promote this now and i'm like cool i love this thing

805
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,319
um so yes i paid for it in fact i paid more

806
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:24,240
than you guys because i actually like hired employees to create it but um

807
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:28,799
yeah you got samples those are not cheap doesn't matter yeah actually

808
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:34,960
did you guys know like how much freaking samples cost it'll be anywhere from like

809
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,640
3x to 30x what the the finished product

810
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,160
will be for stuff that's as simple as like a mousepad or whatever actually

811
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:45,440
mousepads are a bad example because the samples are pretty cheap for that because it's mostly like a digital

812
00:57:42,799 --> 00:57:50,240
printing process now but uh did i just give something away yeah i think so

813
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:52,880
we're doing a mouse pad uh anyway mike says do you know anything about

814
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:57,839
fixing yourself oh yeah i do

815
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,839
just go see dr pollock

816
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,000
uh i'm not reading your username but says i

817
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:09,599
would i was wondering if you'd be willing to do an episode on the history of pc sound and sound hardware didn't we

818
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,319
kind of do that that's really interesting um i don't think so not to

819
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,640
the degree of depth that this individual is probably hoping for because there is

820
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:23,280
a lot that went on there sound used to be a much much more demanding thing

821
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,640
before uh microsoft basically took the whole thing and put it in software with

822
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:30,240
Windows vista i feel like lazy game reviews has a good video on that

823
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,200
probably um cooper says hey guys been a fan since

824
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:39,520
i had a barely functional 5850 now i'm rocking a watercool 2080 ti

825
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:43,200
what 2000 sarah component do you miss the most

826
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,200
none of them

827
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:51,119
there were some cool cases back then you probably wouldn't remember any of

828
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:53,280
this stuff but um man check out this thing

829
00:58:55,839 --> 00:59:03,760
oh yes is the thermaltake zazer series

830
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:05,839
these were some flashy pants friggin

831
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,799
computer cases guys let's check this shiz out

832
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,640
what else we got here oh man look at this blue one

833
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:18,640
i think the zazer 3 was oh is this the three

834
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,200
no i wanted the two oh yeah

835
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,040
that's the one i was looking for look at this thing it's beautiful

836
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:28,799
aluminum construction this was like a premium case back then this was like

837
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:32,640
gamer love it look at these one of these

838
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:37,599
builds from back then that's like that's like a show build you know did it have

839
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:41,520
cathodes in it uh oh probably like this is this was like in

840
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:47,119
advertising no one would even dare show that on like

841
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:51,060
build.gg or whatever these days it's great um what else we got

842
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:56,240
um uh dyslexicon says spending money on

843
00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:02,319
super chat that won't get read and i'm pretty sure you lied two dollars is usually the uh the free one

844
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,319
but i read it so now you're a double liar uh joey says can you lower shipping

845
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:12,240
costs for canadians they are as low as they are um those are our shipping costs

846
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:13,599
we don't make profit on the shipping

847
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:19,280
so the only way for us to lower our shipping costs is to do more volume through canada post basically

848
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:23,119
uh adam says been watching LTT since ncix love to see the changes over the

849
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:27,440
years keep up the good work andrew says i used your code to buy shroud's coffee

850
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,119
at madrid his coffee is pretty good actually yeah

851
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:35,680
but he used our code okay you know what he used our code thank you

852
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:39,760
but not to buy our coffee it's okay i'm over it yeah uh dalsem

853
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:43,520
says i would love an armored swag kit for a motorbike okay that would be so

854
01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:48,240
much friggin work do you know how hard it was to do the swag it as it is

855
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:52,319
i love it and it was totally worth it but like

856
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:56,960
no put some goalie gear outside of it yeah why not oh yeah sure it's that

857
01:00:54,400 --> 01:01:00,079
simple thank you um jackson

858
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:03,760
i'm 13 years old i love your show just wanted to say hey

859
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:08,839
hey back where are the like buttons on Floatplane luke's working on it

860
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:13,839
all right so hold on a minute oh yeah okay this was robert mail

861
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:18,400
thank you i just saw that finally now uh a broken tv says i wrote a stage play

862
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:22,000
alex you can't do that it'll ruin the company minus you misunderstand i am the

863
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:27,200
company i think we could work that line into it

864
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:32,400
if we did a stage play sure um oh where'd it go it just moved

865
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:37,040
someone said new intro when uh not sure i may just kill the intro

866
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,280
yeah maybe we just won't have an intro

867
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:44,400
anymore because like people who drop out during the intro our watch time that we don't

868
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:49,040
have maybe we just don't need to uh maybe we don't need to like

869
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,160
brand ourselves to death with that said the amount of branding that we've done

870
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,760
not just for the channel but also for the company i think has contributed to

871
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:59,599
um people's awareness of us in general so

872
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:03,200
i'm not sure what the right answer is yeah

873
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,720
uh the phoenix i just got my swaggett stealth hoodie processor shirt hat and

874
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,119
underwear is all awesome and worth every penny thank you phoenix

875
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:14,799
um mcringleborot can't wait for the LTT

876
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:18,880
sandals can't wait to be the first to resell them on goat

877
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:22,720
what is goat i'm like afraid to google this

878
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:28,799
goat is it like something to do with shoes

879
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:34,799
goat shoes goat.com the safest way to buy i'm sorry what what what is this

880
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:36,720
oh no i licked my fingers oh gross sharp

881
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:41,839
hands oh gross okay

882
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:48,040
why did i do that i deserve it for eating on stream

883
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,040
all right what the heck is this

884
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:59,040
so is it just like is it just a shoe store i think it's selling like

885
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:03,680
hard to get shoes maybe like how much do those cost

886
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:08,480
125 bucks that seems pretty reasonable or used for 120.

887
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,559
oh okay so this is a used marketplace then

888
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:17,280
okay so you want to resell them on goad

889
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:18,319
wow um okay i mean everybody has to have

890
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,400
goals and that's important to maintain your

891
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:26,559
focus so i commend you for it

892
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:31,680
uh okay

893
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:34,480
i think that's pretty much all we can do

894
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:39,520
for now thank you guys so much for tuning in we'll see you again next week

895
01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:41,320
same bad time same bat channel

896
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,559
so long

897
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:54,079
oh i can't believe we didn't finish the video today

898
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:59,619
yeah i'm so disappointed i wanted to know if it was gonna work

899
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,720
i still want to know if it's going to work yeah

900
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,880
i'm still concerned it's going to catch on fire