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All right. So, assuming all of that worked, I am now

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live. Live doing something that I have

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wanted to do for a long time. Ever since

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CES 2016 when I got my first look at the

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marvelous, the magnificent, the

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majestic MSI

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G65 Vortex gaming computer.

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I'm going to be taking it apart. I'm going to be taking every single screw

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out of it and I am going to be reducing it to its mirror components so we can

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find out exactly what makes this thing tick with three camera angles. Yes, my

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friends, I have a dedicated close-up cam. I took all the feedback you gave me

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from my last live stream where I had like the world's shoddiest webcam as

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like my close-up and I uh made it even better. So without any further ado,

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description. Yeah, without any further ado, let's start opening this baby up.

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Now, I actually have a full disassembly guide provided by MSI, which is funny

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cuz last time they I they let me see this thing. They wouldn't let me take

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the panels off of it even. But, I'm going to try to get away with not using

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it to the greatest extent that I possibly can. So, here on the bottom,

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actually, I'll get you guys a look at the close-up cam here. So, here on the

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bottom, I've got not a whole lot of much of anything to speak of. Uh, no screws,

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no nothing. just the power input down there. I actually really like the way

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they did the power input and I'm hoping to find out exactly how they handled the

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cable management. It's funny for my review of this device. Um, they actually

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took it apart in my absence. I have never seen the inside of it yet, even

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though our review actually has internal shots. So, uh, so there you go. So, I'm

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looking forward to checking that out. Um, other than that, there's just IO.

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There's six uh security torque screws on

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the back. So, you will need something like an iFixit tool kit in order to take

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this baby apart. And other than that, there's nothing. See, the top is just

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just plain. Bottom's plain. Front just has these plastic panels. So, without

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any further ado, let's uh let's get this baby started. So, I've got not one but

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two iix it kits. This stream brought to you by iFixit. Actually, no. They

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haven't sponsored anything with us in a long time. But it's like

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realistically, well, like I lose track

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of what camera I'm talking to. Hello. Uh, realistically, I What else am I

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going to use? I mean, they they sent us their kits, um, which I used to augment

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the kit of theirs that I already had and already used for everything. Actually,

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speaking of, uh, speaking of I fix it and them not sponsoring this stream,

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where is my Ah, yes. Here's my other

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handy dandy thing from from those guys

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which doesn't have the pen. Why can no one keep anything where

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it's supposed to be? This is my uh this is my handy little little mat that I

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have where I can label where all the screws came from that I took out. But uh

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it's supposed to have one of those overhead projector pens for those of you

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who are old enough to remember overhead projectors. And I don't see it. This is

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a permanent marker. I do not want to use that. Uh perhaps a dry erase marker. Um

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Brandon, could you obtain me a dry erase marker? Be a dear. There's one behind

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you. Actually, very close to you. Yes, that would be perfect. And if that one

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doesn't work very well, I may need a different one. Thank you, sir. All right. So, wow,

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that really, really does not work very well. Um, but we're going to have to

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we're going to have to go with it. So, this is a little magnetic mat that will

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help me keep track of my screws so that I don't accidentally lose

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them. Even better than a magnetic parts tray. I wish it was more magnetic.

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That's sort of the one thing that I could that I could complain about, but

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uh that's okay. So, I'll try and give you guys a good good view of what it is

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that I'm doing here. Sorry. My my monitors for the stream are my laptop,

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which is next to me on my right here, right actually under the camera you guys

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are looking at, and then also the

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computer that

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is over over there. So, I'm going to be

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kind of looking all over the place during the stream, but I'll do my best

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to keep that as nondistracting as I possibly can. I am sort of new to this

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whole u you know, multicamming it myself thing.

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One thing I think I would like to adjust though is that camera's position above

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me. I think it's a little bit too wide of a shot, but I really don't know if

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there's much that I can do about that right

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now. Okay. 1 2 3 4 5 and six. I hate

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security torques. It's one of those things where

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like it's bad enough you put a torque screw on it. Like I can't it's it's hard

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for normal people who don't have a bunch of, you know, tools designed for taking

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apart electric gizmos. Um like it's it's it's bad enough to

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have Torx on it in the first place. Security Torx is just adding insult to injury. Okay, so there you go. Um first

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piece is off. So that warranty sticker is already uh tampered as hell. So why

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don't we tamper it some more? H take that MSI blah blah blah blah blah. Think

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my warranty is void now. Anyway, um that that's from John

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actually taking it apart for B-roll in the video. But this gives us a good look

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at the first plastic piece that I've taken off here. So, actually this Oh, is

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this one metal? No, it couldn't be, could

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it? Interesting. I can't I actually can't

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tell, which is pretty unusual for me. I

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think it is. No, can't be. Wait. Oh, okay. So,

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there's a couple of uh there's a couple strips here for the RGB lighting. So,

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those are just kind of like transparent uh transparent strips here. And then um

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yeah, or actually I don't even know if there's lighting in that part. Maybe.

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Okay. Hard to say. Whatever. There. Now, we don't have that anymore. Okay. So,

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let's see what else we got going on here. That gave us access to a couple of

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more screws here. So, there's one here and here.

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Let's tamper that warranty some more. Uh, yep. There we

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go. Boom. Come on out, you magnetic

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bastard. There we go. And this guy. So, this will take off

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hopefully that uh MSI Dragon

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logo. And I'm going to have to make sure that I do a Oh crap, I just dropped a

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screw. Uh uh oh. Oh, there it is. Ha. All is

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well. Yes, for now. Plenty of time to

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screw that up later. So, I'm going to call this

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next to

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dragon. Dragon. Hopefully that someone

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knows what that means. Okay, that didn't really seem to do a

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whole lot though. I am not able to

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really remove anything extra that I couldn't remove before. I've got a

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couple screws right down here that I can

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access now. But uh maybe we can just pry off maybe we can just pry off the cup.

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Oh, all right. Well, that was easy. Oh,

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easy up until now. This is the thing I just I just hate about it's like I don't

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have an answer for them cuz as far as I can tell it's the only way to do like a

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clean seamless outer shell. But

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like these uh Oh wow. I think I just popped that right off. But these uh

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these screwless designs, they have to use all these really flimsy plastic

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clips, you know. I think I managed to not break any though so far. These ones

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all look intact. Uh that might have chipped.

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Actually hard to tell. These ones all look intact. Not bad. All right. Go T

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minus. Uh here we've got a little cable managed. Um looks like it looks like an

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RGB LED. So I think this actually has to

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sit under here. And that might have been

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uh that might have been popped off as

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sort of a derp when we were taking it apart and reassembling it. I'm actually

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not entirely sure about that. Oh, maybe you know what? No, I think I'm wrong. I

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think it just sits down here. Uh, well, like I think I said

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earlier in the stream, I don't actually plan to put this back together. I'm just

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going to send it to MSI in pieces so they can make sure that it's done

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exactly correctly. Uh, the other thing in here is power for that LED. So, you

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can see there's a little lead right here that plugs into a

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uh there you go into a little spot on

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the highly custom uh PCB that they've

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got going on right here. I mean, look at this

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thing. You've got uh what appears to be

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an MXM slot. So, that would be for one of

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the GTX 980s. Remember, these are 980s,

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not 980M. Then you've got um an M.2

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slot. Then you've got whatever the devil this is. Looks like some kind of a

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support brace. And then you've got like, you know, an RGB LED thing. H more

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warranty stickers. Oh, I am totally totally taking that off. All right. So,

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let's see if we can get the other side open

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here. H. The other one popped off kind

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of from the back. So, where did the I where did the IO even go? Oh, there it

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is. Thought I I thought I lost the USB port.

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Mercy.

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Um. Oh. Okay. All right. Well, this will

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give us a look at the other side here then. So, uh, a lot of a lot of very

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similar. So, we've got another

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MXM graphics card or another MXM slot on

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another custom PCB. Uh, this one does not have an M.2 drive slot on it,

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though. So, you can see this one is just pure graphics card. Is it using the same

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heat sink or have they actually created two separate heat

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sinks? It appears to use Yes, it uses

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exactly the same cooler module. So they

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did manage to reuse that aspect of the design. So that's that's a good thing I

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suppose. And then the other thing that we get access to for the first time over

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here is the four sodium memory slots

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that are actually on a separate PCB yet again. So it looks like because PCBs are

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flat and not round, uh we're ending up

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with very similar to the um well the

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only other trash can shaped computer. you're ending up with kind of an arrangement on the inside of these flat

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surfaces with actually surprisingly little wasted space in this case uh due

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to the curvature of the exterior. So check this out. You can actually see if

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I show it to you from this angle and and they actually didn't go quite straight

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round either. They actually kind of angled it a little bit in the places

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where they could in order to um take advantage of things like the flat tops

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of heat sinks like uh like this one for example. See that? So right here at the

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at the widest points you're going to find the corners of PCBs in all

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likelihood. Let's see if that uh holds true. So over here actually no. Okay. So

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you've got the RAM sticking up in that case. And then I think we've got one

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more of those where yes, you are finding the uh ends of both of the GPU PCBs

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right here at the front. So the graphics cards then here, just giving you guys a

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better look at it now that we've stripped off all the outer shell. The graphics cards are in the

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front with uh the CPU junk and RAM junk

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and IO junk in the trunk, so to speak. So there's your CPU heat sink, which I

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don't think I had specifically pointed out before. And here's the first uh the

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first hint at the nightmare that is to come. I mean, even compared to a laptop,

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this thing is going to be horrendous to uh take apart and put back together.

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There's one of those like awful ribbon cables that if you've ever disassembled,

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you know, your cell phone or your tablet or or a particularly compact laptop, I'm

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sure you've encountered. Um they are they are very fragile and can be can be

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a bit of a pain to deal with. So, now

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we've got all those stripped off. I need to find more screws to take

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apart. It looks to me as though there's got to be ways to

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strip off more of the outer

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chassis before we start pulling out

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PCBs. So, I'm going to try I'm not sure

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if this is going to work, but I'm going to try to take off this front piece

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right here.

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There we go. Oh, there's another one of

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those uh there's another one of those little ribbon connectors. It's actually

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got a black tape over it in this case.

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Whoops. Okay. So, let's put those babies right there. I'm going to find out if

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these ones on the bottom are the same and then I can label them all the same. I may even run out of label slots on a

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project like this. couple down here. Are they the same?

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Yes, they are. Very nice. Okay. I always appreciate that. That's something that

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just baffles me when I see it where

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you'll have a single product and it'll have like for no

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apparent reason, it'll just have, you know, five different screw head types on

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it, for example. So, you need all these different screwdrivers to take it apart. And I just kind of

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go, why? Like, isn't this more work for

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you, too? Every screw, every little tiny oop,

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there it goes. Every little tiny widget is a skew for you. You have to inventory

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it all separately. So, why are you going out of your way to make my life and

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yours more difficult? All right. So, right here we've got the power button.

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So, that was plugged in with that little um that little sleeved ribbon cable

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there. Um yeah, it lights up. It does power. It's uh it slices. It dices. Uh

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some plastic piece. Okay. So, we can put that aside for now. I'm also going to

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label these puppies. So, uh let's see.

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Front

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fascia. Sure.

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Okay. Rock on. So, let's see what we're going to do next then.

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I'd love to remove more of this back piece, but I'm not actually

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sure how that's going to

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work. Let's see. So, there's some screws

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down here. There's one, two right there.

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Uh oh. Oh, look at that. This has already got some flex to it. So, maybe

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that is just a matter of popping out those screws down there. Let's find out.

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Uh, people are asking why I'm taking note of where the screws go if I don't

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plan on reassembling it. Well, um, I

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don't know. I mean, Cliff from MSI, he

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might get all like mad and threaten to

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threaten to brutally harm me if uh if I

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don't put it back together. So, I'm going to see if I can get away with not putting it back together because I

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mostly just don't feel like it because once I'm done with this stream, I'm done

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with it. I'm sending it back to them. Um, but if they make me put it back

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together, then I will. I try to be a nice guy, you know, except when I'm not.

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Uh, all right. Let's have a look

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here. So, this is definitely looser now.

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See, you can see we've got uh we've got a lot of play in the bottom now, and

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we've still got that play in the top, but it's also not quite ready to let go,

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you know? You know, like all the kids but

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the youngest one are moved out of the house. And you know, mama's like,

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"Little Johnny, little Johnny, stay home. Just live with us

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forever. I'm not ready to let go."

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And little Johnny's like,

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"Mom, I don't know why we have the same voice, but I got a girlfriend now, and

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she really wants me to move out with her." And mama says, "Johnny, you can

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bring your girlfriend here. I don't mind if she's a if she's an ugly skank and

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she hates my waffles. I'll put up with her for you, Johnny. Just stay,

00:17:50.520 --> 00:18:00.160
Johnny." Um, I think this is still attached.

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So, let's go ahead and see if we can see

00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:07.799
if we can remove maybe the top fan will come off

00:18:04.840 --> 00:18:14.039
next. H. So, we've got this little screw here.

00:18:11.360 --> 00:18:21.360
It's actually surprisingly few screw. Whoa, that just that just wanted to jump

00:18:17.600 --> 00:18:24.360
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00:20:06.760 --> 00:20:13.200
screws. Hey. Hey. Just like that, ladies and gentlemen.

00:20:11.919 --> 00:20:16.559
Who am I kidding? There's no ladies watching. Um, all right. So, there's a

00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:19.919
couple things I'm gonna have to do before I can properly remove

00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:28.640
this. So, this

00:20:24.840 --> 00:20:32.520
um Ah, dang it. I need a flathead. I

00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:35.440
need a flathead. There we go. Okay, so

00:20:32.520 --> 00:20:40.760
this and wireless antenna needs to pop off as does this one. So, it looks like

00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:43.080
MSI has

00:20:40.760 --> 00:20:46.720
um put their antenna. Oh, interesting. Oh, there's

00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:50.960
another thing I'm going to have to remove over here. Hold on. Sorry, guys.

00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:54.640
It's kind of hard to It's kind of hard to grab onto now without mashing

00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:58.360
something important. So, uh there's another little fragile connector over

00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:04.320
here that I've got to remove. So, they've put their antennas

00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:06.159
in the in the in the roof here. And then

00:21:04.320 --> 00:21:10.960
we actually also get to have a look at where the fan for the top. So this is

00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:14.640
the one fan that cools the whole thing. So we can have a look at where that fan

00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:18.720
is plugged in as well. This uh right right there. Hoping I'm getting you guys

00:21:16.320 --> 00:21:22.240
a good look at it. But uh sometimes I just have to kind of hope for the Oh.

00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:26.400
Oh, interesting. Okay. What we also have here Wow, there's like four leads to

00:21:23.840 --> 00:21:32.480
this thing. Jeez. What we also have here is the power for that MSI Dragon logo

00:21:30.080 --> 00:21:37.200
that they're so uh so fond of putting on things. So, hold on. Where's my

00:21:34.159 --> 00:21:41.280
flathead? There we go. Come on. Come on,

00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:44.120
baby. Come on, baby. There you go, baby.

00:21:41.280 --> 00:21:49.360
Just Just get off there. Okay. Perfect. All right. So, we've got Jeez,

00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:54.320
no. There's even more than I thought. Okay. All right. Let's have a closer

00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:58.080
look at this bad boy. So, we've got what

00:21:54.320 --> 00:22:00.799
looks like uh four wires for the PWM fan

00:21:58.080 --> 00:22:05.200
custom connector. We've got one wire for antenna. There's actually a metal metal

00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:11.440
housing around this thing. They are they are serious about this fan here. Holy

00:22:08.919 --> 00:22:15.720
crap. Okay, we've got another wireless antenna over on the other side. They've

00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:21.679
got those nice and separated. We've got whatever the crap this is. That's

00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:21.679
another four pin. What is that

00:22:22.600 --> 00:22:28.559
for? I will confess to you that I do not

00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:35.520
know because I don't see anything else up here. There's just the fan and the

00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:40.400
other side of the fan. So, we've got power for the LED. We've got Oh, hold on

00:22:38.159 --> 00:22:45.360
a second. No, I see what it's for. So, this is just a cable management. This is

00:22:42.320 --> 00:22:46.799
just running over to that um that duad

00:22:45.360 --> 00:22:50.720
that we connected from the side panel if I recall correctly. All right. So, that

00:22:49.120 --> 00:22:57.120
that takes care of of everything that that is. All right. So, let's go ahead and catch up on my uh catch up on my

00:22:53.919 --> 00:22:59.159
labeling here. So, this was Oh, crap.

00:22:57.120 --> 00:23:05.480
What was this from? Um, okay. Top

00:23:03.320 --> 00:23:13.840
fan. Top fan.

00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:13.840
Uh. Um. Uh. Bottom IO. There we

00:23:14.120 --> 00:23:20.960
go. I assure you that when I'm not broadcasting live, I am much more

00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:24.720
organized about this type of thing. As you guys can probably imagine, it is a

00:23:23.360 --> 00:23:29.360
lot of things to focus on to be disassembling a computer, broadcasting a

00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:34.559
live stream, and trying to keep track of uh you know, all of the strange

00:23:31.919 --> 00:23:39.520
creatures that are inhabiting your building that you that you work in every

00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:45.760
day. All right, so the next thing we see here is that yes, I was indeed correct.

00:23:43.360 --> 00:23:51.600
Uh this back piece right here is being held on by this uh looks Yeah, it's a

00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:54.760
metal brace that is securing it to a few

00:23:51.600 --> 00:23:57.200
different things. So there's the power

00:23:54.760 --> 00:24:01.120
supply. Uh here let me get that centered in the frame for you guys. So there's

00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:07.280
the power supply, there's the GPU heat sinks, CPU heat sink, and then this

00:24:03.760 --> 00:24:08.799
looks like the main like motherboard. I

00:24:07.280 --> 00:24:13.360
mean main board is also a word for motherboard. Don't stress. So, but this

00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.760
Yeah, it's not actually secured to that. So, the power supply is secured to the

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:23.039
main board. And then this rear daughter board is secured to the power supply as

00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:27.039
are the others. So, there's these L brackets that kind of go like this and

00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:31.840
like that. So, the first thing I'll need to do is remove this one. Hi, can I help

00:24:30.159 --> 00:24:36.720
you? Are you streaming this? Yeah. Well, you didn't tweet out that you're live. I

00:24:33.520 --> 00:24:40.159
didn't? No. Oh. Uh, can you do that?

00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:42.240
Thank you. Oh crap. I left my

00:24:40.159 --> 00:24:47.720
screwdriver at home, my orange ones. So, I'm actually a little bit

00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:52.600
ill equipped.

00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:57.039
Okay. Wow, those are really tight. Let's go ahead and pull that

00:24:58.120 --> 00:25:03.120
out. Okay, there we

00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:09.679
go. I see someone saying shoes are optional in the Atlantis Media Group

00:25:07.520 --> 00:25:14.799
office. Actually, that's not true. Uh, shoes are required to be taken off

00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:18.000
unless you have your indoor shoes here. So, some people leave indoor shoes at

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:22.720
the office and other people just don't wear shoes, which is their their choice.

00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:29.279
Personally, I'm not into the whole no shoe thing because there's only one type

00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:33.120
of footwear I need. Okay, so this baby

00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:35.760
has looks like three ribbon cables, each

00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:38.960
of which are are cleverly labeled, which is helpful, I guess. Let me see if I can

00:25:37.679 --> 00:25:46.559
get you guys a better look at that. There you go. So, you got your L, you got your R, you got your

00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.559
the

00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:55.400
K1C_1026026_H39, whatever the devil that's supposed to mean. So, let's go

00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:57.679
ahead and flip these up.

00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:01.039
Flippity. That one's not a flip up one. Hold on. Where's my flathead?

00:25:59.679 --> 00:26:07.600
Technically, I should be using a plastic flathead for this. It's okay. Don't worry. I'm a professional. Okay. And

00:26:05.919 --> 00:26:11.440
then this one right here is not actually the same type. This is one of those one

00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:17.240
of those push down on it ones. So I'm gonna have to lift

00:26:14.520 --> 00:26:20.200
lift. Oh crap. It is one of those. Well, hopefully it's only a

00:26:19.360 --> 00:26:23.960
little broken. How the crap. Oh, okay. Yeah,

00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:28.720
seems fine. Cool. All right. So, let's give

00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:33.120
you guys a good look at this. So, back here you've got actually a lot of a lot

00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:41.200
of action going on. Like there's a mini PCIe card over here.

00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:43.120
which would be fairly baffling to me if

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:49.039
I wasn't looking at their again very handily and cleverly labeled ribbon

00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:50.799
cables here. So, this one says PCH. So,

00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:56.640
that's for the platform controller hub. That means that the the south bridge,

00:26:53.679 --> 00:27:00.720
the traditional south bridge is actually on this

00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:07.039
daughterboard. So, this is really clever for a number of reasons. Uh, number one

00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:08.640
is that it means that they don't have to

00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:13.919
they don't have to try and use extensions for all of this high-speed IO

00:27:11.120 --> 00:27:19.440
back here. Like we've got four USB 3 ports, 2 GB Ethernet, two HDMIs, um, oh,

00:27:18.080 --> 00:27:22.640
it looks like all the display stuff is down there. Okay, so that's B and and

00:27:21.120 --> 00:27:26.960
audio. So that's basically what we've got back there. So, instead of having

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:32.880
all that stuff, instead of having the Southbridge, which handles all of those

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:35.840
things, let me think, not HDMI, unless

00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:41.200
it's using Intel's onboard video in some way. Don't quote me on that. Do not

00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:46.440
quote me on that. I'm actually not sure why those HDMI ports are there, but all

00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:53.360
that other stuff would be handled by the PCH. So, by just having what would

00:27:49.919 --> 00:27:55.360
effectively be traces inside the PCB of

00:27:53.360 --> 00:28:00.159
a motherboard just be done through a ribbon cable like this, MSI has removed

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:05.600
all of that stuff and they were able to make use of a tiny little bit of space

00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:09.279
inside the chassis. So, you can see here it's just this this bit of space right

00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.240
here that lives over top of the CPU heat sink that they otherwise would not have

00:28:11.120 --> 00:28:18.200
been able to or they would have had to run extensions which could have interfered with that high-speed IO. So

00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:23.600
really very cool. Um, let's continue our let's

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:26.240
continue our look at this baby. So what else do we got going on here? Oh yeah,

00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:30.799
there's a 2 and a half inch hard drive in here. That's another thing that would

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:34.000
also be on the PCH. So that's where your SATA ports come off of. So again,

00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:38.960
instead of running a SATA cable internally, they've actually just got

00:28:35.919 --> 00:28:40.760
this guy. Uh, is that just like hardline

00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:45.320
plugged in? Where is the port? What the hell?

00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.640
What is going on

00:28:55.159 --> 00:29:04.559
here? Oh, is it this? Shut

00:29:01.159 --> 00:29:06.640
up. Oh, very cool. So, what they've

00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:09.200
actually done here, and I guess we might as well Yeah, I did. I did say I was

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:16.799
going to take this thing apart, so let's take it apart. I'll I'll show you guys exactly what they did here.

00:29:12.919 --> 00:29:18.720
Um, again, more more clever more. Wow,

00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:23.360
that's that's this one's this one's really cool. Haven't actually seen this

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:27.440
before. Even in laptops, uh, you'll typically just have like a like a

00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:31.840
standard a standard SATA cable plugged into a plugged into the back of a

00:29:30.159 --> 00:29:37.279
standard SATA drive. And and when we dig deep enough, that is what we're very

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.279
likely to find

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:42.440
here, but with a twist.

00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:52.240
Okay, so the hard drives Hitachi 1 TBTE

00:29:48.159 --> 00:29:53.440
7200 RPM SATA 6 GB and uh am I going to

00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.279
need to remove a whole another set of screws in order to get it this bad boy?

00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:02.399
What do we got here? Yep. Okay, there they are. More hard drive screws. Don't

00:29:59.760 --> 00:30:06.440
worry though, guys. For you, I will take this as far as I need to.

00:30:07.760 --> 00:30:14.760
Messiah is not going to tell me I can't take apart their computer. Freaking

00:30:12.919 --> 00:30:19.120
guys. Okay. See if we can slide this

00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:27.679
off. Yeah, there we go. So, this slides out now, which gives us a look at this

00:30:25.760 --> 00:30:32.240
actually very clever little system that they've got here. So, they have

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:36.559
converted all of the uh Hold on. I'm just going to check my focus. There we

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:41.200
go. So, they have converted the standard SATA power and data interface into this

00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:46.320
connector. This is that connector that I didn't recognize is actually for the

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:49.480
hard drive. Very cool. All right, so we've extracted that at this point.

00:30:47.679 --> 00:30:55.279
Let's label my hard drive screws. H

00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:57.720
D. Boom. Oh crap. What were these? Ah,

00:30:55.279 --> 00:31:03.760
yes. L bracket. I'm sure someone will be able

00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:06.080
to read that at some point. Okay.

00:31:03.760 --> 00:31:10.480
So, that leaves us pretty much done here. Oh, yeah. No, no, we're not. Okay,

00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:15.679
this is cool, too. So, the other thing on the PCH, this is so clever. I like

00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:21.279
it. Uh, the other thing on the PCH is four PCI Express lanes that are handled

00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:24.799
by the Southbridge. So, there's the uh the DMI whatever something media

00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:29.360
interface. So, that's that's the traditional that's replacement for the

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:34.320
um for crap, I forget what they used to call the link between the north bridge

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.279
and the south bridge. Uh was it FSB?

00:31:34.320 --> 00:31:42.960
Can't remember. Anyway, um so most of the PCIe lanes in a modern Intel CPU run

00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:49.360
off of the CPU itself, but it's also got the DMI interface to the chipset that

00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:55.679
has four PCIe lanes effectively running off of it. So that's how we were able to

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.039
have a mini PCIe Wi-Fi card sitting over

00:31:55.679 --> 00:32:01.200
here on this daughterboard. So everything that's on here is stuff that

00:31:59.120 --> 00:32:07.360
runs off the PCH. And I'm not expecting then to find anything that runs off of

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:09.200
the PCH anywhere else inside the system.

00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:12.960
Uh oh, I never did figure out what that So, one of them, yeah, one of them is

00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:17.799
labeled uh PCH and the other one is labeled PC. No, they're both labeled

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:20.080
PCH, actually. Very cool. I love

00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:24.519
that. Hopefully, I didn't completely misinterpret what they did here, but I I

00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:28.240
don't I don't think so. All right, now we are really getting

00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.200
somewhere. So, the first thing I'm going to do is remove the rest of these uh

00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:36.799
these brackets here. Don't want them. I don't need

00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.840
them. I go,

00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:53.519
girlfriend. Wow. Lot of lot more screws than I had sort of anticipated. That's

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:56.480
okay. I will change the angle to mix things up for you guys. I'm just showing

00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:02.240
off at this point. I love this three camera setup actually. This makes it so

00:32:59.360 --> 00:33:08.559
much easier for me to just work as opposed to trying to tinker around with

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:12.000
stupid stuff like uh oh well let me grab my webcam and oh now I only have one

00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:17.039
hand to actually do things while I'm trying to show you guys something

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:19.440
stupid. Um one thing I don't like about

00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:24.399
this setup that you guys actually I don't think can see in any of the angles

00:33:22.320 --> 00:33:29.279
um actually maybe you can see it in this one. Let me see. Yeah, this uh this

00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:33.399
wireless Bluetooth keyboard that I'm using to change scenes, it's broken in

00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:37.840
the weirdest way. Um something about the power delivery is

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:44.640
broken on it. So, we even tried replacing the battery. That didn't fix it at all. So, it won't hold a charge.

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:47.159
It won't operate um it won't operate on

00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:51.519
on battery at all. Even with a brand new one, even with one charged in our other

00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:56.960
identical unit, like if the battery is charged up, that doesn't help. And get this, and people are going to call BS on

00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:02.399
this, and I don't blame you because I would too. It only works if it's plugged

00:34:00.080 --> 00:34:07.039
into the wall. I cannot plug it into a battery bank. Not even a good battery

00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:12.800
bank. Not even a 2 amp battery bank. Doesn't matter. I must plug it into the

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.320
wall in order for it to operate at all.

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:17.760
And that's actually one delayed the stream by another 5 minutes or so

00:34:15.919 --> 00:34:21.440
because I accidentally unplugged it, which unpairs it, and then it kind of

00:34:19.520 --> 00:34:26.000
flakes out. So, I had to I had to completely restart everything. Re-plug

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:31.359
in the Bluetooth dongle, re undo the Anyway, um yeah, so I have to like I

00:34:29.359 --> 00:34:35.040
that's why the the connector is taped in there. Um it would be really nice if I

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:41.040
was able to have a wireless one like I use for the main set, but that one's paired to our our camera, so I I have

00:34:38.720 --> 00:34:47.040
not done that. Okay, so all those brackets are off, but that doesn't seem

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:49.399
to help us much. Maybe I'll leave it to

00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:53.760
you guys. Do you want to see Do you guys want to see Yeah,

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.480
everyone's calling BS on me. I don't even care. Um, do you guys want to see

00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:01.920
the CPU off first or the GPU off? No. You know what? I don't think I'm going

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:08.720
to get the CPU off first. So, forget it. It's a lie. Fine. Let's stick with this.

00:35:05.200 --> 00:35:12.160
The right side or the left side? Come

00:35:08.720 --> 00:35:15.760
on, guys. Right side. Left side. Right

00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:17.800
side. Left side. Right side. Left side.

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:23.920
Which one you want? Right or left? Damn, I hate this uh stream delay.

00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:29.440
Everyone's asking for the CPU. Damn, I hate Twitch chat. I'm just going to pick

00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:31.599
one. You guys are so useless sometimes.

00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:37.359
Um I love you dearly, but man, are you guys useless sometimes.

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:38.960
Uh such trolls. Such trolls. So, let's

00:35:37.359 --> 00:35:42.760
go ahead. I'm going to start removing GPU screws here.

00:35:43.839 --> 00:35:51.880
Everyone calling for the bottom. Free the bottom. Wow. Was that

00:35:49.720 --> 00:35:56.640
it? Hold on a second. Where? Which screws hold this

00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.960
in? It's actually very hard for me to tell. Okay, so this is interesting.

00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:04.560
Ouch. I'm going to cut myself on one of these heat sinks for sure. So, aside

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:12.240
from the screw holding it in, I don't know how well you guys can see this. And you know what? I could zoom this

00:36:08.680 --> 00:36:15.280
actually.Oop boop. Yeah. Oh man, I love

00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:18.400
this setup. Okay. So, there we go. Get

00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:21.520
that focus. Come on, baby. Come on,

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:23.920
baby. Nice. So, there's the screw I just

00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:28.240
removed uh right there with the uh the copper visible around it. Right next to

00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:31.920
it is a little tab that actually keeps you from sliding the GPU out, even if

00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:38.800
you do have the screw removed. So, I'm going to be have to be really careful with this to make sure that I get not

00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:44.000
only all of the screws, but also all of

00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.000
the little tabs that go with them.

00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:53.960
H sorry guys, I'm going to have to stall for time because I'm the most stumped

00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:56.880
that I have been so

00:36:53.960 --> 00:37:02.160
far. Which doesn't mean stumped to be very clear. That does not mean stumped.

00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:11.960
You know what? I think what I actually need to do here is remove this

00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:14.599
entire black PCB in order to get at the

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:20.800
module that holds the MXM, the green MXM uh graphics

00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:25.200
card. So, let's have a look

00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:32.240
here. Mhm.

00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:41.480
That looks pretty loose. Let's go ahead and try popping it

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:44.560
off. Nothing to really brace myself on,

00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:47.200
unfortunately. Okay, not stressful at

00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:52.680
all. I mean, it's only a what, $4,000 computer? No big deal. One more screw.

00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:58.480
Oops. Didn't see that one. Her derp.

00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.520
Okay. Come on, baby.

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:05.839
Don't tease me like that. Oh, I've got a ribbon cable here.

00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:15.200
Oh, shoot. What is that connected to? Oh, we got some ribbon cable action. So,

00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:18.400
oh. Oh, it's an SLI bridge. Interesting.

00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:20.960
Okay. Well, that makes sense. I mean,

00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:26.400
that was bound to be in there. I really thought NVIDIA was going to drop the

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.920
whole SLI bridge pretense at some point here.

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:34.079
They still claim that there's some high-speed communication that they do

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:40.560
over it, but that interface is really not very fast by modern standards. Um, I

00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:47.520
mean, we're talking SLI bridge came about back in the PCI Express

00:38:43.640 --> 00:38:49.800
1.0A or whatever days, back in the back

00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:55.280
in the age of the dinosaur when I was a computer

00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:58.520
enthusiast. All right? because, you know, the internet would

00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:02.560
have you believe that I am no longer an enthusiast. I've lost my touch, you

00:39:00.560 --> 00:39:05.920
know. Whoops. Oh, I'm sorry about that. If people get motion sick, I'm sure

00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:09.359
they're motion sick now. Okay, so let's try and pop this other PCB off. See if

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.320
we can remove both graphics cards at the same time, which is funny because that's what some of the trolls in Twitch chat

00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:18.800
were telling me to do. I hate it when they're right. That's the worst. Hold

00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:23.200
on. I need a plastic prying tool. I'm actually going to do this one properly

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:26.160
because um I'm a little bit worried about what I'm prying on

00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:35.160
here. Shoot. There we go. All

00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:40.520
right. Okay. Okay. So, let's pull those

00:39:38.720 --> 00:39:46.040
graphics cards off. Oh, there we go. Oh, thing of

00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:52.040
beauty. Wonderful. So, let's put the base aside for a

00:39:49.839 --> 00:39:59.720
second here. Just going to put this over here. Oh, they fell. Okay. Um Okay,

00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:03.520
let's investigate.

00:39:59.720 --> 00:40:06.520
Ah. Mhm. Damn it. They scratched my

00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:06.520
laptop.

00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:19.880
Well, things I do for you guys. All

00:40:17.640 --> 00:40:25.800
right, so I really don't know if I'm going to go

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:30.240
to the trouble to remove that SLI bridge.

00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:34.800
Um, I mean, unless you guys peer pressured me into it, then we'll then we

00:40:32.720 --> 00:40:40.160
would we would see. But let's have a look at first the more boring of the

00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:44.800
two actually. Oh, what the hey. Let's just let's just keep tearing, shall we?

00:40:43.040 --> 00:40:49.320
Okay, so first I need to label these screws I took out. So, um, these are for

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:56.240
the GPU daughter

00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:58.760
boards. All right. All right. All right. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Shut up,

00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:04.319
Twitch chat. Okay. Where do we start?

00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:08.960
Let's start with the simpler one. So, I'll start with the one that does not

00:41:06.640 --> 00:41:13.000
have um additional stuff on it. This one

00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:16.560
appears to be just straight MXM

00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:29.040
module. So, let's pull the heat sink off the GPU. That's a big beefy heat sink on

00:41:26.319 --> 00:41:32.640
here, man. I mean, compared to what you would

00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:36.160
normally see in a laptop, but then, you know, with how quiet the fan is, I

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:40.640
suspect it's not getting like a whole ton of air flow. So, let's have a look

00:41:38.640 --> 00:41:45.200
at uh let's have a look at that heat sink, then, shall we? Check this out.

00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:50.000
So, we've got a total of three heat pipes. It's using what appears to be a

00:41:47.680 --> 00:41:53.599
vapor chamber down here. So, that spreads out the heat from the GPU so

00:41:51.839 --> 00:41:57.839
that each heat pipe sort of gets an equal amount of it to disperse. Then two

00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:04.000
of the heat pipes are connected simply to this um this thinner part of the heat

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:09.760
sink assembly right here with a third one dedicated to bringing heat out to

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:12.240
what is actually probably about I'd say

00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:18.000
40% of the overall mass of the heat sink. Remember removing heat is

00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.520
basically surface area and yeah

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:24.079
basically surface area. So that's probably given the identical thickness

00:42:21.839 --> 00:42:29.280
of the material, more mass equals more surface area in this case.

00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:32.319
Um, interesting. And you've got a little pad here for keeping the mounting

00:42:31.040 --> 00:42:39.520
pressure even, I guess, because you got a lot of I don't know, weight here. Anyway, okay. So, that gives us a better

00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:42.240
look at the MXM module, which unfortunately is kind of hard for me to

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:46.079
lift right now because they're attached by the SLI bridge, but you can see

00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:50.720
there's your uh Oh, and I'm going to screw this up.

00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.480
GM204 if I recall correctly. I can never

00:42:50.720 --> 00:43:00.160
remember the code names. Whatever. It's a GTX 980 right there. And then around

00:42:55.200 --> 00:43:02.319
it is actually 8 gigs of GDDDR5 memory.

00:43:00.160 --> 00:43:06.319
So, I'm going to see if pulling off this heat spreader gives us a bit of a better

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.319
look at

00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:19.680
that. Oh, there's another warranty void to remove sticker. Ha. Eat it.

00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:24.920
Hey, Luke. You look stressed.

00:43:22.040 --> 00:43:30.200
Oh, I was hoping that he wasn't stressed and that he just looked

00:43:27.560 --> 00:43:35.599
stressed, but he was. H. So, that's not popping off very

00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:41.680
easily. I hope I'm not going to need like a heat gun or anything. Oh, no.

00:43:38.319 --> 00:43:44.160
There it goes. Boom. Okay. So, let's get

00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:48.560
you guys a good look at that. So, you go. There's all your There's all your

00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:51.119
thermal pads. Pretty much this entire

00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:54.760
aluminum heat spreader is covered in thermal pad

00:43:53.000 --> 00:44:01.119
material. Um, you can see what it's for. So, what

00:43:58.319 --> 00:44:06.640
would normally be a massive, you know, 10 and 1/2 in graphics card with a

00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:10.000
cooler this thick on it is now this tiny

00:44:06.640 --> 00:44:11.440
thing. So, I'm not sure if the memory

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:16.079
modules are double-sided. We're going to pull this off and we're going to find out later. But there's some of your

00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:22.280
DDDR5 memory. There's the GPU I showed you before. And this is the VRM. So

00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:24.839
that's the power delivery. Now,

00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:29.920
normally, huh, that's interesting. Yeah. Normally in a desktop computer, it looks

00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:38.040
like I'm going to need a special tool for this socket

00:44:33.160 --> 00:44:38.040
tool. No, I need a bigger one.

00:44:38.160 --> 00:44:45.560
Normally in a desktop computer, a GTX 980 class card would have um an external

00:44:43.839 --> 00:44:51.000
PCI Express power connector, but here everything seems to

00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:55.359
come from the MXM slot. I don't know much about MXM, like

00:44:53.839 --> 00:45:00.480
I don't know if it has additional power pins or anything like that. Um but here,

00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:08.200
so I'll try and give you guys as good a look at this as possible. There you

00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:12.720
go. There you go. The SLI connector is

00:45:08.200 --> 00:45:14.720
free, which gives us a great look at uh

00:45:12.720 --> 00:45:20.400
I'm going to bore you guys first. So, here here's the MXM

00:45:17.319 --> 00:45:24.000
slot. Here is what appears to be a PCI

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:26.319
Express 16X slot that is leading over to

00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:32.319
the uh the bottom PCB, which we'll get to later in the main uh in the main sort

00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:36.720
of well bottom of the chassis. Okay, so this is this is the daughterboard that

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:41.040
has one job and that is you can actually see there's no traces here really like

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:45.359
there's almost nothing going on here. Um, so it has pretty much one job to

00:45:43.040 --> 00:45:51.280
take PCI Express 16X and turn it into pretty much PCI Express 16X. So this

00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:55.680
card, uh, here I'm just going to spread these

00:45:53.359 --> 00:46:01.440
out. So this card has to be much more power efficient than a desktop GTX 980

00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:05.280
would be. All right, let's have a look at the

00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:09.040
back. Yes, this Wow, this is a really I mean I know some of the weight is this

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:16.599
heat spreader that's still on the back, but this is a very heavy

00:46:11.839 --> 00:46:20.359
um heavy PCB. There's a lot of lot of

00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:23.359
copper. You'll never catch me

00:46:20.359 --> 00:46:23.359
copper. All

00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:31.760
right, there is no way I'm going to be able to put this back together. I'm not

00:46:28.319 --> 00:46:31.760
paying close enough attention.

00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:40.640
Oh well, it is what it is. So, more thermal

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:44.760
pads. There we are. More heat spreader.

00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:48.359
And it turns out that yes, indeed you

00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:51.560
do. There is more memory on the

00:46:48.359 --> 00:46:53.440
back. Oh, more VRM junk, too.

00:46:51.560 --> 00:46:58.800
Interesting. Brandon, you ever seen a GTX 980 this big? Oh, that is really

00:46:56.240 --> 00:47:04.800
small. Yeah. That's what she said. Impressive. Small,

00:47:00.720 --> 00:47:06.400
but powerful and impressive.

00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:10.160
All right. So, let's put that baby over there. And do you guys really want to

00:47:08.319 --> 00:47:13.760
see me take apart the other one? I mean, do I really have to do two of the

00:47:11.839 --> 00:47:16.160
basically the same thing or can I just show you the differences on this one? I

00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:20.079
think I should just show you the differences and then we'll uh Oh, sorry. I'm talking to the wrong camera. I think

00:47:19.200 --> 00:47:27.440
I'm just going to show you the differences on this one and then move on because there's not a whole lot more a

00:47:25.520 --> 00:47:31.359
whole lot more to it as far as I can tell. I'm just going to kind of sneak a

00:47:29.839 --> 00:47:35.640
peek under there and see if maybe there's like some kind of a some kind of

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:41.040
a PCI Express hub or some kind of thing like

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:47.079
that that's going on, but it really doesn't look like it. Like what I do

00:47:42.680 --> 00:47:50.400
suspect is that since this is a

00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:55.119
Z170based system, each of these GPUs is

00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:56.880
only running at PCIe 8X speed anyway. So

00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.760
what I suspect has happened since you guys may or may not have noticed that

00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:06.160
this one actually has two M.2

00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:10.960
slots. There you go. So those are for PCI Express SSDs. What I suspect that

00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:15.200
MSI has done is they have played some clever games with this not being a real

00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:19.520
PCIe16x um electrically slot and they've just

00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:22.640
kind of gone, okay, well, we're going to reuse a slot that we have lots of in

00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:26.640
inventory anyway and we're going to completely rewire everything and um

00:48:25.359 --> 00:48:30.960
we're going to have our we're going to have our PCI Express hub or our PCI

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:36.079
Express switch or whatever else it is that we have over somewhere else. Um,

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:41.200
and that is how they're able to get the bandwidth that they need to run two of

00:48:38.319 --> 00:48:50.400
these PCI Express SSDs. Incidentally, these are what are they? Model MZ

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:53.760
VPV1280. Oh, S SM951. So, these are

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:55.559
Samsung's older NVMe drive, not the 950

00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:00.000
Pro, the new flagship. All right, so let's go ahead

00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:04.920
and put that aside for now. Oh, we are running out of

00:49:01.319 --> 00:49:08.400
space. And let's get back to the main

00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:10.960
kahuna. Let's get my fan over here. This

00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:16.559
heat sink over here, this one over here, and this one over here. All

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:18.079
right, so now this doesn't have a lot of

00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:23.440
This doesn't have a lot of structural rigidity to it, does it? I wonder if I

00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:27.520
can just like pull the whole thing right off.

00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:31.599
I mean, if I could, that would probably be a terrible idea, but um hey, hey, it

00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:38.319
wouldn't be the first time I did something that was a terrible idea. All right, so let's remove the CPU heat sink

00:49:35.839 --> 00:49:38.319
first, I

00:49:44.520 --> 00:49:50.040
guess. Oh, good. Captive thumb screws.

00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:55.280
Love it. Or not thumb screw, captive screws. Wow. Whoever put this thing

00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:58.559
together really uh gave it a beating around the screw holes

00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:04.400
here. Doesn't really seem necessary. There's a lot of There's a There's a big

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:09.880
opening there. Unless they had like a powered screwdriver or something that had a really short bit on it and they

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:14.280
were kind of trying to mash it in there. That's probably what happened

00:50:12.359 --> 00:50:19.200
actually. Okay, so there you

00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:22.720
go. We are There's not a whole lot of surface area to this. You can see

00:50:20.720 --> 00:50:28.480
actually, and this is true of the GPU heat sinks as well, you can see that MSI

00:50:25.680 --> 00:50:33.200
intends to keep the air flow going through the system quite uh quite low.

00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:38.160
So, they're counting on keeping the RPM of the fan low, but the overall air flow

00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:42.400
high enough to to cool these things very quietly. If you have a heat sink that's

00:50:40.240 --> 00:50:46.400
optimized for high RPM, high static pressure fans, it's going to have a much

00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:53.240
more dense fin arrangement than this one. So, um, yeah, MSI is just kind of

00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:59.920
going for gold here with what for a a 6700K is actually a very, um, small heat

00:50:58.640 --> 00:51:04.800
sink. So, they're they're really counting on that fan to be very, very

00:51:01.720 --> 00:51:06.880
efficient. Um, also here, so we've got

00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:09.520
the 6700 K that I just mentioned. I'm not going to take that out. You guys

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.720
have seen me take out a CPU a million times. I'm not going to not going to

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:17.040
bother risking damaging any of the pins or anything. Uh, but you can see here

00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:21.760
we've got the VRM for the motherboard. We've got, um, I'm going to have to

00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:27.040
figure out where power goes in at some point. Here we've got what looks like

00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:30.319
another physical PCI Express 16x slot

00:51:27.040 --> 00:51:32.319
right here. We've got Oh, cool. So,

00:51:30.319 --> 00:51:38.240
we've got the other end of that PCH ribbon cable right here. So, that's what

00:51:35.359 --> 00:51:44.559
is taking the Yep. So, you can actually see the traces here. It looks like Oh,

00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:44.559
hold on. Maybe not.

00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:51.599
Shoot. Sorry, I'm not sure. I thought this was the DMI interface coming off

00:51:49.200 --> 00:51:54.960
the CPU and coming down to here, but I could be wrong. Don't quote me on that.

00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:59.200
So, what's interesting here though is anything mounted on this board would

00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:04.480
have to be attached directly to the CPU. So, the CPU has the U memory controller.

00:52:02.319 --> 00:52:08.720
So that's why your four sodium memory modules, in this case they're each 8

00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:14.400
gigs, giving us a total of 32 gigs, are going to be uh connected directly to the

00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:21.440
CPU. And then the other thing is the PCI Express controller. So that's where that

00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:23.200
comes in down there. Then DMI. So yeah,

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:28.240
there's pretty much actually nothing nothing on there because the PCH is what

00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:34.800
has all your USB, your SATA, your Ethernet, and all that kind of nonsense.

00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:38.480
Cool. I hope this is as interesting for you guys as it is for me because I'm

00:52:36.319 --> 00:52:43.160
having a blast. Actually, this is what I wanted to do back at CES and they

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:45.559
wouldn't let me. The bastards. Um, oh

00:52:43.160 --> 00:52:49.839
crap. Oh, this was bound to happen eventually. Where are these screws from?

00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:57.839
Oh, they're from the GPU. So, let's label that

00:52:52.839 --> 00:52:59.119
MX M. Boom. All right. So top down view

00:52:57.839 --> 00:53:04.720
is actually probably good for you guys right now because it gives us some idea of what's going on with this. So this

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:10.720
looks like a support brace for the power supply and no it's it's no no that's the

00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:15.599
support brace for those other two. Ah I see uh for those other two daughter

00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:21.200
boards that have the GPUs on them. So I think we actually have to take it

00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:25.240
apart in order to pull them off and then they should slide out for us.

00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:29.119
Oh, two

00:53:38.680 --> 00:53:45.079
screws. Where's all the green stuff you promised? Hey, this computer has NVIDIA

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:49.480
graphics cards in it. I'm staying true to my

00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:55.200
word. All right, so there's those guys giving us a

00:53:53.359 --> 00:54:03.200
really good look at the power supply. So, chickeny power technology

00:53:58.160 --> 00:54:07.800
uh DC output 457 watt. Huh. Just like

00:54:03.200 --> 00:54:10.839
that. Eh, 37.5 amps on the 12vt

00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.640
rail. But how do you plug

00:54:10.839 --> 00:54:14.640
in? Well, let's find

00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:23.640
out. This explains why the power connector is on in the middle of the

00:54:19.680 --> 00:54:25.520
bottom like it is though, which is

00:54:23.640 --> 00:54:29.440
interesting because that's where the power supply is. It's right up the

00:54:27.040 --> 00:54:29.440
middle of the

00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:40.800
unit. Poor MSI. I am definitely not putting this

00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.800
back together. Far too many

00:54:42.040 --> 00:54:49.359
screws. Oh, okay. Okay, we just got to look at the uh there's the ground for

00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:49.359
the

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:58.160
chassis. So, that's going to be connected to the uh the ground prong of

00:54:54.319 --> 00:54:58.160
the power plug that we will eventually

00:55:02.520 --> 00:55:11.599
find. Someone in the chat just spelled a wrong. Can we ban that guy? Just like

00:55:07.200 --> 00:55:14.240
that. A like like capital A. It's

00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:19.000
spelled eh actually. All right. Sorry. I'll cut back to the angle that shows us

00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:23.920
anything cool here. Um,

00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.920
okay.

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.000
Interesting.

00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:38.240
So, yeah, I'm going to need uh I'm going

00:55:35.520 --> 00:55:42.800
to need some clever cleverness here, which is unfortunate because I don't

00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:44.400
have a lot of that. So, I gota I've got

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:51.440
to hit this clip. Hopefully, I can give you guys a better look at this. Let's have a Let's see if we can. Okay. So, in

00:55:49.040 --> 00:55:55.119
there, I've got kind of like a like a computer power supply type connector.

00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.319
Hopefully, you guys can see that. So, I've got to press this clip while pulling on it to get

00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:07.520
the Oh, well, that was easy. Okay. So,

00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:10.319
there. So, these are the There's the AC

00:56:07.520 --> 00:56:15.599
power in. So that's just wired up directly to that plug in the middle. And

00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:19.880
then there's the third prong. So that's uh that's the ground wire going to the

00:56:17.040 --> 00:56:23.400
chassis. Just like that. All

00:56:21.799 --> 00:56:31.040
right. Then this is interesting. the whole

00:56:27.040 --> 00:56:32.200
power supply. And this like I'm sure the

00:56:31.040 --> 00:56:37.480
electrical engineers watching this are going to be,

00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:42.559
you know, snickering at me or whatever, but this blows me

00:56:40.200 --> 00:56:45.040
away. Uh, hold on. You know, no, I'm going to I'm going to do one more thing

00:56:43.680 --> 00:56:50.440
before I talk about it, though, because it looks like it is actually finally

00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:52.720
time to take

00:56:50.440 --> 00:57:00.160
off the main board. So, I'm just going to pull out this PCH connector here.

00:56:56.160 --> 00:57:00.160
And oh no, I got to undo that

00:57:08.359 --> 00:57:14.520
ground. Oh, shoot. And I gota actually I should do a round of labeling, too. What

00:57:12.319 --> 00:57:20.839
the hell is all this stuff? Um, PSU PSU as far as I can

00:57:19.359 --> 00:57:24.839
remember. Uh, ground

00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.640
Okay. So, back to that angle. Oh. Oh,

00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:35.040
ball sack. Okay. Well, now there's another thing I have to undo. I got to

00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:37.799
do these two screws right here, I think. Although, I may only have to loosen

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:42.240
them. I might even have to take those out. It looks like they just prevent it

00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:44.640
from sliding forward. Nope. No. I'll just pull them

00:57:45.160 --> 00:57:54.839
out. Okay. Oh, no. Those weren't from the

00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:56.839
power supply. These were from the

00:57:54.839 --> 00:58:03.480
PSU. Whoops.

00:57:59.640 --> 00:58:05.480
Bracket. Boom. And then these are from

00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:08.480
the motherboard

00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:17.520
support base.

00:58:12.680 --> 00:58:17.520
Okay. Okay. For real this time. Here we

00:58:17.640 --> 00:58:24.559
go. So, there it is. That is the closest

00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:29.520
thing that this device has to a mainboard. So, it's got a skeleton

00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:35.760
uh back plate thing here that's actually attached to the main board with the uh

00:58:32.799 --> 00:58:40.319
the socket hold down screws. So, that's these screws right here that actually

00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:44.160
keep the the socket cover on. I have never seen that before. So, that's

00:58:42.720 --> 00:58:50.079
different. A lot of stuff about this thing that's different. Um, these are

00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:51.599
the hinges that those two uh they make a

00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:56.280
triangle here. So, they they come out like this that the two support braces

00:58:53.359 --> 00:59:00.240
for the GPUs attach to. And then uh there's that PCH connector that I was

00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:07.920
trying to show you guys before, but it's kind of hard with it attached to the base. And uh yeah, very cool. And

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:12.960
there's that. See, it looks just like a standard graphics card connector PCI

00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:16.000
Express 16x. But of course, you know, a connector is just a physical connector.

00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:18.960
A wire is just a wire. So, they can rewire it for whatever they want if

00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:25.040
they're going to if they're going to go full custom on something like this.

00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:29.760
Okay, which leads us to the thing that blew my mind a second ago when I was

00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:34.799
talking about the power supply. And this this runs sort of, you know, everyone's

00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:37.520
trying to sell us on, you know, um like

00:59:34.799 --> 00:59:40.720
PCI Express 8pin connectors have always been something that have kind of baffled

00:59:39.040 --> 00:59:45.559
me because I'm looking at it going, "Okay, so it's rated for I forget what

00:59:43.040 --> 00:59:50.799
the numbers are, but it's like 275 watts now versus 150 watts TDP or

00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:55.200
whatever the numbers are. It's like significantly more. Like a PCIe 8 pin is

00:59:53.680 --> 01:00:02.319
rated to deliver significantly more power than a six pin." I'm looking at it going, all you've done is add two

00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:05.400
grounds. You didn't actually add another

01:00:02.319 --> 01:00:08.960
12vt wire. And I mean, my understanding

01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:11.680
of the capacity of a connection to carry

01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:15.280
DC current is that it pretty much comes down to the gauge of the wire and how

01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:18.640
many of them there are. Um, and so in the desktop, we're trying to be

01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:22.319
convinced all over the place that we need these like massive power supplies

01:00:20.720 --> 01:00:28.280
and like the all these like massive wires and all these connections. And then I'm sitting here looking at this

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:34.760
going like, are you kidding me? This is the only connection between

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:39.960
the 457 watt power

01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:45.079
supply. That's it. This is the only connection and the entire rest of the

01:00:42.319 --> 01:00:50.720
system. this connector. This I'm going to zoom in so

01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:56.400
you guys can grasp the full the full amaze ballsness of what I'm showing you

01:00:52.799 --> 01:00:56.400
right now.

01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:03.359
This if I could focus on it that would be great. Thanks camera. I hate

01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:12.880
you. Um well maybe if I zoom out a little bit

01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:15.280
more. Sometimes it has trouble focusing.

01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:22.599
Can you focus? I'm trying to make a point here. There we go. This powers the

01:01:20.319 --> 01:01:27.920
entire system. Everything. 12volt rail, 5vt rail, 3.3

01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:33.839
volt rail, all the grounds, all the GPUs, the CPU,

01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:36.960
everything. Does the whole thing. How is that? How is that even

01:01:37.720 --> 01:01:46.280
possible? So, there you go.

01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:49.200
which leaves us finally with the base.

01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:55.400
Um, and this pretty much just acts as like a as like a traffic traffic control

01:01:52.359 --> 01:01:58.480
station. Uh, so you can see we've got

01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.960
the the power just comes through there.

01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:06.799
Okay. Power goes in here. So this is what routes power to this PCIe 16x

01:02:04.319 --> 01:02:11.920
physical interface, this 16x physical interface, and this 16x physical

01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:16.640
interface. This goes off to the CPU and then this goes off to the two GPUs. One

01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:19.680
of them goes to that M.2 slot. Um, and then you've got all these little ribbon

01:02:18.160 --> 01:02:24.000
connectors that go to a bunch of places that I forget now because it's been a

01:02:21.520 --> 01:02:29.000
long time since I started doing this. Uh, which I guess kind of concludes our

01:02:25.839 --> 01:02:33.359
stream. So, thank you for tuning in to

01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:35.839
this complete tearown of the MSI Vortex

01:02:33.359 --> 01:02:38.079
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you again next time. See if this hotkey

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