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wait that's my

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carit whether it's calling my order number my court reservation or my

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license plate number I can never

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understand what they're saying over the PA system surely in a world where

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headphones can be Wireless and we can cancel out background noise on a zoom

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call like magic it can't be that hard to

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build a building speaker setup that's actually clear oh yes

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can but we can do it right I mean of

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when we first checked out this space the echo in here was absolutely

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mindblowing but as you can hear it's quite a lot better now we've talked

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before about how we've sound treated our studio our lab and even our Workshop to

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keep Reverb and other unpleasantness out of our recordings and we started with a

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pretty similar approach here at our badminton gymland gaming center which by

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the way huge update we heard back from the city we're actually going to be able

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to do wh land let's go starting with the ceilings we switched away from our usual

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cellulose-based sprayon foam and went with a fiberglass sprayon acoustic

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treatment it does still add a little bit of insulation which is always a good

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thing but the most important fact factors were the fact that it goes on a

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little thinner it's a little easier to paint so we didn't end up with that ugly

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color from the lab again and maybe most importantly it is less susceptible to

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damage and mold in the event that moisture seeps into it this stuff is

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great because its paracity and uneven surface act to absorb and Scatter any

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incoming sound waves significantly reducing Reflections between the floor

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and the ceiling but unfortunately we couldn't

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spray that material all the Way Down the Walls and expect it to hold up to flying

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birdies bags and bodies or even just

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people getting bored and picking the foam off the walls while they wait for their next match fortunately the

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solution was right under our noses or rather our backs we already had our eye

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on these gym mats to provide a sturdy but comfortable back rest for folks who

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are sitting on our customized storage friendly benches and as it turns out

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they do a pretty solid job of attenuating many of the problem

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frequencies that like to Bounce Around forever in a space like this so two

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birdies one stone and all of that the multi-layer sprung floor and foam and

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vinyl topper that we installed also contribute to Echo reduction but not as

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much as the other factors to demonstrate how effective this ended up being

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instead of using my lab microphone we're going to switch over to the iPhone 16

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plus that Jordan's holding over there back when we started you wouldn't have

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been able to make out a bloody word that I was saying from back here but now it's

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downright usable not great

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but useable we're starting off in a much better place but before we can start

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blasting Amplified sound into our big concrete Cavern we need to make some

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careful considerations to make sure that every visitor can hear about the limited

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time offer on left-handed badminton rackets oo while also keeping the system

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intuitive and customizable for staff now there's a lot of options out there but

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for a variety of reasons a lot of them

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won't work for us for starters there's the traditional PA these are affordable

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super easy to set up I mean all you need is a hammer microphone a cable a mixer

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and it doesn't need to be a fancy one like this and a powered speaker and boom

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you're off to the races in fact it's pretty intelligible all the way from

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this end of the facility to the other the only problem is in order to make it

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so that Jordan can hear what Dan's saying go ahead Dan hey Jordan how you

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doing you're basically blasting my ears off it's not balanced can you hear this

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okay Jordan yes yes we can hear you I mean I think Jordan can barely hear this

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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah thank you Dan obviously we could relocate this entire

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setup pretty easily for better balance or we could wire up the entire facility

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with audio cable and have it all come back to a central location but that's

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going to cost us inflexibility because the best place for let's say a

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tournament draw desk or for a land knock

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are not necessarily going to be the same places we needed more flexibility

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another option was a constant voltage system they're commonly 70 volts in

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North America and 100 volts in Europe but the voltage isn't important what's

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important is you have a bunch of in seiling speakers that'll look kind of

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like this and they'll run background music the occasional announcement that

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sort of thing this is typically what you'll find in doctor's offices

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classrooms restaurants and the like these systems can cover long distances

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with very thin inexpensive wire thanks to their high voltage but are not known

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to have great sound quality certainly not worthy of crab Rave and besides what

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is this the Stone Age why wouldn't we use Ethernet with Ethernet we can have

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high fidelity audio we don't have to run snakes and low voltage audio cables we

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can just use standard network cabling and that means we can put speakers all

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over the place keeping each individual speaker relatively quiet improving

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Clarity also theoretically because it's Ethernet we can use switching to kind of

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tap into it from anywhere and have modul CL ity and configurability so you can

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address one side of the building the other side of the building or the whole

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freaking building there's only one small problem everyone and their dog has their

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own platform and protocols that are various degrees of proprietary that is

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what we thought until Dan found Dante

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which is built on previous AOE and aoip

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Tech some of the key benefits of Dante are it's a uncompressed high quality

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audio it's easy to install and expand it scales really well it's got wide

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manufacturer support there's about 350 companies that are licensed right now

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and typically it's only supported by higher end audio gear oh I knew there

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was going to be a catch yeah you pay the Dante tax um but Dante controller lets

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you configure the routing and you wanted modularity and ease of use yeah ease of

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use was pretty big uh we want it to be something that any random staffer can

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use or that something I don't want to be here when there's a little problem or to

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change the levels or anything like that especially because it could be at a land at 3 in the morning exactly can we

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configure it for like one button presets I'll show you what I've done good Lord I

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thought you said this was simple we ended up going with CIS mostly because

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of the end of it is simple but setting

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it up in the configuration is what makes it complicated I've always said you need

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complexity to make things simple to get the one button and to get it easy for

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staff and to get it configurable we have to have this mess of nodes and uh flows

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and things like that especially as we've got loads of end points we have about 30

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speakers we have wireless microphones and maybe we do want to do a traditional

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PA when we do Lands cool but theoretically it works it does it's in

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production right now uh they've been using it for the afternoon badminton uh

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sessions okay oh wow so it's working

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then yes both mics work at the same time maybe a little loud here wow that's cool

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and I've made it so that the volume of the mics is adjustable so it balances

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the level so it keeps everything consistent so Linus can scream and

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nervous land participants who have just won something and get to talk to their

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Idol um it's all a very consistent level

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show me how we can cordin off a section and turn it off right here I've got

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these volume ramps and so by toggling off you know the courts or the bathrooms

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or something like that it'll take a section of speakers and dim them down to

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nothing or bring them back up the other thing is I didn't want a traditional

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mute button because say you're playing music in the background you unmute it

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the whole courts get blasted so it's even got a ramp up time as well so when

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you unmute it it comes up nice and softly and slowly and then ramps up to

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where it needs to be it's great okay in the long term could we have like a

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little I don't know a stream deck or something where you could like toggle on

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different sections of the building exactly right now I have it set for the

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courts to be toggleable and we could eventually do that for any Zone that we

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want gym the lounge upstairs everything like that eventually what we'll have is

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a little iPad that they can carry around and pick what zones they want or if they

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want to switch over to land mode that'll kind of be a button and that'll adjust a

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whole bunch of things but as it stands right now I just have a very basic

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interface um oh yeah basic yeah no this is not like the user interface this is

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the user interface that I've made right now I didn't spend a lot of time on it

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and as you can see it's only like three buttons so we can toggle if the court is

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enabled and then we can also limit the volume of the background music when

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you're playing badminton and things like that it can be a nice background level

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and then we have uh background music death which basically takes the entire

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courts up to their maximum volume that I think is a uh pretty damn loud can we

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hear it sure let's do it you want some crab Rave yeah let's do it while Dan's

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getting them going now is as good a time as any to show you the speakers that we ended up using they're from sound tube

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and they are power over Ethernet meaning that all we need to have is a PoE switch

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and boom you can have an amplified speaker anywhere you can run an Ethernet

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cable so on this side of the Court we've actually got I think it's nine of them

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go ahead Dan realistically we'd love to add a little bit more acoustic dampening

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to the ends of the building and there are still some things that Dan can tune

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within the software to help compensate for the echoin of the

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space but you can see as I move around this actually pretty

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usable Crank It Up Dan let's

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go you can definitely tell when you're closer to one of the

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speakers but there's so many that you're

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pretty much always close to one another thing that I've implemented

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as well is automatic ducking so I can

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talk into the microphone and do my announcements and then when I

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stop hey now that's pretty cool it's also

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time bound as well so it's not down and up and down and up

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freaking loud like what the heck to kind of

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prevent it from getting super loud yeah uh you know I hook up my phone I set it

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to 100% volume it doesn't destroy the whole speakers and everything like that

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I've got a leveling system for the phone input as well so if you're playing it

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super quiet out in the lobby it's all going to be a consistent volume oh wait

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we could just like connect our phone to it I have it Bluetooth to my laptop

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right now the adapter I have is Bluetooth these are sure bet 58 wireless

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mics and the thing is that they're the receiver is stuffed under a door in the

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kind of Court area right at the front they reach all the way to the back on

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both courts and you don't have to think about it then when we come in to do

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Lands we can be on site we can do more weird things this is just the most basic

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setup super easy to do thanks Q sis I

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guess oh did did they hook us up with software is subcription no it's a

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Perpetual licenses we did have to pay for a whole bun of licenses um like a

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Dante Channel upgrade right now I think we have 16 transmit flows so I have 16

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zones including both bathrooms and each

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side of the speakers are on different zones we got four along the left four

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along the right four for the hanging speakers and then Court concession in

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both bathrooms so is this the kind of installation that Dante is for well

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typically you use Dante to bring audio back and forth between the stage the

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mixer position and speakers but in this setup we're doing things a little bit

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different uh there's no mixer at all right cuz we're using CIS exactly so CIS

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is a network manageable audio video and control program right so we just don't

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need a mix it exactly it does it all in the Box tell me this though does Dante

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have any special requirements from your network equipment like can I just plug

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it into anything yeah not from the switching side it does have extremely

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specific like transmit protocols that

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need to be followed often requiring an entire separate Network to be run so

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that it doesn't go over your normal local traffic is a latency issue or

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latency issue and a traffic issue as well you need very specific packet

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switching okay but our UniFi stuff does it it does now oh up until extremely

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recently UniFi was one of the only companies that you could not use Dante

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with oh um and yet and yet they have released some Alpha version right now

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which supports CYS Dante Crestron all of

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those sort of switching protocols and you can actually see on our RGB switches

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here the ones in this greeny yellow are specific Dante vline that we have set up

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RGB Network switches who knew it would actually be very practical it's actually

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quite useful so this is a completely separate VLAN which basically carries

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all of our audio traffic theoretically all we would need to do to plug one of

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these guys in oh yeah okay is just slap it in here to any PoE port and then

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it'll activate and if it's on the right VLAN then now you've got AIO two analog

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inputs yep there you go wow so that's

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actually a camera no well so it's not going to

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work I am watching you stop it on the subject of these dongles I couldn't help

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noticing we have a lot of them we're not using right now what is the plan for these these are all for the Lan

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eventually for example this is one that we're using downstairs for the

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microphone so this is a stereo XLR in this one here is a stereo XLR out so we

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could have a traditional backline on a stage or something like that and then feed the entire system directly into

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some big speakers the nice thing about Dante in particular in these is I can

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preon figure them in whatever Port I want and then all I do is I plug them

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into the network and they self assemble that is so cool they're all addressed

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and they have controls on them too so so when Chase is just rolling out land

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equipment he all he needs to know is this goes there and boom it's ready to

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go exactly super sick this one here is USBC

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oh so it's blue it goes it's two-way communication so this is a I believe a

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dual stereo pair the one that we have downstairs is Bluetooth and there's a

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whole bunch of different ins and outs because Dante is kind of just a standard

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and then companies can put it in whatever they want it's pretty neat how

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much did it cost so this entire setup

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with all of these adapters and about 30 speakers was about 20 grand I believe

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that is great guys you have no idea the

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kinds of quotes that I got from like audio contractors and obviously we spent

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more than $20,000 total when we consider the time that our

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infrastructure team and Dan spent you know implementing this I think we're

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still out ahead though absolutely and all we had to do is run Ethernet cable

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and the adaptability pays for itself

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yeah can be changed anytime we want it can be in any port in this building that

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is so cool you just need PoE like we could add a PA to the office up here all

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we'd have to do is make sure that that Port is running to a PoE switch and then

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boom and this one is so now we have a microphone in Jim's office it's as easy

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as that that that's so cool I know I mean we may have to switch a VLAN around

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the team and I were frantically working on this place but hey it's it's almost

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done right it feels so together right

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like look at this we got like access control on all the doors and everything

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does that work yet yep yes everything's in
