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i like to think we take a very professional approach to our network

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infrastructure around here are you joking which is to say that i

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really hope that nobody in there or up there or around there really really

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needs internet because Jake and i are about to yolo zero preparation make and

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install a brand new router that should be able to help us take full advantage

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of a greater than 10 gigabit internet connection that we're going to be

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upgrading to down the road what are we i thought we were no oh

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we didn't have 10 gig before you lied to everyone did i yeah well we had 10 gig

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well now we have 10 gig everywhere neat and we also have this sponsor

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offer way more security and control than convention ones click the link in the

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description and get five dollars to spend on your first purchase when you

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sign up

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are we just getting right into this i think so because i don't know anything

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about it i didn't even know that we were getting a new router until i walked down

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to logistics and i was like oh what's this box from supermicro and they were

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like oh that's the new router and i'm sitting here going well hold on a second

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since when does super micro make routers and then you were like since like a long

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time ago our existing router is a super micro box actually i didn't know that

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yeah this is basically the same box just

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the more strong

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okay but do we even need a faster more strong router

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um questionable but ours is like sky lake

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it's like kind of old now holy crap is

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it mine i know it's old man man how much power does that thing draw probably a

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good amount i mean this one i don't think is going to draw nothing that's

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your benchmark what the hell this thing has how many power supplies in it um i'm

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pretty sure these are 800 watt power supply shut up

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yes 800 watt max 800 watt power supplies

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what the hell are you planning to do with this thing

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go go fast ah man i'm so excited to kill everyone's

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internet shortly hey we're not going to kill their internet are we going to kill everyone

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no their internet oh to kill their internet no no no no we got this oh our

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current router okay which is

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oh where the hell is it yeah that's right it's mounted at the back oh god

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good luck i might end up just selfie filming this on my phone brandon

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not gonna lie i don't think you're gonna use why is there a CPU pillow in there i

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was sitting there from lttstore.com i was it was not planted i was actually

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sitting back there you gonna selfie cam it yeah i'm gonna selfie canvas all

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right okay yo what's up all right we're going back into the depths of the server

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room ah the cable management back here used

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to be better back when i did it what do you think and then a lot worse when i

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did it we actually used both sides of our rack and the reason for that is that

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we used to have so much storage in the front just so many storage servers that

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there wasn't enough room to have all of our switching in the front so we moved

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all of it to the back it's only patch panels in the front

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so here's all of our switches both PoE and otherwise for our fiber stations as

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well yeah there we go as well as our rj45 stations and then if we go a little

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bit uh yes right in the middle of all of it hiding in there we've got our super

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micro pf sense box the power for this thing i think

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actually comes out the front oh no it

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doesn't oh crap i gotta take the side off the cabinet

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bloody hell nothing is ever easy ah yes there it is you can see it's

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really shallow compared to even to our network switches and that was by design

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because we knew we were gonna have other things in the front of the rack and they

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could interfere with it if it was really long i just need to oh my god

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seriously we should move it hey it is way

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at the back we're even

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would it be easier to go power cable is at the very other end i can't even point

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at it let alone get my ARM in there i have an idea

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you have an idea you say we could

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we could climb the server rack

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yes i like it good idea Jake okay well

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he's doing it i was gonna say we could move one of the patch panels in the

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front and then just get at it from the front

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no i got this he's got it oh that's a pro oh my god

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it's so hot in here uh no it does not have a redundant power

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supply that one doesn't it does not so i will be cutting out internet do you

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think it'll be like a while internet for a while it'll take a couple minutes a

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couple minutes do you think they need internet though i think it's this one so

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we're gonna find out real quick styles here

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i have no idea what i just unplugged

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everything here is still powered that's not it dude

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what is going on here what the heck what just happened what did you just unplug

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lights are out it's this one whatever this one is oh wait what what are you

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pulling on oh i see it i see it okay it's out okay where's my thing real

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quick oh my god where's the where's the thing

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i don't tell her holy sh well i'm so sorry entire company

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of people that are trying to work this is the most expensive

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power test we've ever done so we got our little power meter thing

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we want to know how much more efficient the new one is so we got to test the old one it might not be more efficient what

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what do you mean it might not be more efficient i thought that's the whole it's technically a higher TDP CPU what

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are you talking well why do we even need it then well because why not

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it's got 25 gigs so if we did upgrade down the road ah

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and our old one is so old it's like five years old now okay how do we turn it on

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now did you actually break it i don't know it's not turning on here

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plug it back into normal power for a second let's just take a gander okay

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hold on here this is so not why are we even doing this right now because i want to know the power consumption savings

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okay yeah that works so what's is this thing not working it

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doesn't have a screen light up okay go get the basic one oh my god get the

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basic one boop i'm not so sorry entire

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time here catch

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catch oh gosh all right let's go back and start working on the new server for

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the time being then we can come back and check the power consumption after this was supposed to be a very short side

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quest okay i got the old server pulled up here i think it's this one right here nice it

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might not be the exact one because this is silver but it's the same spec zeon d

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21 46 here look this up on arc one of the cool things about the xeon d-class

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processors that was one of the reasons that we ultimately went with a pf sense

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box rather than a purpose-built router was that these zeon d chips had this

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like encryption all right i can't look it up oh my god this is

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why can't you look it up Linus well the site can't be reached so it could be

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that Intel arc is down yeah that's the problem what's the other

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options uh well it could be that your wi-fi install is not working correctly

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anything else really bad luck yeah anyway they have hardware

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accelerated encryption and what i had thought at the time was that this would

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allow for a very fast remote access when

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i'm off site to dump footage or do whatever else but unfortunately whether

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it's an open vpn software limitation it's probably an open vpn thing probably

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an openvpn thing we were never really able to take advantage of that but we do

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have a new solution to that which doesn't require this which raises the

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question zero tier why exactly are we using a pf sense box

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anymore anyway rather than a purpose-built router um

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because pss is great actually what we should use if we were

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going like crazy high speed say we had 100 gigabit internet we might actually

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have to use a switch that has routing capabilities built in because when you

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get to that level of performance like pf sense you can't even think about doing

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that speed right and the reason for that is that pfsense uses a general purpose

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x86 CPU just like any other server from

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super micro would in fact there's no reason that we couldn't use this particular

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server as a virtualization server or as a storage

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server it would just kind of suck in those roles it's not really designed for

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it whereas a high-end router from the likes of someone like a cisco is

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actually using an asic that is specifically designed for network

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switching yeah the other thing is you can use a server that has no business

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being a router or computer that has no business being a router with pf pfcents

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in fact for our lan party we used a dual 32 core AMD epic box to run pfsense

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because that's what i had lying around pfsense is based on freebsd which means

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that the hardware compatibility is actually excellent both with modern

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components and even very old components so turning your old computer into a file

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server and then your old old ancient computer into a pfsense router is

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totally viable as long as power isn't super expensive where you're from

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did they completely pre-build this forest do you even have any work to do

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well what is this RAM here i feel like we should upgrade the RAM i mean we

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don't what is this RAM here those are like some ddr one apps looking like this

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no it's a 64 gig 3200 that's a nice

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stick of RAM right there oh oh i thought these were individual long RAM packages

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no so i just didn't even recognize it at all that's a 64 gig dim right there

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brother we're working on it Dan well Jake unplugged the thing

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oh i'm sorry thank you you should have i didn't unplug anything

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what are we gonna call this thing new pf sense sure yeah

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new pf sense i'm gonna call it pf sets two we do have a small problem though

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before we can build it i have to sign out this memory and they need internet

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is it is it working send them a photo backup nice eight gigs 3200 i checked

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our current router presently has 32 gigs only

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d2796nt it's 121 TDP

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let's see did we get a lot more course for that yeah i think so i think it's a

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12 core it's a 20 core oh

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is this right now we're going from eight to 20 cores i

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also want to put an optane SSD in here what do you mean there are there's a 660p in there already yeah i want to go

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up five 12 gigs 660p i want octane

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i would actually like to put two drives now this is interesting if you take off

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the cooler you can see this is one of Intel's bga style xeon cpus so these are

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not intended to be inserted into a socket they're intended to be soldered

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directly to the motherboard for use in appliances that are not really intended

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to be upgraded like say for example routers like this one okay to be clear

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pitch me the reason i asked for this yeah because i still can't understand

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that we were gonna go maybe 20 gig and i

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was like yo we're gonna need a bigger router because

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the other one's only 10 gig this guy has dual 25 gig on it which is pretty cool

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obviously that's not the case anymore yeah it was really expensive so i i ki

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washed it so we did upgrade we went from 5.5 gig wan to 10 gig full so we

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actually get proper 10 gig now which is nice too everything i should explain i

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wasn't lying okay we had 5.5 gig to the

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internet in general and then the additional four and a half gig we did

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have a 10 gig link was to vanix the vancouver internet exchange which

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probably is where the bulk of our traffic is coming through anyway you

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download anything on steam you download a Windows update

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oh i'm pretty damn sure there's not that many things connected to it like if you

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look at the vancouver internet exchange like total traffic

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they're total traffic peaks at like 80 gigabytes connected through vanex it's

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small amazon okay i know google's through

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there participate doesn't necessarily mean that all the traffic is going through cloud fires there i don't think

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it was actually that misleading to say that we had a 10 gig internet connection

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wow that's a big chip that's like lga 1700 well dga 1700 yeah i know it's wild

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to me that it's just soldered directly to the board it is

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fcbga2579 but the thing is i'm not even mad about it because this is not the

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kind of device that would ever get a CPU upgrade within the reasonable service

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life of it you deploy this you freaking forget about it it fails you rip it out

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you put in another one that's just how these customers work yeah are you sure

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you don't want to put another drive in here i would kind of like to do

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redundant drives i'm kind of surprised there isn't two m.2s in here i want to

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put optane in it i think there's a 119 right there no i don't want to use the

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118. 64. what do you need storage for in a router well if we do like statistics

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or something how much you're going to need look brother 64 games have been sitting here

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for four sticks

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let's go look at what our current box is using if it's like less than 30 gigs we

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can use those the okay the drive on there right now is 26 gigs formatted so

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a 64 is he's double it's double he wins

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all right shout out silverstone by the way if there's some random and

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you need it silverstone probably makes it

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so we got redundant discs we got redundant power supplies now that's a

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big upgrade and we saw why that's so important you never know when some rogue

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is gonna sneak into your server room and unplug your shiz

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i have no idea what i just unplugged

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yeah you never know you never know the reason that i wanted to use these is

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actually because they're very very unlikely to fail in this application

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compared to nand flash which wears out quickly as you write to it and erase it

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and then rewrite to it optane is more dram like in that you can write to it

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many many more times before you are likely to experience a failure

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so yes they're super low capacity they're not great performance these

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particular drives i think only link at PCIe gen 3x2 but we don't need the

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performance i just want the resiliency to know that if we never upgrade this

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thing again which we probably wouldn't need to 20 cores and a router

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this will still be running 10 years 15 years from now we've upgraded to quad

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channel memory we've upgraded to dual drives dual redundant drives we have put

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on thermal grizzly thermal compound and we are ready to close it up

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now this is not a 25 gig fiber module oh

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it should negotiate no problem this takes these 25 gig capable sfp plus

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ports and plug that in there and it converts them to whatever we want so in

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our case it's 10 gig rj45 but we could

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also go to fiber add up to 25 gig if we wanted to run to well somewhere

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fiber 250 oh and just trunk them yeah yeah but how

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would you get it out of there yeah well you could remove one of our redundant

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drives and then put a really fast network card in there i set zfs to a mirror and

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selected both of the disks and it's installing now one of these needed large i bet there's

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something new uh well that's for later Jake to figure out

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yeah screw that guy i'm gonna go check the power consumption

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of our current box oh man we're so close

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so close to nice power consumption man

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we're gonna save like nothing it's only 68 watts

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two 10 gig 225 gig wow that's awesome

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yeah i think our current one is 210 sfps and then

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ten rj45s truthfully there's not really much

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of a benefit to that unless we had multiple

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wan connections um because realistically you would just set up your switch with

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vlans if you wanted to have separate

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you know isolated networks behind your router which we do

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but hey it's there yeah you know yeah hey

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right the default is going to be a weird ip do you have a

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well look we're in the right spot right now um

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this thing it's kids today right they don't finish sentences

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correct oh my god it's micro usb jesus christ

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well you have a two and a half gig one yeah isn't that cool oh whoa it's just a

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module yeah oh but it's thick well yeah

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wow that is cute oh what took you so

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long Jake geez some of us just find patch cables so

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much faster than other people

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it's in very nice now we could configure

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all of this from scratch but that would be

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really stupid because a it would take a long time and b the odds of making a

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mistake when you're configuring your router especially when you have a setup

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that's as complex as ours is very high and i'm not saying that our

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setup is like exterior complex but it's complex enough

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that you can make a mistake there are a few things that we're going to have to

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change even once we restore from our old configuration and that's the identity of

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our network interfaces because they're going to have names like

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i x no zero yeah they'll be like ixl one

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they might even line up honestly the only thing that won't line up is

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probably the 25 gig but i'm just gonna

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they'll line up look enough it's fine interface mismatch detected please

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resolve the mismatch oh that's so cool wow just as part of the import process

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yeah wow is there a 25 gig one not showing i mean

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we could just use 10 gig for now what do we care let's just use the 10 gig ports

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they're fiber we need to media convert i do have a way we could do this though

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um what we can do very smart hack is we can

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take our sfp module put it in one of the switches that has

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an sfp port in its own vlan like an untagged vlan

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and then you just put it back into here rj45 and it just passes the traffic over

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it it's not stupid they do it actually all the time

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okay something we didn't quite explain properly before the reason this matters

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is that our incoming internet connection is fiber so we wouldn't even be using an

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rg45 converter we would going to be going straight into these ports and

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pfsense at least in its current iteration doesn't appear to have drivers

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for it so this is our wind this is our lan uh we'll have to like patch the sfp

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through the switch like i said before but i already set up the vlan so we're like theoretically we just plop this in

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and we're good to go i mean all the vlans are broken but those are for non-essential stuff i can fix that later

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yeah i couldn't help noticing that it's not super accessible yeah some idiot put

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it not at the top i didn't have a choice

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okay but to be fair this one's not on rail so

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it's not no we could pull it out

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move these two down put it at the top there it goes oh you

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did it i pressed the power button okay well here so let's

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we have to be very oh god damn it and

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now it's unplugged well good um cool sorry everyone hope you didn't need

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internet i'm gonna do this very carefully as if this gets damaged then we're

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so the vlan is set in that port cool it lit up it's compatible that's

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very good sign all right i moved our fiber which was

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plugged in here on our old router over to this switch

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and these two ports are configured as an untagged vlan so it's just going to act

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as basically a media converter to convert this fiber into an rj45 that we

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can plug into the new router okay so this boy needs to come out now just

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comes out and then i'm thinking we move these down and put it at the top no i don't know we

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should because this is just loose and then this one just needs to be

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unbolted and it'll just fall oh my god it's worth it it's worth it oh god be

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careful with the fiber eh yeah yeah that's actually just uh it's

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fine just

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we break that we have no internet uh actually i can totally just patch it

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it's fine okay holy that's been in that spot for

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like five years cool four years the warm boy okay really yes yes yes yes yes oh

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my god i'm never gonna no they're not they don't have

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internet well yeah but i mean they're like on yeah but that's just the Wi-Fi

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one oh boy there's two sitting on top of this well yeah it's pretty saggy i got

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my hand in there now okay sorry brandon yeah

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hope you weren't trying to film or anything ow

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okay just go just go just keep going i'm going i'm going i'm going it only kind

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of hurts ah that was actually not that bad oh thank god

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now the pf sense can just go on top oh i'm so happy

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so much better i've been wanting to do this for like

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literally six years you're doing great brandon thanks oh we got to do the

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redundant power ah problem for later just a second yeah

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later Jake can deal with that okay screw that

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okay wow this one's quite a lot deeper than the old one yeah it's sick oh god

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oh my god be careful don't hit the sprinkler well i don't want to yeah what

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am i guiding again absolute cast from the back you got to make sure it doesn't

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run over any cables like the fiber yeah i see the fiber the fiber is good it's

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sticking in the hole yeah i'm working hard and fast it's stuck uh keep going

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you're fine it's stuck oh you're good keep going i'm pushing on it and it's

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not ah what was that ah it's just the fans

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there we go

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okay we need a patch cable okay let's go see if it's working

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what are the odds wait we haven't plugged in the management port yet well

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that is providing our dhcp so the management doesn't exactly work when the

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dhcp is off i got it i just have to reboot that

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ubiquity switch again for wi-fi yeah

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oh i'm up holy crap gotta love pf sounds am i

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right just like that wikipedia black death flag

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right there lttstore.com early reviews of the

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backpack are in and it's flipping awesome good quality bag it finally

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happened what happened we did a network infrastructure thing

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that actually only had the scheduled amount of downtime well except when you

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unplugged it just check the plan yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah minor details Jake

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minor details we took a config imported

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it and it just worked we're just ignoring all those you're not

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going to do a victory lab we're ignoring all the vlans that aren't on right now

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that's later Jake's problem yeah screw that guy

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oh okay so you're gonna run fast.com and i'm going to run this one honestly it's

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you can't take this stuff seriously because basically we're going to be limited by

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the speed of the host of the speed test well they used to be they use multiple

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servers now it's pretty fast actually yeah

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okay i'm running okay i'm now running too

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yeah it said we got to 5.6

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Gigabyte okay and that's exactly what we're rated for to the internet at large

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then isn't it yeah well theoretically they told me it has been upgraded now but i can't seem

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to get anything faster than 5.5 gig i think there's a little tweaking that

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needs to be done well so we got up to 5.6 gigabit yep how's our CPU usage RAM

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usage zero percent CPU four percent RAM we're we're using 700

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megs of storage did we just build the most overkill router

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well they're kind of hot actually 56 degrees it's been a few days and we've

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had the opportunity to do a bit more research into the issues we were having

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with our Intel 25 gigabit nick in pfsense it turns out that while the nick

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in question and Intel e823c wasn't released yesterday driver's fur

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were only added to freebsd the operating system that pfsense is based on back in

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march of this year Linux has had support since early 2020.

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unfortunately the current release of pfsense that's version 2.6 and the

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upcoming 2.7 are still running freebsd 12.3 which does not include the new

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drivers that left us with a couple of options either we continue using a

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network switch to convert the incoming sfp fiber signal into an rj45 Ethernet

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connection that pfsensk actually has drivers for we install a compatible nic

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like a melanox connectx series or we find a different operating system this

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is where opensense came into play it's a fork of pfsense that's also based on

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freebsd but the open source team at open sense is typically a lot faster when it

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comes to updates meaning the latest version of it does include drivers for

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our 25 gig nick now the process of converting over was

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fairly easy since many of the configuration options and a lot of the

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user interface is very familiar i mean it is a fork after all we went ahead and

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reinstalled the old router running pfsense in the meantime and then

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manually copied over the configuration now the hardest part would have been

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manually copying our 100 plus static dhcp reservations but i found a cool

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script on github that can automatically convert from pfsense to opensense or

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even the other way around performance was as you'd expect

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basically the same but it does have a few aces up its sleeve compared to

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psense including faster updates like i mentioned before an arguably more

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user-friendly interface and there's a lot more available plug-ins for adding

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in additional functionality now it's not to say that psense is bad we've been

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using it for years with pretty much no issues and there's still a larger

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community behind it so if you need support or tutorials you may be better

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off sticking with pfsense but in the last few weeks since we've switched to

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opensense it's been nothing but great so i wouldn't hesitate to check it out if

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yes oh my god that's so flat

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okay come on you didn't even participate perfectly i don't want it to hurt come

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on you got this if you guys enjoyed this video maybe check it out enter look at

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the elbow okay there you go maybe check out the first time i did a pf sense

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build i managed to kill i think was that the first one the second one

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the third fourth or fifth yeah i don't know it was the one where i kept uh

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tightening the thing and it turns out it wasn't quite compatible with the bracket

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thing and so it would over tighten and like break the traces in the board it

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was bad like he knows how to use computers i mostly do