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rig","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":296.8,"end_s":303.639,"text":"just so you can horrify everyone on the battle station subreddit so there's that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":302.199,"end_s":307.88,"text":"but the fact you watch to the end of this video is the opposite of horrifying","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":305.6,"end_s":311.24,"text":"to me thanks for that hey like it if you liked it dislike it if you disliked it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":309.44,"end_s":314.72,"text":"check out our video on whether SATA will be the next thing to become obsolete","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":313.16,"end_s":318.56,"text":"comment below with video suggestions and don't forget to subscribe and follow","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":317.08,"end_s":322.24,"text":"I'll be watching you better write that comment okay","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"imagine if you looked through your PC's nice tempered glass side panel and saw these gray lasagna noodle looking cables running all over it well in this imagined scenario that I just inserted into your mind those cables are parallel ATA or PA cables and if you've noticed that this sounds suspiciously similar to the modern SATA interface you'd be correct as this is what was used to connect storage devices like hard drives and Optical drives before SATA came along released in 1986 p originally just called ATA or IDE they only called it P later first offered speeds of only 8.3 megab per second which is absolutely poultry by today's standards but speeds increased as the years went on with the fastest versions offering 133 mbes per second which was enough for most consumer grade hard drives if you look closely at a p cable you can see that it's made up of many smaller wires either 40 or 80 with newer versions of P using the ladder this makes sense considering it's a parallel interface as the name indicates an interface being parallel means that it sends and receives data multiple bits at a time instead of just one at a time which is part of the reason P needed so many pins but hold on a second do you remember all those old printer cables they also used a large many pinned connector but the cable itself was usually a round cable that was Far skinnier than these big big ugly P cables so why the heck couldn't they make p cables round to make Cable Management easier well we'll tell you right after we think the sponsor of this video delete me here's a deal right now your personal info is floating around online without your say so and that's not cool thankfully delete me is cool and they're here to get rid of that information delete me can save you from scammers blowing up your phone with robocalls and sketchy emails now manually removing all of your accounts from the web is tedious but delete me software and exper Squad can wipe out that info in a jiffy on average they remove over 2,000 pieces of data for customers in their first 2 years that's some serious cleanup so if you're tired of your personal info playing hide and seek online go to join delet me.com tequi and use code techwick for a sweet 20% off now here's the thing there were some round p cables out there that helped with airf flow gave dust a smaller surface area to collect on and looked a heck of a lot better but more standard P cables were big and ugly for a reason you see as the P standard evolved to move more and more data at one time this meant that you had a higher potential for errors especially as these ribbon cables were unshielded meaning that electrical interference could increase the likelihood of Errors even more to mitigate this the P standard used the extra conductors in the 80 wire version as grounds to help prevent cross talk but also defined a certain length that cables should not exceed 18 in however the issue is that when you bunched all these wires together instead of having them side by side like you would in a ribbon cable the potential for interference is even greater and to make matters worse these round cables were often larger than the standard 18 in although the round cables did often work okay the higher error rate meant that some users had to turn down the maximum speed and aside from these signal Integrity concerns ribbon cables were quite cheap meaning there wasn't much reason for the commodity piece manufacturers of the 1990s to use anything else this also meant that folding cables so that they didn't block air flow too much actually became something of an art form among computer enthusiasts of the time but outside of the ugly cables P had other issues you could put two drives on the same ribbon cable but typically you designate one as device zero or master and the other as device one or slave aside from the off-putting terminology setting this up correctly requires adjusting finicky little jumpers on the back of the drives themselves as opposed to SATA drives where you just plug them into the header and Away you go alternatively you could also use a cable select mode with your paa drives where the master and slave drives were instead assigned based on a wire hole that was punched out on the cable itself speaking of SATA if P was a parallel interface that could send multiple bits at once why is SATA faster well having all those parallel signals going down one data bus presented challenges aside from the interference we already talked about you also have to split data up at one end and recombine it at the other SATA's serial nature is simpler and less prone to interference meaning it started to displace p in the mid 2000s with P drives going out of production around 2013 but you can still get controller cards to allow you to use your old drive and your sweet new rig just so you can horrify everyone on the battle station subreddit so there's that but the fact you watch to the end of this video is the opposite of horrifying to me thanks for that hey like it if you liked it 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