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Everybody knows that a bigger subwoofer means more bass. But what about longer

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subwoofer? I'm going to catch a cable. I'm going to ruin every We're good.

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Longer subwoofer. This is the Bose

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acoustic wave cannon system and it'sing dumb. It's 12 ft long and it can blast

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listeners with super low wubs at up to an ear damagingly high 109 dB. And all

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we had to do was extract it from the home of some maniac on Facebook

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Marketplace. But just how bassy can this thing get? I mean, it's called a sound

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cannon, but as somebody who craves the thunder of the wubs, I have very high

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expectations. The only problem is it's not built yet. So, I've enlisted help of

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good friend of the channel, DMS, so that we can get this thing online, figure out

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why it even exists, and hopefully we can make it sound like one of those old

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Maxwell tape ads. >> Let's do it. Let's do it. Welcome to the

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latest installment of We Bought This Thing. We do not know what we're doing,

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So, the script says unbox it, but there's not really a whole lot of

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unboxing. Yeah, the box probably isn't around anymore cuz the instruction

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manual says copyright 1988. >> But what exactly did we get? I see that

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we have a big tube and I see the driver for the subwoofer, but we also have a

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bunch of other stuff. Yeah. So, like many other Bose products, this requires

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a sort of proprietary power system because this uses DSP, digital signal

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processing, to make it sound a certain way. It's just a fancy way of saying

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they eqed it to make it sound the way they want. So, you couldn't just drop

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this thing into any system. You need this. >> You technically could. However, you

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would need to know what they did EQ-wise if you want it to sound the way it

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should. >> But like, I don't think it's really a normal speaker cuz I have never seen a

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speaker that is um 12 ft long. >> It is a normal speaker. You could

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actually replace this. It's just got a simple speaker tap on the side. And

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this, it's just PVC pipe. Wait, you're saying we spent $1,000 plus however long

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it took to get this here for PVC pipe? >> Yes, but it's a lot less than people

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would have spent on it in the 80s. >> Was PVC expensive in the 80s?

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>> No. Actually, the reason you would build a speaker like this, specifically a

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subwoofer, is because this is the cheapest way you could possibly build it.

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>> Wow, that's so Bose of them. But that doesn't mean it isn't cool. I mean, who

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hasn't wanted to own a cannon? like

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>> it's like a freaking base bazooka. >> Yeah. My favorite thing about it is how

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compact it is. Something you'll notice about this is it's open on both ends. So

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there's not really an enclosure, right? >> Oh yeah. >> That's because this is what's called a

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parallel port. Now the way this works is essentially ports. They help make one

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bass frequency louder than the rest. And we have one big one and one short one.

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So we can kind of combine those and fill out a bigger range of bass. So it's not

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just a one note on one trick pony. >> Another benefit, or maybe it's a

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downside, a characteristic of having your bass in a long tube is that it

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makes it very directional, which means that the bass only goes where you want

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it to go. Ideally, this is why the guy

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who owned this previously had this actually mounted in his dining room

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cabinets, but it blasted all of that sound into his home theater, so it maybe

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didn't disturb the dinner guests too much while he was, you know, sitting by

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himself watching the Dark Knight for the 1700th time. Usually, bass is

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omnidirectional, means it emits in every direction, pierces through walls. That's

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why you can hear your neighbors playing loud music. But the way this thing is

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canceling sound out is the bass frequencies are so long you measure them

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in feet out like this. >> So this you're saying this cancels out

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the frequencies. >> Yes. The distance from that port to the

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other one is so big that those frequencies overlap in the air and

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cancel each other out. So if you're sitting right in front of it, good bass.

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But if you're the guy next door, not so good bass.

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>> Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Before we do this, I actually want to hear what this is

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going to sound like without the tube cuz that way I'm going to know what that

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tube do. >> That means we need to figure out what that rat's nest is.

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>> Wo. >> Oh yeah, that is an extra driver.

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>> Useful if you know you blow one up. >> Do you think we're going to do that? >> I hope not. But it's not outside of the

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scope of possibility. So I don't want to make any promises. >> We're going to blow it up. >> So this thing's weird. Like a lot of

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things were in the 1980s audio wise. It takes balanced inputs on these XLRs.

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It's just weird seeing it wired for it on binding posts that then go out to

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XLRs. >> Yeah, why not just XLR the whole way?

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>> Why not? Indeed. I'm going to take this

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uh thing off of here just because since we're not using it, I don't leave some

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bare wires sitting around that might just short out on us. It's just weird

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that there's binding posts for everything. I'm not used to seeing binding posts leading out to RCAs. And

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why do they have balanced inputs and unbalanced outputs?

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What were they thinking here? What was the what was the plan? >> It's almost like you could like give a

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press conference from here. I'm John Bose, inventor of the Bose headphones

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and Soundwave Cannon. >> You want an overpriced box, we got you

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covered. Sweet. So, now we should be able to play something on this. >> Yes. I'm going to set this beautiful

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thing right here on top. Oh yeah, look

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at that. Why are you not making sound? Why have you forsaken me? Bass tube.

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>> Hey, >> it's doing a little bit. >> Update. Turns out that this Bose uh

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controller uh doesn't really work. So, we plugged it into this SVS Prime

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Wireless Pro Sound Base and plugged that directly into the subwoofer. And would

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you know it, it works. I'm tired, boss.

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>> That's noise coming from me adjusting the knob here.

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>> Well, it's got some peaks. >> Yeah,

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>> there's the That's the frequency of the tube. It's sitting right there.

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>> Is it making that? >> It's resonating off this. Do you want to

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just sit on a couch and see if >> Do we want to rotate it so that it fits?

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>> Fits where? >> Directly. So it faces the couch. >> Oh, you should. This is actually the

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correct orientation. >> What? >> Yeah. >> What? So

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>> you don't you don't want to be in front of it. >> You don't want to You technically want to be on this side.

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>> Why? >> If you are

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on this side, you're going to be farther from one side to the other. You're going to get more phase cancellation.

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>> Oh. So technically this is the correct side according to the maths

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>> cuz what you want to do is launch the sound that way it disperses within the

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room. >> It's coming out both sides. >> Oh. Oh. Oh, I get it now. It's the

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parallel port. I get what you're saying. >> Yes. Which means there should be spots

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when we're walking around on the sides when it should just cancel out and sound

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weird. >> It's not very bassy.

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>> It's not that bassy. What the hell is this? >> Let's find the right side of it.

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But you just walk around and it disappears. >> Yeah, it sounds like a Google Home.

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>> You see why these didn't really catch on? >> But I mean, if you built them into a

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bespoke environment, would it could work? >> If you had a space designed specifically

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where you're trying to only get bass in one spot, that would work great for it,

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>> which seems like a a lot when you have other solutions like just making a

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bigger subwoofer. But a true sign of a good subwoofer is how it integrates into

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an audio system. So DMS hooked us up with these amazing SVS Ultra Evolution.

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It sounds like a Goku type thing. It's basically the endgame for a lot of

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speakers. These things are crazy. How we

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got like what are these 8 in drivers? >> Subwoofer. Subwoofer. Subwoofer.

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Subwoofer. I think this will probably produce more bass than the tube does.

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>> Bro, don't tell me that. Don't tell me that. We spent so much time getting the

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tube. Oh,

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okay. Let's try it. We got the We got the tower set up. We got the Bose

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acoustic wave cannon set up. Let's see how good it sounds.

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Okay. So,

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>> yeah. >> What happens if we

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>> take out the base cannon? >> My guess, not much.

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>> It's honestly just cleaner. It's just cleaner. It's a little bit less

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boominess maybe. No, it's it's just

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better. >> Yeah, it's just better. >> It just sounds better. >> I feel like a I feel like a [ __ ]

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idiot.

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>> Our suffering is other people's >> so excited about this bass cannon and

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it's garbage. >> Honestly, the tube is still a little bit better than I thought it would be.

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>> Really? >> Yeah. >> Better. You thought it was You had low expectations. >> Speakers weren't that good in the 80s.

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>> I feel like everyone's talking about like, "Oh, my dad's like 70s hi-fi speakers are so good." Yeah, but '7s

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hi-fi in most cases, the vast majority of cases, is not nearly as good as like

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$100 modern speakers on Amazon. But generally speaking, things were not very

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progressed acoustically in the 80s. >> Dad, don't watch this. They're not that

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good. You haven't written it yet, but I heard your comments. You're saying, why

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would they test that subwoofer in a big warehouse? That's not even like a good

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use case for it. So, we decided to bring it to the lounge where it's a more m

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normalsiz space and probably something that's kind of relevant to this actual

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use case. Probably a pretty big room for a house, but a reasonable size for a

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community space. So, we think that this is a more fair representation. This is a

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>> 88 in TV. >> It's a lot of TV. >> And look at how big the tube is.

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>> It looks like almost two of that TV. >> It's It's so stupid. Okay, but let's

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hear how it sounds. Let's play it. All right, >> we're not here for the TV. >> I have no idea how loud this is.

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Can I give it more juice?

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>> It sounds a lot better in here. >> Yeah, significantly. So, I don't think

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that it could pressurize that warehouse, but in a room of this size, I mean, it

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works, >> but it doesn't really have like a lot of like rumble. Like, it it felt like I

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could hear bass. >> Yeah. >> But I wasn't feeling it. >> It sounds more like a woofer than a

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subwoofer. I would say even in a room this size, it's a bit cumbersome still.

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Um, do you want to compare it to like a normal sub?

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>> We're now listening on the 10-in Mackie sub. >> Yeah.

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>> So, funny enough, the Wave Cannon actually did sound a little bit deeper.

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>> Yeah, I was thinking that. I think the Mackie sounded tighter.

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>> I do think as a whole the Mackie sounds better to me. Yeah, but I felt like I

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got more of the bass experience from the Canon here. >> Yeah. Surprising.

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>> I mean, again, this is a 12-in woofer.

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That's a 10-in woofer. >> A 10-in woofer in like a 1 ft box versus

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a 12-in woofer and a 14 ft tube.

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>> So, like they both have their strengths. Would I say that it would make sense to

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implement this 12in 15 or 12t long 12-in

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subwoofer versus that tiny compact 10 in? Absolutely not. There's no

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deployment. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Where I would be like like if if you really needed it, just get another one

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of those. >> Yeah. And in the situations where these were manufactured for where you would

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like stack them, that might actually do some cool stuff.

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>> I Yeah. >> But for the amount of space it takes up and how much it would have cost at the

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time. >> Let's go back to Labs and compare this

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against another subwoofer. >> This is the SVS PB17 Ultra Evolution.

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Holy sh. It's insane. >> It is.

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>> It's like >> even tapping on it. Listen.

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>> It's like the size of a mini fridge. >> Yes. These are about 165 lbs a piece and

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6,000 W. And we have two of them. >> So, these have a 17in woofer, whereas

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this thing only had a 12-in woofer. >> Yes. And the magnets on these things go

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back to like here. >> That's

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>> It doesn't It's adjust to the scale of this thing. Here's a 10-in subwoofer for

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scale. >> And this is what we would call like a pretty good subwoofer.

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>> Yeah, that's pretty beefy. You want enough bass to fight God?

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>> I want to hear this. We got to hear it.

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It sounds terrible. It's so much base.

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It's at half. Yeah,

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it's at half. For reference, the speakers are all the way over there

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pointing in a different direction. And this is causing

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the robotic arm to sense force. Where?

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Holy crap.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah.

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>> Holy [ __ ] >> That was like the whole building like

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the the AC and the the the LED wall.

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>> Yes. >> Try one more thing. >> Two things.

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>> I've seen people put four of these in their houses before.

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>> This is crazy. It's so much. It feels like a theater. Yeah,

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>> I like how this video was supposed to be about this Bose acoustic wave cannon,

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but it ended up just being like, "Wow, look at these SVS subs." >> Yeah. And realistically, again, I don't

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I don't think anybody needs this specifically. I feel like someone could

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get by just fine with like a $400 SVS sub and that would be insane.

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>> Yeah. They probably need these SVS subs about as badly as they need the Acoustic

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Wave Cannon system. >> Yes. >> So, in that sense, this is almost the perfect comparison.

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>> It really is. They're both needless and you can

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probably satisfy anything that you need with a very very affordable and

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effective option. Actually, we'll have some good subwoofer recommendations from

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DMS himself down linked below. >> But if you wanted to go absolutely

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insane with it, >> no better way. >> This is the way. Yeah.

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>> Skip the tube. Get the 17in subs.

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>> Yep. Slap these in a home theater. run

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them at a very low volume to protect what little hearing you're gonna have left after like one meeting.

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>> Wonder how much productivity we've destroyed today in Labs since they're

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like right there. >> I warned them. >> Just to give the Canon as fair of a

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chance as I possibly could, I set up a low pass filter and then did some DSP

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tuning by ear to try and match what they're doing with this guy. It's not

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going to be perfect, but honestly, it's a big improvement over where we were at.

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I don't know exactly what sort of DSP curve they're applying here, but if I

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had to guess, it's probably close to what I just did digitally. >> Yeah, I can like feel the pressure in my

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ears. I don't like feel it, though.

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>> That's a bass tube.

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>> That's bass tube.

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We'll have that linked in the video description. Thanks for watching this

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video. Thanks to DMS for coming out and helping us out. And thanks to SVS for

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sending over those speakers. And uh if you like this video, why don't you check

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out uh the fire truck that we can put some crazy subs in there, give it a

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whole sound system upgrade. Now that now that truck is fire. That joke was

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probably made in the video. I probably not the first one to make that. >> That's pretty good though.

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>> I know it is good. Joke's so nice. We made it twice.