That could be a problem.
Welcome to the show. I just realized something potentially horrible. We've
got some pretty good topics this week. There's the R9 Fury Nano. I hate
you. I have had enough problems in the last half an hour. That could be
horrible, actually. Which I'm blaming Luke for it this week. He loves He loves
talking about how the show always starts when I set it starts on time when I set
it up. And I was like, "Okay, all right.
Well, then I came in. I was like, "Okay, Luke, go set up the WAN Show cuz I'm
working on a build log." And he already finished his video for the day and he's
like, "Yeah, okay." So, I come back 20 minutes before showtime and I'm like,
"The W show is not set up." And he's like, "Oh, well, Brandon was ironing the
tablecloth, so I couldn't work on it till he was done."
What? Well, I'm going to I'm going to let them
be judge, jury, and executioner over here as to as to whether as to whether
that is a good enough excuse because the the everything was actually in place. It
was just off the table and not configured. No,
to be fair, it actually was configured because of last week and I plugged
everything back in and your fancy they always work blackmagic cards obviously
didn't work. Oh, my fancy Blackmagic always No, they never work. You told me
last week you were like just plug everything into Blackmagics. They've been working for a long time now. And
this week you said the same thing and both times they didn't work. The Black Magics had been working for a long time.
That is true. But the actual problem we've run into is that our never
fail averia cards have stopped working.
I've never had the U3 work. Really? Yeah. Oh, the U3's been great for me. I
No, I've been carrying it around in my backpack. Wait, this is the U3, right? Yeah. Every time I stream on the Blade,
I'm using the U3. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been great. The portable or
whatever it's called is the one that always works. Okay. Now, the problem with the U3 for me, it all comes back
down to freaking micro USB 3.0, it is
the worst connector on Earth. And you
know what's funny is a lot of people will run around and defend it. They'll
say, "Oh, well, you know what? It's actually rated for X number of
insertions." I don't care how many insertions it's rated for. That is
meaningless. You know how many How many insertions I'm rated for? Lots. You know
how many manufacturers ever implemented micro USB 3 on a phone? One. You know
how many times they did it? Once. Because that was enough. And actually,
most people that I know, also known as one person that I thought that was your
phone for a second. I was like, whoa. Oh, I love my phone. Whoa. Uh, the only
person I know that has that just actually uses just micro USB normal
anyways cuz they lost their cable. like, "Okay, speaking of losing your cable,
that one actually uh if you don't use the cable included in the box, I tried
literally every single other micro USB 3
cable that we have in the building uh when I was having trouble streaming two
weeks ago, and none of them, it's like
it's slightly non-standard. The contacts are slightly longer, so none of them
were deep enough to
penetrate. So, uh great topics for today, you guys. Uh, Apple's event was
this week. They announced a whack ton of stuff. It's um, it baffles me that watch
OS and watch got so much stage time with
but Linus 97% positive feedback rating.
U, so we'll talk about that more later. Also, speaking of 97% positive feedback,
AMD launched their Fury Nano to mixed
reviews. What else we got this week? Russia is working on Jurassic. Uh, well,
okay. It says Jurassic, but like not really. It's like Ice Age in real life,
right? Yeah. Mammoths. They're trying to bring a mammoth back to life. Cross it
with an elephant, blah, blah, blah. What's his name? Ray Romano. Ray Romano.
Romano. Thank you. Well, whatever. He's the voice of the mammoth. And I Oh,
yeah. Yeah. I don't remember the character's name. He Manny's annoying.
Yeah, Manny. Hey, you kind of said it, man. He's annoying. Manny. Yeah. Hey,
you kind of figured it out. I'm actually closer to the like stupid mircat thing.
It's like, speaking of stupid Nintendo, is that such is that a clear? Is that a
straight Hold on, hold on. I got to No, no, no. I got to interrupt you. That's such a good segue. I know you did really
well, but but I'm ruining it because that's how I roll. So, is Ice Age a
straight ripoff of Lion King?
No. You got your thing with tusks. You got your silly mircat. Okay.
You got your You got your big cat.
Uh-huh. Yeah. But the big cat is you got your love interest.
Okay. And you've got uh a uh a bird. Well, the
squirrel the squirrel flies around a lot.
And Zazu actually doesn't fly much. Yeah. So, well, no, he flies a fair bit.
I mean, there's that musical number just Can't wait to be king when he's not
being trampled or the Lion King. They like heal that part of the earth. They
heal the earth kind of. Yeah. Cuz when when okay when when the scar or whatever
takes over and is like bashing Simba's mom in the face and whatnot, the earth
around Pride Rock kind of dies. What's her name? All the plant life dies.
Nairobi. Nairobi. I don't remember. Is that a Is that a country? Maybe. Hold
on. Okay, so there's Simba, Nala, Mufasa. Nairobi sounds like a mouse from
Razer. What is her name? Nadala. Why is Nadala
coming to No, that's Microsoft's uh
Twitch chat's not telling me. I don't know. Twitch chat is not helping us.
Sarabi. Yeah, Sarabi. Thank you. Okay,
so what was our last topic? Our last highlight. Uh Nintendo are being butts.
Is that Nintendo's like the cutest, happiest, just most ignorant company. I
know. I know. Speedrunner. They slapped him in the face and everything sucked.
Well, they did. They more than slapped him in the face. Like, it's pretty brutal. Okay, we'll talk about it later.
Let's run the intro. Maybe that'll work this week.
Nope. Wow. Just Just click back and forth
really fast. New guest and intro and then slow down cuz you don't want to
stop it if it actually works. What are you talking about? That worked for me both times last week. That worked for
you? Yeah, because the problem is it's not actually properly loading. It's not
that the file is incorrectly targeted. Mhm. It's just that it's not properly
loading. So, so I just gave it multiple attempts to load and it worked.
Okay. Uh, so if I just find it the same one.
Why are all these intros in here? There should just be one intro. There. There
it is. Okay. I'm going to No, I'm going to delete the rest of them. I'm going to do it now. That sounds like a productive
thing to do on the W show. Yeah. I am actually I am using this WAN Show
airtime to make future WAN Show airtime better.
Yeah. Oh,
yay. Out loud. My stream just loaded.
It's been sitting there open this whole time. Our sponsors this week, OneUp
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Wow. Maybe it's a good thing that you might
be late tonight. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I I even tweeted this
morning. I was my because my I was on my way out the door and my wife's like,
"Are you going to be home on time?" And I'm like, "Yeah, as long as Wancho goes
okay." And she's like, "Okay, so you
won't be home on time?" And I'm just
like, "Bye, babe. See you later." Get
it? Later. Oh. Oh. All right. So, we
have a great show for you today, guys. Uh, we're not going to kick off right
with the the big Apple event. We're going to jump into Do we not have a
forum link for this one? Oh, that's weird. Wow. Nerds. That's weird. All
right. So, Android Authority is going to be our source for I'm going to move this
mouse over here. There's one of one of
the sources is called Android Authority. The other one is called Android Police.
Why are the Android coverages so like aggressive, totalitarian? Like I don't
understand. All right, so Google officially rolling out Android Pay
starting today with an update that you can grab the APK and get it going right
now. So this is their official competitor for Apple Pay. I love the way
that they really thought outside the box in terms of the naming for this. Yep. I
mean, they didn't want people to get confused, you know, AP AP when we were
like, "Yeah, I'm just going to pay via AP with my like
um, you know, wireless contacts, whatever."
The weird. I I was at a store in Seattle and they had like the ability to pay
with your phone, but they didn't have a chip reader.
Yeah. No, that's that's that's normal. So, for our American friends, um it it's
really funny. I was I was no idea. Yeah, I was at Burger King observing the
hilarity of their menu. Did you see that tweet I sent out? No. So, on their menu,
they've got like their soft drinks and their and their sides, you know, like
your French fries and they have freedom fries. Excuse me. And then they've got
they've got they've got your they got your burgers and then they have a small
part called salad and other
which includes the veggie burger. And I'm just like only in America is the
veggie burger more of a salad than it is a
burger. And people were giving me crap about this on Twitter. They're like well
uh it says other. And I'm like yeah but it's Burger King. There's a burger
category. There's a burger category and the veggie burger isn't in the burger
category. It's not This isn't This isn't a steakhouse. This isn't a Japanese
restaurant. Salads and other. You know
what was I even talking about? That's like having a list of sushi and then
being like, "No, that one's only avocado." So, that goes in the other
That goes in the other a or like rolls, right? Yeah. There you go. Because you
could put you could put the avocado roll outside of sushi. That would make
perfect sense. So, rolls. But it's like rolls and it's like well you know this
one is more it's got like ground beef in it so it's more of a hamburger.
So it's in with like milkshakes and other
No, you can't do you can't just make up new rules as you go along. I'd love for
someone to open a like mostly vegetarian
restaurant just so it can be the other way around. So it could be like salads
and then like I don't know something and other Yeah. So it would have like a
chicken salad, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, salads. Chicken salads. Um, all
right. So, it's a gradual roll out starting today. It's not available to
all of the US yet. And the Android Pay application is to fully replace the
Google Wallet app. So, you require pay
services 8.1.13 and it's available for anyone
running a KitKat 4.4 device or later.
you it's so it can support credit and debit cards from American Express,
Discover, Mastercard and Visa. So basically the ones that matter pretty
much um and while not all banks in the
US will be supporting it yet, there are some major ones on board including some
credit unions and they are expecting more and more to come on board over
time. Now, this is something that I bring up in my OnePlus 2 review that is
going to be coming out very soon, but you must have an NFC enabled smartphone.
The OnePlus 2 does not support NFC,
which is really baffling to me. Uh because not only is now Android Pay
going to be requiring NFC, I mean what Android smartphone other than the very
lowest of the lowest tier of the low NFC
hasn't had NFC not just now but for years. Oh yeah. Even things like like it
it's actually become amazingly easy for me to switch between mobile devices.
Like I used to actually not do as many phone reviews as I do now simply because
it was such a pain in the butt to get all of my information and all of my apps
and all my crap transferred. But now, thanks to things like Hangouts and
switching over to that instead of using uh apps that don't cloud sync, um thanks
to things like uh the Play Store, uh making it really easy for you to just
grab all the apps that were on your last backup of your previous phone and the
NFC transfer wizard. So, all you have to do is take your two phones, put them
together, and go enter your passwords one by one by one for all your accounts.
Boom, you're transferred. pretty much all you have to do is change your your
icons on your desktop to be in the ideal positions. It's
fantastic. Not supported on the OnePlus 2, which is just baffling. Um, what else
is there to say about There's interesting things like your credit and debit number isn't sent with your
payment. There's a secure code that isn't that code that Google will kind of
bounce around and use. So, this is much like Apple Pay. Yeah. Which is actually
really cool. I like that personally. Um, and Android Pay makes it easy to check
for suspicious activity because you can quickly check your payment history and
see where they all happened, which is awesome because credit cards suck for
that. Yep. And the other thing the other thing credit cards and cards suck for in
general is loyalty programs and rewards. Um, like I
mean I can't wait to have Apple Pay and
Android Pay in Canada for that reason alone. Like my stupid local grocery
store, Nester's Market. Ever even heard of it? Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, okay.
You're local. Whatever. Most of you, but like I hadn't. It's like rinky dink and
stupid. And many grocery stores, a Save on Foods still does this. Don't even
allow you to just give them your phone number. You actually have to carry the
stupid card. You can have an app on your phone now. You can. Yes, you can have an
app on your phone, but still stupid. And I tried to like make the app on my phone
work and I honestly couldn't. But the experience of just paying and having it
automatically track through Android Pay or Apple Pay is much much better and
will allow many of us to have thinner wallets. Yes. All right. So, let's move
on to the R9 Nano. This was originally posted on the forum by Mule. Are you
posting this in the chat? Sure. All right. Do you have it already or do you
want me to do it? I don't. You don't. I can grab it though. Just do the thing. You can grab it. You sure?
Just grab it under the table. I don't think they allow that sort of thing on Twitch. Uh, so let's go ahead and fire
up the old Well, I've got two mice in front of me, which always trips me crap
out. So, I'll fire up the PC per review done by our buddy over there, Ryan
Shrout. Um, this card this card has
generated about as much controversy as
any that I can think of over the past little while. Um, is our is our video up
on Vessel yet? Vessel. Yeah, it's up on Vessel. Okay. So, why don't you why
don't you summarize your impressions and then we'll we'll kind of talk about what
the rest of the internet thought and whether they agreed with you or not and
go from there. Okay. So, in terms of
performance, uh price performance, not very good, but
I didn't expect that from a card who's like I'm small and fast, so that's
probably fine. Um it's actual performance. So, you wouldn't expect my
performance to be good. Well, it depends on what scenario.
Okay, sorry. Go ahead. Anyways, um well, no, I wouldn't expect your performance
to be cost effective. So, you would expect me to charge a lot,
but work really well. That's a good That's fine. Anyways, so I hate this
show. So, it performed better than what
our our Fury I think I'm trying to remember off the top
of my head. I know it traded blows with the 980, which is pretty impressive. The
980 is I think about $100 cheaper, but then the 980 is like what, twice as
long, I think. So, that's actually not bad. I thought it was a really
interesting card because it's just as long as your PCI Express slot. So,
people that want to make like literally
tiny as hell computers would be able to do that because you don't have to make
it any longer than your motherboard. Uh, one thing I kind of wish they did was
make the eight pin point upwards instead of out of the card. But then there's
debate there as well because then you're making it taller instead of longer and
then it's like, okay, well, which one do you want? I kind of want taller. But I
think that's I think there's no real way to win there because this is something
that I that I actually pointed out to uh either Brandon when he was doing B-roll
or John when Brandon was doing B-roll. But what I was saying was the R9 uh Fury
Nano is actually what about a/ an inch or 3/4 of an inch shorter than our 970
Mini. Yeah. Um that that AMD is really positioning this card against as the as
the equivalent small form factor card.
And my comment was, well, hold on a second because depending on the case
configuration, these two could actually end up being the same or the NVIDIA card
could even end up being a little bit better because like you were saying, the
Nano plugs in on the end and you have to factor in that additional space taken up
by the PCI Express power connector whereas in ASUS's implementation of a of
a mini 970 has it coming out of the top.
And whether this is better or worse for you is ultimately just going to come
down to the case that you're putting it in. And to me, that really is the the
the center of the argument about the R9
Fury Nano is what computer requires this? What was
it actually made for? Did AMD run out
and make a card that no one was asking for and no one needed? Because if you
look at the way that MiniITX case design
has gone over the last uh I'd say over the last about 2 to 3 years with uh with
things like the end case coming out um things like uh that that Steam Machine
prototype that Valve was sending out. They're all designed for a full fat 10
and a half inch NVIDIA graphics card.
Like they're all that's mainly because that's all there really was. Why why why
would you make a case that can't fit graphics cards? No, no, I I get it. But
here's the other side of that is the
motherboard is only, you know, 6 in wide or whatever and the graphics card was 10
and 12 in, but we were using that other
space. That's where we're putting our drives. Uh that's where some sometimes
we're putting our power supply. So, while the R9 Fury Nano in my mind is a
product that has no place today, what I
like about it is that the Fury Nano is
the perfect card for the case that I want to exist. The Lionus Edition case,
that's what I'm saying. No one would build a case for it now because it doesn't exist yet. Exactly. So, the one
that I want is a case, and I I I pitched this to Cooler Master, and I give Nate a
hard time every time I see him that they've never made it, but I wanted
something that really was about the size of like a PS4, really small. External
power brick is okay, but the R9 Fury
Nano would be the card if we get rid of
the hard drives. So, we bail on hard drives altogether. We only use 2 and 12
in drives. The R9 Fury Nano would be the card that would actually fit if, and
they were so close on this, if they had opted for a blower type design. I'm
really, really sketched out by that
internal just scatter the air around type cooler that they went and put on
the reference card. So, you know, I I think why don't
we just why don't we hear from why don't we hear from you guys here? I'm going to
create a straw poll. I want to know R9 theory
nano failure
success cool in theory but not interested and of course
turnip and I and I really I'd like you guys to I'd like you guys to answer
pretty honestly here. I really want to hear from you because this is one of
those products where AMD is trying to
sell it not based on FPS per dollar,
which is all they've really chased for a long time now. They're trying to sell it
based on a less tangible value proposition. Like, hey, we made
something with great power consumption. Okay, yeah, it might thermal throttle a
little bit if you install it in a super tiny case, but quite frankly, what wouldn't?
Um, do you like it? So before we go
ahead and jump into the results of that straw pull, I have another one to share
with you guys. They're trying things and people hammer on them a lot for not
trying things and then they tried something and people are hammering on them for it. So like I think we kind of
need to pick one. I don't want to hate on the engineer. I mean I was I was like
right on board when NVIDIA was launching cards like the GTX 590 and cramming two
580s essentially in 6 in each. I mean, if you if you really think about it,
that's what AMD has done here. They've done the engineering work for a dual GPU
card and then they cut off the back. Nope.
They cut off the second GPU. Um, have
they laid the groundwork perhaps for a a Fury X2? I kind of hope so, cuz it it
looks like that's pretty much what they've done. But, uh, you know, you have to respect the engineering that
goes into something like that. So, does it trip you out that we're wearing the
same shirt? 35% of you say yes, 21% of
you say no, and 44% of you have thrown away your vote. Um, you know what's
really funny about the whole vote for turnup thing? Yes. Is those shirts
started shipping right around the time that Donald Trump started really making
headlines. And every time I see a vote for turnip
shirt when someone tweets it at me or whatever, it really does feel like
mocking Trump's presidential campaign.
Does it not? Are we not supposed to have some? Um, we never No, we never got
samples of that. But then I forgot to order mine this time and I actually sent
Teespring after the campaign was over. I was like, "Hey, um, so it's kind of my
campaign. Can I still get one?" And they actually sent me not one but three
mediums. Sorry. So, I'm giving one to Austin when he shows up tomorrow. And uh
and then I don't know what to do with the other one. Maybe we'll next time we have a meet up or something, I'll bring
it along. Or maybe I won't. Oh, yeah. This is a great topic. Austin lands
tomorrow. So, without without teasing too much, Austin and I are going to be
working on a collab video tomorrow that's going to be kind of a lowkey
small project. And then Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday, next week we are filming. So not Thursday. What? Not Thursday. Good
job. Cool. Everything's fine.
Okay. So, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, next week, we are filming Scrapyard Wars
3, and it is going to be a three-way
between me, Luke, and Austin for your
viewing pleasure. Oh my god, there's gonna be so many
jokes about that. Who's going to be in the middle during the
You guys won't get that till later, but someone's going to be in the middle for
sure at one point in time. All right, so that's going to be great. Let's go ahead
and check out the results of our other straw pull. Kind of hope it's me.
You know, I think I lack the hand eye
coordination to play the middle.
I've never been like a great dancer and I think I used to be in dancing. You'd
have to have like pretty good, you know, rhythm, if you know what I mean.
All right. Oh my god. Um, so let's go ahead and screen share with me. R9 Fury
Nano. Wow. 57% of you cool in theory not
interested with another 8% of you. So, it's a total of 65% of you saying either
not interested or failure and 16% of you
saying success. And the funny thing about that those numbers is that if we
extrapolate and blend the turnup results
proportionally into the other numbers, that's pretty much the NVIDIA to AMD
market share. Yeah.
So, is it is it that AMD fans are interested or is it that should we do an
NVIDIA AMD poll? I I to see what our
audience is because that market share isn't necessarily
properly applied to our viewership. No. No. So there could be a higher AMD
percentage. It might not represent our community, which is which is a very
which is very interesting because that market share is largely what what is
that? The Steam pole that that's based off of. Uh no, I think that's like like
reporting data blah blah blah. Oh wow. Okay. Well, still it's like a real
thing. Still, a lot of those people like say you bought a pre-built or it's still
technically a pre-built if like NCX builds it for you. So, say you bought
one of those. Wouldn't more of their systems that they're doing be NVIDIA
systems? Someone like NCIX? Yeah. Um
like if if they're offering like a this is our preconfigured build that you can
buy. Are more of those NVIDIA based? you know, back when I was doing it, um,
generally speaking, we tried to keep it
pretty balanced. Okay. Um, and not not
balanced like in terms of of market share, proportional market share, but we
tried to keep it pretty balanced in that we tried to offer an AMD or an NVIDIA
graphicsbased system at each sort of tier. Okay. I'm not sure how they do it
now. I'm just wondering if there's more spotlight on it. So, if someone was just
randomly like, "Oh, I'm gonna build the gaming PC." I can I what I can say is
that NVIDIA, what can I say without saying
too much? What I'll say is that NVIDIA really has their crap together marketing
wise. So, if there was someone that we were going to collaborate with on like a
special edition painted green PC and we wanted to cross-promote and and and
coordinate a marketing campaign with back then, which is two and a half years
ago, very outdated knowledge. Someone has a good point. They have both. Who
both? Yeah. Uh, pick your daily driver rig. Come on, make this easy on us. And
he said specifically discrete graphics. Yeah, I did specifically say discrete
graphics. I could make the argument that I'm running Intel graphics on this
laptop, but come on. Yeah. Come
on. Come on. We need Nikki V. Yeah, we
need Nikki V over here to tell you guys what's up with No, we don't. We do not
need Nikki V. Come on. Yes, that was
great. Favorite part of W show 2015. It was
better than mine. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Much better, actually. All right.
So, 68% of you are saying NVIDIA with 28% of you AMD and 4% of you gaming on
the Xbox. Um, so could we live without 4% of our
audience? Probably. I think we could. Yeah. Um, but like this this this shows
a higher percentage. Just kidding. Just kidding. This shows a higher percentage.
So that means that I guess some of the AMD guys weren't as interested in the
Nano, but that's not surprising because even though small form factor is getting
much more popular lately, it's still not as popular
stuff. You guys can correct me. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but would
it be totally unfair for me to say that among the sort of the the higher tier
tech enthusiast community, so I'm not just talking the typical average gamer
who's going to walk into Best Buy and buy a graphics card. I'm talking the guys who are who who care about this
show and us discussing who has more graphics card market share.
Basically, what's happening that kind of thing? I mean, that's the kind of show you're tuned into. Deal with it. Um, but
would it be safe to say that amongst that crowd, there would be more people
making a graphics card decision based on something like, "Well, gee, I'd sure
like AMD to survive. Would I be willing to give up 5% FPS or would I be willing
to give up Gamestream or CUDA or whatever NVIDIA feature might sway you?
Would I be willing to give that up and support AMD to try and get them through
the hard times? Cuz it's hard times over there, guys. Yeah, like the word on the
street is upwards of 20% of their company was just basically bought. Um,
so they got a cash infusion out of it, but they no longer own fabs. They no
longer own like a freaking whack ton of
their company stock. And they just spun
off the graphics division as Radeon graphics business unit or or something
along those lines with uh um just making
ATI again. Ah, I loved ATI. I don't know why
I just did. Very few of those people are still there. I know. I hope you know
that. I know. Okay. It's just a It's just an emblem at this point. Okay.
I also back in my fanboy days. You know what's funny? I have a lot of people
accuse me of being a fanboy. I had fanboy days. I had fanboy days. I did. I
am no longer a fanboy because I I was an ATI fanboy. I was an ATI. Other than
that, I didn't really care. But I was ATI fan. I am so I am so jaded now that
everything that comes across my desk is
plastic and metal and if it doesn't impress me, I don't care if the Pope
made it. It I I it doesn't it doesn't matter. But in my fanboy days, this is
something I rarely talk about. I was an
AMD ATI fanboy. I had AMD processors
from X2. Yeah, boy. Actually, I put
those in so many computers. The Athlon X2 4400 Plus was the most that I ever
spent of my own hard-earned money. And I worked hard for that money. I painted
houses. Okay, that was the most of my
hard-earned money that I have ever spent on a single computer component. I spent
$750 or $800 on a 4,400 plus on the
launch day because yeah, on launch day I
went to NCX Burnaby. Well, first I called up my sales guy, Mr. Xenon. I
called him up representing NCX Bernabby
OG. Called up Xenon. I said, "Zenon, do
you have stock of the 4,400 plus?" He goes, "Yeah, but why would you want
that? That's so expensive." He's a good sales guy. He He was He was looking out
for my interest. Okay. I'm like, "Zenon, man, you don't understand. This is a
dual core. It's an Athlon
64, but two of them. This is not some
hyperthreading nonsense. This is like
two CPU cores, man." And he's like,
"Okay, I'll put it aside for you." I drove right down there. I picked that
sucker up, got myself a new motherboard.
Man, that felt good. And it was great.
But it was not about the fact that it was made by AMD. It was about the fact
that it was an amazing piece of technology. So, even in my AMD fan days
when I was rocking the All-in-One Wonder 9600 Pro, which I upgraded to an X800
Pro, which I upgraded to an X850 XT, I
was a little bit of a I was a little bit of a an upgrade every generation sort of
guy back then. Um,
and that's when generations were fast. Did I ever tell you about my story of uh
buying the computer built and then taking it all apart and building it again? No. Um, I I shopped around for a
really long time for deals because I was a kid and there wasn't the cash flow
wasn't high. So, I had enough money and like this was basically what I had.
There wasn't like a work for a another month and then you'll get it. It was
like work for another month and you'll have 10 more dollars. Like, no, this was
it. So, I shopped around for a really long time getting all the deals that I could, the best deals that I could, even
like trying to negotiate on the phone. And I got one place to finally do it,
but they had super super wanted to bundle in the pre-build thing, but it
was like 25 bucks and it still ended up
being cheaper total than anywhere else. Was that Addict Computers? I think so.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I was like, "Okay, sure." They did it. I took it home. I
took the whole thing apart, put it all back together, and then ran that way.
So, I actually had uh I actually bought
one of the components for my first hilarious. I know. They charge $25 for
assembly. They were the only store in that time that was charging $25 for
assembly. And let me tell you, I've seen computers they assembled. You got your
$25 worth. That's why I took it apart. Yeah. It was not It was not that great.
Uh my first computer, I actually bought one component at Attic Computers, the
hard drive, and I had to make a tough choice for myself. I either was going to
get the 120 gig drive with the 2meg
cache, okay? or the 80 gig drive with
the 8meg cache. Oh, they were the same price. Did I want 50% more capacity?
Bearing in mind that to me 80 gigs was
like like my computer literally had like
a 600 megabyte hard drive in it at that point. And I think I had like like a 900
megabyte D drive or like something obscene. Like I had less than I had less
than one and a half gigs of overall storage. I was running a P90. Okay. like
it was sad or like a 133, whatever. It
was like it was some it was some sadness. And um and and just to just put
that in the proper perspective, I was running a Pentium 1 at the at a time
when I was my first computer that I built for myself. I bought a 2500 plus
Barton core. Okay, so like that was some outdated stuff. I was like, "Yay, I can
play Age of Empires 2 now."
Um, where was I going with this? Right.
So, I walked out the door with the 120 gig drive and I went, "No, 80 gigs is
enough. I want the extra cash." I walked back in with the sealed drive. Those
bastards charged me a 15% restocking fee. Oh my god. On a sealed product. You
did it, too? I did it. I wanted the cash. I wanted the cash. I wanted the
cash. And I paid the cash to get the cash. Oh my goodness. What the hell are
we even talking about? What is this show? We were talking about fanboyism
and how we both used to be ATI fans. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cuz I was like a I was
a pretty hard ATI fan. I used to keep all the like I'd sell the graphics card
but keep the box cuz I thought the box art was so cool. I probably have
pictures of my box nook. Okay. So,
you've never seen the old house I used to live in. Um, but out in the boondocks
of Maple Ridge, I was the only one who who had a room in the basement because
my older sister is an idiot and didn't take the basement room. I was like, "You
enjoy your attic that if you want to come home late at night, you have to
walk past mom and dad's room, pull down
the ladder." Oh, wow. And walk up. She fell out of that attic multiple times.
Okay. Like we're talking you're an idiot. It
was boiling hot in the summer. Like okay, whatever. Anyway, as a second
child, I managed to score the basement bedroom. It's a good move. The one thing
I had to contend with was the TV. Okay.
And this was back in the days when families only had one TV, and that TV
was a CRT TV, and my hearing was pretty sensitive in the high range. I could
hear I could hear the scanning gun um
firing the electrons and that was pretty obnoxious actually through the wall for
me and my mom was always watching Dennis
what's his stupid name and he's actually Dennis Miller always watching Dennis
were like asking Dennis what the name was I wouldn't ask Dennis anything um
she was always watching Dennis Miller live and it was late at night and I was
like mother go to bed or put the TV
somewhere anyway so that was the only issue I had to contend with. So, we
actually had a downstairs kitchen. The whole downstairs had a separate entrance
from the back and it was set up as a full suite.
So, both the upstairs and downstairs had access to the laundry room easily and it
had a full downstairs kitchen that we hadn't used in years. Um, so I actually
set up my gaming rig in the like bay
window equivalent to the bay window upstairs in the dining room. Yeah. And I
had on the Windows. So, we had our basement set up. So it was about 3 to
four feet out of the ground so you could have natural light in the basement. I had all the Windows covered with boxes
of motherboards, graphics cards, CPUs,
power supplies, the works. It was awesome. That's cool. And that was when
I was running like my like I think every
computer geek runs this side business thinking like I'm going to be the next
system builder. Yeah. and they buy parts with the like discount at the local
store and then they find friends and relatives and I did pretty okay with
that. Me too. Me too. I was good at it.
But um so obviously I had more parts and it's a great way to get games. Got to
try to sell people cases and fans, man. Got to convince them they need that
nicer case and they need all the fans. But I never sold anyone an expensive
cable. Not once. No. Because there's actual value to a better case in there
is actual value to cooling fans. There
is no value to a fancy HDMI cable. No, I'm sorry to all those who make fancy
HDMI cables. Yeah. Um I don't know what
we're talking about. Why don't we You know what? Why don't we jump right into the Apple event and then we'll do
sponsors or something like that. So, this was posted by Alex goes high on the
forum. I'm going to go ahead and screen share
with you guys. Apple special event. They
actually built this auditorium basically the entire thing. Oh no, no, no, no.
That's when like just you shouldn't have that much money. Just go away. They
bought like they they legit straight up bought stadium seating and installed it
to do this enormous live event. Uh this is a completely custom custom screen and
all that stuff. And you know what's really funny is the press
Wow. Wow. Wow. Autoplay. Yay. The press
that covers Apple products just blows my
mind. I'm not going to name any names, but I was just like I was I was reading
up some some on some blogs and you know getting other people's thoughts on some
of the stuff before we did WAN Show today. And this one blogger who's
talking about the event goes on for so
long about how much better it was than
previous events and how it like restored his faith in Tim Cook's ability to lead
the company and how Apple can function without jobs. understand the religious
fanaticism and I'm just like I beg your
pardon. Who cares? Yeah. Why do we give
a [ __ ] Yeah. Quite frankly, that's what I mean. Like I don't understand that
side of it. It
the it comes down to not being a fanboy.
Yeah. Look at it for what it is. Does it
matter to me that this wallet is made by
I don't even know
Swiss gear. I don't know who my wallet is made by, but I know it has like a new
Schwanstein stamp on it. No cool. What matters is how many cards it holds, how
robust it was it is. Incidentally, this one has held together incredibly well
for me. Not that Swiss gear is, you know, a sponsor or anything, but I
figure if I'm going to talk about it and evaluate it, then I might as well say
what it is. And like that's it. Does it
does it have a style that appeals to you? Great. It doesn't matter that
someone got on stage and told me about it in a really pleasing way. Grow up.
Anyway, some of the worst presenter like Okay, people are going to shoot me in
the foot for this, but like I think you shoot yourself in the foot. I think
people shoot you in the face if they don't like you. Okay, both. I'll shoot
myself in the foot while other people are shooting me in the face. Um Elon
Musk is like in a traditional sense not
that good of a presenter because he'll pause for very long periods of time and
not because he's like pausing for impact but because he's pausing because he's
formulating what he's going to say. Um
what are you doing? This has been driving me crazy all show. It's reflective. Oh, there you go. Um and
some people insult him for this because they're like, "Oh, he's slow. He's taking too long." I and many other
people think it's because he's just trying to see what he's going to say
from a bunch of different angles so that he doesn't say something incorrectly.
Um, but like he's not a traditionally
great presenter, right? I like his presenting style because it feels more
authentic, but he's not like the showman that you got out of Steve Jobs. Yep. Um,
that doesn't matter at all. No, you should buy a Tesla car because you think
it's a great piece of technology at a fair price. I can't Some police
department is getting a whole bunch of Model S's really idling, right?
Oh, that's so much sense. They will last so much longer. Not to mention they're
they're like fuel efficiency and they're fast. Yep. That's very interesting. That
would be the first police department. I don't remember who is it in the dock. If
I was on my bike and I saw flashing lights, I would actually have to go, can
I outrun this? No, seriously. A Tesla Model S can do
almost the same 0 to 60 as my bike. The acceleration is obscene. Yeah. Um police
vehicle. Not that I condone running from the police. Uh at all to be very clear.
It's just Yeah, apparently it was the LAPD. Thank you, Nick. There we go.
Yeah, that's pretty sick. And P85Ds. So
that's like the dual motor like insane ones. Sick.
Nuts. Anyways, I'll All right. So, why don't we actually talk about the Apple event for a little bit here? So, the
iPhone 6S and 6S Plus, how unpredictable
was that? Are going to be released on September 25th. The 2-year contract
rates are $1.99 for a 16 gig phone. That
is such a huge Why do we even still have those? Thank you. That is the question
we should all be asking. Apple. The
first iPhone had a 16 gig model. That
was what 8 years ago. Are you freaking
kidding me? Like the base model should be that 64 gig one. It it's just it's
the the the Okay, the difference in price. So, let's let's go let's go let's
go way back in time. Oh, fun. Let's go to the way way back machine. Let's have
a look at ncx.com.
uh back in what would it what would it be like 2007? I have no idea. I can look
up the original launch date of the first iPhone. Yeah. So, let's go let's go back
to 2007 and let's see if we can find
something in their weekly special here. I'm going to I'll screen share with you guys. 2007 June 29th. Here we go. All
right. So, what kind of tech relics will we find? I love how the site is like the
same and the banner style is the same. Like this this is honestly probably
better than what we're currently dealing with. Uh no, this is still Tom. Tom was
doing the banners back then. No, I'm not saying the banner is better. I mean the general layout. This looks actually
easier to deal with. I have nothing to say about that. Okay. So, back then. So,
so okay. So, are we getting two gigs of RAM with the iPhone
6s? Can you find that out while I go ahead and look at some of this pricing?
So, back then 2 gigs of memory cost you
$283. Back then, a 24in widecreen cost
$890. Oh my. Um, but what I really want is a
320 Gigabyte hard drive. Is that an original G15? Yeah, that's the G15. If
it cost that much, I would buy it now. I would buy so many of them at 8925. So, a
320 gig hard drive costs
$130. And it looks like an
SSD, excuse me, doesn't even merit a
spot on the front page. Are you kidding me? Huh?
Okay. Well, we might actually have to go not quite as far back. Let's try let's
try August 2008, shall we? Or apparently
two gigs of RAM.
Uh, what? Apparently, it is two gigs. Okay, so they finally they finally given
us two gigs of RAM. All right, let's go ahead see if we can find an SSD here.
OCZ Game Extreme.
Jeez, I thought like the X25M or like
one of those cheapo stupid like when did all of that happen? Did that not happen
till much later? I So, is this just a
matter of Apple giving us far too much early on and now we don't appreciate the
generosity of their of their 16 gigs of onboard storage? No, let's only has one
gig. I I don't know. I just Googled it. It says that.
Yeah, I think there's still some uh I think there's still some debate. I don't
know if they've actually confirmed it. No, GSM Arena is saying two gigs of RAM.
I've seen a lot of rumors that it's that it's two gigs of RAM. So, I would uh I
would actually believe that. This is taking way longer than I had hoped.
There we go. Okay. So, in
200 n Wow. Eight. 200. No. What is this?
Damn it. Whatever. So, at this point in time, you could get 64 gigs of SSD
storage for $240. Since that
time, 20 $240. Can you can you run the
numbers on this? Since that time, I have no idea what I'm doing. Um, so, so, uh,
60. So, dollars, uh, gigs, gigs per dollar, dollars per gig. Dollars per
gig. So, 240 divided by 64. Yeah. Okay.
So, now you can buy a two terbte Samsung
drive. 75. All right. So, that's three
$3.75 a gig. All right. So, you can buy a two terbyte Samsung drive. You know,
let's look at the one tab. I think that's a better cost per gig. That's
about the same actually. So, uh $480
for 1,024 or 1,000, whatever. We're rough
numbers. Rough numbers here.
Two 37. No, you ran the numbers the
other way. What? It's 50 cents a gig.
It's not two. It's two. It's two gigs per dollar. Whatever the point is. So
three, what was it? 3.75. This is not a math show. Okay. To be honest, you told
me in that order. So it hasn't fallen. So I was looking for memory. It is 17th
the price today. Apple could literally be giving us seven
times the storage of the original iPhone
at the same price as they would have had to pay at that time. And I know that
doesn't factor in changing market conditions and blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. So let's say five
times 128 gigs should be baseline today.
64 gigs should be like that's the value model, but a premium device like an
iPhone should not even have a 16 gig
model. It's embarrassing. Uh, so what else do we
have to say about it? So, the 2 Gigabyte spec for memory on the 6S is and six is
based off of a Apple employee in a
Reddit comment. Oh, okay. So, basically
unsubstantiated. Yes. Got it. Okay. So, let's talk let's talk the rest of it.
So, you pay another hundred bucks, you get 64 gigs. At least they've done away
with the 32 gig model, although that 199 one should be 32 gigs, but I think we
all know the reason they're doing this is because they don't want you buying that one because 16 gigs really isn't
enough anymore when you get 128 gigs for another $100 over that. The 6S Plus is
basically $100 more across the board for the slightly bigger screen, and you get
some additional benefits. So, the 6S Plus, once again, is the only one to
feature optical image stabilization. So, the 6S does not have
that particular feature. Uh, they're both using the new 64bit or actually, I
don't think it is new, is it? Whatever. It's an A9 chip, not the A9 Plus that
we're going to see in the new iPad Pro. So, it's an A9 chip with an M9 motion
co-processor. Um, they finally shoot 4K
video. Finally. With that said, I don't
necessarily think that Apple's been behind the eightball on the whole 4K
video thing. Yeah, that's actually a problem. Is that
That's the neighbors.
Um, do you mind going and asking them like really nicely to turn it down a
bit? Yeah. You know what it is? They're in their boat. They're in their boat. I
saw them yesterday sitting in their They're way too baller. They're sitting
in the speedboat. Why don't they sit in a speedboat in the water? Why don't they
take the speedboat out? Yeah. I don't know. It's beautiful today. Um Um
So it seems okay now. Okay. Snoop Dogg
turned the beat down for us. Okay. So So
anyway, um sorry. So the six the uh the
the 6S Plus once again is the only one
that features optical image stabilization, which is kind of a bummer
for people with small hands. And they both now have 3D touch or force touch by
another name. Actually, this same Apple blogger, and I'm probably revealing too
much now. If that person is watching, which I'm sure they're not, um, they're
they're going to know who I'm talking about, but compared 3D Touch to
shortcuts on a
keyboard. No, it's a right click. Only
an Apple user would not recognize this as a right click. You access hidden
menus. Okay, that's brutal. That's not a keyboard shortcut. That's a That's a
right click. I'm sorry. It's kind of a arguably a mouse shortcut. I'm sorry
you've gone without right click for so many years. Welcome to
2015. Uh, what else do I have to say here? Uh, the FaceTime camera is 5
megapixels. There's a new color, rose gold. I will be doing an iPhone 6S
review. I have requested that Dbrand send me over the rose gold model. So, is
this definitely happening call this? It's not metal. So, I don't know. I
would call this like a copper. I'd call that like a copper color. Not rose
goldy. Yeah. Yeah, I'd call that copper. So, is rose gold more gold colored? Uh,
rose gold? No, it's pink. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's just a fancy name for pink. Yeah, I
want the pink one. Um, so the the last thing is they feature their Taptic
Engine now. So basically it's it's way
way better vibration and that's what enables them to do things like their 3D
touch. Uh then the shape of the iPhone. I really don't think you want to you
know you only got to get the one point. That's like So the iPad Pro is coming.
Uh 32 gigs is $7.99.
Wow. Rough. 128 gigs is $9.49 and the
128 gig with cellular data is over 1,000.
It features a 12.9 in retina display, although that is one high resolution 5.6
megapixel display. It features 10 hours of battery life, an 8 megapixel eyesight
camera. Although this is going to be a whole new level of of what what are they
called? Pad holes. Pad holes. Yeah. I mean, taking a photo with an iPad.
Walking around with a 13in device. Someone at Pax Prime that is basically
this. Okay.
Someone at PAX Prime wanted to take a selfie with me with an iPad and
apologized probably like five times. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And he was right to do
so. Right to do so. Um, it features
their third generation 64-bit A9X chip.
Uh, it's got AC wireless with MIMO blah blah blah blah blah blah. Touch ID is a
nice thing to have. The keyboard accessory. Yeah, the keyboard accessory
is straight out of Microsoft's playbook. Oh my goodness. And the amazing thing
with that is someone made a web comic. I retweeted this, so you can check that
out if you're interested, but someone made a web comic basically going uh like
people were hammering on uh Microsoft for their touch cover kind of thing. And
then I think the web comic said that
like, oh, you guys say it's stupid now, but you'll have it in three years. And I
think it's exactly three years later and they now have it. Here we go. Yeah. Here
we go. So, the uh the the credit here
goes to uh Joel
Watson. Here we go. So, we've got uh
Steve Balmer no longer in the picture. We call it the Surface. Boo. Your iPad
sucks. It's not an iPad. It's a Surface.
Suck my surface. The surface of my Well, that's the dword, but uh anyway, so he's
like, it's got a kickstand. Your iPad still sucks. And that this is so funny
is like WWDC 2015. So he's off by like
what? Six months. Yeah. We call it the Smart Cover Touch and we think you're
going to love it. You invented that? Yes, we did.
Fantreingastic. I love it. With that said, I'm not going to give Apple too
much crap about, you know, um I just
think the comic's funny. Yeah. copying copying the idea of uh you know folding
keyboard or whatever. It's not like these haven't existed for an awful long
time. No, no, no, no. I just thought the comic was funny. Yeah, they they've
they've kind of stolen crap before obviously, but to be fair, all of these
big companies have. Look at how Microsoft started. And Microsoft didn't
invent the idea of a lowprofile freaking
folding keyboard anyway. It's not like anyone can really take credit for that
at this point anyhow. Well, someone can, but it won't be Microsoft and it won't
be Apple. Um, it's just it's just funny that the that the timing is so great and
the reaction from people is so is so
funny and Microsoft doesn't seem to mind. They're going to be bringing the
full full Office support to the iPad Pro. And speaking of support for things
that Apple Yeah, I know. Uh, speaking of support for things that Apple has has
traditionally not supported, they're finally giving us a stylus. The pencil.
Yeah. So, it's going to have all the usual the usual stylus stuff, tilt
pressure. Um, it's $100, which is
that's actually pretty Wow, that is the Apple tax on a whole other level.
Um, but it really feels like this is
Apple in a nutshell. Many bloggers and
I've actually the sty the stylus was the one I'm not calling it a pencil. The
stylus is the one that a lot of people I think are missing the point of. The
stylus to me summarizes what Apple is in
a nutshell. And I've seen a lot of people focusing on the professional
applications of a tool like the Apple Pencil, their stylus, saying, "Okay,
well, this enables this turns the iPad Pro into a a truly professional tool."
To which I say, Codswall. It turns the
iPad the iPad Pro. What? Codswall.
That's a word. It's just Yeah, it is.
Yes. Okay. So, what it turns the iPad
Pro into is Apple's typical
MMO is convincing casuals that they're
professionals because it's not a professional tool. You know what a
professional tool is? Is the Waycom Windows tablet that is a professional
tool. You know what a professional tool is? sort of the Surface Pro 2 before
Microsoft did away with the proper digitizer in the screen. Those are
professional tools. Professional tools are ones that are able to run the full
version of Adobe's Creative Suite. And
the iPad Pro could have been a cool product, but it's running iOS. So
ultimately, it's a doodle pad for cool
kids. To be fair, Microsoft is full support for Office to the iPad Pro and
Adobe is going to be supporting some Typekit compatible apps, although it's
not clear what. It could be Illustrator.
So, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Because
I've called Apple products stupid before and I've been proven that people will
buy it or it's been I've been pro I was
going to say I've been proven wrong and I changed mids sentence because I still don't think I'm wrong.
So, I've been proven that uh like I I
still think the I This is This is kind
of funny because it's almost like we've all admitted now that the iPad was dumb.
The iPad 1 I called it dumb. A lot of people called it dumb. I called it and I
don't know if anyone else called it this, but I called it the uncarryable device because it's too big for a pocket
and too small to justify carrying around a backpack. If I'm going to carry a
backpack, I might as well put something useful in it like this, which can do
both. Exactly. Like sometimes and not that convertibles existed at the time,
but that didn't change the fact that they were getting there. It didn't
change the fact that the iPad 1 was the uncarryable device. It's the device that
makes no sense. There's nowhere to put it if I'm not holding it. And we've all
acknowledged this now. The iPad Mini is here. I never touch my fullsize iPad 2
anymore. Not because Apple hasn't done a great job of supporting it. Not because
it doesn't still run nice and snappy and run all the apps I need, but because
it's just just big and bulky and stupid. If I want something this big, I'll get a
laptop. Yeah. Not to mention that iPad full sizes are so expensive that you
might as well pick up something with a keyboard on it. I I used your iPad 2 for
a long time and it was great. But the only reason why it was great was because
I gave my laptop to my dad and point two
is it was a glorified Hearthstone machine. That was it. The only thing I
did on it was play Hearstone. So, if you want to pay like a gratuitous amount of
money to play Hearthstone, I mean, go ahead. Uh, there was some other stuff.
Uh, Apple Watch and Watch OS. Apple is claiming an incredible 97% customer
satisfaction. Did they factor me in? Was I included in the survey? Maybe you were
the entire 3% didn't survey that many people. I I straight up I straight up
spent what was it like $800 or whatever on an Apple Watch to do my review. If
you guys think for a second that if I
spend money on a review
device and I like it, if you think I'm not going to keep using it, you got
another thing coming. That thing sits on a shelf in a box because not I nor
anyone else at Linus Media Group has expressed any interest in using it on a
day-to-day basis. It's that bad. And I even wear a smartwatch. Ed
wears a smartwatch. Do we have any iPhone users though? Yes,
Dennis. But then Dennis is Maybe Dennis doesn't know what it is. Dennis is too
shy. Where's Dennis? Oh, poor Dennis. Uh, what else we got here? There's a new
Apple TV or something. People still watch TV. Uh, one kind. But you can
watch Netflix through it, right? But do you need to spend 15? Hold on. Hold on.
Siri is integrated with it and you can search Netflix with Siri, which Android
TV cannot do. Does it even support 4K yet? I don't know.
Question. I have no idea. Not that it actually matters. You can
buy things through it. Um specs, no 4K
video streaming support for upcoming. That's a rumor. Okay, so here's the
thing. Yes, it's a Netflix box, which is great. Siri support, A+ for that. But
how much is a Shield console? Same price, I think. Yeah, I think it's
$1.99. Buy now. Let's Let's look this
up. I can't remember. You reviewed that. You're supposed to know. Yeah, $1.99 for a Shield console. I said the same price.
I think it comes with a game controller.
It streams at 4K. It has all this stuff
that Apple is claiming is amazing, like voice control. It comes with a sleek
little aluminum remote. And it's a pretty sexy looking piece of hardware, I
think. Uh so, and it does stream at 4K, which is
kind of cool. and it has support for NVIDIA game stream if you're into that
kind of thing. And I know that not everyone plays games, but why get less
if you don't have to? That was the other thing is that now now I'm really
narrowing down what what blogger I was reading is like he figured the Apple or
the the Apple TV refresh was the most amazing thing from the event. And I was
like, "Are you for real, bro?" He's like, "Yeah, it's a whole new way of
experiencing live events, some baseball demonstration or something like
Okay, maybe I'm a Philistine, but I
personally didn't think that the baseball game experience was bad before.
I thought it was just fine. And the the thing that I don't understand is like,
okay, I didn't see this part of the presentation. So, I missed it, too. I
don't know what the baseball example was, but if it was like Twitter integration and stuff, I don't want to
tweet on my TV. I'm going to have my phone in my pocket. I'll just tweet
there. Does that make me old? I don't know.
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it wasn't me. So, it must have been John. No. What? To be wife. Who else is
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what? How do you not know this? I don't know this. Wow. Rough.
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I just opened mine and was going to do it like properly. Oh, do I have one,
too? No, I said my knife. Oh, I thought you meant Oh, did they not send us both
a box? That's okay. We can open it. I think so. Give me a second. It sounds
like Dennis is literally dying. Can I see your knife? Yes. That's nice. I like
it. Thank you. Nice drop. Oh, really? Yeah. Huh. CRKT, not cricket.
Dennis, what are you doing? Oh, wow. Can
you stop lifting him? Is it after? No.
Is it Are you still live? Yeah, we're still live.
No. Put him down. It's a dragon ball. Oh
god. your camera. So, in OneUp Box, you don't get a Dennis, unfortunately. Yeah, there
will be no Dennis's included in your OneUp box. What else we got in here?
So, the theme this week is I think it's or this month is pixels.
Oh my goodness. Oh, sick. There's like an adorable Wolverine. I think this week
I think this month is combat. Oh, maybe that's Oops. Did I I already fixed it.
Um, this month is combat. Oh, check out the adorable Wolverine. Look, his head
moves. It's a Pokeball wristband. He can do that.
Wow. I actually am the only one who works here who wears wristbands. Oh,
no. It's okay. You can have it. It's a medium shirt. Oh, no. Okay, I shouldn't
say that. I'm going to take it. Probably. Oh, no way. What you got,
Brandon? You're right here. Okay, so Brandon's going to snipe this shirt.
Like 100% Brandon's going to snipe this shirt. No way. There's Link and there's
Splatoon. That's what that's from. It's a squid from Splatoon. Sick. So
Brandon's going to snipe the crap out of that. That's actually not bad. Unless
All right, take it, Brandon. I I got the I got the Pokemon thing. What else is in
here? I didn't see this yet. There's like a little panda Deadpool, which is
like a patch which you can iron onto something. Oh, and then there's a pin
that says you collected the August. Ah, sorry. The theme was combat. There you
go. Smash Brothers sticker. Nice. That's
cool. This is pretty sick. I like Nintendo stuff, so me over. This is
great. It's a key for all the things. Catch them all.
Sweatband. Wear it to your battles to ensure victory. Which like with the new
Pokemon app coming out. Have you seen that? The Oh, yes. That's cool. Okay, so
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awesome. That's actually pretty sick. I love this
and it fits so well. There we go. Endorsement. Endorsement. Yeah,
according to the guidelines, we have to we have to disclose that we were given a
free oneup box and they are a sponsor of the show. So, but that doesn't change
how cool this poker You know what? I'm going to let you have it because because
I actually have the world's most rocking wristbands already. I have the uh very
limited edition razor ones that came
that came in the like the presson kit
for some like exclusive like high-end
product. So I think there's probably maybe a couple dozen of them that exist
on Earth and I have a matching pair of them. So, I I'll keep rocking those. And
not only that, but I sweat so copiously that anything with white on it will be
yellow within like 5 minutes of me on a
badminton court. That's awesome. Did you
go over all the stuff about the box? Um, what about the box? Head over to oneup.
No. Yeah. Yeah, I covered that. Okay, so Pokémon Go announced for iOS and
Android. This was posted by Skywake on the forum. This looks absolutely
bananas. And our source for this is going to be our good friends over at
Technobuffalo. Excuse me. Wow. Pokemon Go has been
announced by the Pokemon Company and Nintendo. It's a mobile title that's
being developed by Niantic, separate from Google, by the way. Now, the same
folks that made Ingress, a game of similar ilk. This sounds bananas. Okay.
So, so there is a dedicated wearable
accessory. Okay. that I think it buzzes
when there's Pokemon nearby as you're out in the regular world. Okay, it's a
smartphone game that you actually play
by going outside and catching Pokemon. I
love Ingress, but one of my big complaints about Ingress is like where I
live, it's basically not playable
because you need to have like an interesting landmark and a suburban
house isn't an interesting landmark. So
there's none of them. So it like if I lived in Vancouver, it would be great.
There's stuff all over the place. That's cool. I could play all the time. I love Ingress. It would be super awesome. I
would literally go out just to play Ingress. And I have gone down to
Vancouver just to play Ingress before cuz I really like the
game. This means they're in the wild. So
I could go hike somewhere and find Pokémon. I could just walk around my
city and find Pokémon and possibly very rare Pokémon. Because while hiking is a
popular pastime, I think the ven diagram
overlap between people who hike as a pastime and people who play real world
Pokémon is probably fairly small. Pro
hopefully cuz I want to get them rares. So hopefully this looks freaking I'm
going to go ham on this. Going to be ridiculous. You have no My brother sent
me this and I was like I'm done. I know every idea. You I have all the ideas. I
have all the What was the thing that I was in your head about earlier this week? Right. Right. He he shows me this
awesome Aperture Science hoodie, like rain jacket, like really nice jacket
that he bought um after seeing them at PAX. And uh and it's like blah. I'm
like, "How much did you pay for it?" "80 bucks."
No, no, no, no, no, no. It was more than
$80. And I'm like, "Yeah, but you can't wear your Assassin's Creed stuff anymore
anyway." And he's like, "I literally threw it
out. All my Assassin's Creed stuff is gone." And he had really nice Assassin's
Creed stuff. I did. I kept I kept spec I
kept the Assassin's Creed 4 one. Okay. I kept that one cuz that was a good That
was the one your mom got for you, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And like my mom got me
a hoodie uh a hoodie for the release of Assassin's Creed 3. So unfortunately for
her poor soul, she didn't know that Assassin's Creed 3 was one of the worst
games that's ever been made in my opinion, which is probably ouch, a
little rough, but I hate that game. Um, with a passion, as if you can't tell.
Um, and like I thought it was going to be great. I I bought the collector's
edition and everything, which also doesn't exist in my house anymore. Um,
it's the only collector's edition I've ever thrown away. Wow. I didn't want
anyone else to own it. Wow.
Wow. Anyway, a couple more details about
Pokemon Go. It'll be released in 2016 and uh so the the optional device, this
is so cool, will be connected to your smartphone using Bluetooth and will flash its LED and vibrate to notify
players about nearby Pokemon. Now, so cool. Imagine this augmented reality
real world Pokemon. I I tweeted that out and everyone was like,
"Holy." Yeah, cuz the trailer they like they have Pokeballs and they're throwing
them and like the Pokemon are there and stuff and like this obviously isn't going to be how but eventually maybe. Uh
what else we got here? Jurassic World becoming a reality except totally not
Jurassic but actually the and super
won't be called Jurassic World at all at all because literally has nothing to do
with it. Sure, it' be all the trademark issues. Um but anyway, scientists are
looking to clone mammoths. You know what's funny? I think this is a picture
from um a Vancouver mammoth exhibit.
Where is this? Is this in Victoria? Yeah, there it is. Willy Woolly Mammoth
from the Royal BC Museum in Victoria. That's funny. I did retain something
from that grade seven class trip.
That's awesome. That is hilarious.
Um yeah, that wasn't my mom's fault. She
asked me what I might want for that Christmas and I said that thing and she
got it. Are you back on that topic in
the chat or like blah blah blah. But you should probably introduce what the crap
you're talking about. Anyways, damn it, Luke. How many times have you co-hosted
this show? You were talking about the Oh, yeah. That's true. Cuz I guess the
archive viewers wouldn't see it. Anyways, um I guess the actual vast
majority of the viewers at the show, like a huge percentage. Anyways, um they
there's a Russian team uh that has a
woolly mammoth sample named Yuka, which is a 39,000 lb woolly mammoth in their
possession. And they're going to use that um cross-link DNA with a modern
elephant. Yeah. um to give birth to an
animal that resembles a mammoth. So, it
won't actually be a mammoth. Now, to be clear, this is a technique that has been
somewhat successful. Zebra fish and jellyfish have already been successfully
cross- linked to make glowing fish, but these are much simpler creatures, much
smaller creatures, and um everything is
more difficult with a mammal. An elephant giving birth to a mammoth and
just being like, "What?" Yeah.
Oh, because they're pretty smart. What just happened to my my birth hole?
Uh, speaking of birth holes, Amazon is
giving birth to a $50 tablet now that they've given up on
selling you a more expensive device that exists solely for the purpose of driving
you to buy Amazon products and services. Just absurd. So, they have finally
figured out if we're going to cram
Amazon up everyone's birth hole with these devices, we better be basically
giving them away. Thank you, Amazon, for finally cluing in
to that. Yes. U So, this new device will have a 6-in screen and will be half the
price of the cheapest Fire tablet. It is
intended to be a simple and effectively disposable device for straightforward
tasks like streaming video at home and shopping on
Amazon.com. At least they're being honest. Um, yeah. I mean, the thing
about this is that this can only really be successful if it's competitive with
the other like $50 7in class tablets
that already exist um from like cheapo
brands like RCA. You know what's really funny is uh this was an example from the
Wall Street Journal article here uh including brands unfamiliar to many
Americans like RCA. Yeah. What is not familiar about RCA? The other ones.
Sure. Yeah. Like uh Fanatic and Aries,
but RC RCA must be the best known brand
that has never managed to make the transition to becoming somewhat premium.
They always have been and seemingly always will be cheap junk.
Like seriously, that's their thing. No, look at brands like Vizio where they
came on the market as like we're the cheapest thing and now like there's
legit like premium really good Visio products. Look at look at
Samsung. Samsung was cheap crap at the beginning. Yeah. In fact, pretty much
every time they expand into a new category, Samsung is cheap crap all over
again until they figure it out and get better at it. It's fine. Yeah. I I mean,
there's got to be countless other examples like um someone like everything
has RCA. Yeah. Like how many people Oh,
no. That's not what we're talking about. No, no. RCA, the brand that made like
really bad CD WMAN wannabes. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, man. They were awful. Mhm.
Maybe they're just not old enough to remember RCA.
That could be a thing cuz like Radio Shack and stuff doesn't really Yeah,
poor Radio Shack anymore. Uh, what else do we have? Oh, Nintendo's going after
speed runners. Nintendo, this is so trash. Can you be more cool? And like
brutalizing speedrunners. Ramata or
something like that is the OP on the forum. And the article here is from uh
from geeknack.com.
But this is just Okay, so the guy the
why Nintendo was mad is because the dude well why they were this mad was because
the dude wasn't just straight up playing. Uh what was going on was their
reasoning. Where is it? Sorry. The reasoning was he was using tool assisted
hacks or hacked ROMs of Super Mario. Um
and they slammed him with multiple copyright strikes. They took off I think
80% of his content was removed from YouTube. Basically they super wrecked
his channel and left a mark with the copyright strikes and it's Pangia Panga
by the way. So uh most famous probably for that impossible level. Um like this
guy did some like really cool
stuff. And yes, Nintendo has established
that it is illegal to use a ROM even if you own a legitimate copy of the game.
But come on, just don't be a jerk about
it. Yeah, this is pretty brutal.
There's no reason to do that. The letter that they wrote to him, they contacted
him directly and wrote a letter about what they were doing is just it it made
my stomach turn just reading it. Um,
I'll go ahead and I'll quote some of it. As the owner of the copyright in the
games Mario Kart 8, Super Mario World, and Pokemon, Nintendo has the exclusive
right to perform the games publicly or to make derivative works based on the
games. By making a derivative work using Nintendo's intellectual property and
then displaying Nintendo's intellectual property on your YouTube channel, you
have violated Nintendo's exclusive rights. Nintendo understands that its
fans are the reason for its success. Excuse me. Do you? No, you don't. Do you
actually? No, cuz I don't think you do. I don't think understand means what you
think it means. I don't think fans means
what you think it means. This would be this would we actually were talking to
Vessel recently about what's happening
with some of our content getting pulled and then posted onto YouTube during our
exclusivity period and stuff like that. And they they kind of asked us, "Well,
do you want to go with an automated system so that you guys are claiming
monetization or or pulling down content that features your videos?" I said, "No,
of course not." So much because there's
a lot of really cool derivative works based on our videos on YouTube. I love
it when people put together like montages and stuff. Yeah. Like like that
great video of the Shiaabuff green screen of him saying good just do it and
me saying don't do it. Do you have any idea how much it warms my heart to see
people taking what we've created and and
turning it into something cool? Like obviously if someone creates something,
you know, grossly offensive or illegal
or whatever else, we're not going to be cool with that.
But I'm just going to see if I can find that video because it's so funny.
Um ah dang it. I can't find What was What
was it called? Was it called R9 Fury or something? Lionus. Ah, I wish I could
find it. Anyway, it was it was really funny. Um and I don't remember where I
was going with that anymore. I watched Twitch chat. Yeah. So, as long as they're not doing something totally
inappropriate, we love that kind of stuff because that's what that's how you
guys can communicate back to us in the same medium that we used to communicate
to you. This is this is the language we're speaking. So, it's just sorry I'll I'll
read more of the letter, but it's just going to make me more upset as I go. And
oh, this kills me. They're the reason for its success and we are always happy
to see people share their passion for Nintendo's games. No, you're not. Well,
maybe you could express your happiness in a way that's not legal action against
someone. Seriously, once. At the same time,
Nintendo's intellectual property constitutes its most valuable assets,
and the unauthorized use of these assets jeopardizes Nintendo's rights. Because
of this, we ask that you please remove the video in question, except that they
didn't ask. They just had it removed. and confirm that you will not post any
videos using unauthorized software or copies of games, distribute or continue
work on the modification or take any other steps that would infringe
Nintendo's rights. They referred them to the Nintendo's creators program, which
is gross, by the way, and ridiculous, through which Nintendo takes a cut
listed as 30% for channels and 40% for per for videos of ad revenues generated
by features video videos featuring Nintendo games if he wanted to continue
his fan engagement on YouTube. They charge their fans to engage with them.
That's disgusting.
Really, really, really, really brutal. Especially cuz like how much money are
they making off of Super Mario World? And I mean like that one game. And how
many people have the technical savvy and
knowhow to rip into ROMs and and create
new speedrunning paths or or do some of the really entertaining stuff to watch
that millions of people are watching and
going, "Oh, cool. I remember that game." And dusting off their Nintendo. A lot of
speedrunning stuff is like for charity and stuff and it's just for
entertainment. Games done quick. Like isn't that whole thing a charity event?
Yeah. Yeah, Taran said from the background, Games DoneQuick is a charity event. Like, what are you guys doing?
Don't go after a charity event. So,
yeah, basically Nintendo, that was a total [ __ ] move, period. And I think
that pretty much does it for the show. Thanks for watching, guys. And, uh, wow,
we should really try to end on a happy note because I'm like super mad right
now. Um, what do you think about Mondo
Burrito? I actually truly enjoy Mondo Burrito. I
could use a Mondo Burrito right now. I'm really hungry. Yeah, me too. Positive
note. Hunger or something. I tried. See you guys next
week. Didn't work. Same bat time. Same bat channel.
The W show. We tried. You have to do the intro thing. There you go. Almost.
Oh. Uh, that's
awkward. Yeah.