{"video_id":"oB_CUQU5Z68","title":"PNY & MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1GB SLI Video Review Linus Tech Tips","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2011-05-08T14:53:29Z","duration_s":347,"segments":[{"start_s":0.84,"end_s":6.64,"text":"so this video is meant to be a few things first of all it is meant to be a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.319,"end_s":12.32,"text":"somewhat of a review of the PNY GeForce gts450 that I did unbox a little while","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.36,"end_s":20.359,"text":"back okay it is also meant to be a look at SLI performance with the PNY","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.16,"end_s":22.4,"text":"gts450 as well as the MSI Cyclone GTS","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.359,"end_s":25.96,"text":"450 now these are both very similar cards I'm going to stop holding up the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.76,"end_s":30.32,"text":"box and instead I'm actually going to hold 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difference is the cooler we did a cooler comparison but remember these cards will work just fine in SLI mode so that's what we were able to Benchmark them in so I want you to have a look at my test bench here and I'm just going to show you what I was using for this particular little video review I've got a core i7 860 running at 3.8 GHz down there and that is with hyperthreading on all right I've got uh 4 gigs of Kingston hyperx H2O RAM don't even bother trying to look at that it's way in the back it looks like this I have a third stick here okay so that's what that looks like all right then we've got nus motherboard which is both SLI and Crossfire compatible which was necessary for the testing today and this is all running off an ocz vertex series SSD all right so let's have a look at all the cards that we ran with today you can see we've got the GTX 480 in there as a reference point okay we've got the 58 70 as a reference point as well so the whole point today was to see how does two mid-range or really value performance cards like the 450 or the 5770 you can see we've tested with a single as well as with dual 57 70s as well how does two uh more mid-range cards compare to a single high-end card from each vendor and then how does the NVIDIA offering compare to the ATI offering I also threw in the GTX 460 Cyclone Edition because I did have it on hand and it's such a popular card right now I figured okay well that'll be a good reference point for people as well so stay tuned I'm going to do boring Benchmark graphs and before then I'm going to show you all the settings I was using in the games that we did test one of the games we tested obviously crisis is still a benchmark for optimal system performance under incredible load if it can run crisis really well then typically it can run most games fairly well although that is changing there are some fairly demanding games coming out these days we're running at 1680 X 1050 which is a perfectly reasonable resolution for our mainstream level cards but what you'll discover when we show you the graphics benchmarks The Benchmark numbers is that some of the higher-end cards do start to get CPU bottlenecked at that resolution and we don't see scaling even with more impressive graphics cards again once again this is mainstream cards that we're mostly having a look at so I'm using all of the medium presets for ch PR here's the settings we used for Mafia 2 but I do want you to note one thing the Apex physics engine here is off because I do have a Radeon card on the platform right now but I did run it two separate ways for all the NVIDIA cards I ran it once with Apex physics on high and then once with it off so the only time I'm going to compare against Radeon cards is with physx off but it should be noted that this game does have substantial uh gameplay innov ations that rely on physx that really you're not getting the ideal experience from unless you have physx on Batman Arkham Asylum yeah I know this game's not that new but frankly I don't care I really enjoyed it so I'm going to go ahead and Benchmark it also it serves as a reference point as uh an unreal three engine game so that allows us to find out how these cards will compare against each other in a pretty wide variety of games so these are the settings that we did use and you can see once again here I have Hardware accelerated physics off but I had it set to high with the supported NVIDIA cards and so what I'll do is I'll show you again two points of comparison one with physx off with all of the cards in the mix and then one with high with only the NVIDIA cards so in conclusion uh that was my second video review and I had so many people requesting it I couldn't help but do more I guess there's not really too much to say I mean you've seen the numbers already and really the prices haven't really haven't settled enough for the GTS 450 series cards to really make a clear recommendation in terms of FPS per dollar or some kind of a Hardline measurement but what we can see is that the cards do scale quite well in SLI they do perform quite well for their price point and if you want to check it out here I just hope you've all enjoyed this review of the PNY gts450 as well as the SLI running review I mean I guess it's uh it's more of a review of both of these cards than only one but I hope you've enjoyed it and I also wanted to make a special note here in the conclusion that I totally forgot about before I am running the absolute latest driver revision for all of these cards so that means the latest 260 download from the NVIDIA website as well as Catalyst 10.9 for all of the at cards so these are pretty much the most upto-date numbers that you can get for any of these cards don't forget to subscribe to lineus Tech tips and I hope you've enjoyed our video review"}