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when valve invited me down to their headquarters for a preview of the steam

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deck they not only refused to allow me to open it but they wouldn't tell me

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anything about the internal configuration other than what i was able

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to ascertain for myself using a thermal camera well that all changes today valve

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published a do as we say not as we do

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tear down of the steam deck and i haven't intentionally avoided looking at

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it all day and i'm going to be watching it together with my co-host Anthony to

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see what we're going to learn and what still

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remains to be seen and the whole thing is sponsored by ifixit is your battery

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not lasting as long as it used to looking for a new project i fix it's got

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you covered stay tuned to the end of this video to learn more about their

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battery replacement kits

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okay we ready let's do it hi

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this is a video about opening up a steam deck to replace one or more of the

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components inside it i love the glove specifically we're going to cover the thumb sticks and very interesting the

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thumbnail says don't do this and the video opens with

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here's how to do this well they gotta cover their butts right they do but i

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gotta say i absolutely respect that valve is directly addressing what gamers

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have been asking about it because we all know the biggest issues with handheld

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consoles which excuse me with handheld consoles that

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are to be unnamed is joystick drift and for me personally if i'm investing this

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kind of money into a handheld device knowing that it can be quickly and

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easily repaired is a big deal the SSD well we'll see how quick and we'll see

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how easy it is this is a how-to video but in another way it's a why you really

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shouldn't do this that's because even though it's your pc

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or will be once you've received your steam deck and you have every right to open it up

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and do what you want wow you have every right to open up and do it wow i've only

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ever heard that from fairphone what a strong

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also framework but what a strong

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statement maybe system 76 what a strong statement for a device manufacturer to

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make when you buy it it belongs to you how is that controversial

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and yet here we are blown away by it it's 20 21. valve really don't recommend

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that you ever open it up the steam deck is a very tightly designed system and

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the parts are okay i take issue with that don't recommend that you ever open

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it up because that's going to suck in some dust you're going to want to clean that out maybe some compressed air will

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do it but you'll probably want to clean out the whole thing inside and the thing

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is most people are not going to be opening this thing for fun they're going to be opening it because there is an

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actual need to do it whether it's to replace a thermal compound or whether

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it's to clean it or whether it's to replace a defective component that's why

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people are going to open it i mean i could see myself opening it as SSD

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capacities get dramatically larger and you can get these tiny little what is it

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a 30 millimeter unit they've got in there 40. i think it's 20

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i guess we'll see i'm not entirely sure i saw it briefly there yeah we'll we'll

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see they're not widely available in the consumer market right now but they may

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be coming but the highest cap SSD that you can get your steam deck with today

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is one terabyte and we know we're going to get bigger ssds in this form factor

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in the future you might wait do they have a one terabyte model i thought it was 64 256 and 512.

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m.2 2230 SSD it is 512. wait technically shows steam

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deck 64 Gigabyte to be upgradeable to one terabyte of storage for less than

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the official 512 Gigabyte version however and then it goes on to say other

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things here we go but there is a one terabyte m.2 2230. kiosks makes one but

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i think it's oem only apparently there is a dell that you can get for 200

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canadian revenues on dell.com i mean the performance of

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this thing who knows it's probably the qlc with no dram cash so like yeah it's

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more than enough for the steam deck given that it can apparently run on emmc

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and memory card like microsd cards yeah and they told me when i was down there

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that they couldn't tell me which of the games on my unit were installed on the

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internal SSD versus the microsd card but they that i probably wouldn't be able to

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tell and i couldn't they've definitely done some optimization there

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so they aren't really designed to be user swappable

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opening up and replacing parts might mess things up like profoundly yeah for

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example if you damage the battery the whole thing could catch fire later which

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would be bad yes but there's entire hobbyist

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industries that use these batteries i mean not just

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exposed but in moving mechanical devices

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that literally fly through the air i mean these are these are the same kinds

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of cells that you would strap to a drone

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ripping around at 100 kilometers an hour so yes it's risky and you do need to be

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careful with them but also if consumers can handle that i think they can

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probably manage to not puncture this thing opening up their steam deck so be

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forewarned and leave this kind of thing to professionals unless you really feel

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like taking big risks with your property and with your life which could end if

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what okay i mean a fire could kill you if it

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caught fire in your pants yeah if it caught fire anywhere while you're

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sleeping you could die oh yeah i mean this is this is fair and this is the

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kind of device that would be very likely to be stored in your backpack yeah you

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know in some kind of combustible material yeah like imagine you're on the

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highway on your motorcycle with that in your backpack and it blows up so you

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know what i'm a back valve on this don't screw around with it if you don't know

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what you're doing but also this is not like opening up a pc power supply where

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literally a slip of the hand is the difference between you're alive and

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you're dead if you do this wrong just saying

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also the warranty doesn't cover any damage that you do fair enough however

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they didn't say that the warranty doesn't cover the device if you don't

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damage it act of opening it up voids the warranty

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yeah so if the act of opening it up doesn't void the warranty that's very

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good on valve but we'll find out there was a however here before i paused it

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having said all that we also wanted to make this video to simply show you

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what's inside the steam deck taking things apart and putting them

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back together is cool especially powerful handheld gaming computers that

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last part is a really mixed message yeah they spent a minute telling us not to do

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this and then they were like but it's cool i think i get it i think they're

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trying to be like edgy but it really does actually undermine some of the

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legitimate safety warnings that they gave us a little bit yeah please note

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the screws that secure the housing are what's called self-tapping screws and

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they're embedded in plastic bosses they can be removed and reinstalled but it's

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much easier to strip or over torque screws of this type compared to standard

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ones so be aware that they're very sensitive and either the screws or the

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housing can be damaged that's a really good point and i did notice that they

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used two different lengths of screws here so you're going to want to keep

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careful track of which ones went where you don't want one poking through the

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front of your steam deck when you put it back together and i mean for that matter though

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couldn't they have used like uh metal sunk into plastic to prevent this

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kind of self-tapping issue they could have it would have increased

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cost they probably would have had to press fit some kind of threaded inset

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yeah and that not only adds the cost of

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the metal pieces which is fairly negligible but it adds the labor

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of putting those in that compared to just putting a

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self-tapper into a molded piece of plastic very different ball game and given how

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aggressive they've gotten on the price i don't even begrudge them something

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like that it really isn't intended to be taken apart i say fair play valve yeah

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okay that makes sense to me as we've gotten more into manufacturing products

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for ourselves i've gained a lot more understanding and respect for the

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difficulty that manufacturers go through to make things actually

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make any sense at all from a cost perspective

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it does help prevent damage a torque wrench okay now hold on a second you

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don't need a torque wrench to avoid stripping a self-tapper in plastic you

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just need to your fingers are the only torque wrench you really need you go until two fingers

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can't get it in anymore and that's it at that point it's not just gonna fall

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apart it's in there enough and you're not gonna overdo it um these screws seem

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to be sunken into the plastic though so you'll probably need something maybe

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three fingers then if you can't tell then

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don't take it apart opening the case immediately weaknesses

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notice how many times the host has straightened those screwdrivers above

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the steam deck yeah and they're still cracking is that a joke

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are they meaning and makes the product less drop resistant there's no way to avoid this

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so just know that the structural integrity of your deck will be lessened

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somewhat by doing any of this interesting static electricity can

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easily break your steam deck permanently actually it's harder than you'd think

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yeah it's it's okay so it probably won't break it permanently in a fundamental

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way but it might cause things like oh well

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now voltage regulation isn't quite what it used to be and you're not going to turbo as high and you might lose

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performance kind of thing or just might not do anything like we saw in our video

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with electroboom okay

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here it is that's it backs off this is it he did show taking

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the back off that's um that's not very um satisfying yeah i was expecting a

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reveal shot i guess what that tells us is there's no ribbon cables attached to

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the backing or anything like that probably if the if their goal is to show

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that they're taking this apart and you can take it apart the other thing is too

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one of the joysticks is missing oh wait yeah so this is pretty far in they

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pulled the oh no you can see the daughter board for it in the top of the frame yeah i think that's it

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it's packed tight it is cooler there's all kinds of boards

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cooler right dead center yep i see what appears to be

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actually no i'm a little confused through the right hand what are we

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looking at there it kind of looks like a grill or something but it can't be because that's the front of the unit oh

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is it speaker chrome that might be a speaker

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yeah cause i think we're seeing the table below it so where's the speaker

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then is it just below his hand or hold on move it a little bit spark jumps from

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you to one of the integrated circuits on the board it'll probably fry some of the

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parts forever i mean yes but also if you're unfamiliar wait what

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with preventing malaria static discharge you should probably stop doing this and

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turn it over to a pro yes yeah that is right yeah but why

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didn't they just shoot a quick pick up man why like this the production values

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on this video i'm sending an email to my valve rep because

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this is the kind of thing that would have been completely preventable

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if they had just worked with us on this maybe they wanted it to look really

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amateurish so like anybody can get into it and anybody can do it valve is known

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for doing things for a reason first remove these four screws

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wait we just did that we just did that they're literally out

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so start keeping your screws organized to help you okay it comes time to

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reassemble everything okay this is good advice after the screws are out you just

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need to pry the case there we go yeah yeah try not to break what is that do

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they have a special jig for assembling these things is that what i was looking

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at oh oh that's cool that is so cool so it

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doesn't put any pressure on the screen you don't scratch the screen it doesn't

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put any pressure on the joysticks yeah it keeps it nice and flat flush with the

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table i like it yeah your fingernail that hurts

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okay there here it is our first unobstructed

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look so that was a battery a bit of writing on the battery that we were

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seeing got it look at all the ribbon cables and daughter boards

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so many pcbs this is some pcb next level

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pcb tetris right here i'm surprised because given how big it is compared to

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the a neo which didn't need this many daughter

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boards if i recall correctly i would have thought it would have a bit

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more of a kind of contiguous internal layout but then valve also did

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squeeze in more i o or okay i shouldn't say more i o the

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aneo has like dual USB-C ports but but more buttons which take up a huge amount

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of internal space the other thing is that could be good for repairability

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because then you could just get a module to replace out if like one of the

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buttons was decided like there was a broken trace or something that's true

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which may not be a thing that'll happen often but if you drop this thing a lot of

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things can go wrong it looks like a combination some kind of

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heat shield slash emi shield that's over top of the CPU or i guess i should call

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it an apu that's going to help keep skin

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temperature down on the back of the device you actually have to do that for

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regulatory reasons i wonder if that's also providing an air path for that fan

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because the uh the intake and the exhaust are up there

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on that on that entire plane i think note that this video shows

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pre-production hardware and there will be some differences between what you see

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here and the steam deck that you own

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this is the battery points to the stairs

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this is the battery okay before proceeding it's important to disconnect

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it do that by unplugging these wires here disconnect it with okay the first

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component we're going to replace is the thumb stick this part is easy to remove oh wow this

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that was very jarring yeah he didn't actually show well we see it here

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there's three screws maybe we're gonna go back in time be aware that the whole

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assembly is custom the stick the board and the cap

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replacing these will require matching the custom parts exactly stay tuned in

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the coming months for a source for replacement parts thumbsticks ssds and

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possibly more what

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we're in sync here but i mean i think that reflects how

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strongly we agree that this is a good guy move

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that shouldn't be a good guy move but it is

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valve should not stand out in the industry for providing easy access to

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resources and replacement components and

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yet here they are a multi-billion dollar corporation that

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doesn't have to give to us about what you think because you'll

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buy it anyway and they're doing it well the other thing is too like these parts

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if they manufacture more of them so they have spares and they can sell those

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spares that's going to drive down the cost due to economy of scale

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it'll be a little bit more in terms of logistics yes but it's

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it should probably just work out and you get good guy points because nobody else

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is doing this for some reason okay

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lift this left there the clothes are back on unplugged

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they did it they went back in time again these are much better instructions for

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how to remove this ribbon cable than what they provided for removing the

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battery connector which by the way is connected again well here

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remove these three screws and then take the stick assembly out to

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be clear i don't want to hate on the host here no it's just an amateur video

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that's all well okay be nice no i'm sorry i'm i'm that's what i mean

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that's no that's not what i mean what i mean is that it's it's intentionally

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designed like from the perspective of somebody who's just like hey i'm going to show

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you how to take this apart now here's how it goes

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not like welcome to the valve steam deck disassembly

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more like light light-hearted like casual tone

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yeah yeah okay i thought you were calling them amateurs no

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amateur means for the love of okay all right all right that's it

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now just reverse all that to put another one back in

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let's move on to the SSD we don't recommend replacing the

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included drive yeah what we do recommend for increasing your storage capacity is

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the handy microsd card slot so much easier and plenty fast that's fair and

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there's already like cad files floating around in various

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subreddits of people designing like external usbc storage packs that would

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like clip on the back and plug into the usbc port there's gonna be lots of

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options to expand your storage if it was me man

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i'd upgrade the internal SSD but i'm also just

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a big nerd and i can afford to break my steam deck that's the question you have

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to ask yourself i'm not sure if they mentioned in this video but i heard

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somebody saying that there's actually like an emi reason for why

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you shouldn't replace that SSD um just vaguely when i saw it going

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through on my twitter feed okay so let's have a look maybe it has a custom shield

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on it or something please note before attempting

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an SSD replacement an off-the-shelf SSD could cause problems okay one power

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consumption yep an off-the-shelf SSD can draw more power than the original drive

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which could cause overheating and reduce battery life two electromagnetic

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interference yeah our SSD is located very close to our wireless module and

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was specifically chosen and tested to not interfere with wi-fi and bluetooth

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an off-the-shelf SSD might have a different emissions pattern and could

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compromise wireless performance okay three mechanical that's fair we place

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components on the motherboard underneath the SSD and a different one might

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mechanically interfere with these components so the main reason that might happen is

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if you have nand packages on both sides

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of the SSD which could be a very legit strategy for boosting up the capacity of

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an extremely small 30 millimeter long

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m.2 yeah i think it's actually pretty common

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especially during vibration four assembly

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at least one screw which holds down the thermal module onto the apu is also used

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to hold down the shield can removing this screw can impact the

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thermal performance of the thermal module

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here we go first we're working on removing this outer sheet now that's an area where i

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could see them bringing out their torque wrench again you want to make sure that

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if you are installing a cooler you are screwing it in evenly on both or all

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four sides and the reason for that is if you got your CPU die or apu and you've

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got your cooler on top of it and it's sitting crooked one side of it could get

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less cooling or even in some cases if you have an air gap which is effectively

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an insulator no cooling that's a big problem yeah and if you've

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ever at home you've probably not done this but if you've ever tried to install a

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threadripper CPU without their torque wrench um that's real difficult too because you

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can either over tighten it and like flatten out the um the lga pins so that

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it doesn't make contact anymore or under tighten it

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uh and not make contact that way like it's it's actually just actually a

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really good idea to have a torque wrench for this kind of thing if it's a well-designed cooler it'll probably have

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stoppers and you just go until it stops but this is valve's first attempt so

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depending on the oem they're working with

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shield as you've just seen these two screws come first two more screws under

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here okay now you can actually remove the

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shield but be super careful to not disturb the whole thermal setup

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very important to make doubly sure that the battery is disconnected before

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proceeding so the battery was under that can yeah

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so this whole time pull it out to the side yeah to the side yeah

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okay okay yeah that is very close to the wi-fi module look at those antennas

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they're right there they're right freaking there

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boy is packed there's your dram yeah the

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fat boy heat pipe one heat pipe yep now disconnect the drive

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note that all steam deck models use the m.2 connector for internal storage only

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2230 and size will fit yep that's correct yeah

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give the community time

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uh yeah i mean there's no reason yeah you there's no reason you couldn't have

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an extension ribbon extension man do you guys want to see it on lttstore.com okay

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steam deck m.2 ribbon extension we find some other place to jam a 2280. i

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honestly don't know i don't think we'd be able to probably have to do it externally yeah

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including the 64 Gigabyte model to actually remove the SSD so the 64

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Gigabyte emmc is a NVMe okay module so interesting that

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was not what i expected we knew the 64 gig emmc model wasn't going to have the

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same performance as a full-fledged SSD

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using the NVMe protocol also the flash is just not as fast if i

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recall correctly no but what we didn't know was if it would plug into the m.2

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interface or if it would be soldered to the board or something and then you

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could expand that with an m.2 SSD it looks like it is either emmc

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or an SSD you can't stack them because it was looking like the the smart play

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assuming that you didn't need i think it's the better screen that comes with the 512 gig or something yeah it's got

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the uh laser etched yeah screen if you didn't need that it was looking like the

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smart play was to take the emmc model and then upgrade it so you'd get even

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more storage but it looks like that's not a thing

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here that's it

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cute we haven't filmed the entire reassembly process but as we mentioned

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with the thumbsticks that's the whole thing it's basically doing this whole thing again but backwards

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remember if you have followed these directions correctly you've done

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absolutely that was it that's as far as they're gonna go like i kind of expected

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to see a little bit more um not only that but i did notice that the SSD had

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cans on both sides for emi so they're very very concerned about emi

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on that SSD now what we don't know is if

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we could reuse that emi shield as long as whatever SSD we get is in a similar

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kind of form factor and it wouldn't surprise me to see someone like uh

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kyocio who already works in within these kinds of constraints to bring out an SSD

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that's specifically compatible with the steam deck i mean we're already seeing it with the playstation 5. it's not like

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SSD manufacturers aren't on this you know oh yeah game consoles

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getting SSD upgrades that's a thing i think it's i think it's a matter of time

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or maybe even with you know a pre-installed shield or doing their own

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validation or whatever now the question there becomes

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if other companies are doing their own validation and their own ssds how long

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before valve actually has an official support list i don't think they'll do it

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no i think it's just more hassle than it's worth i guess yeah why are they

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taking on that responsibility there's literally no money in it for them and

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it's in their best interest for people to not break these things and even

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though i think at least for our users the vast majority are not going to break

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their steam deck by opening it the odds are definitely greater of breaking it if

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you open it versus if you just don't well by that same token why would they

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say that it's yours to open is it just that they're very libertarian about it

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or yeah it's just that you can but clearly the odds of it generating a

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return or some kind of false warranty claim from someone who accidentally

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damaged something are definitely greater if people open them people make mistakes

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happens to the best of us i remember an incident with an imac probe once a very

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long time ago yeah but the difference here is that

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you'd actually be able to buy these spare parts that you need to repair it

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yes that's that's something that valve has just said well they just came out and said just now they haven't committed

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to every spare part joysticks yes what

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else did they actually commit to providing i don't know that they're

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going to provide main boards they may not so if you spill your coffee while

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you're working on an SSD upgrade that's going to generate a support

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ticket to valve which even if they don't cover it because it's not covered by

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warranty does add cost i could see batteries i could see maybe maybe

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displays maybe but probably not motherboards probably not personally i'd

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like to see valve go the whole mile

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and make it so that for it would cost more obviously because

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you'd have all this extra packaging and extra logistics cost but you i would

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like them to make the entire steam deck available in

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exploded form to build one so you could just buy every part and put it together

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yourself if you like were a masochist and you really wanted

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to i challenge you valve take it one step further it would cost more to put

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it together yourself with no warranty that is an interesting concept yeah i

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mean i don't think many people would take them up on it but it would mean

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that literally everything is available as a replacement part if you needed it

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yeah i'd be down for that no of course you would well yeah i mean i'm gonna

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take this thing apart i don't care hashtag biased did you pre-order one i

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did yeah me too oh wait hold on i heard back from

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valve uh full teardown and additional content make sure you're subscribed guys

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i heard back from valve and we are definitely gonna have some interesting

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stuff going on once they jump through some internal hoops but you're more

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informed now about what's inside your steam deck that we are anyway thanks for

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looking for another one maybe check out our preview of the steam deck if you

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haven't already seen it we got to play games we even did a little bit of casual

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benchmarking thermal camera it's a pretty good video