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whenever we put together a list of recommended parts for building your own

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pc there's one complaint that oh shows

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you dumb canadian

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yeah that you know that was pretty mean but

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the random stranger i've never met and never will has a point

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maybe it's just as viable and maybe it's

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way cheaper to build a pc on ebay

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maybe within the same budget you could build a much more kick-ass rig than you

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could by going through newegg or amazon maybe

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none of this is a maybe because maybe we

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already did it and maybe i'm gonna tell you guys all

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about it

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g skills trident z royal series ddr4 RAM

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features a polished aluminum heat spreader and gold ore silver and this

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gorgeous crystalline light bar that radiates RGB in every direction check it

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out at the link below so we began our journey with a spec list

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for like a decent gaming pc on pc part

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picker that ended up at just over a thousand dollars for all new parts at

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retail prices now we didn't choose this price point for any particular reason

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other than that it's just kind of what we ended up with for a good

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bang for the buck gaming pc so with any luck ebay is either going to

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increase our bang or decrease the buck

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now of course regardless of price the main disadvantage of ordering off ebay

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is that you're going to be stuck getting all of your parts piecemeal which for us

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meant that we actually had to wait about a month in between ordering all this

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stuff and making this video here for you

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people which is going to be an eternity if you're just looking to

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fire up some apex legends with your buddies now to mitigate that somewhat we did

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actually limit ourselves to buy it now

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items rather than furiously refreshing auction pages so you can assume that

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with some more patients you could actually do a little bit better than us

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but then how well did we do

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it's time for a haul video

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let's start off with our case then okay this honestly didn't matter much we were

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going for cheap and functional and it ended up

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being a rosewill nautilus that won the

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day it was packed

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well enough and it's arguably a reasonably

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attractive case too if you're into the whole kind of glossy

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uh plastic look now you might be thinking to yourself

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when you first open up the case doesn't the nautilus come with two

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fans in the box and yes it does

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they just happened to be loose in the box for us for some reason

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actually if we're being honest the shipping was overall quite

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horrible for this thing and worse the

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nautilus is supposed to have a windowed side panel and as you guys already saw

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it does it just was installed on the wrong side so

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clearly they were packing it up in a freaking hurry

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i mean this is what you get sometimes when you go with ebay and the thing is

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that with cheap cases we actually found that the pricing for used ones on ebay

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wasn't really any better than just buying an entry-level case at retail

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unless of course you count the extra value

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ah yes not one not two

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but three extra SATA cables were included in the

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box

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so then once we get all of our wires managed and kind of where they're

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supposed to be right gotta take that off that's a

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it's a window there we can move on

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zero gravity that seems to be what whoever packed this was

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hoping for because that's the only way it was going to survive

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next up next up is our power supply an 80 plus

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rating for the power supply of any modern computer is pretty much

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non-negotiable and we're gonna want about 500 watts of continuous power for

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our build to live and to give us some room to expand now

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despite its shortcomings like its lack of modular cabling and if we're being

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honest middling overall performance evga's 500b fit the bill for us nicely

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now this one right here is an open box model so

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it hasn't been used very much if at all actually doesn't have a speck of dust on

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it so this looks like a pretty good score for 25 us dollars

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now for the platform that's going to go into our

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kind of rat's nest over here we wanted something that was going to have at

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least eight threads with enough per thread performance that games won't end

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up slowed down by our CPU so ryzen is

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kind of a no-brainer at this price point and there were some very decent deals to

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be had on the gen 1 ryzen 5 1600x

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now we had considered an engineering sample core i7 8700 non-k

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but it has a locked multiplier

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and no heat sink in the box if we're

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going to have to buy a CPU cooler anyway we want to be able to overclock so we

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ended up by the way let's just gonna get this up there we go with a deep cool

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gammaxx 400 which cost us about 24

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now with just a six core CPU and a single graphics card we don't need the

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fanciest motherboard on the block so we went hunting for a b series board with a

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decent vrm layout for that overclocking

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now virtually all the options available on ebay with decent pricing were refurbs

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which means that they only come with io shields

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if you're lucky although we did also get a wi-fi antenna so that's nice but

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thankfully that's actually not a big deal for us thanks to our

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for it bonus SATA cables

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anyway the choice really came down to between

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two boards from ASUS the b350 plus and

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the b450 plus now the chipset difference doesn't

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really matter for us because we're running first gen ryzen but we decided

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to spend the extra five dollars on the newer b450 board if only because it's

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likely to get firmware updates for longer

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next up is RAM now 16 gigs was our target for

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comfortable gaming and multitasking including running the notorious memory

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hog chrome web browser

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but the thing that we kind of ran into here

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is that memory deals on ebay were few

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and far between so we ended up going with this

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like the definition of bog standard no

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name ddr4 2400 and this stuff is weird

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like there's no visible branding even on the chips themselves where you'd

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normally see you know some kind of name you recognize like samsung or sk hynix

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and when we fired up these modules to test them we couldn't even find a vendor

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id string spooky i mean at least it was cheap this is

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funny too warranty void if removed what warranty

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from who nobody knows

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anyway speaking of cheap our storage options now we wanted an SSD that was

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large enough to handle our operating system and our key applications so a

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crucial mx 500 250 gig fit the bill just

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nicely not only is it yes dirt cheap but

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it also has a dram cash which is important for its long-term performance

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the one thing it can't do is handle a big steam library so we also grabbed

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this two terabyte western digital 7200 RPM enterprise drive which was a steal

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at 49 so both of these are either new or open

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box because buying heavily used storage is

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just not the brand of fun that we're gonna get into today

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finally we come to the single most important piece of any gaming rig our

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graphics card so our goal was to pick up something that's capable of running

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1440p at 60fps or 1080p at much higher frame

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rates like you know 120 or 144 hertz and

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so we quickly narrowed down our search to either the GeForce gtx 980 ti or gtx

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1070 ti which are surprisingly quite

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similarly priced at around 300 us dollars right now which is a bit strange

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when you consider that the 980 ti is actually closer to a regular 1070 rather

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than a 1070 ti so obviously we ended up

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then with the 1070 ti at least though to the 980 ti's credit it's not as bad of

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value as some of the older titans that we were considering early on so right

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now this looks like about the sweet spot in the used market so i guess a lot of

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the folks who bought 1070 ti's are upgrading or else we got

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a mining card which is possible it's clean but it looks

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cleaned as opposed to clean

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so after a not insignificant amount of cable management thank you Anthony

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we've got our build and all of its second-hand glory all in we spent about

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776 dollars before shipping which if we

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were in the continental us would have been about 50 bucks which is just about

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250 dollars saved versus our retail

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build now there are a couple of small issues like that wireless antenna i was

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so pleased about being included doesn't plug into our motherboard and

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that io shield that we were so happy to have

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is also not correct for our motherboard but hey

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gamey is gaming so why don't we take it for a spin

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all right oh we need to turn vsync off oof

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okay hold on just need to turn off that uh motion blur ew motion blur ew ew

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all right resume the game dang

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Anthony this is one cheap

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130 FPS at 2560 by 1440 and doom

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look at that responsiveness i mean you'd never know

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sort of looking at the frame rates we're running at here that this is like a you

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know ghetto jank ebay pc i mean it doesn't make your skills any

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better but like not bad at all

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oops hit him in the ankles oh no oh no

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CPU temps for sitting nice in the just 40 plus range

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although bear in mind of course AMD does record CPU temperatures slightly

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differently from Intel when we do shadow of the tomb raider something a little newer everything working exactly as we'd

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expect why don't we crank this puppy too

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exclusive full screen turn that v-sync off

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highest no motion blur so here we're stuck with the built-in

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benchmark but that'll still give us a pretty good idea of how this guy's gonna

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run were you using hot glue for this build

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a few tweezers Anthony well someone got hot glue on the tape oh

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you know what i think that was me not bad so remembering that we were

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targeting 1440p 60fps

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that is looking pretty darn

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nice so yeah we're a little on the low side but remember we absolutely cranked

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this game and this is one of the top triple a titles from 2018 so

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oh good he gave me a gun oh that's so nice

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i'm a nice person and inspect weapon really that's a

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button to stare at your weapon so we're in apex legends now

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i'm aware that the hd textures are not done downloading but for some reason

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they've stopped coming down and i don't really know

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what the issue is with that so we're just gonna go ahead and assume

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that it'll be some performance amount that's a little lower than this the good

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news is that's honestly pretty fine

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because we're looking at like

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70 80 plus frames per second

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not bad at all i'm officially better than half of the

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people who joined this match do i have any bullet guns button gun bullets

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yeah he's he's done oof all right and we're dead

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so that was it for um my apex legends

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career could have gone pro if only i had any

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skills and uh practiced so

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at the end of the day some of the items were either the same price or more

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expensive on ebay compared to retail but

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if you're strapped for cash and you need a cheap way to get some gaming grade

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hardware at least some of them were a better deal as long as you don't care

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too much about warranties now the risk of getting something that's

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just dead on arrival is not as much as you might think thanks to ebay's from

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our experience anyway excellent buyer protection so

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what it really comes down to then is your willingness to deal with a

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premature failure that doesn't come with any kind of manufacturer warranty

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support as for me well

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as a tinkerer the way that i've always looked at it is that if i save

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nearly the cost of my single most expensive component on a build then i

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can literally afford to replace any piece of it that fails and worst

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case scenario i'll be back where i started then

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if it doesn't fail well then i get to keep that money in my pocket

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