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when you saw the number one canadian tech tuber using subpar equipment to

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watch talk to your digital content you got angry you raked us across the kohl's

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for watching ultra high definition blu-rays

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on an xbox and we saw your feedback but

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it hurt and we needed some time to recover and also we're not just going to take

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your word for it that a proper blu-ray player will perform so much better

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reading digital ones and zeros off of a plastic film disc

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so we need to test these claims to find out is there something to the hype or is

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this yet another snake oil high five

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rabbit hole can the average person spot the difference

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Linus

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you were technically correct which is the best kind of correct however and

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this is a really big however you guys while a standalone blu-ray player does

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have advantages over throwing your favorite film into your xbox i'm not

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personally expecting to be able to tell which image i got for free with my halo

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machine and which one came out of a 500

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panasonic dp ub 820 pck our premium 4k

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HDR blu-ray player that has features like a precise chroma hdx processor

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dolby vision and 192 kilohertz 32-bit

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audio support for our side-by-side then we're using the only tv that we have two

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of the lg OLED g1 and of course we don't

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have stands for them so you'll have to forgive our rudimentary setup back here both are in

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filmmaker mode with stupid features like motion clarity turned off and

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i still don't know which one is which so i'm gonna go try and figure it out now

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turn around

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i think it's the right one there's oh

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no it's fine there just there was a bit more green in the foliage behind the car

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that was the only thing i was i was i was looking for a better color or

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something but that's not the whole story

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basically when we look at an image on a screen we see colors being represented

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by a set of numbers that your processor understands

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when it comes to RGB the color space not the pretty lights in your computer we

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are assigning different values to red green and blue if you've ever used any

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RGB software or say photoshop you might be familiar with setting values for rg

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and b anywhere from 0 to 255.

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these then get mixed together to give you one of nearly 17 million different

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colors each with its own hex code when things are instead broken down into

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ycbcr which is also often referred to as

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ycc it gets a little more confusing

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instead of red green and blue we have y

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which is our luma or brightness component then cb is blue relative to

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green and cr is red relative to green

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so in a 4 4 4 image then we get an uncompressed signal that easily

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translates to RGB but when we compress it to say

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400 we keep the same luminance value

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which defines the majority of the image's contrast and shapes but we lose

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color data so you can see then this image is still clearly defined look at

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me you can make out detail on my beard and face but you probably can't see the

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exact color of my high quality insulated water bottle from lttstore.com so i

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guess you'll just have to buy one and see it for yourself

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scaling up to four to zero we get one quarter of the full four four four ycc

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color space four two two nets us half of our full color space and for the most

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part because we are much more sensitive to contrast than we are to color going

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from 444 to 422 or even 420 isn't very

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noticeable to the naked eye and is likely what you've been watching for

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years now obviously if we were to take a 444 image and put it directly next to a

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420 image and play spot the difference

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you would find some but nothing anywhere close to say thinking someone was

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wearing a red shirt instead of a green one or even a dark green shirt instead

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of a light green shirt instead what you'll typically notice is

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a much shorter gradient when colors mix and the primary reason that we do this

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compression is because 444 uses a lot of

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data so the 4k blu-rays behind me are

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stored in a ycbcr42010bit format but we've got a

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problem our panel is RGB

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so to get there we typically take our

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420 and we need to convert that to ycbcr444

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then rgbfi that image now our panasonic blu-ray player handles

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bit perfect 420 to 444 conversion but

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our series x well it's actually doing an imperfect

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conversion first to RGB then back to ycbcr to output to the

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display this can and does result in errors but

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as we saw they're extremely hard to spot even looking at two of the exact same

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displays on the same frame of content so

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if you're not a trained colorist good luck spotting the differences especially

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with moving content on the screen and even for those folks the difference

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between two panels rolling one after the other off the line even for a high

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quality set like lg's OLED evo g1 here is probably greater than the difference

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that we saw from our two sources meaning that unless you've spent actual time and

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or money professionally calibrating your display

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any concerns that you have about the chroma subsampling errors of your xbox

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can be safely put to rest is that image technically correct

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no but if i came in here without knowing anything about what was on these two tvs

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i wouldn't be able to tell you which one is which think i'm lying

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left is xbox right is blu-ray player uh

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which one do i think is the xbox uh left

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xbox is right

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left writes the xbox i'm going left as xbox

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they couldn't tell but we're not actually done yet not even

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close for those of you who don't know HDR or

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high dynamic range allows your display to show very dark and very bright images

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on screen at the same time improving the perceived resolution and making the

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content more lifelike and immersive and there are three major standards for HDR

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at the time of filming HDR 10 HDR 10 plus and dolby vision HDR's 10 metadata

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says okay we looked at the content here's the

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brightest scene here's the darkest scene let's just throw the rest somewhere in

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between with HDR 10 plus and dolby vision they use dynamic metadata to

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apply tone mapping throughout the entirety of the content being displayed

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making better effective use of the dynamic range of your panel

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dolby vision and HDR plus are also typically brighter to the eye when

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you're viewing them since they're mastered for displays that are capable

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of a thousand to up to four thousand nits peak brightness while hdr10 can end

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up anywhere from 400 to 4000

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that's why most monitors you see are not 10 plus they often can't go much higher

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than six or 700 nits let alone the thousand

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that 10 plus is meant for HDR 10 also can't go past 10 bit color

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depth and while very little content is at 12 bit or beyond these days it will

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come and these are forward-looking standards with dolby vision being widely

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regarded as better for enjoying films

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and unfortunately that's where this complaint comes in and

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it's pretty fair for movies that support dolby vision we

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really do need to apologize for our previous oversight and clarify that we

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would not recommend using the xbox series as a blu-ray player and it's

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bizarre because the 1x handles dolby vision streaming content just fine

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but for blu-rays it falls back to the weaker hdr10 master and for me anyway

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the difference is really obvious there'll be vision time

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oh well that's um a lot more obvious

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it's that one well not even just the clouds the reflections off the surface of the beach

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and the boats and stuff back there like it's just

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this is nice but this is sun shining off stuff

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but what about the rest the right is the one with dolby vision

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and the left is not yeah

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the right one okay right one

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right hand one yeah that one yeah yeah it looks bluer

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the right one yeah yeah that's pretty obvious i'm going with right

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yes they could tell

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and here's another reason why you might want to choose a proper blu-ray player

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over the xbox it's the lack of straight 24 or 60 FPS support so you will

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actually lose frames playing your blu-ray on an xbox though honestly not

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many people are going to notice a missing frame every minute or so when they're coming in at 24 per second at

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least that's the situation today if we were having this conversation a couple

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of years ago yes when the series x launched there was

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an issue with black levels and 4k HDR blu-ray playback but that has since been

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resolved so unless you've never patched your console the chances of running into

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that in your life are slim to none all of which raises the question

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if you're not a big gamer and you just want the best home theater experience

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possible what do you do the ps5 doesn't do dolby vision at all

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so it's already out of the equation leaving us to choose from our standalone

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player or an xbox series x both of which cost about 500 us dollars neither of

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them support super audio cd but at least the panasonic is a bit easier to use

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dolby atmos and dtsx the series x meanwhile supports these standards but

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getting them to work properly across all devices can be finicky as for ease of

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use and setup while we haven't experienced any hdcp handshake issues we

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have seen reports of it online for the xbox and on top of that the panasonic

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clearly has better support for dolby vision with proper chroma sub sampling

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and better frame rate support but aside from dolby vision it's really hard to

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spot the difference even if you know it's there so if you have a tv with dv

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we've got to give it to the big p but for everyone else particularly if

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you want the added functionality of playing video games or if you only use

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streaming services anyway the xbox is still a great choice but hey you guys

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decide for yourself we're going to have both of them linked below and if you

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want to go really ham you can get the 1300 dpub 9000 it has similar features

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to this blu-ray player but a much nicer build quality and high-end analog

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