WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:07.279 over the last few years we have had a blast checking out home movie formats 00:00:04.319 --> 00:00:12.639 that never really took off and in order to do that I've ended up with quite the 00:00:09.639 --> 00:00:14.920 collection of copies of Blade Runner but 00:00:12.639 --> 00:00:22.880 my collection could never be complete without RCA's biggest flop of all time 00:00:19.080 --> 00:00:25.599 this is a CED or capacitance electronic 00:00:22.880 --> 00:00:30.640 disc selectiv Vision Video dis player and this is yes yet another copy of 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:37.160 Blade Runner for my collection but this time on CED video disc from 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:42.039 1983 and I got to say even as someone who's very pro- digital I can imagine 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:48.879 how cool and special it would feel browsing for movies like this seeing all 00:00:46.120 --> 00:00:54.520 the artwork you know reading the large print synopsis on the back this feels 00:00:52.680 --> 00:01:01.199 incredible imagine like Bell's record wall but now video discs up on the wall 00:00:57.680 --> 00:01:04.119 and it's still a great movie but as cool 00:01:01.199 --> 00:01:08.080 as it feels this is a terrible format to release it on and I can't wait to tell 00:01:05.880 --> 00:01:12.799 you all about it got fired is now your fault the tools your company is using 00:01:10.360 --> 00:01:16.920 belong to the museum our sponsor oou offers over 50 apps to help your 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:22.790 business run smoothly use the right tools for the job with o 00:01:28.360 --> 00:01:33.439 do my favorite thing thing about these videos is that I review The Script we 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:39.200 talk about the major beats and the comparison points but they never show me 00:01:36.520 --> 00:01:43.320 it until the shoot so I have never actually loaded one of these I assume 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:47.759 this is the handle and I just pretty much you've got to flick that into the 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:52.200 load and unload position it's chunky she is chunky now 00:01:50.960 --> 00:01:57.360 you pop it in keep going keep go keep going oh it 00:01:55.240 --> 00:02:01.200 detects I'm on side one yeah like a notch or something yeah it's got to take 00:01:58.759 --> 00:02:09.800 the whole disc right so that's in that should be in and now pull it out oh 00:02:05.399 --> 00:02:11.440 wait it's gone oh it actually right that 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:14.920 makes sense this is just a sleeve yeah it's just a caddy for the whole thing I 00:02:13.160 --> 00:02:20.440 miss hearing and feeling like the physical K chunk as you like load a big 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.920 thing into a player that's great so cool 00:02:20.440 --> 00:02:28.040 and you don't have to rewind them I guess we'll talk about pros and cons 00:02:24.239 --> 00:02:29.560 later a bit but like how did VHS win by 00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:33.280 being better we'll get to that yeah speaking of VHS that's what we're going 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:37.879 to be using as our first comparison Point against our CED disc our player's 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:41.319 pretty old so we've actually got to hit fast forward just a little 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:48.480 bit okay I'm not going to look at it yet 00:02:45.519 --> 00:02:54.239 because before we do that I want to give you a little bit of history back in 1964 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:59.440 RCA or the radio Corporation of America decided to try their hand at bringing 00:02:56.200 --> 00:03:01.800 movies into the homes of the masses and 00:02:59.440 --> 00:03:08.280 what better way to do that affordably mind you than to copy the music industry 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:11.640 and use an easily stamped vinyl disc it 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:13.680 was a pretty good idea in theory but 00:03:11.640 --> 00:03:18.200 what they thought would be easy ended up taking over 15 years to develop and 00:03:16.239 --> 00:03:23.280 refine now we're going to talk more about how it works and why it took so 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:27.680 long later because right now I want to see what all the fuss was about 00:03:25.480 --> 00:03:32.799 obviously it's not the most Apples to Apples comparison because rced is not 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:38.920 widescreen yeah and our TVs are completely different but for our 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:42.680 technology developed in the 60s yeah 00:03:38.920 --> 00:03:44.400 it's pretty interesting at at the very 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:51.760 least I mean this is on a vinyl 00:03:47.040 --> 00:03:54.319 record yeah in a really Layman's way to 00:03:51.760 --> 00:04:00.439 put it yes it is a vinyl record it's got a whole lot more to it than that um it's 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:06.519 pretty impressive it is a piece of V it's carbon infused but 00:04:03.760 --> 00:04:11.280 yeah it's super cool I'm just kind of amazed it works at all I know I know 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:14.959 it's absolutely astounding can we fit to screen yeah we can fit to screen it just 00:04:12.920 --> 00:04:19.359 looks a little Sher when it does I know there's not much I think it's more 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:21.959 apples to apples though that way cuz VHS 00:04:19.359 --> 00:04:26.320 had the advantage for a second there of being much smaller and therefore looking 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:31.120 quite a bit better but you can already see where this starts to fall apart 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:36.320 though I mean these are both really old copies and I was about to say you start 00:04:33.960 --> 00:04:41.199 to see where VHS falls apart with the fringing we don't get fringing here yeah 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:45.360 but look at all the noise well yes like really weird noise too and on top of 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:50.520 that uh what also used to happen a lot is these would start to skip a whole 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:52.639 bunch as soon as they've been just used 00:04:50.520 --> 00:04:59.280 a little bit so you might say they were vinyl records kind honestly 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.960 yes oh that is really annoying yeah and 00:04:59.280 --> 00:05:06.000 it flick you yeah the noise just like comes in for a while when it works 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:10.000 though sure I think it actually looks a little better maybe a very small amount 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:15.960 dude the fringing the fringing on VHS looks poo 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:19.600 it does it do look at how much better something like that blue light in the 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:25.039 background with the bokeh it's got purple bokeh and it's got blue bokeh I 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:29.160 can't get over the noise man it's driving me crazy cuz it just like comes 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:34.240 in and out yes but we've got to evaluate it for how would have looked new well 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:37.280 this is pretty much it there's 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:39.840 like it's an old copy it's an old copy 00:05:37.280 --> 00:05:43.800 fine it's a used copy it's a used player we've got to evaluate it for how it 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:48.639 might have looked when it was new I mean this player and disc are older than us 00:05:46.280 --> 00:05:53.240 100% yeah so I think we should give it the benefit of the doubt and look at the 00:05:50.639 --> 00:06:00.160 moments when it's not doing that the okay sure but the problem is a lot of 00:05:55.960 --> 00:06:03.319 the times these wouldn't last in this 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.880 level of fidelity sure for very long 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:10.759 yeah because you're pulling it in and out all the time um they're not perfect 00:06:08.479 --> 00:06:16.800 there it's so much data packed into such a tiny surface area that like a tiny 00:06:14.039 --> 00:06:20.960 Speck of dust is going to just like introduce all this weird noise we're 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:25.039 seeing but it was developed in the 60 oh yeah I'm incredibly impressed what 00:06:22.440 --> 00:06:29.800 they've accomplished is an astounding feat of Technology like absolutely 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:34.759 mindblowing the fact that we're getting video and no you see how it starts to go 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:39.360 though yeah and that was far from the only challenge that CED faced when it 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:44.960 launched it had a small catalog of only about 50 titles and each disc only got 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:48.520 about 60 Minutes of content per side so you would have to get up and flip the 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:53.560 disc over when you were in the middle of watching your movie just like laser disc 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:58.520 VHS on the other hand was typically around 2 hours per tape at maximum 00:06:55.520 --> 00:07:02.360 quality and up to 4 hours at longplay 00:06:58.520 --> 00:07:04.199 quality now that's a big problem because 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:10.280 these three formats competed in the Market at the same time with CED pretty 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:16.120 much being the worst of both worlds video quality about on par with VHS but 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:20.400 with the same disadvantage that laser disc suffered from and that being that 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:25.960 you couldn't use your player to record live television and view it later Bo 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:27.240 okay this is are you kidding me we're 00:07:25.960 --> 00:07:30.919 never going to get it back on because of that oh my goodness it skips so much I 00:07:29.400 --> 00:07:34.680 know oh dude that's how we got so far ahead they were both playing at the same 00:07:32.919 --> 00:07:40.319 rate and don't forget that like these have been in caddies the whole time oh 00:07:37.400 --> 00:07:45.000 my yes it's used but it's gotten to the state while being in a protective sheet 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.479 ridiculous and being loaded and unloaded from the player and that's it people 00:07:46.159 --> 00:07:52.120 aren't taking them out like our Herald and mod copy that is like not very good 00:07:49.840 --> 00:07:56.080 quality at all anymore it's super busted so then if it had come out first I would 00:07:54.520 --> 00:08:02.960 kind of understand why they bothered to launch it but it didn't both laser dis 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:04.199 and VHS came out before CED so what 00:08:02.960 --> 00:08:08.800 could possibly have been their competitive Advantage it was supposed to 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:13.560 be cheaper these originally launched at around $500 for the player alone that's 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.759 way cheaper than the early players for these yep and then discs were supposed 00:08:15.280 --> 00:08:23.039 to be cheaper as well these were retailing for about $15 to $40 a movie 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:28.599 and they ended up with actually a pretty impressive library of around 1,700 films 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:32.759 or recordings which considering the three-year lifespan 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.759 it's pretty 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:41.399 good it's a pretty awful viewing experience though with the skips it's 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:43.399 really not great it is exactly as bad as 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:46.760 listening to a song with record skips yeah and here's the thing these are both 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:50.880 used they've both been played multiple times right this has been fine our VHS 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:55.440 yeah it's got some issues but like it's played normally this is constantly like 00:08:52.959 --> 00:09:00.079 just fully skipping ahead it could also be our stylus maybe it's just worn out 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:03.200 it's probably not what RCA called video virus where it needs to be played 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:07.399 through once or twice before working because we've watched this part a few 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:11.440 times now and it's always busted so I can understand why it didn't take off 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:16.720 but while it might have been a massive failure in the market for good reason 00:09:13.680 --> 00:09:18.399 the technology is really cool like to 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.760 the point where I'm not surprised it took them this long to develop you might 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:27.920 already be familiar with how a vinyl record works but if you're not to put it 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:31.320 very very simply a stylus gets dragged through wavy grooves that create 00:09:29.640 --> 00:09:36.720 vibrations which are picked up by the cartridge and turned into an audio 00:09:33.160 --> 00:09:39.200 signal well CED works by dragging a 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:44.240 stylus through wavy grooves as well but this time it's the depth of the vinyl 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:49.399 groove that matters and the stylus it doesn't vibrate instead the signal is 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:54.600 derived from the distance between the disc and the titanium electrode in the 00:09:51.800 --> 00:09:58.079 stylus through their Mutual capacitance that would be the ability of two 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:04.040 adjacent conductors to store electric charge so it's a bit more complicated 00:10:00.920 --> 00:10:06.279 than your hip friend's turntable and it 00:10:04.040 --> 00:10:11.720 gets even better see most vinyl records that are playing audio spin at 33 and A3 00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:19.760 RPM so just over 33 revolutions per minute to get a 60 HZ MTS video signal 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:23.560 rced player is spinning that disc at 450 00:10:19.760 --> 00:10:25.560 RPM shockingly RCA scientists figured 00:10:23.560 --> 00:10:30.079 all of this video capacitance stuff out way back in 00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:32.519 1972 there was no competition 00:10:30.079 --> 00:10:38.320 but at that time they were only able to store about 10 minutes of color footage 00:10:34.760 --> 00:10:40.360 per side yikes the original multi-layer 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:46.519 discs also had issues and they needed time to be refined into what we have now 00:10:42.959 --> 00:10:48.720 PVC AKA vinyl blended with carbon then 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:54.160 covered in a thin layer of lubricating silicone we actually have a regular old 00:10:51.560 --> 00:10:58.959 record for reference and there are some key differences that are immediately 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:03.480 obvious it's way flimsier but the thing that really stands out to me is the 00:11:01.079 --> 00:11:08.959 difference in the grooves see they're both the same 12-in size but for CED to 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:13.200 get the data density up everything everything had to be shrunk down by a 00:11:10.680 --> 00:11:18.480 huge Factor so instead of hundreds of grooves per inch I'm talking over 9,000 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:24.240 grooves per inch 9,541 to be precise at this scale the 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:30.279 tracking force of the stylus had to be absolutely perfect instead of 2 G for a 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:36.240 vinyl record it had to be dialed to 065 G with pretty much zero room for 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:41.600 error long story short it took them years to get to this point and by its 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:46.120 launch in 1981 it was just too little 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:48.839 too late VHS landed on us Shores in 1977 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:52.880 and Laser disc came out a year after that now while tape had been too 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:57.839 expensive to compete back when it was getting cooked up it wasn't by this time 00:11:55.519 --> 00:12:02.680 and renting movies on VHS was getting more common by the day in 1985 the first 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:07.839 Blockbuster Video rental store opened its doors in Dallas Texas with an 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:11.079 inventory of 8,000 VHS and 2,000 beta 00:12:07.839 --> 00:12:12.240 Max tapes and just one year later RCA 00:12:11.079 --> 00:12:17.199 gave up on CED tragic see stuff like that would 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:21.880 happen on VHS as well like you'd get some weirdness every now and then but 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:24.720 you would have to play that tape a lot or you would have had to like really run 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:30.600 it through the ringer like someone watch the same spot a lot of times ex yeah EX 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:36.040 yep exactly whereas this would happen you 00:12:32.959 --> 00:12:38.680 know pretty quickly I think they claimed 00:12:36.040 --> 00:12:42.360 that you'd get up to 500 watches I don't think I believe that even just popping 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:48.880 the top open looking at how fast this thing is ripping around 065 GS of force 00:12:46.079 --> 00:12:54.519 yeah and while I'm probably never going to watch the fine selection of CED video 00:12:52.040 --> 00:12:58.279 discs that came with our player they'll make a fine addition to my collection 00:12:56.880 --> 00:13:02.920 speaking of which are you the one working on the ultimate Showdown oh yeah 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:11.040 oh that's going to be cool nine formats we're going to be watching Rambo first 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:16.680 Blood across nine CED laser disc DVD HD 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:19.600 DVD Blu-ray VHS beta Max dvhs dvhs 00:13:16.680 --> 00:13:24.000 that's eight there one more there's one more I can't who will be crowned King of 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:28.360 the home movie formats and what will be the Winner's prize wa what Dennis how 00:13:26.199 --> 00:13:32.560 much does lonus pay you not enough that's why I sto my side business with a 00:13:30.160 --> 00:13:35.600 sponsor Odo you mean the Odo the all-in-one business solution that has 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:39.720 over 50 apps and you can sign up for a 15-day free trial right now oh my God 00:13:37.760 --> 00:13:44.600 here's a tip of saying that line yes what do you even sell things that cost 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.279 me 0 what you know online we reveiew 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:50.639 over 100 products a year instead of sending them back to the brand I send 00:13:48.040 --> 00:13:56.040 them to my customer let me show you here you are how many things do you have here 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:59.120 show him the oldo inventory app yes sir 00:13:56.040 --> 00:14:01.160 roughly 69 of them nice W you got the 58 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:04.839 80 and the lambo how much money you making well you can't see all old do 00:14:02.920 --> 00:14:09.480 sales app they have a full report oh that's a lot of money can I get a 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:12.120 discount yeah lus the potential is there 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:16.680 the potential's there and it's super cool and I love like loading it in and 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:20.480 unloading it that's great and the lack of fringing I would take this over VHS 00:14:19.079 --> 00:14:25.839 all other things being equal and no rewind if it worked perfectly at all 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:31.199 times and came out 5 years earlier and came out a few years earlier and had a 00:14:28.560 --> 00:14:35.759 better sele at launch honestly it might have been fine it just came out it's too 00:14:33.560 --> 00:14:40.759 little too late if you guys enjoyed this video maybe check out the one we did on 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:42.360 laser dis video this failed to catch on 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:46.880 but honestly I think deserved a better fate it was so far ahead of its time or 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:50.959 if you want to pick up more information on CED we're going to have some links to 00:14:48.959 --> 00:14:54.360 other YouTubers who have done super in-depth videos on this technology we'll 00:14:52.600 --> 00:15:01.759 have those down below but we'll actually have them this time yes he'll make sure 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:01.759 I will or I'll get fired no oh