1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:07,279 over the last few years we have had a blast checking out home movie formats 2 00:00:04,319 --> 00:00:12,639 that never really took off and in order to do that I've ended up with quite the 3 00:00:09,639 --> 00:00:14,920 collection of copies of Blade Runner but 4 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:22,880 my collection could never be complete without RCA's biggest flop of all time 5 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:25,599 this is a CED or capacitance electronic 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:30,640 disc selectiv Vision Video dis player and this is yes yet another copy of 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:37,160 Blade Runner for my collection but this time on CED video disc from 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:42,039 1983 and I got to say even as someone who's very pro- digital I can imagine 9 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:48,879 how cool and special it would feel browsing for movies like this seeing all 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:54,520 the artwork you know reading the large print synopsis on the back this feels 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:01:01,199 incredible imagine like Bell's record wall but now video discs up on the wall 12 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:04,119 and it's still a great movie but as cool 13 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:08,080 as it feels this is a terrible format to release it on and I can't wait to tell 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,799 you all about it got fired is now your fault the tools your company is using 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,920 belong to the museum our sponsor oou offers over 50 apps to help your 16 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:22,790 business run smoothly use the right tools for the job with o 17 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,439 do my favorite thing thing about these videos is that I review The Script we 18 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:39,200 talk about the major beats and the comparison points but they never show me 19 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:43,320 it until the shoot so I have never actually loaded one of these I assume 20 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:47,759 this is the handle and I just pretty much you've got to flick that into the 21 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:52,200 load and unload position it's chunky she is chunky now 22 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:57,360 you pop it in keep going keep go keep going oh it 23 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,200 detects I'm on side one yeah like a notch or something yeah it's got to take 24 00:01:58,759 --> 00:02:09,800 the whole disc right so that's in that should be in and now pull it out oh 25 00:02:05,399 --> 00:02:11,440 wait it's gone oh it actually right that 26 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,920 makes sense this is just a sleeve yeah it's just a caddy for the whole thing I 27 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:20,440 miss hearing and feeling like the physical K chunk as you like load a big 28 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:22,920 thing into a player that's great so cool 29 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:28,040 and you don't have to rewind them I guess we'll talk about pros and cons 30 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:29,560 later a bit but like how did VHS win by 31 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,280 being better we'll get to that yeah speaking of VHS that's what we're going 32 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:37,879 to be using as our first comparison Point against our CED disc our player's 33 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,319 pretty old so we've actually got to hit fast forward just a little 34 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:48,480 bit okay I'm not going to look at it yet 35 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:54,239 because before we do that I want to give you a little bit of history back in 1964 36 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:59,440 RCA or the radio Corporation of America decided to try their hand at bringing 37 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,800 movies into the homes of the masses and 38 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:08,280 what better way to do that affordably mind you than to copy the music industry 39 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:11,640 and use an easily stamped vinyl disc it 40 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,680 was a pretty good idea in theory but 41 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:18,200 what they thought would be easy ended up taking over 15 years to develop and 42 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:23,280 refine now we're going to talk more about how it works and why it took so 43 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:27,680 long later because right now I want to see what all the fuss was about 44 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:32,799 obviously it's not the most Apples to Apples comparison because rced is not 45 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:38,920 widescreen yeah and our TVs are completely different but for our 46 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:42,680 technology developed in the 60s yeah 47 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,400 it's pretty interesting at at the very 48 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:51,760 least I mean this is on a vinyl 49 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:54,319 record yeah in a really Layman's way to 50 00:03:51,760 --> 00:04:00,439 put it yes it is a vinyl record it's got a whole lot more to it than that um it's 51 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:06,519 pretty impressive it is a piece of V it's carbon infused but 52 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:11,280 yeah it's super cool I'm just kind of amazed it works at all I know I know 53 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:14,959 it's absolutely astounding can we fit to screen yeah we can fit to screen it just 54 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:19,359 looks a little Sher when it does I know there's not much I think it's more 55 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,959 apples to apples though that way cuz VHS 56 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:26,320 had the advantage for a second there of being much smaller and therefore looking 57 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:31,120 quite a bit better but you can already see where this starts to fall apart 58 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:36,320 though I mean these are both really old copies and I was about to say you start 59 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:41,199 to see where VHS falls apart with the fringing we don't get fringing here yeah 60 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,360 but look at all the noise well yes like really weird noise too and on top of 61 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,520 that uh what also used to happen a lot is these would start to skip a whole 62 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:52,639 bunch as soon as they've been just used 63 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:59,280 a little bit so you might say they were vinyl records kind honestly 64 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,960 yes oh that is really annoying yeah and 65 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:06,000 it flick you yeah the noise just like comes in for a while when it works 66 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:10,000 though sure I think it actually looks a little better maybe a very small amount 67 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:15,960 dude the fringing the fringing on VHS looks poo 68 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:19,600 it does it do look at how much better something like that blue light in the 69 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:25,039 background with the bokeh it's got purple bokeh and it's got blue bokeh I 70 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:29,160 can't get over the noise man it's driving me crazy cuz it just like comes 71 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:34,240 in and out yes but we've got to evaluate it for how would have looked new well 72 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:37,280 this is pretty much it there's 73 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,840 like it's an old copy it's an old copy 74 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:43,800 fine it's a used copy it's a used player we've got to evaluate it for how it 75 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:48,639 might have looked when it was new I mean this player and disc are older than us 76 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:53,240 100% yeah so I think we should give it the benefit of the doubt and look at the 77 00:05:50,639 --> 00:06:00,160 moments when it's not doing that the okay sure but the problem is a lot of 78 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:03,319 the times these wouldn't last in this 79 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,880 level of fidelity sure for very long 80 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:10,759 yeah because you're pulling it in and out all the time um they're not perfect 81 00:06:08,479 --> 00:06:16,800 there it's so much data packed into such a tiny surface area that like a tiny 82 00:06:14,039 --> 00:06:20,960 Speck of dust is going to just like introduce all this weird noise we're 83 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:25,039 seeing but it was developed in the 60 oh yeah I'm incredibly impressed what 84 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:29,800 they've accomplished is an astounding feat of Technology like absolutely 85 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:34,759 mindblowing the fact that we're getting video and no you see how it starts to go 86 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:39,360 though yeah and that was far from the only challenge that CED faced when it 87 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:44,960 launched it had a small catalog of only about 50 titles and each disc only got 88 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,520 about 60 Minutes of content per side so you would have to get up and flip the 89 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,560 disc over when you were in the middle of watching your movie just like laser disc 90 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:58,520 VHS on the other hand was typically around 2 hours per tape at maximum 91 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:02,360 quality and up to 4 hours at longplay 92 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:04,199 quality now that's a big problem because 93 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:10,280 these three formats competed in the Market at the same time with CED pretty 94 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:16,120 much being the worst of both worlds video quality about on par with VHS but 95 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:20,400 with the same disadvantage that laser disc suffered from and that being that 96 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:25,960 you couldn't use your player to record live television and view it later Bo 97 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,240 okay this is are you kidding me we're 98 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,919 never going to get it back on because of that oh my goodness it skips so much I 99 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,680 know oh dude that's how we got so far ahead they were both playing at the same 100 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:40,319 rate and don't forget that like these have been in caddies the whole time oh 101 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:45,000 my yes it's used but it's gotten to the state while being in a protective sheet 102 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,479 ridiculous and being loaded and unloaded from the player and that's it people 103 00:07:46,159 --> 00:07:52,120 aren't taking them out like our Herald and mod copy that is like not very good 104 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:56,080 quality at all anymore it's super busted so then if it had come out first I would 105 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:02,960 kind of understand why they bothered to launch it but it didn't both laser dis 106 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:04,199 and VHS came out before CED so what 107 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,800 could possibly have been their competitive Advantage it was supposed to 108 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:13,560 be cheaper these originally launched at around $500 for the player alone that's 109 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,759 way cheaper than the early players for these yep and then discs were supposed 110 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:23,039 to be cheaper as well these were retailing for about $15 to $40 a movie 111 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:28,599 and they ended up with actually a pretty impressive library of around 1,700 films 112 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:32,759 or recordings which considering the three-year lifespan 113 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,759 it's pretty 114 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:41,399 good it's a pretty awful viewing experience though with the skips it's 115 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,399 really not great it is exactly as bad as 116 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:46,760 listening to a song with record skips yeah and here's the thing these are both 117 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,880 used they've both been played multiple times right this has been fine our VHS 118 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:55,440 yeah it's got some issues but like it's played normally this is constantly like 119 00:08:52,959 --> 00:09:00,079 just fully skipping ahead it could also be our stylus maybe it's just worn out 120 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:03,200 it's probably not what RCA called video virus where it needs to be played 121 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,399 through once or twice before working because we've watched this part a few 122 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:11,440 times now and it's always busted so I can understand why it didn't take off 123 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:16,720 but while it might have been a massive failure in the market for good reason 124 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:18,399 the technology is really cool like to 125 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,760 the point where I'm not surprised it took them this long to develop you might 126 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,920 already be familiar with how a vinyl record works but if you're not to put it 127 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:31,320 very very simply a stylus gets dragged through wavy grooves that create 128 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:36,720 vibrations which are picked up by the cartridge and turned into an audio 129 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:39,200 signal well CED works by dragging a 130 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:44,240 stylus through wavy grooves as well but this time it's the depth of the vinyl 131 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:49,399 groove that matters and the stylus it doesn't vibrate instead the signal is 132 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:54,600 derived from the distance between the disc and the titanium electrode in the 133 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:58,079 stylus through their Mutual capacitance that would be the ability of two 134 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:04,040 adjacent conductors to store electric charge so it's a bit more complicated 135 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,279 than your hip friend's turntable and it 136 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:11,720 gets even better see most vinyl records that are playing audio spin at 33 and A3 137 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:19,760 RPM so just over 33 revolutions per minute to get a 60 HZ MTS video signal 138 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:23,560 rced player is spinning that disc at 450 139 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,560 RPM shockingly RCA scientists figured 140 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:30,079 all of this video capacitance stuff out way back in 141 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:32,519 1972 there was no competition 142 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:38,320 but at that time they were only able to store about 10 minutes of color footage 143 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,360 per side yikes the original multi-layer 144 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:46,519 discs also had issues and they needed time to be refined into what we have now 145 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:48,720 PVC AKA vinyl blended with carbon then 146 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:54,160 covered in a thin layer of lubricating silicone we actually have a regular old 147 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:58,959 record for reference and there are some key differences that are immediately 148 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:03,480 obvious it's way flimsier but the thing that really stands out to me is the 149 00:11:01,079 --> 00:11:08,959 difference in the grooves see they're both the same 12-in size but for CED to 150 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:13,200 get the data density up everything everything had to be shrunk down by a 151 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:18,480 huge Factor so instead of hundreds of grooves per inch I'm talking over 9,000 152 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:24,240 grooves per inch 9,541 to be precise at this scale the 153 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:30,279 tracking force of the stylus had to be absolutely perfect instead of 2 G for a 154 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:36,240 vinyl record it had to be dialed to 065 G with pretty much zero room for 155 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:41,600 error long story short it took them years to get to this point and by its 156 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:46,120 launch in 1981 it was just too little 157 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:48,839 too late VHS landed on us Shores in 1977 158 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:52,880 and Laser disc came out a year after that now while tape had been too 159 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:57,839 expensive to compete back when it was getting cooked up it wasn't by this time 160 00:11:55,519 --> 00:12:02,680 and renting movies on VHS was getting more common by the day in 1985 the first 161 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:07,839 Blockbuster Video rental store opened its doors in Dallas Texas with an 162 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:11,079 inventory of 8,000 VHS and 2,000 beta 163 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:12,240 Max tapes and just one year later RCA 164 00:12:11,079 --> 00:12:17,199 gave up on CED tragic see stuff like that would 165 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:21,880 happen on VHS as well like you'd get some weirdness every now and then but 166 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:24,720 you would have to play that tape a lot or you would have had to like really run 167 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:30,600 it through the ringer like someone watch the same spot a lot of times ex yeah EX 168 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:36,040 yep exactly whereas this would happen you 169 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:38,680 know pretty quickly I think they claimed 170 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:42,360 that you'd get up to 500 watches I don't think I believe that even just popping 171 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:48,880 the top open looking at how fast this thing is ripping around 065 GS of force 172 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:54,519 yeah and while I'm probably never going to watch the fine selection of CED video 173 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:58,279 discs that came with our player they'll make a fine addition to my collection 174 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,920 speaking of which are you the one working on the ultimate Showdown oh yeah 175 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:11,040 oh that's going to be cool nine formats we're going to be watching Rambo first 176 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:16,680 Blood across nine CED laser disc DVD HD 177 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:19,600 DVD Blu-ray VHS beta Max dvhs dvhs 178 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:24,000 that's eight there one more there's one more I can't who will be crowned King of 179 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,360 the home movie formats and what will be the Winner's prize wa what Dennis how 180 00:13:26,199 --> 00:13:32,560 much does lonus pay you not enough that's why I sto my side business with a 181 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,600 sponsor Odo you mean the Odo the all-in-one business solution that has 182 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,720 over 50 apps and you can sign up for a 15-day free trial right now oh my God 183 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:44,600 here's a tip of saying that line yes what do you even sell things that cost 184 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,279 me 0 what you know online we reveiew 185 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:50,639 over 100 products a year instead of sending them back to the brand I send 186 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:56,040 them to my customer let me show you here you are how many things do you have here 187 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:59,120 show him the oldo inventory app yes sir 188 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,160 roughly 69 of them nice W you got the 58 189 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,839 80 and the lambo how much money you making well you can't see all old do 190 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:09,480 sales app they have a full report oh that's a lot of money can I get a 191 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,120 discount yeah lus the potential is there 192 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:16,680 the potential's there and it's super cool and I love like loading it in and 193 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,480 unloading it that's great and the lack of fringing I would take this over VHS 194 00:14:19,079 --> 00:14:25,839 all other things being equal and no rewind if it worked perfectly at all 195 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:31,199 times and came out 5 years earlier and came out a few years earlier and had a 196 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:35,759 better sele at launch honestly it might have been fine it just came out it's too 197 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:40,759 little too late if you guys enjoyed this video maybe check out the one we did on 198 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,360 laser dis video this failed to catch on 199 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:46,880 but honestly I think deserved a better fate it was so far ahead of its time or 200 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,959 if you want to pick up more information on CED we're going to have some links to 201 00:14:48,959 --> 00:14:54,360 other YouTubers who have done super in-depth videos on this technology we'll 202 00:14:52,600 --> 00:15:01,759 have those down below but we'll actually have them this time yes he'll make sure 203 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,759 I will or I'll get fired no oh