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flat we're off to a rough start here that was awesome okay do you want me to
start so that you can do your long yes because I will actually do it
right phone locking phone unlocking in the states is now actually legal and
they now have $12 Wireless plans so that you can use selective Social Services
not Social Services social
there social things that are also services on your phone Social Services
has a pretty specific meaning I'm going to call social
services on you no speaking of Social
Services and abuse he is getting abused
by the Oculus DK2 which is getting like
zero day patches like multiple times a
day like well the different like the different games and applications and
stuff are all updating because the backend SDK
for dk1 went up to 0.3 and then for DK2
support they're like you need 0.4 so a lot of things don't really work yay um
also it uses a screen from a Galaxy Note 3 which is kind of interesting um next
up we've got unsurprisingly GTX 880
rumors are circulating and actually
surprisingly GTX 99d rumors are
circulating so we'll go through all that rumor mill stuff because I legitimately
know nothing about either of them yay
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let's kick things off with
Obama thanks Obama no legitimately
thanks Obama this is very important uh so this was originally posted by JK snow
on the Forum who has 342 posts has a
picture of a girl wearing a lot of
mascara like that is a lot of mascara um
anyway more importantly right in 2000 okay I think that uh I think that that
might actually be wrong I believe the law was actually passed in 2012 but the
point is that there was a law passed in the US that prohibited users from
unlocking their phones users who unlocked their phones could face prison
time or massive sixf figure fines in
penalties which is insane I mean it's
insane let's look at this from the carrier perspective for a second okay so
they sell you a contract okay so you're locked in you're going to pay them
however much per month and you're going to use their service and you're going to
pay it okay then they sell you a phone
now they can either sell you the phone by itself for full ticket price or they
can bundle it with a contract and then they can sell you an inflated contract
price with a reduced price phone and you're subsidizing the phone with the
contract now either way whether you
bought the phone outright and signed a contract with them at a lower price or
whether you bought the phone partially and signed a contract to pay an inflated
price the phone belongs to you yeah if
you terminate the contract you have to pay the remainder of the value of the
phone that you own or that you owe so
why shouldn't you have the right to change carriers well there's a couple of
reasons number one is exclusive devices where they work out deals with phone
manufacturers like Verizon for example being the only one with the Droid DNA
and AT&T being the only one with the ASUS um pad phone X
but that's not a legal thing and who
cares and and that's not that's not a
legal problem the government the police
should not be wasting resources on this shouldn't be involved in this crap so
makes no sense basically what's going on is it's effective today it's no longer
illegal to unlock a phone in the United States you know what's funny is I
actually ran into issues with this myself even though I'm in Canada because
I would be seeded us version phones for
reviews and I would say yo dog I ain't
got no AT&T up here so I need this
unlocked and they'd be like no can do really sorry I won't say
who it was but someone did it but that's exactly it how are they going to enforce
that rubbish like of course you can do it so okay the good news is that an IDI
iotic law that never should have existed has been done away with but the bad news
is that it actually doesn't mean
anything this does nothing to prevent I
I know a ton of people that were already unlocking their phones in the States
because like you just said how are you supposed to enforce this anyways so it's
super Dum ridiculous and this doesn't do
anything about phones that are just enforced by the manufacturer or by
particularly the manufacturer where the manufacturer is enforcing no unlocking like the iPhone cuz it's also not
illegal for them to lock and protect the lock on their phone that's right so it
does absolutely nothing um and I wish
that this was better news than it was I've seen a lot of people really excited
about this news and as much as it's as
as it's at least a step backward from
the wrong direction it's not a step in the right direction yet there are
countries where these kinds of lockdowns
are illegal because should because it's a consumer protection issue it's it's
it's basically an anti-competitive Behavior to go not only am I going to
get you to sign a contract that says you can't go with someone else during this
time and then we're going to subsidize a phone with that even if you do want to
break the contract and pay off the phone I'm that's a brick now so whatever dog
and the other thing too is and aside from that even if it was mandated that
legally they had to unlock them they're still allowed to charge you for it and
there's no limit although hearing Canada I think the average is around 50 bucks
yeah yeah and whereas you can get a code online
for like six yeah so this this should have well I I wanted to unlock my iPhone
4 and I wasn't able to yeah yeah and that funny thing about that one is that
if I recall correctly it didn't matter
that the phone was completely paid off subsidy wise my contract that the phone
was tied to wasn't up because that
contract changed because I moved from NC
owning my phone plan to me owning it and it renewed for a new chunk so I ended up
not being able to unlock it within the useful lifetime of that phone oh my God
ridiculous kind of ridiculous I gave my brother my old S3 so that he could work
with it and try and fix it and give it to his girlfriend because his girlfriend had an ancient phone anyways so he ended
up figuring that out and wanted to unlock it so I used my unlock code that
I bought for it when we were in Taiwan again and it re unlocked the phone for
free free I had already paid for it but I had done this like two or three times
already and it still worked and cost me like $6 when I did it so just in case
you're waning on how to do it there's like a billion in one websites that can do it for you speaking of but I've heard
that the unlocking iPhones you pretty much have to get it done through your
carrier and it's like super crazy expensive although there's some
jailbreaking thing that you can do but then I I think it's like a lot of work
and a pain in the ass or something or something like that and I think his
girlfriend didn't want that done or I don't remember speaking of bogus unlocking codes uh this was actually a
pretty funny article I read this week it's not in our it's not in the do yeah
yeah um so shiron Parish Jr allegedly
scammed Apple not once but 42 times uh
basically the trick is that you here we go hold on so it's an authorization code
scam and it's apparently amazingly simple so you visit an Apple Store try
to buy products with four different debit cards which were all closed by the
respective financial institutions when his debit card was inevitably declined
by the Apple Store he would protest and offer to call his bank except he was
just pretending to call someone so the complaint says he would offer Apple
store employees a completely fake authorization code with a certain number
of digits which would normally Pro be provided by credit card issuers to
create a record of the credit or debit override but the problem with this
system is that as long as the number of digits is is correct the authorization
code actually isn't meaningful in any way it's just a record it's a log yeah
yeah so all they had was a record of him approving his own overrides you got to
you got to wonder 42 times like this is like 300 Grand at some point do you just
kind of go this worked really well maybe I should go to perhaps a different store
like not the Apple Store maybe I should hit someone else change it up a little
bit he even hit the same exact storefront twice yeah like dude I mean
it's one of those things like hilarious Thief footage is always funny because
it's like what kind of people b& well
usually winners right um where they just do this amazingly ridiculous stuff yeah
um my favorite is sorry I'm going to interject here my favorite is the guy
that's sprinting through the mall and then runs through the glass door and
just like Kap the glass shadow and he just slaps
it to the ground and doesn't move and I was like wow you literally just knocked
yourself out spectacularly good
job all right what else we got here oh this is more more good news on the uh
wireless carrier front um
Sprint is going to be selling a or is selling whatever a $12 Wireless plan
that connects to Twitter Instagram Pinterest or Facebook
okay I think it's a bunch of ores like Twitter or Instagram or Pinterest or
Facebook okay so basically instead of buying a bucket of data customers can
pay less for just the app that they use
the
most other apps might be added in the
future um and this new plan is only available at Walmart and the base
offering covers just 20 minutes of talk and 20 texts but with unlimited access
to one of the above social media
platforms um well what I would like to see I think they had something coming
let me just have a look I think there was something for uh a music streaming
service as well um but the the stupid
thing about this is that T-Mobile is already allowing unlimited music
streaming service that doesn't count against your data plan so when you use a
service like uh Spotify for example
so yeah I just don't really understand
if they enable Skype I could see people using it because you can do text and
voice calling through that so if you wanted a really basic phone but then why
would you need data so so yeah so the plan starts at $7 a month with uh each
service costing $5 or $15 for unlimited
use of all four oh there we go so even
then though we're talking about
2022 when you could sign with like for
example whose run on the Sprint network and
really just have a complete pay as you go solution like you know how their
billing works right yeah the only thing is I always forget about Ting because we
don't have them I know we don't have them but they are they are sponsor of
the show and they are awesome and they are legit whenever I think about like
planning out cuz I I still have to switch carriers or do something yeah you
have to do something cuz I need that phone back at some point and but like oh
my God they all suck I don't know what to do they all suck I know Ting come to
Canada all right speaking of things that don't suck or that do suck wait here
this doesn't suck so krych has secured a
new source of capital to take care of itself in the longer term so this was
posted by Pokemon trainer 4 and
basically the whole history here so the original articles from PC Gam
let's just fire fire this up the whole history here is that rumors were
circulating that they were out of money and then they denied it and then sort of
somewhere in the mix here employees stopped showing up for work and filed
grievances about not being paid allegedly yeah and then krych came out
and said yeah we're in a bit of a pickle not allegedly officially and then now
basically all they're saying about this is we've got got the money um we're
making it we're in a transitionary stage right now so we're moving from you know
a game developer to a I don't know to to
online publisher Someone pasted some
other sentence in the middle of the one I'm trying to read to online publisher
they have the funding they need uh no further details will be
communicated radio silence and the only article I could find that wasn't from
exactly a week ago was from 5 days ago saying they followed up and heard
nothing so I'm guessing that's the last we're going to hear of it they are moving to be an online publisher and
there we go so that's it so cry's not going anywhere I mean this was mostly
like I wasn't too worried about getting a sequel to Rise Son Of Rome um so this
was mostly a worry because I was looking at all the games that are going to be
running cry engine over the next little bit kind of going well cry engine's
great um a lot of these games are great and if they could keep using cry engine
that would be great be great yeah so it looks like that's happening
um they're going to be fine at least that's what they say but it wouldn't be
the first time they lied I guess so I don't know what to make of any of this I
wonder if it's a ditch effort to keep more employees I don't know but what's
the point of keeping the employees if you can't afford to pay them anyway yeah it's true but I do wonder about stuff
like THQ where they had to close down but they had like two or three fairly
major game launches like right after they close down like if they able to
hold out for two more months they might have been totally fine well I mean they
they tried remember they did that crazy Humble Bundle um I almost wonder if they
had communicated why they had to do the Humble Bundle if more people would have
jumped behind it if more people would have jumped on it or if people would have contributed more to it yeah um
speaking of humble bundles is that square Humble Bundle still running I
think so think so uh so there's a square sale on our Square Enix I guess sorry
Square Enix sale on Humble Bundle and I was a little bit Mis yeah here it is um
I was a little bit misled because no wait there's a Humble Bundle no there's
a there's like a sale as well I think it's a different thing anyway the point is it's in the Humble Store uh the point
is that I was misled I was told that it had Final Fantasy 6 in it but it was
actually Final Fantasy 3 which is what six was called for the North American
release I think someone was confused anyway they do have seven and eight for
PC I believe they also have three for PC they got Tomb Raider in there which I'm
finally playing now I'm actually really enjoying it so far I'm playing it on my
shield it's good same place I play all my games although I'm playing it through
on The Shield tablet I'm determined to play through an entire game on Shield
tablet and see how it goes um speaking of playing through an entire game on
Shield tablet uh remember those controllers that we got with the back
buttons yes I spent some time which ones
um the ones with the mushy back buttons mushy back buttons yeah the rear buttons
that you could circular ones what the like circular back buttons yeah okay
yeah so so so those controllers I was using the Xbox One one with Tomb Raider
on the PC for a little bit it's not as bad as I thought the mushiness actually
helps you grip the controller without actuating them my problem was my hand
was too big so it was pressing in like here I'm like I can't I'll spend some
more time with them and we'll talk about them more on the show later um speaking
of talking more on the show later uh there may not be me on the show next
week because my wife's due date for the new baby is actually four days from now
so I could get a call right now and I'd
be like peace and uh and that would be that so that's happening real soon it's
going to be an entire oh let's do a straw pole it's going to be an entire
week of Luke Tech tips you guys because
don't have backlog of your stuff maybe a little bit but it'll otherwise be you so
okay so we're going to have super happy we just lost an entire video of mine
cool yeah woo that's good news
okay how excited are you for Luke Tech
tips week um um I believe on April fools it
was called slick Tech tips not very a
bit not at
all okay so let's go ahead and post this
straw poll here guys remember do not click on straw Poes that weren't posted
by me or a mod in the Forum or the
twitch chat it's called whatever there
you go guys start adding your uh we
should make the whole twitch chat just a giant Forum thread oh I'm logged in as
you so there's like a whole bunch of lch spamming CU we're both doing it
y all right so let's go ahead and throw those results up on the screen so you
guys can watch them be tabulated as they come in what's our next topic here our
next topic is let's leave that one that was boring
how about the Blackberry one okay okay so Blackberry is evidently the only
phone maker that can meet the German Ministries security standards so I guess
they're the only phone maker that can protect you against the NSA a little
bit I don't know I think that's it seems like what Germany's security standards
are kind of based on right now it does kind of seem that way ever since that uh
ever since what what did they do they tapped into her phone yeah it's like
genius way to make friends guys I know way to make friends okay so do you want
to do the run through here uh the ministry uses 3,000 encrypted Blackberry
devices outfitted with technology made by German security firm seu smart I like
how so many different security firms just put seu and then something yeah I
know it's like good job being creative
guys hopefully you're creative with your technology I would call mine Su you
all it's the most secure all
wow yeah theirs is the smartest though
smartest but mine's mine's the highest SE most smart most
smart seu smarter SE smarter um I don't
know it makes sense I I don't know if this is going to be enough for
Blackberry really I think again they need to just really focus on software
Solutions cuz if even if they could make like an offshoot of Android that had
their technology built into it I think people would be more acceptive there's a
lot of problems with developing Fork versions of Android though Google
doesn't like it that's true and they basically make life difficult for you or
any OEM who builds devices for you like it's really bad yeah so in order for
them to and the other thing about Android is that no matter how much you
lock Android down no matter how much Samsung wants to talk about how secure
Android is with it's it's yeah it's not
it's by its nature very hackable it's think like a dual boot style though
you know the work at home system M like what if the work system was a completely
different OS on the device but then if you totally broke
through Android you can still get to the file manager and access that and you look at how pissed off and uh Google was
about running Windows and Android on the same oh notebook that's true so is that
going to be any different if you want to run Blackberry OS and Android on the
same phone I don't think so probably worse probably worse I would think so y
yeah um so what else do we have any other information about them
the the handsets incorporate SE smart micro SD cards that act as a separate
hard drive oh my goodness this is what I was trying to talk about U for
confidential information that can't be access can't be accessed by hackers that
is don't say that that was dumb what are
you doing
smart like you not that smart um they're
sold by the German company for
€2,000 okay so if Blackberry gets Cuts that's how comes back okay makes sense
um German publication build recently reported that the country's interior
Ministry was looking for to buy 20,000
yeah if blackberry's getting a cut of that that'll help a little bit not
enough to like save their company but hopefully enough that we can still have
that Canadian company but at least this is some good news for them and then
other people might be interested because they might hear about this I mean if Blackberry were to manage to become the
de facto standard for government use again how quickly would corporations
corporations and anyone who's scared of the NSA and then once they gain that
share back how quickly do we start to see some app developers give two cares
about it I mean mind you you can you can load Android apps now anyway but the
point is how quickly would it turn back into something that actually matters I
don't know cuz honestly I really liked the the social thing on BlackBerry yep
and it was it was actually really usable I I think it would be interesting to try
Blackberry again now that the Google Play Store is just straight up inside of
it because because I think that would actually make things quite different
there's not a ton else on here that's about all there is to say so
let's go to our straw pole results shall
we so 48% of you said wet uh 36% of you
said vary with 9% of you saying a bit 5%
of you saying not at all and 2% of you
saying not veryy so mostly people seem to be uh seem to PR pretty down for the
whole wet Luke's Tech tips about uh the
game controller what's up oh oh yeah we should definitely move on to the game
controller so this this is a Kickstarter
that let me tell you guys I was oh what
why is this post gone on the Forum what did someone
do okay game controller here we go okay
so here's the article from end Gadget and you know what you know what makes me
really upset about that look how well search optimized we were on this
post and that post is gone anyway so
here's the article on end Gadget the game controller that trains your pelvic
floor muscles so uh the package will
come with an iOS or Android game called
Alice in continent which is a joke
because incontinent means you can't control your you know latter and stuff
so basically the idea is that by doing keegle exercises you will be able to
improve the strength of pelvic muscles which is great for pregnancy and
improving Sensations in women um last
time I checked the kickstarter really wasn't doing very well it's not making
it it hasn't it hasn't gotten better is it not making it I think it's going to
not make it by a fair amount that is a bummer oh only 12 days to go they should
have worked on their kicker exercises exercises so they're uh let me
see where it is yeah so Tatiana Kenova
kova okay okay whatever Guinness World Record holder of pelvic strength kova
says that uh sure so the point is that this will help you exercise and uh and
be better at that I mean it's a real thing it's like a healthc care
professional you know thing to oh who
did this did someone
oh apparently that thread was moved to spam so some moderator on the Forum is
getting in trouble I've seen a lot worse stuff than that make its way through all
right so let's move on to our next topic slightly more Tech related hopefully we
haven't completely destroyed all of your guys' uh eyeballs over there you I think
that thing's fine but whatever I don't think there's anything wrong with it me
neither all right who moved
that okay let's move on to our next topic though all right so in NVIDIA has
evidently found a way to quadruple
display performance in low res LCDs kind
of Beast which is pretty darn cool so
instead of using a single higher resolution panel they're actually using
two lower resolution panels directly
over top of each other to achieve pretty much the same effect as a single higher
resolution panel which is like pretty ban is an actually kind of amazing is it
quite as good well no no the answer is
the answer is definitely no but it does make a significant difference so their
researchers disassembled two 1280x 800 LCD panels and rebuilt them into a
single display with slightly offset
pixels a filter to weed out polarization conflicts and a bit of customized
software to force the display components to work in tandem they're calling the
Prototype a cascaded display and tests
it has quadrupled the spatial resolution of the original panels which is pretty
darn cool now to be clear guys resolution actually refers to what your
eyes perceive not a set of numbers so
resolution can double without you know
doubling the number of pixels or quadrupling them or whatever it is as it
were brain explosion brain explosion um
pretty cool I think it's cool because hopefully this will lead way to stuff
that we're seeing from like segue to the Intel thing the Intel shark I mean it's
not perfect the viewing angles aren't great and the brightness is definitely
reduced uh it's not the first time I've ever actually used a display that has
stacked panels the last time I used one was an IED 3D 3D gaming display it was a
1680 by 1050 I always forget that R 1680
X 1050 3D display that had two different
um panels that and then it had um instead of uh active shutter glasses it
had polarized filters different ones on so that you could only see one of the
panels which in theory it didn't work very well but um I'm just hoping this
will lead to thinner things behind displays that would be nice ah very cool
though I mean we H pixel density is so
high at this point and it's not so I mean okay for things like Oculus I can
see it mattering for things like a desktop display though I really don't
think manufacturing two lower resolution panels is going to be something that
makes any sense in the near future I don't even Oculus you don't think so not
really cuz they need much higher raw resolution panels and it's really close
to your face so you're going to notice any weirdness yeah so I think they just
need like a super baller panel speaking of super baller panels and Oculus you
want to take this one sure posted originally by dri W sorry I had to get
that in go ahead no worries I fix it ripped apart a I had to get that
in sorry go ahead um I fixed it ripped
apart of DK2 delicately not ripped it apart they nicely took apart of DK2
sometimes they rip things apart do they sometimes
really oh god um hey if we get to see
the insides that's cool I'm not going to tear mine apart but they found as you
can see here uh maybe not that one yeah
this is the interface yeah but can you see the one where it actually shows like there we go it is a you sound like uh
what's the sponge thing SpongeBob oh I actually have never watched
SpongeBob I don't know if I've seen a whole episode but I've seen his laugh
that remind me of his laugh anyways this is a panel from a Note 3 down to as you
can see holes for the things on the Note 3 I believe it even has a hole for the
home button um like yeah directly taken
from that but that's cool this is again a dev kit so I believe it was said
somewhere at some point in time that once the consumer version comes out they
will be having their own panels for everything but as of right now they're
just like easy yep yeah because we need
you guys to be able to work on it and this thing had an AMOLED panel and good
resolutions and all that kind of stuff so totally good yeah so 1080p display
and then they actually overclocked it a touch to run at a higher 75 HZ refresh
rate so something of note guys is as
much as people might want to debate can you see 30 FPS or 60 FPS or whatever
else uh from personal experience even overclocking a panel a little bit past
60 HZ does make a big difference going from 120 to 144 frankly I can't tell but
going from 60 to 72 which is as far as I
got my old Samsung 305t my old 30-in monitor that my cat jumped on I never
actually got to use it like that cuz I wasn't using it at the time that we did
that how to overclock your monitor thing and then my cat broke it before I
finished building my system so I never actually got to game on it at 72 Herz
but that was as far as I got on it and made a significant difference so um well
he he like he tested it he just didn't get to yeah anyways um yeah I don't know
it matters my favorite thing is the low persistance which you can notice a lot
once I get you sitting down with both of them side by side it's interesting to
get into a certain game where you have to like whip your head to the side and
there's text and interface elements and stuff and with dk1 it'll look like
complete mush and then with DK2 it's very solid because a low persistence
thing is turning off the panel between
frames so that it isn't persisting on the screen for too long but it does it
so quickly that you don't notice right that actually helps a lot really really
good the high resolution and low persistance helps a ton we'll have a
video on that at some point in time we're waiting because I got mine
actually still relatively early before some devs are even getting theirs so
most of the big devs already have theirs obviously but it's taking a while for
everyone to move sdks to sdk4 which is where you get support for
the the camera and DK2 is kind of like automatic detection mode instead of just
screen extension mode um so we just yeah
kind of have to wait for that to be fully implemented so we can actually try
a whole bunch of different things Cu uh my idea for the video is to sit down
pretty much everybody in the office and have them try gaming normally game with
dk1 game with DK2 and get their thoughts on the comparisons of the three and
that's not really going to work if we only have like a couple Tech demos and
maybe a few other things because I want to get some very specific games running
on it so yeah that video will be coming at some point when it's doable and
hopefully you're still here yeah let's hope I mean if I'm not here I guess it's
not really the end of the world but uh yeah you guys I'm sure will do a good
job of it without me yay hopefully that's my way of saying a good job of it
better be done because I'm just going to say that's that's his way of saying don't screw
up cuz we're actually going to be doing our first set like I'm I'm determined to
make Media Group as much like a real company as possible so I'm I'm doing
performance reviews with everyone when I get back I actually borrow performance
review no can we all performance review you well there's that's going to be half
of each person's interview is like what
we can do better as well I was going to say we should get the entire company on
one side of the table and then you on the other so it's like the the Surfs
versus management fine but I get to have my
wife on my side too no we will lose that
is not fair that's not how this works she has
to be on our side
no all right what's next all right speaking of being on a side we are on
the side of Dollar Shave Club Dollar
Shave Club is the sponsor that forced
poor Taran to shave his beard we had
some of you happy about the beard shaving we had some of you extremely
upset about the beard shaving we should probably get a straw pull going straw
pole I was frightened were you happy or upset about taran's beard sh as one of
the options anyway so Dollar Shave Club what's the point if you guys aren't
already familiar with them is they for less than the price of going to the
store and buying razors with less of the hassle deliver highquality razors
directly to your door your first order gets you a handle and a set of blades
and then subsequent orders will include four of whatever blade type you want up
to their six blade
executive model that is uh pretty darn
executive I got to say six blades is like six more blades than no blades
which is better than not being able to shave your face at all just going to say
and they also have other stuff too so they have Dr Carver shave butter you
could probably shave your face with no blades which goes up you just might not
have that much face left like grind fingernail shave anyway
uh Dr Carver shave butter which goes on clear so you can see what you're doing
they have their new aftershave product which actually Taran tried it smells
quite nice and then finally speaking of things that smell nice one wipe
Charlie's peppermint scented butt wipes for men you know what's funny this like
sponsored bit was probably the one that I felt most awkward delivering at first
cuz I was like really I'm I'm like I'm
talking about butt wipes butt wipes but
you know what having a clean butt is good I mean have you ever sat next to
the person who kind of smells faintly of poo yeah
yeah can you imagine if they smelled a little bit like peppermint instead you
know what I'm really happy about is that is I I would appreciate you know that
like uh you're the real MVP thing is
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new tools and stuff so it gives you full control over the HTML CSS and JavaScript
so that's kind of I don't think it had JavaScript support before I'm not sure
but it I don't think so and that's really nice yeah cool so there's a
there's another thing because I know you're working on a personal site with it right I'm taking more time than I had
originally planned but I like my new idea cool so oh well and I've kind of
dropped that with working on Squirtle version 2 right Have I Told yeah I've
told you about some of my plans for that yes so he's redoing his personal rig and
his personal website you should make your website about your personal rig
well I'm I'm waiting for it should have photographs and you should like learn
photography to take great photographs I was just going to get Brandon into so
you should learn you know I think we all don't
appreciate Brandon enough I do you know
he's my he's my bro on trips we're Team B man we're gonna bring hold on maybe
you don't appreciate we're gonna bring Brandon in here for for a moment of
appreciating Brandon okay hey Brandon
can you come here for a sec we have to appreciate you
why why okay okay okay here here we have to
bring we have to bring Brandon on for a moment of appreciation we just
appreciate you very much you film all the things edit all the things yep and
he's like scared he even he even came and did like a maternity like photo
shoot for me and my wife cuz he's a good guy good guy Brandon you guys should
follow him on Twitter I can't remember your Twitter handle _ the intern I want
to change it I want to change it now the
reason I haven't changed it is because when we ordered business cards yeah
that's what was on the business card and I have what is it 500 business cards
that have that Twitter handle on it been waiting to change it I have the other
one I want though so that's okay you got packs coming up so you can give out a
bunch there and then uh we've got CES
coming up you should give out the rest there just hand them off to someone just
take them all so I can order people's booths sleep en tire no one will
forget and then I change my Twitter handle and they they they can't find do
you like the business do the business card exchange
but give the guy a hundred here you go so it's actually worse to give out all
the business cards before you change the Twitter handle maybe tell you what why
don't you change the Twitter handle I'll buy you new business cards we'll call it
a great all right thanks Brandon now he's back to editing all the things if
you oh yeah I was going to ask him to close the door cuz I don't ask him to do
enough apparently so you're just going to you're just going to monopolize
Brandon's time and have him take pictures of your computer for you all
right well we gave him some appreciation for it at
least yeah so now we don't have to feel bad but yeah I wanted to I have I
started building my Squarespace site and I was like okay a lot of these layouts are honestly optimized very well for
having a lot of photos which is yes very Visual and then I was like I don't have
any problem I was like when I build my new
rig set up I'll get photos you know what I didn't even mention speaking of new
rigs our build guide that we did where Brandon stayed at the office with me
until 3 in the morning filming so that
was a uh I think taking out the meal breaks I think it was like a 15 or
16-hour day or something like that like some ludicrous winner yeah it was good
though we got the build guide done which is what it's all about all right well that was fun uh
let's move on to rumors shall we okay so first rumor is that the
GeForce GTX 880 has been
certified there's a question mark at the end of the headline here have we had an
880 rumor every week for last month oh
possibly yeah yeah that sounds about right so this is from video
card.com and the word on the street is that the GTX 880 will be coming sometime
in mid September they're apparently planning a big event for all major press
members from around the world and uh
prepare for boring Maxwell architecture presentations I wonder if video
cards.com is getting an invite yeah what the hell live streaming
new hardware and Jensen explaining why you should buy g-sync monitors and
shield tablets I wouldn't be surprised
if if he explains that we should buy gsync monitors and shield tablets especially cuz Shield at least the
concept I'm not that sold on the tablet personally not because it's a bad
product I'm just not a tablet user um love Shield and now that I'm using the
Rog Swift as my daily driver did I even tell you that uh no yeah I'm us I kind
of expected you to I'm using the r Swift every single time a new ASUS monitor
comes in you just take it seriously when was the last one you
didn't that's the answer I was looking for hold on hold on wait if I go back
far enough okay at my house right now I
have the pb287q so I have the 4K I have
the pa27 9 Q so that's that beautiful 10
bit panel that's like pretty baller that
you shouldn't have and then I have the r considering we have a Quadro here and
Brandon could use a 10 bit panel for editing no Brandon can't have a Quadro
yet he's going to get a Quadro when we do the upgrade is he then getting a 10
bit panel no I'll keep
it so next time a video doesn't look perfect and you know Brandon edit it
blame him uh you know what though we are going to do a bit of a monitor Truffle
Shuffle because we have that BenQ uh CAD one that 32 in that's actually using a
pretty nice VA panel so someone will get that that's okay for pretty rudimentary
color work actually pretty decent color work then we've also got um like are we
making sure everyone has at least one we're making we're going to make sure everyone has at least one pretty
accurate pretty accurate monitor is everyone getting quadros then uh no yeah
okay uh Taran is going to get a third monitor probably though he's asked for
one uh just because he his work flow
would make it a lot easier for him if he had a script above we're going to we're going to be covering all this of course
in the whole room water cooling upgrade thing speaking of
which what is this we had our first shipment of supplies arrive for it hold
up I can move mine you can here do you want to hold this up sure just kind of
hold it so so they can here it's okay to have it sort of tilted but not all the
way okay here we go okay so oh
yeah here we go uh you can go ahead and I think they'll get the
point yes
friends a master carton of Titan black
editions you know that graphics card that we never got one to do a review
about I know right now we have a lot you
know what's funny I got the okay okay this is great great story I got an email
from Acer today cuz did I already tell you that we're going to get a sample of
their upcoming 4k gsync yes okay so the thing about gsync is
that it works down to I oh shoot I
believe it's 25 frames per second 24 35
something like that if you dip too low it stops working because you can't leave
an image on the screen for too long it starts to degrade and you have to
refresh it so I'm sorry I don't remember exactly what that frame rate is but Acer
had some concerns about me reviewing their gsync monitor because if you don't
have a graphic setup that cannot dip below that you're going to see some
tearing and you're going to see some visual anomalies that otherwise g-sync
completely eliminates so they sent me this email they're like do you have a
system that's powerful enough to drive this monitor in games and I'm
like really really yeah I think I do I think
so I think we'll be okay I think we'll be all right so what we'll so what we'll
probably do is uh dual 780 Ti what I
expected go go to go to town on it should be good I may actually have to
borrow a rig just to do my review of that monitor cuz I've got a single Titan
in my machine that might not be enough you might need two monitors to drive
modern games at like CU you want to be
in that you don't really want to fall below 45 FPS cuz when I was at the demo
it looks pretty darn smooth down to about 45 your Titan's water cooled in
right it is you have quick disconnects on it no that's one thing I did for my
update right my card is be quick disconnected with those cool an black
ones oh my God anyway Sor is that where those all went no oh I got my own okay
where are they all oh they're on the bench that's right okay um anyways they
were like stupid expensive but after building them into that bench I was like yep need them um anyways uh what was I
going to say yeah you could have just swapped those in your system but you can just take a bench home yeah yeah I'll
probably just do that what I might do oh I should just swap a Titan black and
then bring the Titan here it's not that much slower someone can have a Titan
Brandon will never know the difference no you just had an appreciation thing
let's take advantage of Brandon no he should get a Titan black he should get a
Titan black Taran Taran edel and Brandon all need to get at least one each
there's five fine you can't take one of
those from all right so we never actually managed to talk about any of
the 880 rumors so the rumor is it's
going to be 4 gigs of RAM with a 256-bit interface uh we should apparent ly also
expect 8 gig models According to some leaked pictures um the rumor is that it
might not be the fastest card out there but it won't hurt your wallet too badly
so we're not going to see a flagship card launch at you know $7.99 or a
$1,000 like the Titan black speaking of hurting your wallet um crackling
packages do not make that easy yeah I know right it's twitch chat telling you
to do bad things again um however Etc etc etc so it's
basically a gk104 replacement according to the rumor on vide
cards.com but based on you know how
efficient Maxwell is based on how big we think the Chip is going to be it's
pretty safe to assume it will sit above 780 and maybe even above 780 Ti in terms
of performance so this could be a pretty darn ex uh exclusive card exclusive
pretty darn exciting card they're not making very many you have to be a part
of Team Green to get one
is team red yeah yeah that's a real thing I was that's why I was oh were you
making fun of team red oh okay well I wasn't making fun of team red I was like
the only thing about team red that kind of bothered me was AMD inviting me to
join it the Twitter pictures where no no not those hilarious no they invited me
to join it and I was just kind of sitting there I was going like look we
have a relationship and it's good but if I start joining team don't send us
anything to test or Team Green or team blue like if I start joining a team
that's stupid I'm supposed to beti right I might as well just not they
might as well just not send me a card and I'll make a review about how great
it is anyway if I join team red yeah like I I I I can't do stuff like that I
got to be I got to be looking at the product maybe that's what they were trying to do because they don't really
send us things so they're like if he just joins the team let's be fair to
them they send us most things most
there's only one there's only one product they haven't sent us in the last
year and that was the 295x2 so and I believe they did intend
to send one I think it just didn't really happen all right so we expect
rumors of an upcoming graphics card to start circulating but what we don't
normally expect is rumors of a graphics
card that is not coming anytime soon to start leaking um oh first of all the op
for that last topic was Victoria Secret and the op for this one is Big Earl so
thanks Big Earl but this is the room right now apparently even though the GTX
880 is allegedly going to be coming out
uh and this one says early or late October so let's just say late Q3 early
Q4 the rumor is that the GTX 990 will be
launching in early 2015 so the original
article here is from tweak toown so thanks to them for posting this this is
actually a relatively R reputable site
like we're not talking WCC for their audio playing ads except for their oh
shoot are we playing any no no they don't have any audio ads on right now
just be careful because it might randomly attack you even if you don't
refresh the page so they're saying they're we should expect NVIDIA to
completely skip the 20 nmet process going from 28 to 16 nanm which would
mean that if this is a large style chip
there could be a lot more logic in it compared to what we've seen in the past
the rumor is that this will be under the Maxwell architecture and that's probably
that probably pretty much goes without saying and then it won't stop there as
apparently we should see the GeForce 1000 series sometime in the next 18 to
24 months as well although I think that that as far as guesses go is about like
me saying the sun will probably set sometime in the next 5 hours because new
video cards come like eventually yep and
saying something time in the next 18 to 24 months is about
like even if they have to 9,800 it yeah
even if they oh oh I just made some people sad what
if they GTS 250 it oh
oh not good not good sad days all right
so what else we got here today uh Intel is apparently going after our Duos and
raspberry pies in the most um unorthodox
possible way so this guy right here is called sharks Cove it features a quad
core processor that runs at I think it was like 1.3 GHz or something ridiculous
like that yeah it's an atom chip it's got a gig of RAM 16 gigs of storage with
a Micro SD slot you can output via a fullsize HDMI port or an MPI connector
and it's got a usb2 port the only issue here is that it clocks in at a whopping
$300 but it comes with a full Windows 8.1 license yes it does so if you wanted
to Dev for Windows
8.1 on a very small
device I don't actually think this is directly trying to attack Arduino or
Raspberry Pi it can't be the price point isn't right at all I mean Intel's not
stupid they would know that if they need something that's supposed to compete
with that it would have to be 20 bucks or 30 bucks or whatever else and like
from talking with them at CES a big thing that they kept on saying over and
over again when I was looking at their little chipset then or not uh their
little boards then was that they're very Dev focused and in this one they're
talking again it's supposed to be helping developers build apps for different sized systems and different
solutions so I wouldn't be surprised if that's entirely their focus again
speaking of entirely being focused on wait a minute hold on did I miss the op
there nope I didn't speaking of being entirely focused uPorn really has been
they were serious about it they have focused on sponsoring a pro mooba team
so apparently it is happening and um
there you go this was originally posted on the Forum by power consumption junkie
I love that Avatar gtx480 love it I
never noticed that actually I've seen him around but I never really correlated the two so apparently many people who
responded to the original tweet where they were like hey any pro League of
Legends or Dota 2 players yeah we want to sponsor you um apparently most people
came to the same conclusion that we did and that's that if they were to sponsor
team they would likely have to fund them under a different name because you're
not going to have on like you know the main feed for the international that's
like like let's say this team makes the finals and they're being broadcast on
ESPN just done the they could have called them YP and used their little
logo thing the pink Y and black even then I think that's it's a pink Y and a
black PE never thought of that um so anyway the point is that they wouldn't
be able to have you corn logos all over the backs of the shirts of the players
or whatever else so hopefully we see
some kind of uh some kind of you know tastefulness and the way that they do
the sponsorship and I think it's you have giant Pink wise on the front okay
enough of this um
just you know on the on the other side you know
what we try to maintain a certain level of professionalism on on this show my
mom might be
watching I'm sorry Mom okay continue
apparently the contract is drafted so there's that this is also cool original
poster on the line of techtips forum was drick W LG is showing off speaking of
size mattering their 105 in 5K TV yes 4K is not enough for LG
they want a 21 by9 5K TV so it runs at a
whopping 5120 by 2160 we're not even
talking the usual hey it's a new TV standard there's no content for it we're
talking a whole new level of I don't even know of a camera that shoots this
you'd have to shoot at like Red's 6K or something and then crop it and
what what are you doing with that said I do think that moving to 21 by9
especially for very large format TVs makes a ton of sense I just don't think
that um chopping off the top of content or having black bars if I'm going to
spend $120,000 on a TV is going to make S oh
sorry I shouldn't say $120,000 because Samsung's competing model is $120,000
LGS comes in at a mere
$177,000 well hey if if you were spending hundred plus, on
a TV I probably wouldn't care about that little extra or the other way of looking
at it is maybe you spent all of your money and you don't have another 3,000
to spare don't do that on a TV man I would so buy a Tesla Model S instead but
that's a poor people way of thinking what you would buy instead but then you
just said you spent all your money so you oh no I'm I'm past that yeah that
was just a stupid thing I said to get a rise out of you um so that's not stupid
I would way rather buy mod no no I know no no but the point there is that when
when people like us real people discuss
like really expensive stuff and we're like that's stupid it's stupid to buy
that because here are all the things I would buy Instead This stuff's not for
us this is for people who already have all that stuff so we're thinking about
it wrong we're clearly the ones doing it wrong that's all I have to say about
that but yes I buy instead hold on
you're you're pointing they can't well you can't point at that screen
either I can use the mouse I'll use no wrong Mouse wrong mouse that Mouse here
just put your hand
there okay this big bar which is I'm
assuming must be some form of speaker yeah why because idiots you're spending
$120,000 on your TV why why is that
there what the hell what are you
doing is this part of at the bottom here I think it's a cutout I think it's a
cutout it's like what are you doing wow
yeah that's the wall yeah that's bad
super dumb maybe it's not not super fun speaker I don't even well it must be
because the speaker sure isn't here so like why do you even have speakers in it
if you're spending 120 Grand on a TV please say you have some sort of sound
system yeah you should not be using
those people remember the kind of house you might
have if you have $120,000 for a TV is
probably very like minimalistic and beautiful you don't want to go
cluttering that [ __ ] up with like wires
so you should probably probably use the speakers in your TV I mean it's
a it's $120,000 TV so probably the
speakers are badass you could have the wires going through the
wall can't even fully complete the sentence Oh my God you can get that
crazy controller thing that I saw on what was it mono price you have Wall
switches for all your speakers no because that would probably ruin your
wall your Wall's probably very beautiful so it would have to be like touch
detecting lasers in the roof so that you can tap on the wall and there's no
screen there yeah but like the wall would have to be glass so that you
wouldn't like get your oil on it and like Ru it yeah my rich people house
would be awesome I actually planned out what my rich people house would be so if
I just had like millions of dollars and had no idea what to do with it I would
build a house that's completely below ground because I don't know about other
places but here in Vancouver the average lot size has significantly decreased
over the last 25 years so my idea was
that the entire house would actually use Like An Egyptian mirror system style
thing to pull light in from a certain
sort of number of places but then the actual entire top of the property could
be like a a grass field thing so people
would be driving by and it would be like empty lot except there would actually be
a house there so you would access it by opening up like a like a storm cell
style thing well you have a million dollar house yeah a million dollar house
so like you you'd like well okay million dollar house Vancouver not that
expensive you have a multi you have millions of dollars yeah so so you'd be
like beep beep boop on your on your like Smartwatch and then like uh an elevator
would come out of the ground here is your personal
system then you get in so the point of this house would be that I spent all
this money on the house I'm going to save that money in cooling expenses I
wouldn't need air conditioning because I'd be so far down below the ground you
still on about the air conditioning oh my
God to avoid getting air conditioning he
would a build a multi-million dollar house underground so he wouldn't have to
get air conditioning or B water cool every single computer in the office in
one Loop so he can pull air out of the pull that heat out of the room but still
not buy air conditioning and I could still I could still enjoy like the all
that money I'm spending by further investing in things like the best home
theater system ever cuz you could Crank that up as loud as you want and if you
were three stories down that would be amazing cuz you could have it be
completely dark if you put subwoofers like in the walls you could make
everyone think that you're there's manyi earthquakes whenever you watch action
movies that would be amazing it would be so epic great I saw someone on Twitch
chat saying if lonus had a million dollars he would buy streets by 50 Star
Wars headphones to review them yeah I already did that I shot that review
today that review is going to be when is it going up not for a while cuz we have
to film the music video on Tuesday and then it has to be edited which is going
to I'm assuming take like at least a full day for someone so so yeah that
review that review is a thing it's going to be amazing or terrible I'm pretty
stoked for that or terribly amazing or
all right so we've actually don't have a ton of topics this week it's kind of the
summer and uh rather than end the show early we decided we wanted to do kind of
an interactive thing with you guys and talk
about what you think in terms of of raw
going for raw FPS versus where is this
where did it go what is this was it removed I don't
know I can't find it right now the the discussion
topic oh oh I see it okay well okay no
first let's do I just okay this isn't something that's a news item I just
thought this was a really great post by um uh exia exia xya um so basically AMD
released their free sync FAQ so free
sync is the gsync competitor sort of
from AMD where instead of them
developing like a chip that goes in the monitor that allows the display to only
refresh when the video card sends it a signal telling it to refresh instead
this is part of the upcoming Vasa standard for DisplayPort 1.3 so AMD's
naming of it as as free sync because it's going to be part of a Vasa standard
is uh yeah you know kind of a shot at shot at NVIDIA as well as just a way of
sort of making it clear that this is something that's part of an existing
standard sort of um so basically theyve released right so they released an FAQ
about it and the main points here are that DisplayPort active sync which is
what it'll actually end up being called not project freesync enables the
real-time adjustment of the monitor refresh rate so that's good they're
saying it's project freesync is a unique AMD Hardware software solution that
utiliz is DisplayPort active sync protocols to enable user facing benefits
so that's smooth tearing free and low latency gameplay NVIDIA so what's
interesting about that is there's actually no guarantee that freesync is
going to be supported across all graphics cards Intel hasn't commented on
it at all and NVIDIA certainly hasn't
commented on it so we may actually be looking at a completely new set of
NVIDIA certified AMD certified rather than a completely open standard that's
supposed to come you know crashing onto the market and make it so that everyone
can enjoy what is truly an amazing technology which I find a little bit
disappointing but I'm not ready to condemn it yet because if it does turns
out to be absolutely freaking fantastic then that's great but the problem is
that it requires specific Hardware so
you could actually see DisplayPort monitors that do not support free sync
and they could still be dis Port 1.3 so that's another thing that is something
for people who are waiting that are who are holding out for free sync that's
something that they might want to consider aside from how long they will
likely be waiting this was actually a post pulled from ASUS someone from ASUS
posted this let me just find it here we go so blah blah blah blah blah yeah so
someone posted on I think it must have been on their Forum you know any monitor that can get to the gsync upgrade
already has vblank enabled which means it's free sync compatible right and
basically Marshall R shut this down and said no it's not the same it needs to be
enabled in firmware drivers ic's Etc and
it's not ASUS official it's just a little bit of background information on
how product development Works having an industry standard is only a first step
it doesn't make it happen Vasa is on board so it's probably going to be fine
but it likely won't be fast and another
great point that gets brought up here is that it doesn't take into account that the LCD and display guys are already
really focused on other crap right now now 4K 21 by9 touchscreen curve displays
these are all things that they're focused on that are not just catering to
Gamers and are important for everyone
not just Gamers so adaptive refresh needs an Asic display IC physical
redesign it's not just a firmware update that means silicon tape out
manufacturing testing firmware everything typically that's 12 months
from now to get it in their hands and then another 6 months or more of product
Dev to actually make a retail display and that's if all the display IC
manufacturers decide to update for 1.2a instead of just waiting for 1.3 so sorry
1.2a I believe is the one that was going to include it I'm a little bit Rusty I
haven't looked at it recently anyway the point is that in the short term until
further notice ASUS is committed to g-sync and the
pg278q because it's the only technology that's actually on the market in the
midterm they're going to be standards agnostic I mean ASUS is notorious for
just doing everything yeah yeah yeah like you look at you XFX going from
being GeForce exclusive to Radeon exclusive or like EVGA being GeForce
exclusive or whatever ASUS has always
just given the old yeah you want us to only make Intel
boards you want us to only make AMD boards you want us to make what we're
going to make whatever we want so and sometimes that turns into products that
make no sense but a lot of the time it
uh wow we should get the most lest tective
sponsor no we shouldn't should I ask this poll topic no oh yeah sure I was
like why not I thought it was I thought it was should we get uPorn as a sponsor
no we shouldn't oh man all right so anyway I thought that was just an
interesting read through just because not a lot of details have been given by
AMD up till now I think it's great that they're demystifying this for everyone
but unless you've been paying close attention um they've released
information very very slowly starting with that exclusive CES thing from Anand
where they showed it they showed a tech demo working on a laptop all the way up
to now today where we see that the standard has been accepted by Vasa and
then we're going to continue to move forward from there but the point is just we're a long way away um so this was
where I actually wanted to get you guys Twitter blitzing and this was an
interesting topic I'm not sure that I agree with it I just thought it was
interesting I'm going to post this in the twitch chat I want you guys to check it out there we go is am D falling
behind NVIDIA because you could look at a lot of the stuff that AMD is doing
right now and make Arguments for the other way I thought the R9
295x2 was a really great product and it was a real nod to the people that it's
actually supposedly targeted for like I am tired of companies coming out and
saying we've got an Enthusiast grade product and then not actually giving
enthusiasts the features that they want and that they deserve like a water
cooled card isn't too much to expect an
Enthusiast to deal with and I think that
treating enthusiasts like babies is not the right approach either so I mean was
the product perfect no it was you know kicks out a lot of heat and of course
you have to have a case that has an open 120 mm mount for the radiator and all
that stuff but that's okay that's what made an Enthusiast ready but I thought
that this post was uh I thought that
this post was pretty interesting and I want to hear from you guys we're going
to start with a straw poll but I also want you to Twitter Blitz us as well um
and here let me get let me get that straw poll up did you post can you post that in the chat just for me to click on
yeah thank you it seems like the quickest way to share a link oh for
crying out loud I clicked if you scroll up it'll pause the I can get it though
okay we got it so let's put the uh the free sync versus gsync thing on here but
I want to get more from you guys actually I want to know do you do you
value what NVIDIA is doing in terms of things like game stream in terms of
things like Shadow play Al AMD does have
a better competitor for shadow play um as well as what they're doing in terms
of things like g-sync where they're basically saying okay look the standard
needs to exist maybe in the long term g-sync doesn't end up being that
important but if we could bring it to Market two years earlier than the
competitor would that be worth it and just kind of going for it or do you
prefer to see them just focus on making
graphic cards so I would like to uh I'd like to hear
from you guys about that so here's the gsync versus freesync thing so we've got
57% of you saying gsync and I'd actually
feel free to Twitter Blitz about this as well I'd like to hear why gsync or why
freesync I mean reasons that I can think of off the top of my head are gsync is
here right now um reasons I can think of against gsync are NVIDIA has to my
knowledge no intention of opening it up to anyone else whether it's Intel or AMD
um although I think Intel would be more likely um as like a licensing deal but
uh what do you think in terms of like what are the actual Market percentages
for NVIDIA versus AMD right now on graphics cards um like what's steam
steam's things let's let's pull it up let's pull up the hardware survey survey
but last time last time I was in retail I know that in terms of sales numbers it
was about 6040 to 7030 depending on the day of the week for NVIDIA okay yeah
that's what I kind of found fairly interesting is this isn't quite 64
so are we just getting whatever graphics card people have in their
systems well I'm wonder I'm well okay
the one way you can look at it is in a lot of cases whatever graphics card
people have in their systems are what they're going to be voting for in this type of a poll yeah yeah yeah no that
makes sense it's not necessarily even a fanboying thing it's just whatever
they're standing behind in any form all right so here's the latest what I'm
trying to say is that freesync is getting more credit than I actually expected it to right in this poll so the
latest Steam Hardware survey which I think is a great way of pulling Gamers
particularly like ignoring the casuals
um is 50% NVIDIA 30% AMD and about 20%
Intel so if you tried to pull this directly
across uh gsync should have gotten a lot more votes yes so it seems like
generally more people are getting actually behind free sync it's an
interesting takeway from the poll just as an open standard yeah yeah sort of
sort of I mean it's something open if NVIDIA chooses not to support it because
but they choose not to do they choose I
wonder because is is it choosing if you have to specifically enable it on a
hardware level on the graphics card or is that just not having I don't know
we'll we'll have to see how this shakes down it's going to be 2 years before we
have a clear idea of how these two compete in the market yeah that's
interesting I mean locking into locking into my next graphics card upgrade I
have to confess makes me pretty uncomfortable me too it's a big deal you
know like buying a monitor for $800 right and then knowing cuz a monitor is
something I expect to keep for five or six years whenever I make that
investment so you're buying that really expensive really nice monitor on the
notion that you have to buy the right graphics card for the most while I have
to hope that they don't screw up that they don't screw up and have you know
another GTX you know 480 generation
where it's just not that competitive and it runs really hot or not even 480 I
don't think 480 was even the problem let me just try to think right back when AMD
had already refreshed and NVIDIA still only had 285s to compete right there was
like there was a big gap there where NVIDIA just had nothing to compete with
is that why they skipped 300 series I'm not sure I actually don't know the uh I
don't know the story behind that I still don't get that it drives me crazy every
single time I try to explain like graphics cards to people they'll be like you missed one I'm like no no no I
didn't no I don't understand either but no I didn't
all right let's go ahead and have a have a look at some of these tweets all right
if Twitter ever loads yeah that a lot of tweets man Twitter yay Alexander hul
says I hate the NVIDIA only thing although I understand it the argument
that they want to improve the experience they argue that they want to improve the
experience of all Gamers but do the
opposite they also want all Gamers to be
using NVIDIA products and whether I buy it or not part of their whole Spiel when
they origin unveiled gsync was that they were legitimately trying to improve the
experience of all Gamers by pushing this technology onto the market and kind
worked and it kind of worked AMD announced free sync three months later
vesa ratified it a few months after that like For Better or For Worse the ball
wasn't rolling to our knowledge until NVIDIA rolled the ball
so whoa just melee already says posted
today krych UK shuts down deep silver takes over hom front the revolution oh
look at that sorry to hijack someone just tweeted this to me wow this must
have been so I guess they're downsizing if nothing else yeah PC Authority cry
Tech UK shuts down interesting so guys uh here's the here's
the news for that I'm surprised I didn't spot this earlier because it's was 20
hours ago 20 hours no it has zero comments though that's what I mean yeah
that's weird it say it was 20 hours ago maybe it was written 20 hours ago
look whoa weird yeah maybe they wrote it
but they were waiting to uh waiting to publish maybe so there you go crytech
Shuffle staff as home front once again causes developer casualties in recent
weeks unpaid wages Etc has announced it
has acquired casualties on the home front
wow Deep Silver has already agreed to co-publish the game but now owns the IP
and will keep all the work that krych already performed wow
okay on to Twitter blitzing all
right um Cole says yeah I feel like AMD
is falling behind too much I feel like NVIDIA may have the edge except Titan Z
was a big failure Titan Z is a weird product to me it it really felt like um
like just kind of because we can like I
I don't really expected to do so yeah I know I I just I think because you wanted
us to I mean the thing is is if you actually look at the pricing scheme for
it 150% 150% it's about the same as R9
295x2 it's just that r9290 XS are
cheaper than Titans but then you could make the argument that
gtx780 is just as good as a Titan from a
gaming standpoint so it's just not priced for gamers and I and I I get that
I just I wish NVIDIA's messaging was a little bit more clear sometimes like it
was the same with Shield tablet where the first thing they said to us when we got in the room was this is a tablet
first we wanted it to be a really great
tablet for gamers and then all the demos were gaming demos except for the stylist
demo yeah and so I was like you you guys are you guys have your heads so far into
the gaming scene which is good I mean I get that it's just that sometimes
especially in your in your marketing communication you forget that a product
was designed for more than just Gamers like the tablet and it's really
interesting that review has like 2,000
comments on it of people discussing Shield tablet and people anywhere from I
think it's stupid Shield Portable 2 should have been released with Tegra K1
all the way to people being like yeah I actually don't really give any cares about gam stream but this looks like a
great tablet I plan to buy one K1 is fast yeah and I'm a go for it which is
uh which was really interesting to me it's a very wide ranging Market it's not
like a GPU where a lot of people like a very large amount of people are just
like yeah it needs to go quickly like it's actually there's a
huge amount of use cases for it Eric apparently feels like AMD is falling
behind with NVIDIA having the backing to create this new stuff uh bomb mask I
think AMD has dropped the ball on driver support you know what's funny is over
the last couple of years so since lus Media Group formed I just am I'm tired
of NVIDIA has crap drivers AMD has crap
drivers you know what they both have problems I can get just as mad about AMD
not supporting custom resolutions as I can about what's the stupid thing on
NVIDIA's side they support custom resolutions but when we were trying to
get that thing working yeah yeah I'm trying to remember they didn't
support shoot I don't remember anymore it's in our video about super um super
sample anti-ia sing where basically we couldn't get something working because
NVIDIA didn't support one basic feature and AMD didn't support some other basic
feature they both have issues and we've seen them both swing back and forth in
terms of stability within games stability and SLI and Crossfire and for
some reason on my personal rig using uh
GeForce experience I can't download drivers right it'll download like most
of the way and then just be like no connection to whatever server thing I'm
just like K thanks and then there was that issue that I had on the mini PCS
when I was trying to Benchmark where installing installing the proprietary
vendor specific driver off of the manufacturer of the Box's website would
install GeForce experience which would then download a new generic driver that
just wouldn't work on the machine like there's just neither of them is perfect
let's not pretend that they are that's all I have to say um I prefer g-sync
because it's available and it's proven to work I prefer free sync because I
much prefer open to closed how will you deal with freezing temps in Canada in
your whole room one Loop project great question we're in Vancouver so it
typically doesn't fall below around minus5 here
gsync but it's just unfair to not let AMD use it especially because the prices
it's not unfair um totally not unfair
you develop a technology you leverage that technology you don't give it to
your competitor I mean if we created a completely new way of making videos are
we going to just like bring every other YouTuber in and give them a tutorial
actually though well the YouTube SCS a little different I think we share a lot
we actually probably would we probably would but yeah xaver says smooth gaming
now gsync is great I'm getting an Swift
want it now I would go freesync because it's the same thing except a less
expensive option that is a theory we have no idea how much a free sync
monitor is going to cost by that time who knows g-sync may be extremely
inexpensive because of how mature it is because of how long it's been in
production whereas whenever a new product or a new technology dropsens I
mean look at 4K yeah how expensive is it
for the first year what fraction of that price can you expect to pay for it the
next next year so while free sync is still you know hot and new and exciting
and there's that pent up demand from AMD users who have wanted some kind of a
solution but don't want to go NVIDIA I think it's going to be expensive at the
beginning do think is here now and AMD hasn't been specific on performance even
beta benchmarks you can't Benchmark this that's not really the way it works um
basically it just it just does what it does it's not a benchmark thing when the
graphics card is finished rendering a frame it outputs it to the monitor which
refreshes only when there's a new frame that's the way it
works uh Tim says Open Standards over
exclusive J says we need new technology free sync is good because it's here
right now um okay gsync is already here
and almost available free Sync has quality loss that's actually something I
wasn't aware of with freesync so I would have to look into that a little bit more yeah do you think is better because I
use it right now and it's amazing all right fair enough
Quantum it really is kind of amazing I have no extensive use with it uh I
should I should I should lend you the Swift I wonder why well the other
monitor got taken apart by the ncx tech tips team and they haven't put it back
together for me yet I told them I'm not putting it back together so they need to
put it back together for me and they just keep dragging ass on it all right
Ruck do says I'd rather see a video card company focus on video cards I can do
video recoding and streaming with other things better interesting point but what
you uh actually you know if we give valve a little bit more time to build
you know an Android version of steam we could could see in home streaming show
up on uh on Android without NVIDIA game Stream So maybe Ruck do has a point if
we're willing to wait a little bit longer maybe we don't need any of that stuff I already have a g-sync monitor so
I couldn't really vote any other way um amintha says no I don't think AMD
is falling behind NVIDIA and AMD are focusing on different things and that
will both be important to improve the industry I mean something that we didn't mention at all is mantle um mantle is
coming for a lot of games more than I would have expected
back when they first announced it um let me just see if I can find the list of
upcoming games I find when most people guess the guest is far too low which is
a good thing actually because then they'll be coming out with more so
hopefully there's actually something you're interested in yeah here we go so
here this is from videoc cards.com so we've got games that are here now so
that's uh Battlefield 4 Thief Sniper Elite 3 not quite not yet available with
mantle as well as Plants Vs zombies Garden Warfare we've got games that are
unreleased but have confirmed mantle support Star Citizen civilization
Mirror's Edge Battlefield Hardline Sims 4 like big deal game if you don't like
the Sims The Sims is huge yeah just just
it's important deal with it it's all we have to say and then there's unreleased
with mental support pending and there's a bunch of other really interesting
stuff in there Sleeping Dogs Grand Theft Auto 5 like all this crazy stuff I guess
for me the thing that I need to see is I need to see how mantle actually ends up
stacking up against Direct X DirectX 12
yeah so and I mean people thinking that
mantle spurred on Microsoft to bring
direct X12 to Market guys that's not what happened direct X12 has been in the
works for quite some time already it's not it's it's not like Microsoft sudden
this is what we kind of thought at the time because we just knee-jerk reaction
it it's not like Microsoft hadn't been listening at all it made sense with the
evidence that we had at the time yes in the in the in with the release schedule
information that we had at the time it kind of made sense but no they've been working on directx12 for a long time it
is a lower level API and it is going to bring some real improvements um so it
remains to be seen which is going to be more important moving forward and who
knows openg is in the mix as well
but at least they're kind of like the g-sync thing at least AMD is pushing and
going okay well if we can have mantle support a year earlier than waiting for
the rest of the industry to catch up then hey we can do that we can deliver
better performance to our users and especially with buying more expensive
potentially somewhat proprietary monitors I see this as much more
impactful than G freey anyways which gser freesync seems to be the big versus
conversation but those games coming out with mantle on them I think might
actually be a big deal if it turns out to actually be a big deal for Lima says
AMD May release something big soon I don't know maybe um I was supposed to
have a call with them this week and that didn't happen so I don't know anything
uh Delon says I want them to wait and release something substantial instead of
these gimmicks I don't like apple but take notes from them interesting wait
and release something substantial so is what you're saying that you would like
to see them wait for a new graphics card to
release a new technology alongside entirely sure yeah I don't know cuz I
mean I like seeing stuff like you know directx12 compatibility announced like
you know retroactively for previous graphics cards or you know stuff like
game stream or or some of the new stuff that they did with Shield tablet that's
now coming to Shield portable I mean all that kind of stuff I I love to see the
technology just continue to roll never mind new products yeah
um free Sync has been patient since 2008
so NVIDIA is behind and used AMD stuff not really how it works Tech news um the
one with the product on the Shelf in the store is first yeah like anyone who's
Watch Pirates of Silicone Valley we shipped first it doesn't
matter so this is interesting in a lot of countries NVIDIA and AMD are not that
price competitive but usually it's the other way around where NVIDIA asks for a
bit more of a premium for their products so I'm not sure where you're from The
Lion gamer NVIDIA definitely has an edge with new steeld tablet but fell a bit
behind with Titan Z okay fair enough AMD
will fall behind because of the GTX 880 and 880 we don't know anything about
these cards yet if these are what we think they might be marginally better
performing Parts with better power consumption they're not exactly going to
turn the market on its head a lot of Gamers don't even look at power
consumption or noise when they shop for a graphics card they look at an FPS
chart and in that respect AMD performs
very well from a price to Performance ratio standpoint Raptor adds some
features NVIDIA has but AMD UHD but it
is too bloat weish yeah Raptor I know I know the game okay they they said they
have a new update it's either coming or it just came that's supposed to be way
better they asked us to check it out so maybe we'll have a look at it at some point yeah uh just I'll have a look at
it on a drive that I fully intend to just like multi like what is it called
botin nuke so oh maybe we can have a look at AI sweet lower at it oh god um
patalo Jones I just want all video cards to come with back plates installed yes
please oh my goodness you man yeah dog
yeah all right well all I agree um I think that is almost it we have one more
thing to do before the show ends unless you had something else you wanted to
mention do we have any other rapid fire topics oh yeah we have two more things
two more things so first up okay there's
this guy right there's this guy he has this like YouTube channel or something
we need everyone to be attentive here for a sec yeah we need everyone's full
attention let me just bring up let me just bring up his email here because uh
this this guy this guy said a thing I think he didn't believe in the power of
the W show audience so yeah I'm I'm I'm
pumping you guys up here
Logan from Tech Syndicate is giving away his car so this is this is already crazy
and then he got even crazier he's hand delivering both his car his personal
vehicle and a gaming PC to the winner
and anywhere in the contiguous United States I think Canada was actually also
included but then the craziest thing he said was hey lonus do you mind
mentioning it on the W show and I kind of went oh yeah no problem dog but you
know um should I should I kind of get everyone to Zerg rush it all at once or
should I try to like spread it out a little bit so they don't all go at once
and he kind of went wo audience come on
they're not going to all hit our site at once sign up for this contest and uh and
you cause any problems with our server so we are going to stress test the tech
Syndicate server because I want all of you guys to go sign up to win a car and
a gaming PC of course if you qualify for the contest so please crash their
website is basically what we're asking I'm saying please go to their website
I'm saying please crash their website but do it by registering and signing up
for the yep wrecked is it down
yeah I kind of knew that would happen oh good work everyone okay guys
seriously though the contest going the contest isn't uh the contest isn't over
now so wait a couple hours go back make
sure you sign up this is a really cool giveway keep trying until you get
through don't wait a couple hours and uh what's really neat about it is not only
will Logan be hand delivering your system but Josh from fractal is going to
be coming for the road trip they're going to be making a video about the whole process
of driving the car and the gaming PC out to you I think it's a really cool
giveaway if able to get to if you're not able to get to the page right now this
is what it looks like uh win Logan's car and a game they can through anyways
because they can sign up on Facebook right yeah they can sign up on Facebook
they can sign up of the entries through Facebook so uh here let me just
see go 18 ways to enter so complete the
entries to unlock 12 more ways to enter so guys definitely check it out I think
this is really cool and of course you know we've worked with Logan not that
long ago and we had that whole successful Highlander thing so we
definitely want to make sure that we're throwing some love is way here and you can win a car you can win a car this is
the coolest package for someone who's like just at their license level yeah or
like a student that's what I mean though because a lot of students are like
working summer jobs so they can get PCS and don't have a car so if you get a car
and a PC all in one drop it's just like oh
actually have like spending money well I don't know if uh I don't know if it's
the most sensible Prize Package because as soon as you get that new gaming PC
you're not going to want to go
anywhere that's a good point actually that is a pretty good point and they
stayed in their dorm forever
forever when I had my mineral gaming PC and I was at um university living in
dorms I didn't even need a car I didn't
have it on the road I could have afforded to insured at that point in time but I was just like n i don't go I
just buy groceries like it's not that big of a deal all right our next crazy
announcement here guys is the winner of
the Rog G550 JK gaming notebook from
Highlander did not respond so we are redrawing it new
winter time see we even called this because they only had one Post Yeah so
like it's highly possible that they just won't come back here we go so let's uh
we'll redraw in real time here guys so here's the post 611 pages so first we're
going to do a random.org and I'm going to try not to do it wrong this time here
we go you did it wrong yeah cuz I had us hiding it in the corner oh I was like
I'm going to do this live so they can validate the results I'm looking here so
I didn't even notice I know Nick pointed it out to me and I was like oh oops so
first we're going to pick a page page eight wow one of the very early entrance
is going to win you can just change your yeah but then I have to type
page yeah I can never remember if it's like a dash or a slasher yeah yeah yeah
all right so here are the potential
winners settigs 333 Josh noodle Eli wood
dedicator Linux user speezy J shadow FR
Javan Deathwing 72 the Gunslinger with
an underscore monop polo 11 Master Wars
Olive with a three and hippo 2626 Mike
theore boss froggy 12 Cole yah hore and
P super one of these folks will be the
winner so let's go ahead and do another random.org this time from 1 to 20 and
actually on the screen
seven seven I don't remember who that was all right let's count down from
seven one two three four five six
Jess another one poost Wonder so it's
technically possible so it's technically possible te that we'll be drawing this
again in a week uh I'm just going to go ahead and why is the oh right cuz I'm
not uh not signed in just copy his name somewhere we also have footage of it
Nick to I'll get Nick to deal with it yeah there we
go winner boom so you'll be contacted
via the Forum and if you don't draw then it'll be bad for you and not for
everyone else we've got someone Leia is awesome in the chat saying I won OMG so
hopefully that's you the totally not similar at all username throws me to
assume that it might not be that person yeah probably not the same person all
right well unless we have anything else I think that's it for the w show thank
you guys so much for tuning in we can go through build logs of the month kind of
can we yeah kind of oh all right hit it
I I've have decided that as I am obviously very terrible at doing it whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa sup you're not on okay cool yeah don't worry um yeah you
want to do that thing yes I do
yeah oh no okay give us this that guys don't worry dog it's all good why is my
phone ringing go away whoever you are your phone is ringing because do you
want to answer it yeah I want to answer it here go for
it do you realize he's at
work it's my
mom you can't figure out how to win the car oh oh I guess you would beig speaker
phone okay yeah here hold on I'll put you on speaker yeah there we go hello
wait there's an echo hold on hold on why is there an echo because I got a delay
on this end oh okay okay you muted us on that end now okay good all right caller
you're live on the W show what would you like to say I went to the tech Syndicate site to
try to have it
die we tried to I was trying to help make it
die but I'm on there but I don't see
where's the contest thing um okay it's the it's the link
down below so I think you have to log in
you want to like them on Facebook like fractal design on Facebook you have to
do a bunch of uh a bunch of Facebook stuff you want to check out the YouTube
link to the uh to the to the car giveaway so the actual YouTube link that
has the video embedded in it at the top of the page you want to check that out
and uh I haven't actually entered I don't think I would be eligible I don't
think I would either so I so I I hadn't actually tried I just assumed it was
pretty self-explanatory but apparently it's it's a little difficult but I don't
want to like them they're the other guys no they're good guys there's nothing
wrong with liking them besides you can unlike them after the
contest okay there that's a good idea
okay oh no all right thank you we'll
talk to you later bye Mom okay oh no all right are you ready
to do builds of the week sure um I think
their sight's back up I think they're all good now I think so yeah yeah all
right so they actually handled it surprisingly well recovery time very
good very good recovery time so I got to give Logan props their site actually I
I'll call that held up like I think if a site goes down or slows down for like a
minute when it's getting hit really hard it's not really that big of a deal that's not that big of a deal so I got
to give them props there all right oh
wait no I don't think it's up oh never mind maybe that's why she can't get to
it okay fewer props anyways moving on um
I guess we need to am I still why does
it do this
sometimes what you doing bro uh sometimes Chrome Will Will just decide
that you are logged in oh I know you can be like sign out and then you load like
a different page and it's like nope I know you're signed in and you don't even
have like other Chrome browsers open elsewhere it's just random all right to
screen we can screen share the screen so as you guys can see
we're looking at the results of the voting thread posted by someone that
wasn't me so that actually got posted and now uh there's there's a small group
of mods that will managing this so that it actually happens um SNF won because
the least surprising things ever happened this time uh because SNF I
think this this might be like his fourth time ending up in build loocks like geez
and like the winning percentage is pretty impressive yeah with a full 37
and a half percent of the votes yeah it's kind of amazing though as I'll
scroll down there to check it out so snaf gotot came in first and then second
place was enthalpy with
Noctua so I'm assuming there is a massive amount of Noctua fans on his so
this is sn's build we're just going to look at a single picture which just like
oh my goodness every single time I see his builds I wish I could personally
bring myself to take the time to plan out all these fittings yeah but just
like it's kind of amazing I there's no way I could do that lot of beautiful
machine kind of awesome really like the
two reses that looks really cool yep and
since you're the one actually screen sharing for a change they can actually
see the mouse yeah when I when I do this
yep oh man he just consistently has
really nice builds what a gorgeous machine I don't even really know what
else to say a lot of times I have like Fe feedback and it's just like no you're
Spectre Pro fans are pretty badass they actually perform reasonably well a lot
of people don't know that they actually have good static pressure and just
generally they're quite quiet they undervolt reasonably well they're quite
excellent fans and they look really nice they look really really nice I I'm not
sure if the build quality of them is quite up to what I would say is like
best think because there's two different yeah they're a two-piece fan and so they
kind of have a lot of flex to them like even when you're screwing them in you can see the whole frame Flex um but
that's really my only complaint about yeah I have some of them in terms of
like 140 mm fans in mind what do we got next NOA NOA by enpy find it that would
have won if I was picking them just because it's called Noctua project blank
has a lot of Noctua fans where is
it uhuh that's something we should maybe
is it actually project blank I don't think so oh that it must be this ah it's
cuz there's single screenshots I'm tripping myself out we're good I got it
so this is the single screenshot that was submitted for this build I do
believe unless this is also his yes it is this is why this is confusing there's
only supposed to be one what are you doing wher um anyways 23 nocas in a
custom Loop all 23 nocas are on external
radiators wow is that just like is that your your personal is that in your
multi-million dollar house no my multi-million house multi-million dollar
house would have um like a like um it
would have a fluid to fluid heat exchanger and then it would have one
Loop that goes underground so that it's actually just cooled by the Earth and
then it would have another loop that exchanges heat with that one so that's how I would get all the system heat out
of my house perfect that's how that would work obviously okay I should have
known I'm sorry duh yeah duh Oops du
that's pretty freaking cool yeah that's badass I like that he's actually like
showing off his rig very in the open I
also really can appreciate those quick disconnects cuz those are like my favorite thing ever now people like
shirt off for Riot I'm sweating so much that if I took my shirt off I would just
be so shiny the camera would like he was oiled yeah because I'm feeling the exact
same way maybe he is yeah oh man this
looks cool I wonder if I want to know if he would do it
differently who with the industrial fans
h because I think with going with this
theme I think he's fully embracing the Noctua of it considering he even called
it that y I don't know I don't think he would do it differently but I would like
to hear from him maybe if he PMS me or something anyways I think that's it for
us all right thanks for tuning in guys I hope you enjoyed the show as much as we
enjoyed the show we'll see you guys next week same bat Time same bat Channel
peace out bye everyone
dang it there we go