1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:08,280 all guys welcome to the W show that show 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:13,160 once a week that's all like 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:15,559 w r Where We complain about things do do 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:20,770 we I I think we sometimes don't complain about things we defin 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,039 when and 6 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:30,840 then all right went 7 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:35,440 nowhere that went nowhere in a hurry I mean we've been we've we've been live 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:40,760 for a minute and we've already had two jokes fall completely 9 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:45,280 flat we're off to a rough start here that was awesome okay do you want me to 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:50,039 start so that you can do your long yes because I will actually do it 11 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:55,280 right phone locking phone unlocking in the states is now actually legal and 12 00:00:52,719 --> 00:01:01,039 they now have $12 Wireless plans so that you can use selective Social Services 13 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,719 not Social Services social 14 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:07,040 there social things that are also services on your phone Social Services 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:12,159 has a pretty specific meaning I'm going to call social 16 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:16,000 services on you no speaking of Social 17 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:19,640 Services and abuse he is getting abused 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:23,360 by the Oculus DK2 which is getting like 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:26,040 zero day patches like multiple times a 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,960 day like well the different like the different games and applications and 21 00:01:27,479 --> 00:01:35,280 stuff are all updating because the backend SDK 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:37,439 for dk1 went up to 0.3 and then for DK2 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:42,520 support they're like you need 0.4 so a lot of things don't really work yay um 24 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:48,200 also it uses a screen from a Galaxy Note 3 which is kind of interesting um next 25 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:51,560 up we've got unsurprisingly GTX 880 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:54,719 rumors are circulating and actually 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,039 surprisingly GTX 99d rumors are 28 00:01:54,719 --> 00:02:03,079 circulating so we'll go through all that rumor mill stuff because I legitimately 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,920 know nothing about either of them yay 30 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:11,039 that's always fun not yay 31 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,039 work 32 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:35,280 yay how's your rap coming uh my rrap is 33 00:02:31,959 --> 00:02:37,480 done actually have you heard it yet no 34 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,840 oh all right well this is you're going to like this all right sponsoring the 35 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,480 show today we have dollarshaveclub.com shave time shave money actually had 36 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:51,239 someone complain about that pun on our last Dollar Shave Club spot believe it 37 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:54,560 or not I didn't make it up so there you 38 00:02:51,239 --> 00:02:57,519 go also oops no that's not the oh oh 39 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:02,239 this is terrible this is bad news okay well whatever there's music now squ spay 40 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,519 Squarespace is the fast easy way to create a beautiful website that works on 41 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:11,480 your computer on your tablet and I'm just going to yell over this music right 42 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:14,400 now because Squarespace is so good that 43 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 it's like 44 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:23,560 loud we do legitimately like Squarespace a lot though to be uh to be completely 45 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,000 clear we we use it both personally and 46 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:31,000 uh and for the business it's good for a lot of different stuff all right us 47 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:34,200 let's kick things off with 48 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,319 Obama thanks Obama no legitimately 49 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:44,000 thanks Obama this is very important uh so this was originally posted by JK snow 50 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:47,400 on the Forum who has 342 posts has a 51 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,040 picture of a girl wearing a lot of 52 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,799 mascara like that is a lot of mascara um 53 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:58,760 anyway more importantly right in 2000 okay I think that uh I think that that 54 00:03:56,239 --> 00:04:02,760 might actually be wrong I believe the law was actually passed in 2012 but the 55 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:08,120 point is that there was a law passed in the US that prohibited users from 56 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:14,760 unlocking their phones users who unlocked their phones could face prison 57 00:04:10,519 --> 00:04:19,120 time or massive sixf figure fines in 58 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,840 penalties which is insane I mean it's 59 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:26,919 insane let's look at this from the carrier perspective for a second okay so 60 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,280 they sell you a contract okay so you're locked in you're going to pay them 61 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,199 however much per month and you're going to use their service and you're going to 62 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:37,160 pay it okay then they sell you a phone 63 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:42,600 now they can either sell you the phone by itself for full ticket price or they 64 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:47,400 can bundle it with a contract and then they can sell you an inflated contract 65 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:51,800 price with a reduced price phone and you're subsidizing the phone with the 66 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,400 contract now either way whether you 67 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:58,120 bought the phone outright and signed a contract with them at a lower price or 68 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:04,680 whether you bought the phone partially and signed a contract to pay an inflated 69 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,960 price the phone belongs to you yeah if 70 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:12,639 you terminate the contract you have to pay the remainder of the value of the 71 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,160 phone that you own or that you owe so 72 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:18,759 why shouldn't you have the right to change carriers well there's a couple of 73 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,759 reasons number one is exclusive devices where they work out deals with phone 74 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:27,080 manufacturers like Verizon for example being the only one with the Droid DNA 75 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:31,639 and AT&T being the only one with the ASUS um pad phone X 76 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:38,800 but that's not a legal thing and who 77 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:42,560 cares and and that's not that's not a 78 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:45,319 legal problem the government the police 79 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:50,840 should not be wasting resources on this shouldn't be involved in this crap so 80 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:56,280 makes no sense basically what's going on is it's effective today it's no longer 81 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:59,680 illegal to unlock a phone in the United States you know what's funny is I 82 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:05,639 actually ran into issues with this myself even though I'm in Canada because 83 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:08,720 I would be seeded us version phones for 84 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:11,759 reviews and I would say yo dog I ain't 85 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,319 got no AT&T up here so I need this 86 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:20,720 unlocked and they'd be like no can do really sorry I won't say 87 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:25,759 who it was but someone did it but that's exactly it how are they going to enforce 88 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:32,360 that rubbish like of course you can do it so okay the good news is that an IDI 89 00:06:29,599 --> 00:06:38,160 iotic law that never should have existed has been done away with but the bad news 90 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,280 is that it actually doesn't mean 91 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,919 anything this does nothing to prevent I 92 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:46,000 I know a ton of people that were already unlocking their phones in the States 93 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:51,520 because like you just said how are you supposed to enforce this anyways so it's 94 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,759 super Dum ridiculous and this doesn't do 95 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,560 anything about phones that are just enforced by the manufacturer or by 96 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:03,599 particularly the manufacturer where the manufacturer is enforcing no unlocking like the iPhone cuz it's also not 97 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:08,960 illegal for them to lock and protect the lock on their phone that's right so it 98 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:10,599 does absolutely nothing um and I wish 99 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:15,720 that this was better news than it was I've seen a lot of people really excited 100 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:19,080 about this news and as much as it's as 101 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,280 as it's at least a step backward from 102 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:26,599 the wrong direction it's not a step in the right direction yet there are 103 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:29,160 countries where these kinds of lockdowns 104 00:07:26,599 --> 00:07:33,680 are illegal because should because it's a consumer protection issue it's it's 105 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:38,360 it's basically an anti-competitive Behavior to go not only am I going to 106 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:42,479 get you to sign a contract that says you can't go with someone else during this 107 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:46,440 time and then we're going to subsidize a phone with that even if you do want to 108 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:51,360 break the contract and pay off the phone I'm that's a brick now so whatever dog 109 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:56,159 and the other thing too is and aside from that even if it was mandated that 110 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:00,000 legally they had to unlock them they're still allowed to charge you for it and 111 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:04,840 there's no limit although hearing Canada I think the average is around 50 bucks 112 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:09,319 yeah yeah and whereas you can get a code online 113 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:14,000 for like six yeah so this this should have well I I wanted to unlock my iPhone 114 00:08:11,479 --> 00:08:19,680 4 and I wasn't able to yeah yeah and that funny thing about that one is that 115 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,720 if I recall correctly it didn't matter 116 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:28,639 that the phone was completely paid off subsidy wise my contract that the phone 117 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:32,760 was tied to wasn't up because that 118 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:35,399 contract changed because I moved from NC 119 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:40,039 owning my phone plan to me owning it and it renewed for a new chunk so I ended up 120 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:44,720 not being able to unlock it within the useful lifetime of that phone oh my God 121 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:49,160 ridiculous kind of ridiculous I gave my brother my old S3 so that he could work 122 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:55,720 with it and try and fix it and give it to his girlfriend because his girlfriend had an ancient phone anyways so he ended 123 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:00,279 up figuring that out and wanted to unlock it so I used my unlock code that 124 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:04,760 I bought for it when we were in Taiwan again and it re unlocked the phone for 125 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,959 free free I had already paid for it but I had done this like two or three times 126 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:13,360 already and it still worked and cost me like $6 when I did it so just in case 127 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:20,519 you're waning on how to do it there's like a billion in one websites that can do it for you speaking of but I've heard 128 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,399 that the unlocking iPhones you pretty much have to get it done through your 129 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:27,800 carrier and it's like super crazy expensive although there's some 130 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,440 jailbreaking thing that you can do but then I I think it's like a lot of work 131 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,760 and a pain in the ass or something or something like that and I think his 132 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:39,600 girlfriend didn't want that done or I don't remember speaking of bogus unlocking codes uh this was actually a 133 00:09:37,959 --> 00:09:46,079 pretty funny article I read this week it's not in our it's not in the do yeah 134 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:49,399 yeah um so shiron Parish Jr allegedly 135 00:09:46,079 --> 00:09:52,279 scammed Apple not once but 42 times uh 136 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:57,240 basically the trick is that you here we go hold on so it's an authorization code 137 00:09:55,079 --> 00:10:01,079 scam and it's apparently amazingly simple so you visit an Apple Store try 138 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:05,360 to buy products with four different debit cards which were all closed by the 139 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:08,680 respective financial institutions when his debit card was inevitably declined 140 00:10:07,079 --> 00:10:13,560 by the Apple Store he would protest and offer to call his bank except he was 141 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,920 just pretending to call someone so the complaint says he would offer Apple 142 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:21,200 store employees a completely fake authorization code with a certain number 143 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:24,360 of digits which would normally Pro be provided by credit card issuers to 144 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:28,720 create a record of the credit or debit override but the problem with this 145 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:33,880 system is that as long as the number of digits is is correct the authorization 146 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:39,440 code actually isn't meaningful in any way it's just a record it's a log yeah 147 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:44,959 yeah so all they had was a record of him approving his own overrides you got to 148 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:50,279 you got to wonder 42 times like this is like 300 Grand at some point do you just 149 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:55,440 kind of go this worked really well maybe I should go to perhaps a different store 150 00:10:53,519 --> 00:11:00,079 like not the Apple Store maybe I should hit someone else change it up a little 151 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:06,160 bit he even hit the same exact storefront twice yeah like dude I mean 152 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:11,480 it's one of those things like hilarious Thief footage is always funny because 153 00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:14,399 it's like what kind of people b& well 154 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:20,120 usually winners right um where they just do this amazingly ridiculous stuff yeah 155 00:11:18,079 --> 00:11:23,279 um my favorite is sorry I'm going to interject here my favorite is the guy 156 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:27,360 that's sprinting through the mall and then runs through the glass door and 157 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:32,360 just like Kap the glass shadow and he just slaps 158 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,079 it to the ground and doesn't move and I was like wow you literally just knocked 159 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:41,720 yourself out spectacularly good 160 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:47,800 job all right what else we got here oh this is more more good news on the uh 161 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,639 wireless carrier front um 162 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Sprint is going to be selling a or is selling whatever a $12 Wireless plan 163 00:11:54,440 --> 00:12:02,959 that connects to Twitter Instagram Pinterest or Facebook 164 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:08,240 okay I think it's a bunch of ores like Twitter or Instagram or Pinterest or 165 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:14,639 Facebook okay so basically instead of buying a bucket of data customers can 166 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:16,839 pay less for just the app that they use 167 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,839 the 168 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,519 most other apps might be added in the 169 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:27,680 future um and this new plan is only available at Walmart and the base 170 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:35,320 offering covers just 20 minutes of talk and 20 texts but with unlimited access 171 00:12:31,199 --> 00:12:37,399 to one of the above social media 172 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,519 platforms um well what I would like to see I think they had something coming 173 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:45,920 let me just have a look I think there was something for uh a music streaming 174 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:48,760 service as well um but the the stupid 175 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:53,160 thing about this is that T-Mobile is already allowing unlimited music 176 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:59,720 streaming service that doesn't count against your data plan so when you use a 177 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,720 service like uh Spotify for example 178 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:07,839 so yeah I just don't really understand 179 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,959 if they enable Skype I could see people using it because you can do text and 180 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:16,199 voice calling through that so if you wanted a really basic phone but then why 181 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:23,519 would you need data so so yeah so the plan starts at $7 a month with uh each 182 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:27,600 service costing $5 or $15 for unlimited 183 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:29,800 use of all four oh there we go so even 184 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,079 then though we're talking about 185 00:13:31,079 --> 00:13:36,160 2022 when you could sign with like for 186 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:41,160 example whose run on the Sprint network and 187 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:44,839 really just have a complete pay as you go solution like you know how their 188 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:48,600 billing works right yeah the only thing is I always forget about Ting because we 189 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:51,959 don't have them I know we don't have them but they are they are sponsor of 190 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:56,000 the show and they are awesome and they are legit whenever I think about like 191 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:00,040 planning out cuz I I still have to switch carriers or do something yeah you 192 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:05,120 have to do something cuz I need that phone back at some point and but like oh 193 00:14:03,079 --> 00:14:10,920 my God they all suck I don't know what to do they all suck I know Ting come to 194 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Canada all right speaking of things that don't suck or that do suck wait here 195 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:19,279 this doesn't suck so krych has secured a 196 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:25,040 new source of capital to take care of itself in the longer term so this was 197 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:27,600 posted by Pokemon trainer 4 and 198 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:31,440 basically the whole history here so the original articles from PC Gam 199 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:35,399 let's just fire fire this up the whole history here is that rumors were 200 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:41,959 circulating that they were out of money and then they denied it and then sort of 201 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:47,399 somewhere in the mix here employees stopped showing up for work and filed 202 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:52,519 grievances about not being paid allegedly yeah and then krych came out 203 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:58,000 and said yeah we're in a bit of a pickle not allegedly officially and then now 204 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:04,160 basically all they're saying about this is we've got got the money um we're 205 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:11,560 making it we're in a transitionary stage right now so we're moving from you know 206 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:14,639 a game developer to a I don't know to to 207 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,000 online publisher Someone pasted some 208 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:20,079 other sentence in the middle of the one I'm trying to read to online publisher 209 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:24,959 they have the funding they need uh no further details will be 210 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:29,000 communicated radio silence and the only article I could find that wasn't from 211 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:32,399 exactly a week ago was from 5 days ago saying they followed up and heard 212 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:38,079 nothing so I'm guessing that's the last we're going to hear of it they are moving to be an online publisher and 213 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:42,079 there we go so that's it so cry's not going anywhere I mean this was mostly 214 00:15:40,279 --> 00:15:48,000 like I wasn't too worried about getting a sequel to Rise Son Of Rome um so this 215 00:15:45,959 --> 00:15:50,759 was mostly a worry because I was looking at all the games that are going to be 216 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:55,920 running cry engine over the next little bit kind of going well cry engine's 217 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,880 great um a lot of these games are great and if they could keep using cry engine 218 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:04,319 that would be great be great yeah so it looks like that's happening 219 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,519 um they're going to be fine at least that's what they say but it wouldn't be 220 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:10,440 the first time they lied I guess so I don't know what to make of any of this I 221 00:16:09,079 --> 00:16:14,720 wonder if it's a ditch effort to keep more employees I don't know but what's 222 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:20,600 the point of keeping the employees if you can't afford to pay them anyway yeah it's true but I do wonder about stuff 223 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:24,959 like THQ where they had to close down but they had like two or three fairly 224 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:29,160 major game launches like right after they close down like if they able to 225 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:33,319 hold out for two more months they might have been totally fine well I mean they 226 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:38,920 they tried remember they did that crazy Humble Bundle um I almost wonder if they 227 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:42,519 had communicated why they had to do the Humble Bundle if more people would have 228 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:49,040 jumped behind it if more people would have jumped on it or if people would have contributed more to it yeah um 229 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:52,519 speaking of humble bundles is that square Humble Bundle still running I 230 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:57,519 think so think so uh so there's a square sale on our Square Enix I guess sorry 231 00:16:55,319 --> 00:17:03,319 Square Enix sale on Humble Bundle and I was a little bit Mis yeah here it is um 232 00:17:01,199 --> 00:17:06,079 I was a little bit misled because no wait there's a Humble Bundle no there's 233 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:12,000 a there's like a sale as well I think it's a different thing anyway the point is it's in the Humble Store uh the point 234 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:16,839 is that I was misled I was told that it had Final Fantasy 6 in it but it was 235 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,079 actually Final Fantasy 3 which is what six was called for the North American 236 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,319 release I think someone was confused anyway they do have seven and eight for 237 00:17:21,679 --> 00:17:27,760 PC I believe they also have three for PC they got Tomb Raider in there which I'm 238 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,480 finally playing now I'm actually really enjoying it so far I'm playing it on my 239 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,559 shield it's good same place I play all my games although I'm playing it through 240 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:38,679 on The Shield tablet I'm determined to play through an entire game on Shield 241 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,520 tablet and see how it goes um speaking of playing through an entire game on 242 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:46,440 Shield tablet uh remember those controllers that we got with the back 243 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,559 buttons yes I spent some time which ones 244 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:52,799 um the ones with the mushy back buttons mushy back buttons yeah the rear buttons 245 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:57,440 that you could circular ones what the like circular back buttons yeah okay 246 00:17:55,039 --> 00:18:02,760 yeah so so so those controllers I was using the Xbox One one with Tomb Raider 247 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:08,320 on the PC for a little bit it's not as bad as I thought the mushiness actually 248 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:12,919 helps you grip the controller without actuating them my problem was my hand 249 00:18:10,679 --> 00:18:16,039 was too big so it was pressing in like here I'm like I can't I'll spend some 250 00:18:14,919 --> 00:18:20,320 more time with them and we'll talk about them more on the show later um speaking 251 00:18:18,159 --> 00:18:25,240 of talking more on the show later uh there may not be me on the show next 252 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:31,159 week because my wife's due date for the new baby is actually four days from now 253 00:18:28,159 --> 00:18:33,679 so I could get a call right now and I'd 254 00:18:31,159 --> 00:18:37,799 be like peace and uh and that would be that so that's happening real soon it's 255 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:44,159 going to be an entire oh let's do a straw pole it's going to be an entire 256 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,880 week of Luke Tech tips you guys because 257 00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:50,679 don't have backlog of your stuff maybe a little bit but it'll otherwise be you so 258 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:57,200 okay so we're going to have super happy we just lost an entire video of mine 259 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:04,559 cool yeah woo that's good news 260 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,679 okay how excited are you for Luke Tech 261 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:13,559 tips week um um I believe on April fools it 262 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:16,720 was called slick Tech tips not very a 263 00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:20,280 bit not at 264 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,520 all okay so let's go ahead and post this 265 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:28,720 straw poll here guys remember do not click on straw Poes that weren't posted 266 00:19:24,679 --> 00:19:32,480 by me or a mod in the Forum or the 267 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:35,600 twitch chat it's called whatever there 268 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,559 you go guys start adding your uh we 269 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:41,640 should make the whole twitch chat just a giant Forum thread oh I'm logged in as 270 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:47,559 you so there's like a whole bunch of lch spamming CU we're both doing it 271 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:51,200 y all right so let's go ahead and throw those results up on the screen so you 272 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:55,440 guys can watch them be tabulated as they come in what's our next topic here our 273 00:19:52,919 --> 00:20:00,440 next topic is let's leave that one that was boring 274 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:07,000 how about the Blackberry one okay okay so Blackberry is evidently the only 275 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:11,000 phone maker that can meet the German Ministries security standards so I guess 276 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:16,440 they're the only phone maker that can protect you against the NSA a little 277 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:20,679 bit I don't know I think that's it seems like what Germany's security standards 278 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:24,559 are kind of based on right now it does kind of seem that way ever since that uh 279 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:30,280 ever since what what did they do they tapped into her phone yeah it's like 280 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:34,559 genius way to make friends guys I know way to make friends okay so do you want 281 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:39,120 to do the run through here uh the ministry uses 3,000 encrypted Blackberry 282 00:20:36,679 --> 00:20:44,640 devices outfitted with technology made by German security firm seu smart I like 283 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:50,159 how so many different security firms just put seu and then something yeah I 284 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,720 know it's like good job being creative 285 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:55,960 guys hopefully you're creative with your technology I would call mine Su you 286 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,600 all it's the most secure all 287 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:07,000 wow yeah theirs is the smartest though 288 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:13,640 smartest but mine's mine's the highest SE most smart most 289 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,679 smart seu smarter SE smarter um I don't 290 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,640 know it makes sense I I don't know if this is going to be enough for 291 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Blackberry really I think again they need to just really focus on software 292 00:21:21,679 --> 00:21:27,080 Solutions cuz if even if they could make like an offshoot of Android that had 293 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,120 their technology built into it I think people would be more acceptive there's a 294 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,320 lot of problems with developing Fork versions of Android though Google 295 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:38,600 doesn't like it that's true and they basically make life difficult for you or 296 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:43,279 any OEM who builds devices for you like it's really bad yeah so in order for 297 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,159 them to and the other thing about Android is that no matter how much you 298 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:53,679 lock Android down no matter how much Samsung wants to talk about how secure 299 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:56,360 Android is with it's it's yeah it's not 300 00:21:53,679 --> 00:22:02,200 it's by its nature very hackable it's think like a dual boot style though 301 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:05,320 you know the work at home system M like what if the work system was a completely 302 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:09,200 different OS on the device but then if you totally broke 303 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:14,840 through Android you can still get to the file manager and access that and you look at how pissed off and uh Google was 304 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,440 about running Windows and Android on the same oh notebook that's true so is that 305 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:21,919 going to be any different if you want to run Blackberry OS and Android on the 306 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:27,240 same phone I don't think so probably worse probably worse I would think so y 307 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:31,440 yeah um so what else do we have any other information about them 308 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,240 the the handsets incorporate SE smart micro SD cards that act as a separate 309 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:38,279 hard drive oh my goodness this is what I was trying to talk about U for 310 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:44,480 confidential information that can't be access can't be accessed by hackers that 311 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,360 is don't say that that was dumb what are 312 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:51,080 you doing 313 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:54,600 smart like you not that smart um they're 314 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,600 sold by the German company for 315 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:03,840 €2,000 okay so if Blackberry gets Cuts that's how comes back okay makes sense 316 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:09,520 um German publication build recently reported that the country's interior 317 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,840 Ministry was looking for to buy 20,000 318 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:15,240 yeah if blackberry's getting a cut of that that'll help a little bit not 319 00:23:12,919 --> 00:23:18,480 enough to like save their company but hopefully enough that we can still have 320 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,480 that Canadian company but at least this is some good news for them and then 321 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:27,760 other people might be interested because they might hear about this I mean if Blackberry were to manage to become the 322 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:32,520 de facto standard for government use again how quickly would corporations 323 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,960 corporations and anyone who's scared of the NSA and then once they gain that 324 00:23:35,159 --> 00:23:40,440 share back how quickly do we start to see some app developers give two cares 325 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,200 about it I mean mind you you can you can load Android apps now anyway but the 326 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,679 point is how quickly would it turn back into something that actually matters I 327 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:52,480 don't know cuz honestly I really liked the the social thing on BlackBerry yep 328 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,559 and it was it was actually really usable I I think it would be interesting to try 329 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,320 Blackberry again now that the Google Play Store is just straight up inside of 330 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:02,880 it because because I think that would actually make things quite different 331 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:08,039 there's not a ton else on here that's about all there is to say so 332 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:14,520 let's go to our straw pole results shall 333 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:18,240 we so 48% of you said wet uh 36% of you 334 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:21,320 said vary with 9% of you saying a bit 5% 335 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,799 of you saying not at all and 2% of you 336 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:30,520 saying not veryy so mostly people seem to be uh seem to PR pretty down for the 337 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:32,880 whole wet Luke's Tech tips about uh the 338 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:37,840 game controller what's up oh oh yeah we should definitely move on to the game 339 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:42,919 controller so this this is a Kickstarter 340 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:45,240 that let me tell you guys I was oh what 341 00:24:42,919 --> 00:24:54,000 why is this post gone on the Forum what did someone 342 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:56,480 do okay game controller here we go okay 343 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,480 so here's the article from end Gadget and you know what you know what makes me 344 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,240 really upset about that look how well search optimized we were on this 345 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:10,360 post and that post is gone anyway so 346 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:16,399 here's the article on end Gadget the game controller that trains your pelvic 347 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:19,679 floor muscles so uh the package will 348 00:25:16,399 --> 00:25:23,360 come with an iOS or Android game called 349 00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:25,919 Alice in continent which is a joke 350 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:31,679 because incontinent means you can't control your you know latter and stuff 351 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:36,720 so basically the idea is that by doing keegle exercises you will be able to 352 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:42,000 improve the strength of pelvic muscles which is great for pregnancy and 353 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:44,440 improving Sensations in women um last 354 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:48,840 time I checked the kickstarter really wasn't doing very well it's not making 355 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,480 it it hasn't it hasn't gotten better is it not making it I think it's going to 356 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:58,760 not make it by a fair amount that is a bummer oh only 12 days to go they should 357 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:07,799 have worked on their kicker exercises exercises so they're uh let me 358 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:10,440 see where it is yeah so Tatiana Kenova 359 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:16,919 kova okay okay whatever Guinness World Record holder of pelvic strength kova 360 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:20,960 says that uh sure so the point is that this will help you exercise and uh and 361 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:26,279 be better at that I mean it's a real thing it's like a healthc care 362 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:29,840 professional you know thing to oh who 363 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:32,320 did this did someone 364 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:36,640 oh apparently that thread was moved to spam so some moderator on the Forum is 365 00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:40,480 getting in trouble I've seen a lot worse stuff than that make its way through all 366 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,520 right so let's move on to our next topic slightly more Tech related hopefully we 367 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:49,760 haven't completely destroyed all of your guys' uh eyeballs over there you I think 368 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:55,039 that thing's fine but whatever I don't think there's anything wrong with it me 369 00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:56,960 neither all right who moved 370 00:26:55,039 --> 00:27:02,919 that okay let's move on to our next topic though all right so in NVIDIA has 371 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:07,039 evidently found a way to quadruple 372 00:27:02,919 --> 00:27:10,200 display performance in low res LCDs kind 373 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:13,159 of Beast which is pretty darn cool so 374 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:19,279 instead of using a single higher resolution panel they're actually using 375 00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:22,000 two lower resolution panels directly 376 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:27,840 over top of each other to achieve pretty much the same effect as a single higher 377 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:33,840 resolution panel which is like pretty ban is an actually kind of amazing is it 378 00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:35,960 quite as good well no no the answer is 379 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:41,000 the answer is definitely no but it does make a significant difference so their 380 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:46,360 researchers disassembled two 1280x 800 LCD panels and rebuilt them into a 381 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:49,200 single display with slightly offset 382 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:52,720 pixels a filter to weed out polarization conflicts and a bit of customized 383 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:58,480 software to force the display components to work in tandem they're calling the 384 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Prototype a cascaded display and tests 385 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,480 it has quadrupled the spatial resolution of the original panels which is pretty 386 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:10,640 darn cool now to be clear guys resolution actually refers to what your 387 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:14,320 eyes perceive not a set of numbers so 388 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,919 resolution can double without you know 389 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:21,320 doubling the number of pixels or quadrupling them or whatever it is as it 390 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,760 were brain explosion brain explosion um 391 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,519 pretty cool I think it's cool because hopefully this will lead way to stuff 392 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:31,480 that we're seeing from like segue to the Intel thing the Intel shark I mean it's 393 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:34,960 not perfect the viewing angles aren't great and the brightness is definitely 394 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,240 reduced uh it's not the first time I've ever actually used a display that has 395 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:45,799 stacked panels the last time I used one was an IED 3D 3D gaming display it was a 396 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:50,039 1680 by 1050 I always forget that R 1680 397 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:52,600 X 1050 3D display that had two different 398 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:59,080 um panels that and then it had um instead of uh active shutter glasses it 399 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,559 had polarized filters different ones on so that you could only see one of the 400 00:29:00,679 --> 00:29:07,320 panels which in theory it didn't work very well but um I'm just hoping this 401 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:14,480 will lead to thinner things behind displays that would be nice ah very cool 402 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:17,080 though I mean we H pixel density is so 403 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,640 high at this point and it's not so I mean okay for things like Oculus I can 404 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:25,720 see it mattering for things like a desktop display though I really don't 405 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:29,360 think manufacturing two lower resolution panels is going to be something that 406 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:34,760 makes any sense in the near future I don't even Oculus you don't think so not 407 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,279 really cuz they need much higher raw resolution panels and it's really close 408 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:44,320 to your face so you're going to notice any weirdness yeah so I think they just 409 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:47,799 need like a super baller panel speaking of super baller panels and Oculus you 410 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,679 want to take this one sure posted originally by dri W sorry I had to get 411 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:59,559 that in go ahead no worries I fix it ripped apart a I had to get that 412 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,799 in sorry go ahead um I fixed it ripped 413 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:06,559 apart of DK2 delicately not ripped it apart they nicely took apart of DK2 414 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:12,080 sometimes they rip things apart do they sometimes 415 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,279 really oh god um hey if we get to see 416 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:19,440 the insides that's cool I'm not going to tear mine apart but they found as you 417 00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:20,640 can see here uh maybe not that one yeah 418 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:28,679 this is the interface yeah but can you see the one where it actually shows like there we go it is a you sound like uh 419 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:32,159 what's the sponge thing SpongeBob oh I actually have never watched 420 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,760 SpongeBob I don't know if I've seen a whole episode but I've seen his laugh 421 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:40,600 that remind me of his laugh anyways this is a panel from a Note 3 down to as you 422 00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:47,399 can see holes for the things on the Note 3 I believe it even has a hole for the 423 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:49,679 home button um like yeah directly taken 424 00:30:47,399 --> 00:30:54,519 from that but that's cool this is again a dev kit so I believe it was said 425 00:30:52,679 --> 00:30:57,440 somewhere at some point in time that once the consumer version comes out they 426 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:02,559 will be having their own panels for everything but as of right now they're 427 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,080 just like easy yep yeah because we need 428 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:08,480 you guys to be able to work on it and this thing had an AMOLED panel and good 429 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:12,960 resolutions and all that kind of stuff so totally good yeah so 1080p display 430 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,559 and then they actually overclocked it a touch to run at a higher 75 HZ refresh 431 00:31:15,159 --> 00:31:20,880 rate so something of note guys is as 432 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:26,360 much as people might want to debate can you see 30 FPS or 60 FPS or whatever 433 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:31,080 else uh from personal experience even overclocking a panel a little bit past 434 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:38,120 60 HZ does make a big difference going from 120 to 144 frankly I can't tell but 435 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,919 going from 60 to 72 which is as far as I 436 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:44,639 got my old Samsung 305t my old 30-in monitor that my cat jumped on I never 437 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:49,480 actually got to use it like that cuz I wasn't using it at the time that we did 438 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,480 that how to overclock your monitor thing and then my cat broke it before I 439 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:58,159 finished building my system so I never actually got to game on it at 72 Herz 440 00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:02,919 but that was as far as I got on it and made a significant difference so um well 441 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:08,480 he he like he tested it he just didn't get to yeah anyways um yeah I don't know 442 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,960 it matters my favorite thing is the low persistance which you can notice a lot 443 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:15,399 once I get you sitting down with both of them side by side it's interesting to 444 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,399 get into a certain game where you have to like whip your head to the side and 445 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,960 there's text and interface elements and stuff and with dk1 it'll look like 446 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:29,120 complete mush and then with DK2 it's very solid because a low persistence 447 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,240 thing is turning off the panel between 448 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:35,440 frames so that it isn't persisting on the screen for too long but it does it 449 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,840 so quickly that you don't notice right that actually helps a lot really really 450 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,159 good the high resolution and low persistance helps a ton we'll have a 451 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,760 video on that at some point in time we're waiting because I got mine 452 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,639 actually still relatively early before some devs are even getting theirs so 453 00:32:49,159 --> 00:32:55,039 most of the big devs already have theirs obviously but it's taking a while for 454 00:32:52,600 --> 00:33:00,600 everyone to move sdks to sdk4 which is where you get support for 455 00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:07,240 the the camera and DK2 is kind of like automatic detection mode instead of just 456 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:08,799 screen extension mode um so we just yeah 457 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,960 kind of have to wait for that to be fully implemented so we can actually try 458 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,399 a whole bunch of different things Cu uh my idea for the video is to sit down 459 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,799 pretty much everybody in the office and have them try gaming normally game with 460 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,919 dk1 game with DK2 and get their thoughts on the comparisons of the three and 461 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,880 that's not really going to work if we only have like a couple Tech demos and 462 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:34,840 maybe a few other things because I want to get some very specific games running 463 00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:38,600 on it so yeah that video will be coming at some point when it's doable and 464 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:42,720 hopefully you're still here yeah let's hope I mean if I'm not here I guess it's 465 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:47,120 not really the end of the world but uh yeah you guys I'm sure will do a good 466 00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:50,519 job of it without me yay hopefully that's my way of saying a good job of it 467 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:55,720 better be done because I'm just going to say that's that's his way of saying don't screw 468 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:59,519 up cuz we're actually going to be doing our first set like I'm I'm determined to 469 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,720 make Media Group as much like a real company as possible so I'm I'm doing 470 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,520 performance reviews with everyone when I get back I actually borrow performance 471 00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:13,159 review no can we all performance review you well there's that's going to be half 472 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,159 of each person's interview is like what 473 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:17,760 we can do better as well I was going to say we should get the entire company on 474 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:24,040 one side of the table and then you on the other so it's like the the Surfs 475 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:29,320 versus management fine but I get to have my 476 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:30,839 wife on my side too no we will lose that 477 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,960 is not fair that's not how this works she has 478 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,480 to be on our side 479 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:47,919 no all right what's next all right speaking of being on a side we are on 480 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:52,079 the side of Dollar Shave Club Dollar 481 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:56,320 Shave Club is the sponsor that forced 482 00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:57,960 poor Taran to shave his beard we had 483 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,880 some of you happy about the beard shaving we had some of you extremely 484 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,359 upset about the beard shaving we should probably get a straw pull going straw 485 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:11,760 pole I was frightened were you happy or upset about taran's beard sh as one of 486 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:15,480 the options anyway so Dollar Shave Club what's the point if you guys aren't 487 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:19,520 already familiar with them is they for less than the price of going to the 488 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:24,920 store and buying razors with less of the hassle deliver highquality razors 489 00:35:22,359 --> 00:35:29,560 directly to your door your first order gets you a handle and a set of blades 490 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:36,200 and then subsequent orders will include four of whatever blade type you want up 491 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,200 to their six blade 492 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,680 executive model that is uh pretty darn 493 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:47,720 executive I got to say six blades is like six more blades than no blades 494 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:51,359 which is better than not being able to shave your face at all just going to say 495 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:55,079 and they also have other stuff too so they have Dr Carver shave butter you 496 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,880 could probably shave your face with no blades which goes up you just might not 497 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:04,760 have that much face left like grind fingernail shave anyway 498 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,640 uh Dr Carver shave butter which goes on clear so you can see what you're doing 499 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,880 they have their new aftershave product which actually Taran tried it smells 500 00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:17,960 quite nice and then finally speaking of things that smell nice one wipe 501 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:23,079 Charlie's peppermint scented butt wipes for men you know what's funny this like 502 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:29,839 sponsored bit was probably the one that I felt most awkward delivering at first 503 00:36:26,359 --> 00:36:33,079 cuz I was like really I'm I'm like I'm 504 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:35,560 talking about butt wipes butt wipes but 505 00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:39,480 you know what having a clean butt is good I mean have you ever sat next to 506 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:44,000 the person who kind of smells faintly of poo yeah 507 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:48,760 yeah can you imagine if they smelled a little bit like peppermint instead you 508 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:53,680 know what I'm really happy about is that is I I would appreciate you know that 509 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:55,240 like uh you're the real MVP thing is 510 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,960 like the guy that stinks on the airplane but brings a one wipe Charlie yeah 511 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,800 you're the real MVP you're the real I want to sit next to you for like 2 hours 512 00:37:00,359 --> 00:37:06,960 if you smell like poo so anyway guys check it out dollarshaveclub.com they are a wonderful 513 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:11,359 supporter of lonus tech tips they 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powered by Squarespace 543 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:26,079 look at that it's like all the all the legit folks I'm I'm bunching myself in 544 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,560 with legit folks so that people will make the association 545 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:35,800 you know I guess you can do that that's fair oh yeah and I should probably also 546 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,720 mention this uh Squarespace has redone 547 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,040 their developer platform so if you're a developer you're definitely going to 548 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:44,280 want to go and check that out that's interesting yeah that's kind of cool you 549 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,800 should probably Che I haven't looked at it at all yet yeah I know this is this is brand new so there's a whole bunch of 550 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:55,119 new tools and stuff so it gives you full control over the HTML CSS and JavaScript 551 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:59,760 so that's kind of I don't think it had JavaScript support before I'm not sure 552 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,079 but it I don't think so and that's really nice yeah cool so there's a 553 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:08,040 there's another thing because I know you're working on a personal site with it right I'm taking more time than I had 554 00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:13,200 originally planned but I like my new idea cool so oh well and I've kind of 555 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:17,359 dropped that with working on Squirtle version 2 right Have I Told yeah I've 556 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,680 told you about some of my plans for that yes so he's redoing his personal rig and 557 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,160 his personal website you should make your website about your personal rig 558 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:29,160 well I'm I'm waiting for it should have photographs and you should like learn 559 00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:32,920 photography to take great photographs I was just going to get Brandon into so 560 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:39,839 you should learn you know I think we all don't 561 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,800 appreciate Brandon enough I do you know 562 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:45,119 he's my he's my bro on trips we're Team B man we're gonna bring hold on maybe 563 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:51,359 you don't appreciate we're gonna bring Brandon in here for for a moment of 564 00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:53,920 appreciating Brandon okay hey Brandon 565 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:59,640 can you come here for a sec we have to appreciate you 566 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:04,800 why why okay okay okay here here we have to 567 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,560 bring we have to bring Brandon on for a moment of appreciation we just 568 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:15,640 appreciate you very much you film all the things edit all the things yep and 569 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:20,400 he's like scared he even he even came and did like a maternity like photo 570 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:24,680 shoot for me and my wife cuz he's a good guy good guy Brandon you guys should 571 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:30,800 follow him on Twitter I can't remember your Twitter handle _ the intern I want 572 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,359 to change it I want to change it now the 573 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,680 reason I haven't changed it is because when we ordered business cards yeah 574 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:42,480 that's what was on the business card and I have what is it 500 business cards 575 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,720 that have that Twitter handle on it been waiting to change it I have the other 576 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:50,520 one I want though so that's okay you got packs coming up so you can give out a 577 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,839 bunch there and then uh we've got CES 578 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,240 coming up you should give out the rest there just hand them off to someone just 579 00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:01,200 take them all so I can order people's booths sleep en tire no one will 580 00:41:59,319 --> 00:42:05,160 forget and then I change my Twitter handle and they they they can't find do 581 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:10,280 you like the business do the business card exchange 582 00:42:07,319 --> 00:42:15,000 but give the guy a hundred here you go so it's actually worse to give out all 583 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,520 the business cards before you change the Twitter handle maybe tell you what why 584 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,280 don't you change the Twitter handle I'll buy you new business cards we'll call it 585 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:27,200 a great all right thanks Brandon now he's back to editing all the things if 586 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,400 you oh yeah I was going to ask him to close the door cuz I don't ask him to do 587 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,400 enough apparently so you're just going to you're just going to monopolize 588 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,839 Brandon's time and have him take pictures of your computer for you all 589 00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:40,880 right well we gave him some appreciation for it at 590 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:44,760 least yeah so now we don't have to feel bad but yeah I wanted to I have I 591 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:50,400 started building my Squarespace site and I was like okay a lot of these layouts are honestly optimized very well for 592 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:54,480 having a lot of photos which is yes very Visual and then I was like I don't have 593 00:42:52,839 --> 00:42:58,440 any problem I was like when I build my new 594 00:42:56,839 --> 00:43:01,800 rig set up I'll get photos you know what I didn't even mention speaking of new 595 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:07,160 rigs our build guide that we did where Brandon stayed at the office with me 596 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:10,000 until 3 in the morning filming so that 597 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:14,440 was a uh I think taking out the meal breaks I think it was like a 15 or 598 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,559 16-hour day or something like that like some ludicrous winner yeah it was good 599 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:25,280 though we got the build guide done which is what it's all about all right well that was fun uh 600 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:32,920 let's move on to rumors shall we okay so first rumor is that the 601 00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:34,880 GeForce GTX 880 has been 602 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,760 certified there's a question mark at the end of the headline here have we had an 603 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,720 880 rumor every week for last month oh 604 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:47,800 possibly yeah yeah that sounds about right so this is from video 605 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:52,599 card.com and the word on the street is that the GTX 880 will be coming sometime 606 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:58,079 in mid September they're apparently planning a big event for all major press 607 00:43:54,839 --> 00:44:00,920 members from around the world and uh 608 00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:04,520 prepare for boring Maxwell architecture presentations I wonder if video 609 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:09,960 cards.com is getting an invite yeah what the hell live streaming 610 00:44:07,319 --> 00:44:14,800 new hardware and Jensen explaining why you should buy g-sync monitors and 611 00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:16,440 shield tablets I wouldn't be surprised 612 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:22,079 if if he explains that we should buy gsync monitors and shield tablets especially cuz Shield at least the 613 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,160 concept I'm not that sold on the tablet personally not because it's a bad 614 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:30,359 product I'm just not a tablet user um love Shield and now that I'm using the 615 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:35,240 Rog Swift as my daily driver did I even tell you that uh no yeah I'm us I kind 616 00:44:33,319 --> 00:44:38,640 of expected you to I'm using the r Swift every single time a new ASUS monitor 617 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:42,800 comes in you just take it seriously when was the last one you 618 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:52,319 didn't that's the answer I was looking for hold on hold on wait if I go back 619 00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:56,119 far enough okay at my house right now I 620 00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:59,760 have the pb287q so I have the 4K I have 621 00:44:56,119 --> 00:45:03,000 the pa27 9 Q so that's that beautiful 10 622 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,559 bit panel that's like pretty baller that 623 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,920 you shouldn't have and then I have the r considering we have a Quadro here and 624 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:13,119 Brandon could use a 10 bit panel for editing no Brandon can't have a Quadro 625 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:19,040 yet he's going to get a Quadro when we do the upgrade is he then getting a 10 626 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,040 bit panel no I'll keep 627 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:26,200 it so next time a video doesn't look perfect and you know Brandon edit it 628 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:30,559 blame him uh you know what though we are going to do a bit of a monitor Truffle 629 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,319 Shuffle because we have that BenQ uh CAD one that 32 in that's actually using a 630 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:39,079 pretty nice VA panel so someone will get that that's okay for pretty rudimentary 631 00:45:37,319 --> 00:45:44,440 color work actually pretty decent color work then we've also got um like are we 632 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,640 making sure everyone has at least one we're making we're going to make sure everyone has at least one pretty 633 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,640 accurate pretty accurate monitor is everyone getting quadros then uh no yeah 634 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:57,480 okay uh Taran is going to get a third monitor probably though he's asked for 635 00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:58,760 one uh just because he his work flow 636 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:04,000 would make it a lot easier for him if he had a script above we're going to we're going to be covering all this of course 637 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:08,640 in the whole room water cooling upgrade thing speaking of 638 00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:14,480 which what is this we had our first shipment of supplies arrive for it hold 639 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:19,240 up I can move mine you can here do you want to hold this up sure just kind of 640 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:27,599 hold it so so they can here it's okay to have it sort of tilted but not all the 641 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:30,400 way okay here we go okay so oh 642 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:33,160 yeah here we go uh you can go ahead and I think they'll get the 643 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,520 point yes 644 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,960 friends a master carton of Titan black 645 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,119 editions you know that graphics card that we never got one to do a review 646 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:49,400 about I know right now we have a lot you 647 00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:54,000 know what's funny I got the okay okay this is great great story I got an email 648 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,440 from Acer today cuz did I already tell you that we're going to get a sample of 649 00:46:55,319 --> 00:47:03,559 their upcoming 4k gsync yes okay so the thing about gsync is 650 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:07,920 that it works down to I oh shoot I 651 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:10,720 believe it's 25 frames per second 24 35 652 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:15,559 something like that if you dip too low it stops working because you can't leave 653 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,880 an image on the screen for too long it starts to degrade and you have to 654 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,920 refresh it so I'm sorry I don't remember exactly what that frame rate is but Acer 655 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:28,760 had some concerns about me reviewing their gsync monitor because if you don't 656 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,880 have a graphic setup that cannot dip below that you're going to see some 657 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,520 tearing and you're going to see some visual anomalies that otherwise g-sync 658 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:40,839 completely eliminates so they sent me this email they're like do you have a 659 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:47,280 system that's powerful enough to drive this monitor in games and I'm 660 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:52,599 like really really yeah I think I do I think 661 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,319 so I think we'll be okay I think we'll be all right so what we'll so what we'll 662 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:59,079 probably do is uh dual 780 Ti what I 663 00:47:57,319 --> 00:48:03,280 expected go go to go to town on it should be good I may actually have to 664 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,559 borrow a rig just to do my review of that monitor cuz I've got a single Titan 665 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:12,839 in my machine that might not be enough you might need two monitors to drive 666 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,880 modern games at like CU you want to be 667 00:48:12,839 --> 00:48:20,160 in that you don't really want to fall below 45 FPS cuz when I was at the demo 668 00:48:18,359 --> 00:48:23,680 it looks pretty darn smooth down to about 45 your Titan's water cooled in 669 00:48:22,359 --> 00:48:27,400 right it is you have quick disconnects on it no that's one thing I did for my 670 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,480 update right my card is be quick disconnected with those cool an black 671 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:36,200 ones oh my God anyway Sor is that where those all went no oh I got my own okay 672 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:40,720 where are they all oh they're on the bench that's right okay um anyways they 673 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:46,119 were like stupid expensive but after building them into that bench I was like yep need them um anyways uh what was I 674 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:52,040 going to say yeah you could have just swapped those in your system but you can just take a bench home yeah yeah I'll 675 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:56,440 probably just do that what I might do oh I should just swap a Titan black and 676 00:48:54,799 --> 00:49:00,480 then bring the Titan here it's not that much slower someone can have a Titan 677 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:04,880 Brandon will never know the difference no you just had an appreciation thing 678 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:09,520 let's take advantage of Brandon no he should get a Titan black he should get a 679 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:15,400 Titan black Taran Taran edel and Brandon all need to get at least one each 680 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,720 there's five fine you can't take one of 681 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:22,200 those from all right so we never actually managed to talk about any of 682 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:24,920 the 880 rumors so the rumor is it's 683 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:30,319 going to be 4 gigs of RAM with a 256-bit interface uh we should apparent ly also 684 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:35,599 expect 8 gig models According to some leaked pictures um the rumor is that it 685 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:40,079 might not be the fastest card out there but it won't hurt your wallet too badly 686 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:45,520 so we're not going to see a flagship card launch at you know $7.99 or a 687 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:50,680 $1,000 like the Titan black speaking of hurting your wallet um crackling 688 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:54,119 packages do not make that easy yeah I know right it's twitch chat telling you 689 00:49:52,680 --> 00:50:00,280 to do bad things again um however Etc etc etc so it's 690 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:05,079 basically a gk104 replacement according to the rumor on vide 691 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,799 cards.com but based on you know how 692 00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:11,160 efficient Maxwell is based on how big we think the Chip is going to be it's 693 00:50:09,319 --> 00:50:17,240 pretty safe to assume it will sit above 780 and maybe even above 780 Ti in terms 694 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:22,640 of performance so this could be a pretty darn ex uh exclusive card exclusive 695 00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:28,640 pretty darn exciting card they're not making very many you have to be a part 696 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,640 of Team Green to get one 697 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:35,400 is team red yeah yeah that's a real thing I was that's why I was oh were you 698 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:39,280 making fun of team red oh okay well I wasn't making fun of team red I was like 699 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:44,119 the only thing about team red that kind of bothered me was AMD inviting me to 700 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:47,760 join it the Twitter pictures where no no not those hilarious no they invited me 701 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:52,760 to join it and I was just kind of sitting there I was going like look we 702 00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:57,559 have a relationship and it's good but if I start joining team don't send us 703 00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:01,559 anything to test or Team Green or team blue like if I start joining a team 704 00:50:59,799 --> 00:51:06,680 that's stupid I'm supposed to beti right I might as well just not they 705 00:51:04,799 --> 00:51:10,200 might as well just not send me a card and I'll make a review about how great 706 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:13,760 it is anyway if I join team red yeah like I I I I can't do stuff like that I 707 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,680 got to be I got to be looking at the product maybe that's what they were trying to do because they don't really 708 00:51:15,799 --> 00:51:23,079 send us things so they're like if he just joins the team let's be fair to 709 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:25,839 them they send us most things most 710 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:29,799 there's only one there's only one product they haven't sent us in the last 711 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,040 year and that was the 295x2 so and I believe they did intend 712 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:38,920 to send one I think it just didn't really happen all right so we expect 713 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:44,280 rumors of an upcoming graphics card to start circulating but what we don't 714 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,920 normally expect is rumors of a graphics 715 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:51,559 card that is not coming anytime soon to start leaking um oh first of all the op 716 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:56,920 for that last topic was Victoria Secret and the op for this one is Big Earl so 717 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:02,799 thanks Big Earl but this is the room right now apparently even though the GTX 718 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:04,760 880 is allegedly going to be coming out 719 00:52:02,799 --> 00:52:10,520 uh and this one says early or late October so let's just say late Q3 early 720 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Q4 the rumor is that the GTX 990 will be 721 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:21,480 launching in early 2015 so the original 722 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:26,559 article here is from tweak toown so thanks to them for posting this this is 723 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:28,720 actually a relatively R reputable site 724 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:34,480 like we're not talking WCC for their audio playing ads except for their oh 725 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,359 shoot are we playing any no no they don't have any audio ads on right now 726 00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:40,720 just be careful because it might randomly attack you even if you don't 727 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,880 refresh the page so they're saying they're we should expect NVIDIA to 728 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:51,319 completely skip the 20 nmet process going from 28 to 16 nanm which would 729 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:54,119 mean that if this is a large style chip 730 00:52:51,319 --> 00:52:58,680 there could be a lot more logic in it compared to what we've seen in the past 731 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,599 the rumor is that this will be under the Maxwell architecture and that's probably 732 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:08,119 that probably pretty much goes without saying and then it won't stop there as 733 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:13,040 apparently we should see the GeForce 1000 series sometime in the next 18 to 734 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:18,040 24 months as well although I think that that as far as guesses go is about like 735 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:25,880 me saying the sun will probably set sometime in the next 5 hours because new 736 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,559 video cards come like eventually yep and 737 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:33,240 saying something time in the next 18 to 24 months is about 738 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,520 like even if they have to 9,800 it yeah 739 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:42,240 even if they oh oh I just made some people sad what 740 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:46,040 if they GTS 250 it oh 741 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:48,599 oh not good not good sad days all right 742 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:55,440 so what else we got here today uh Intel is apparently going after our Duos and 743 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:57,880 raspberry pies in the most um unorthodox 744 00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:02,400 possible way so this guy right here is called sharks Cove it features a quad 745 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,359 core processor that runs at I think it was like 1.3 GHz or something ridiculous 746 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,839 like that yeah it's an atom chip it's got a gig of RAM 16 gigs of storage with 747 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:17,200 a Micro SD slot you can output via a fullsize HDMI port or an MPI connector 748 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:21,760 and it's got a usb2 port the only issue here is that it clocks in at a whopping 749 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:29,280 $300 but it comes with a full Windows 8.1 license yes it does so if you wanted 750 00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:33,079 to Dev for Windows 751 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,599 8.1 on a very small 752 00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:39,760 device I don't actually think this is directly trying to attack Arduino or 753 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,799 Raspberry Pi it can't be the price point isn't right at all I mean Intel's not 754 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:47,640 stupid they would know that if they need something that's supposed to compete 755 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:52,599 with that it would have to be 20 bucks or 30 bucks or whatever else and like 756 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,359 from talking with them at CES a big thing that they kept on saying over and 757 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,280 over again when I was looking at their little chipset then or not uh their 758 00:54:57,359 --> 00:55:02,160 little boards then was that they're very Dev focused and in this one they're 759 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:08,240 talking again it's supposed to be helping developers build apps for different sized systems and different 760 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:13,200 solutions so I wouldn't be surprised if that's entirely their focus again 761 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,480 speaking of entirely being focused on wait a minute hold on did I miss the op 762 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:23,119 there nope I didn't speaking of being entirely focused uPorn really has been 763 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:32,640 they were serious about it they have focused on sponsoring a pro mooba team 764 00:55:28,359 --> 00:55:34,119 so apparently it is happening and um 765 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:40,359 there you go this was originally posted on the Forum by power consumption junkie 766 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,760 I love that Avatar gtx480 love it I 767 00:55:40,359 --> 00:55:47,240 never noticed that actually I've seen him around but I never really correlated the two so apparently many people who 768 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,000 responded to the original tweet where they were like hey any pro League of 769 00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:55,000 Legends or Dota 2 players yeah we want to sponsor you um apparently most people 770 00:55:53,319 --> 00:55:57,839 came to the same conclusion that we did and that's that if they were to sponsor 771 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:03,319 team they would likely have to fund them under a different name because you're 772 00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:08,240 not going to have on like you know the main feed for the international that's 773 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:13,400 like like let's say this team makes the finals and they're being broadcast on 774 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:18,000 ESPN just done the they could have called them YP and used their little 775 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:23,000 logo thing the pink Y and black even then I think that's it's a pink Y and a 776 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:27,520 black PE never thought of that um so anyway the point is that they wouldn't 777 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:33,039 be able to have you corn logos all over the backs of the shirts of the players 778 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:35,640 or whatever else so hopefully we see 779 00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:38,799 some kind of uh some kind of you know tastefulness and the way that they do 780 00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:43,599 the sponsorship and I think it's you have giant Pink wise on the front okay 781 00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:46,599 enough of this um 782 00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,520 just you know on the on the other side you know 783 00:56:52,520 --> 00:57:00,680 what we try to maintain a certain level of professionalism on on this show my 784 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,680 mom might be 785 00:57:02,839 --> 00:57:08,720 watching I'm sorry Mom okay continue 786 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:12,920 apparently the contract is drafted so there's that this is also cool original 787 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:19,000 poster on the line of techtips forum was drick W LG is showing off speaking of 788 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:31,359 size mattering their 105 in 5K TV yes 4K is not enough for LG 789 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:34,839 they want a 21 by9 5K TV so it runs at a 790 00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:37,520 whopping 5120 by 2160 we're not even 791 00:57:34,839 --> 00:57:43,000 talking the usual hey it's a new TV standard there's no content for it we're 792 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:49,000 talking a whole new level of I don't even know of a camera that shoots this 793 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:55,160 you'd have to shoot at like Red's 6K or something and then crop it and 794 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:03,720 what what are you doing with that said I do think that moving to 21 by9 795 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:08,960 especially for very large format TVs makes a ton of sense I just don't think 796 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,799 that um chopping off the top of content or having black bars if I'm going to 797 00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:17,079 spend $120,000 on a TV is going to make S oh 798 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:23,559 sorry I shouldn't say $120,000 because Samsung's competing model is $120,000 799 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,559 LGS comes in at a mere 800 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:32,440 $177,000 well hey if if you were spending hundred plus, on 801 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,839 a TV I probably wouldn't care about that little extra or the other way of looking 802 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,079 at it is maybe you spent all of your money and you don't have another 3,000 803 00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:44,880 to spare don't do that on a TV man I would so buy a Tesla Model S instead but 804 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:49,280 that's a poor people way of thinking what you would buy instead but then you 805 00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:53,119 just said you spent all your money so you oh no I'm I'm past that yeah that 806 00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:57,880 was just a stupid thing I said to get a rise out of you um so that's not stupid 807 00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:03,799 I would way rather buy mod no no I know no no but the point there is that when 808 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:06,280 when people like us real people discuss 809 00:59:03,799 --> 00:59:10,200 like really expensive stuff and we're like that's stupid it's stupid to buy 810 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:14,680 that because here are all the things I would buy Instead This stuff's not for 811 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:19,160 us this is for people who already have all that stuff so we're thinking about 812 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:24,960 it wrong we're clearly the ones doing it wrong that's all I have to say about 813 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:27,200 that but yes I buy instead hold on 814 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,079 you're you're pointing they can't well you can't point at that screen 815 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:35,920 either I can use the mouse I'll use no wrong Mouse wrong mouse that Mouse here 816 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,920 just put your hand 817 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:42,480 there okay this big bar which is I'm 818 00:59:39,799 --> 00:59:50,920 assuming must be some form of speaker yeah why because idiots you're spending 819 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:54,400 $120,000 on your TV why why is that 820 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:57,200 there what the hell what are you 821 00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:03,280 doing is this part of at the bottom here I think it's a cutout I think it's a 822 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:06,640 cutout it's like what are you doing wow 823 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,400 yeah that's the wall yeah that's bad 824 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:13,960 super dumb maybe it's not not super fun speaker I don't even well it must be 825 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:19,400 because the speaker sure isn't here so like why do you even have speakers in it 826 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:25,559 if you're spending 120 Grand on a TV please say you have some sort of sound 827 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,359 system yeah you should not be using 828 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:31,920 those people remember the kind of house you might 829 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,680 have if you have $120,000 for a TV is 830 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,280 probably very like minimalistic and beautiful you don't want to go 831 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,960 cluttering that [ __ ] up with like wires 832 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:45,000 so you should probably probably use the speakers in your TV I mean it's 833 01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:46,359 a it's $120,000 TV so probably the 834 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,760 speakers are badass you could have the wires going through the 835 01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:56,200 wall can't even fully complete the sentence Oh my God you can get that 836 01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:00,400 crazy controller thing that I saw on what was it mono price you have Wall 837 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:04,520 switches for all your speakers no because that would probably ruin your 838 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:08,960 wall your Wall's probably very beautiful so it would have to be like touch 839 01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:12,920 detecting lasers in the roof so that you can tap on the wall and there's no 840 01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:16,599 screen there yeah but like the wall would have to be glass so that you 841 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:21,880 wouldn't like get your oil on it and like Ru it yeah my rich people house 842 01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:26,079 would be awesome I actually planned out what my rich people house would be so if 843 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:30,799 I just had like millions of dollars and had no idea what to do with it I would 844 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:35,720 build a house that's completely below ground because I don't know about other 845 01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:42,720 places but here in Vancouver the average lot size has significantly decreased 846 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:45,640 over the last 25 years so my idea was 847 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:52,400 that the entire house would actually use Like An Egyptian mirror system style 848 01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:54,520 thing to pull light in from a certain 849 01:01:52,400 --> 01:02:00,440 sort of number of places but then the actual entire top of the property could 850 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,000 be like a a grass field thing so people 851 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:06,400 would be driving by and it would be like empty lot except there would actually be 852 01:02:04,279 --> 01:02:10,720 a house there so you would access it by opening up like a like a storm cell 853 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,640 style thing well you have a million dollar house yeah a million dollar house 854 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,839 so like you you'd like well okay million dollar house Vancouver not that 855 01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:20,279 expensive you have a multi you have millions of dollars yeah so so you'd be 856 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:25,200 like beep beep boop on your on your like Smartwatch and then like uh an elevator 857 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,799 would come out of the ground here is your personal 858 01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:32,400 system then you get in so the point of this house would be that I spent all 859 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,240 this money on the house I'm going to save that money in cooling expenses I 860 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:44,599 wouldn't need air conditioning because I'd be so far down below the ground you 861 01:02:41,799 --> 01:02:51,039 still on about the air conditioning oh my 862 01:02:47,799 --> 01:02:53,240 God to avoid getting air conditioning he 863 01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:57,599 would a build a multi-million dollar house underground so he wouldn't have to 864 01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,720 get air conditioning or B water cool every single computer in the office in 865 01:02:59,079 --> 01:03:06,480 one Loop so he can pull air out of the pull that heat out of the room but still 866 01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:12,240 not buy air conditioning and I could still I could still enjoy like the all 867 01:03:10,359 --> 01:03:17,000 that money I'm spending by further investing in things like the best home 868 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:22,119 theater system ever cuz you could Crank that up as loud as you want and if you 869 01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:25,960 were three stories down that would be amazing cuz you could have it be 870 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:29,440 completely dark if you put subwoofers like in the walls you could make 871 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:33,039 everyone think that you're there's manyi earthquakes whenever you watch action 872 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,799 movies that would be amazing it would be so epic great I saw someone on Twitch 873 01:03:35,319 --> 01:03:41,079 chat saying if lonus had a million dollars he would buy streets by 50 Star 874 01:03:38,839 --> 01:03:45,279 Wars headphones to review them yeah I already did that I shot that review 875 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:50,319 today that review is going to be when is it going up not for a while cuz we have 876 01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:53,760 to film the music video on Tuesday and then it has to be edited which is going 877 01:03:51,799 --> 01:03:59,839 to I'm assuming take like at least a full day for someone so so yeah that 878 01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:05,799 review that review is a thing it's going to be amazing or terrible I'm pretty 879 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:08,039 stoked for that or terribly amazing or 880 01:04:05,799 --> 01:04:12,960 all right so we've actually don't have a ton of topics this week it's kind of the 881 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:17,880 summer and uh rather than end the show early we decided we wanted to do kind of 882 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:22,720 an interactive thing with you guys and talk 883 01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:26,599 about what you think in terms of of raw 884 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:28,640 going for raw FPS versus where is this 885 01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:35,160 where did it go what is this was it removed I don't 886 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:40,279 know I can't find it right now the the discussion 887 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:42,359 topic oh oh I see it okay well okay no 888 01:04:40,279 --> 01:04:46,559 first let's do I just okay this isn't something that's a news item I just 889 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:56,400 thought this was a really great post by um uh exia exia xya um so basically AMD 890 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:59,880 released their free sync FAQ so free 891 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,960 sync is the gsync competitor sort of 892 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:04,839 from AMD where instead of them 893 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:09,559 developing like a chip that goes in the monitor that allows the display to only 894 01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:13,640 refresh when the video card sends it a signal telling it to refresh instead 895 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:19,799 this is part of the upcoming Vasa standard for DisplayPort 1.3 so AMD's 896 01:05:17,279 --> 01:05:25,359 naming of it as as free sync because it's going to be part of a Vasa standard 897 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:30,440 is uh yeah you know kind of a shot at shot at NVIDIA as well as just a way of 898 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:34,799 sort of making it clear that this is something that's part of an existing 899 01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:39,440 standard sort of um so basically theyve released right so they released an FAQ 900 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:43,640 about it and the main points here are that DisplayPort active sync which is 901 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:48,079 what it'll actually end up being called not project freesync enables the 902 01:05:45,839 --> 01:05:52,240 real-time adjustment of the monitor refresh rate so that's good they're 903 01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:57,000 saying it's project freesync is a unique AMD Hardware software solution that 904 01:05:55,039 --> 01:06:01,839 utiliz is DisplayPort active sync protocols to enable user facing benefits 905 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,079 so that's smooth tearing free and low latency gameplay NVIDIA so what's 906 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:10,559 interesting about that is there's actually no guarantee that freesync is 907 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:15,920 going to be supported across all graphics cards Intel hasn't commented on 908 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:18,799 it at all and NVIDIA certainly hasn't 909 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:25,160 commented on it so we may actually be looking at a completely new set of 910 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:29,680 NVIDIA certified AMD certified rather than a completely open standard that's 911 01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:32,880 supposed to come you know crashing onto the market and make it so that everyone 912 01:06:31,279 --> 01:06:37,079 can enjoy what is truly an amazing technology which I find a little bit 913 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:42,279 disappointing but I'm not ready to condemn it yet because if it does turns 914 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:48,119 out to be absolutely freaking fantastic then that's great but the problem is 915 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:50,559 that it requires specific Hardware so 916 01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:56,760 you could actually see DisplayPort monitors that do not support free sync 917 01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:00,319 and they could still be dis Port 1.3 so that's another thing that is something 918 01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:03,000 for people who are waiting that are who are holding out for free sync that's 919 01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:07,960 something that they might want to consider aside from how long they will 920 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:13,160 likely be waiting this was actually a post pulled from ASUS someone from ASUS 921 01:07:10,839 --> 01:07:18,279 posted this let me just find it here we go so blah blah blah blah blah yeah so 922 01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:22,920 someone posted on I think it must have been on their Forum you know any monitor that can get to the gsync upgrade 923 01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:27,119 already has vblank enabled which means it's free sync compatible right and 924 01:07:24,839 --> 01:07:32,039 basically Marshall R shut this down and said no it's not the same it needs to be 925 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:34,279 enabled in firmware drivers ic's Etc and 926 01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:38,319 it's not ASUS official it's just a little bit of background information on 927 01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:43,160 how product development Works having an industry standard is only a first step 928 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:48,400 it doesn't make it happen Vasa is on board so it's probably going to be fine 929 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,760 but it likely won't be fast and another 930 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:55,599 great point that gets brought up here is that it doesn't take into account that the LCD and display guys are already 931 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:00,359 really focused on other crap right now now 4K 21 by9 touchscreen curve displays 932 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:06,520 these are all things that they're focused on that are not just catering to 933 01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:09,079 Gamers and are important for everyone 934 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:13,720 not just Gamers so adaptive refresh needs an Asic display IC physical 935 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:17,400 redesign it's not just a firmware update that means silicon tape out 936 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:22,560 manufacturing testing firmware everything typically that's 12 months 937 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:27,640 from now to get it in their hands and then another 6 months or more of product 938 01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:32,600 Dev to actually make a retail display and that's if all the display IC 939 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:37,520 manufacturers decide to update for 1.2a instead of just waiting for 1.3 so sorry 940 01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:41,159 1.2a I believe is the one that was going to include it I'm a little bit Rusty I 941 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:45,359 haven't looked at it recently anyway the point is that in the short term until 942 01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:49,239 further notice ASUS is committed to g-sync and the 943 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,719 pg278q because it's the only technology that's actually on the market in the 944 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:58,560 midterm they're going to be standards agnostic I mean ASUS is notorious for 945 01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:03,440 just doing everything yeah yeah yeah like you look at you XFX going from 946 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:09,719 being GeForce exclusive to Radeon exclusive or like EVGA being GeForce 947 01:09:06,679 --> 01:09:10,880 exclusive or whatever ASUS has always 948 01:09:09,719 --> 01:09:15,480 just given the old yeah you want us to only make Intel 949 01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:19,440 boards you want us to only make AMD boards you want us to make what we're 950 01:09:16,679 --> 01:09:24,960 going to make whatever we want so and sometimes that turns into products that 951 01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:26,560 make no sense but a lot of the time it 952 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:30,640 uh wow we should get the most lest tective 953 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:36,279 sponsor no we shouldn't should I ask this poll topic no oh yeah sure I was 954 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:42,040 like why not I thought it was I thought it was should we get uPorn as a sponsor 955 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:45,359 no we shouldn't oh man all right so anyway I thought that was just an 956 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:49,279 interesting read through just because not a lot of details have been given by 957 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,600 AMD up till now I think it's great that they're demystifying this for everyone 958 01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:56,560 but unless you've been paying close attention um they've released 959 01:09:54,440 --> 01:10:00,800 information very very slowly starting with that exclusive CES thing from Anand 960 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:05,080 where they showed it they showed a tech demo working on a laptop all the way up 961 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,719 to now today where we see that the standard has been accepted by Vasa and 962 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:14,239 then we're going to continue to move forward from there but the point is just we're a long way away um so this was 963 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:17,880 where I actually wanted to get you guys Twitter blitzing and this was an 964 01:10:15,719 --> 01:10:21,000 interesting topic I'm not sure that I agree with it I just thought it was 965 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:29,000 interesting I'm going to post this in the twitch chat I want you guys to check it out there we go is am D falling 966 01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:32,840 behind NVIDIA because you could look at a lot of the stuff that AMD is doing 967 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:38,280 right now and make Arguments for the other way I thought the R9 968 01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:43,760 295x2 was a really great product and it was a real nod to the people that it's 969 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:47,960 actually supposedly targeted for like I am tired of companies coming out and 970 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:53,360 saying we've got an Enthusiast grade product and then not actually giving 971 01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:58,199 enthusiasts the features that they want and that they deserve like a water 972 01:10:54,920 --> 01:11:01,320 cooled card isn't too much to expect an 973 01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:04,199 Enthusiast to deal with and I think that 974 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:08,280 treating enthusiasts like babies is not the right approach either so I mean was 975 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,960 the product perfect no it was you know kicks out a lot of heat and of course 976 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:16,360 you have to have a case that has an open 120 mm mount for the radiator and all 977 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:21,880 that stuff but that's okay that's what made an Enthusiast ready but I thought 978 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:23,400 that this post was uh I thought that 979 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,760 this post was pretty interesting and I want to hear from you guys we're going 980 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,840 to start with a straw poll but I also want you to Twitter Blitz us as well um 981 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:36,520 and here let me get let me get that straw poll up did you post can you post that in the chat just for me to click on 982 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:39,639 yeah thank you it seems like the quickest way to share a link oh for 983 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:43,440 crying out loud I clicked if you scroll up it'll pause the I can get it though 984 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:48,400 okay we got it so let's put the uh the free sync versus gsync thing on here but 985 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:54,360 I want to get more from you guys actually I want to know do you do you 986 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:59,719 value what NVIDIA is doing in terms of things like game stream in terms of 987 01:11:56,679 --> 01:12:02,480 things like Shadow play Al AMD does have 988 01:11:59,719 --> 01:12:05,639 a better competitor for shadow play um as well as what they're doing in terms 989 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:10,520 of things like g-sync where they're basically saying okay look the standard 990 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:14,760 needs to exist maybe in the long term g-sync doesn't end up being that 991 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:18,600 important but if we could bring it to Market two years earlier than the 992 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:24,280 competitor would that be worth it and just kind of going for it or do you 993 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,080 prefer to see them just focus on making 994 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:29,520 graphic cards so I would like to uh I'd like to hear 995 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:35,120 from you guys about that so here's the gsync versus freesync thing so we've got 996 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,800 57% of you saying gsync and I'd actually 997 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:41,800 feel free to Twitter Blitz about this as well I'd like to hear why gsync or why 998 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:46,280 freesync I mean reasons that I can think of off the top of my head are gsync is 999 01:12:43,719 --> 01:12:51,239 here right now um reasons I can think of against gsync are NVIDIA has to my 1000 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:56,520 knowledge no intention of opening it up to anyone else whether it's Intel or AMD 1001 01:12:54,120 --> 01:13:01,639 um although I think Intel would be more likely um as like a licensing deal but 1002 01:12:59,719 --> 01:13:04,679 uh what do you think in terms of like what are the actual Market percentages 1003 01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:09,800 for NVIDIA versus AMD right now on graphics cards um like what's steam 1004 01:13:07,719 --> 01:13:14,520 steam's things let's let's pull it up let's pull up the hardware survey survey 1005 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:19,199 but last time last time I was in retail I know that in terms of sales numbers it 1006 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:23,040 was about 6040 to 7030 depending on the day of the week for NVIDIA okay yeah 1007 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:28,000 that's what I kind of found fairly interesting is this isn't quite 64 1008 01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:32,560 so are we just getting whatever graphics card people have in their 1009 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,280 systems well I'm wonder I'm well okay 1010 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:37,320 the one way you can look at it is in a lot of cases whatever graphics card 1011 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:42,400 people have in their systems are what they're going to be voting for in this type of a poll yeah yeah yeah no that 1012 01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:46,239 makes sense it's not necessarily even a fanboying thing it's just whatever 1013 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,960 they're standing behind in any form all right so here's the latest what I'm 1014 01:13:47,639 --> 01:13:54,880 trying to say is that freesync is getting more credit than I actually expected it to right in this poll so the 1015 01:13:53,440 --> 01:14:00,360 latest Steam Hardware survey which I think is a great way of pulling Gamers 1016 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:05,360 particularly like ignoring the casuals 1017 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:06,840 um is 50% NVIDIA 30% AMD and about 20% 1018 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:11,840 Intel so if you tried to pull this directly 1019 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:15,440 across uh gsync should have gotten a lot more votes yes so it seems like 1020 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,120 generally more people are getting actually behind free sync it's an 1021 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:24,600 interesting takeway from the poll just as an open standard yeah yeah sort of 1022 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:30,400 sort of I mean it's something open if NVIDIA chooses not to support it because 1023 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:33,360 but they choose not to do they choose I 1024 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:37,440 wonder because is is it choosing if you have to specifically enable it on a 1025 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:40,400 hardware level on the graphics card or is that just not having I don't know 1026 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:44,199 we'll we'll have to see how this shakes down it's going to be 2 years before we 1027 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:48,480 have a clear idea of how these two compete in the market yeah that's 1028 01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:52,520 interesting I mean locking into locking into my next graphics card upgrade I 1029 01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:57,080 have to confess makes me pretty uncomfortable me too it's a big deal you 1030 01:14:54,199 --> 01:15:01,760 know like buying a monitor for $800 right and then knowing cuz a monitor is 1031 01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:05,440 something I expect to keep for five or six years whenever I make that 1032 01:15:03,719 --> 01:15:09,480 investment so you're buying that really expensive really nice monitor on the 1033 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:13,560 notion that you have to buy the right graphics card for the most while I have 1034 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:18,679 to hope that they don't screw up that they don't screw up and have you know 1035 01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:21,400 another GTX you know 480 generation 1036 01:15:18,679 --> 01:15:25,880 where it's just not that competitive and it runs really hot or not even 480 I 1037 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:30,400 don't think 480 was even the problem let me just try to think right back when AMD 1038 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:35,080 had already refreshed and NVIDIA still only had 285s to compete right there was 1039 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:39,239 like there was a big gap there where NVIDIA just had nothing to compete with 1040 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:43,000 is that why they skipped 300 series I'm not sure I actually don't know the uh I 1041 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:47,679 don't know the story behind that I still don't get that it drives me crazy every 1042 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:54,480 single time I try to explain like graphics cards to people they'll be like you missed one I'm like no no no I 1043 01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:57,400 didn't no I don't understand either but no I didn't 1044 01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:01,760 all right let's go ahead and have a have a look at some of these tweets all right 1045 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:08,000 if Twitter ever loads yeah that a lot of tweets man Twitter yay Alexander hul 1046 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,880 says I hate the NVIDIA only thing although I understand it the argument 1047 01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:16,480 that they want to improve the experience they argue that they want to improve the 1048 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:19,639 experience of all Gamers but do the 1049 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:21,560 opposite they also want all Gamers to be 1050 01:16:19,639 --> 01:16:26,560 using NVIDIA products and whether I buy it or not part of their whole Spiel when 1051 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:30,280 they origin unveiled gsync was that they were legitimately trying to improve the 1052 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:34,679 experience of all Gamers by pushing this technology onto the market and kind 1053 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:39,480 worked and it kind of worked AMD announced free sync three months later 1054 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:43,520 vesa ratified it a few months after that like For Better or For Worse the ball 1055 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:47,480 wasn't rolling to our knowledge until NVIDIA rolled the ball 1056 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:54,480 so whoa just melee already says posted 1057 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:59,400 today krych UK shuts down deep silver takes over hom front the revolution oh 1058 01:16:56,639 --> 01:17:04,440 look at that sorry to hijack someone just tweeted this to me wow this must 1059 01:17:01,719 --> 01:17:10,719 have been so I guess they're downsizing if nothing else yeah PC Authority cry 1060 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:15,600 Tech UK shuts down interesting so guys uh here's the here's 1061 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:19,360 the news for that I'm surprised I didn't spot this earlier because it's was 20 1062 01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:23,600 hours ago 20 hours no it has zero comments though that's what I mean yeah 1063 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:28,960 that's weird it say it was 20 hours ago maybe it was written 20 hours ago 1064 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,360 look whoa weird yeah maybe they wrote it 1065 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,880 but they were waiting to uh waiting to publish maybe so there you go crytech 1066 01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:41,080 Shuffle staff as home front once again causes developer casualties in recent 1067 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:42,120 weeks unpaid wages Etc has announced it 1068 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:47,960 has acquired casualties on the home front 1069 01:17:45,639 --> 01:17:52,000 wow Deep Silver has already agreed to co-publish the game but now owns the IP 1070 01:17:50,080 --> 01:18:00,040 and will keep all the work that krych already performed wow 1071 01:17:55,679 --> 01:18:03,280 okay on to Twitter blitzing all 1072 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:05,560 right um Cole says yeah I feel like AMD 1073 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:10,239 is falling behind too much I feel like NVIDIA may have the edge except Titan Z 1074 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:16,800 was a big failure Titan Z is a weird product to me it it really felt like um 1075 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:19,679 like just kind of because we can like I 1076 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:25,480 I don't really expected to do so yeah I know I I just I think because you wanted 1077 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:31,480 us to I mean the thing is is if you actually look at the pricing scheme for 1078 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:34,480 it 150% 150% it's about the same as R9 1079 01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:36,080 295x2 it's just that r9290 XS are 1080 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:40,600 cheaper than Titans but then you could make the argument that 1081 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:42,159 gtx780 is just as good as a Titan from a 1082 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:47,440 gaming standpoint so it's just not priced for gamers and I and I I get that 1083 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,800 I just I wish NVIDIA's messaging was a little bit more clear sometimes like it 1084 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:57,360 was the same with Shield tablet where the first thing they said to us when we got in the room was this is a tablet 1085 01:18:54,280 --> 01:19:00,199 first we wanted it to be a really great 1086 01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:05,719 tablet for gamers and then all the demos were gaming demos except for the stylist 1087 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:10,840 demo yeah and so I was like you you guys are you guys have your heads so far into 1088 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:14,440 the gaming scene which is good I mean I get that it's just that sometimes 1089 01:19:12,679 --> 01:19:19,239 especially in your in your marketing communication you forget that a product 1090 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:23,760 was designed for more than just Gamers like the tablet and it's really 1091 01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:26,000 interesting that review has like 2,000 1092 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:30,840 comments on it of people discussing Shield tablet and people anywhere from I 1093 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:34,679 think it's stupid Shield Portable 2 should have been released with Tegra K1 1094 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:40,199 all the way to people being like yeah I actually don't really give any cares about gam stream but this looks like a 1095 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:45,040 great tablet I plan to buy one K1 is fast yeah and I'm a go for it which is 1096 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:50,199 uh which was really interesting to me it's a very wide ranging Market it's not 1097 01:19:47,719 --> 01:19:53,400 like a GPU where a lot of people like a very large amount of people are just 1098 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:57,040 like yeah it needs to go quickly like it's actually there's a 1099 01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:00,800 huge amount of use cases for it Eric apparently feels like AMD is falling 1100 01:19:58,639 --> 01:20:06,080 behind with NVIDIA having the backing to create this new stuff uh bomb mask I 1101 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:10,040 think AMD has dropped the ball on driver support you know what's funny is over 1102 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:17,159 the last couple of years so since lus Media Group formed I just am I'm tired 1103 01:20:13,639 --> 01:20:18,679 of NVIDIA has crap drivers AMD has crap 1104 01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:24,400 drivers you know what they both have problems I can get just as mad about AMD 1105 01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:27,800 not supporting custom resolutions as I can about what's the stupid thing on 1106 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:31,120 NVIDIA's side they support custom resolutions but when we were trying to 1107 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:36,239 get that thing working yeah yeah I'm trying to remember they didn't 1108 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:42,440 support shoot I don't remember anymore it's in our video about super um super 1109 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:46,120 sample anti-ia sing where basically we couldn't get something working because 1110 01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:49,920 NVIDIA didn't support one basic feature and AMD didn't support some other basic 1111 01:20:47,719 --> 01:20:54,840 feature they both have issues and we've seen them both swing back and forth in 1112 01:20:52,360 --> 01:21:00,760 terms of stability within games stability and SLI and Crossfire and for 1113 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:02,560 some reason on my personal rig using uh 1114 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:06,199 GeForce experience I can't download drivers right it'll download like most 1115 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,199 of the way and then just be like no connection to whatever server thing I'm 1116 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:14,239 just like K thanks and then there was that issue that I had on the mini PCS 1117 01:21:12,199 --> 01:21:18,679 when I was trying to Benchmark where installing installing the proprietary 1118 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:23,199 vendor specific driver off of the manufacturer of the Box's website would 1119 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:27,239 install GeForce experience which would then download a new generic driver that 1120 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:31,480 just wouldn't work on the machine like there's just neither of them is perfect 1121 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,960 let's not pretend that they are that's all I have to say um I prefer g-sync 1122 01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:40,800 because it's available and it's proven to work I prefer free sync because I 1123 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:45,000 much prefer open to closed how will you deal with freezing temps in Canada in 1124 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:47,960 your whole room one Loop project great question we're in Vancouver so it 1125 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:52,920 typically doesn't fall below around minus5 here 1126 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:59,400 gsync but it's just unfair to not let AMD use it especially because the prices 1127 01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:01,880 it's not unfair um totally not unfair 1128 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:06,320 you develop a technology you leverage that technology you don't give it to 1129 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:11,760 your competitor I mean if we created a completely new way of making videos are 1130 01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:14,760 we going to just like bring every other YouTuber in and give them a tutorial 1131 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:18,639 actually though well the YouTube SCS a little different I think we share a lot 1132 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:25,280 we actually probably would we probably would but yeah xaver says smooth gaming 1133 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:28,000 now gsync is great I'm getting an Swift 1134 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:31,920 want it now I would go freesync because it's the same thing except a less 1135 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:36,360 expensive option that is a theory we have no idea how much a free sync 1136 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:41,120 monitor is going to cost by that time who knows g-sync may be extremely 1137 01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:44,880 inexpensive because of how mature it is because of how long it's been in 1138 01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:50,480 production whereas whenever a new product or a new technology dropsens I 1139 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:52,960 mean look at 4K yeah how expensive is it 1140 01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:57,199 for the first year what fraction of that price can you expect to pay for it the 1141 01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:01,080 next next year so while free sync is still you know hot and new and exciting 1142 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:05,159 and there's that pent up demand from AMD users who have wanted some kind of a 1143 01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:09,440 solution but don't want to go NVIDIA I think it's going to be expensive at the 1144 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:12,679 beginning do think is here now and AMD hasn't been specific on performance even 1145 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:17,280 beta benchmarks you can't Benchmark this that's not really the way it works um 1146 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:22,159 basically it just it just does what it does it's not a benchmark thing when the 1147 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:26,360 graphics card is finished rendering a frame it outputs it to the monitor which 1148 01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:30,639 refreshes only when there's a new frame that's the way it 1149 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:33,480 works uh Tim says Open Standards over 1150 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:38,600 exclusive J says we need new technology free sync is good because it's here 1151 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:40,280 right now um okay gsync is already here 1152 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,719 and almost available free Sync has quality loss that's actually something I 1153 01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:49,000 wasn't aware of with freesync so I would have to look into that a little bit more yeah do you think is better because I 1154 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:52,880 use it right now and it's amazing all right fair enough 1155 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:56,840 Quantum it really is kind of amazing I have no extensive use with it uh I 1156 01:23:55,320 --> 01:24:00,679 should I should I should lend you the Swift I wonder why well the other 1157 01:23:58,639 --> 01:24:03,719 monitor got taken apart by the ncx tech tips team and they haven't put it back 1158 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,560 together for me yet I told them I'm not putting it back together so they need to 1159 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:11,800 put it back together for me and they just keep dragging ass on it all right 1160 01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:16,000 Ruck do says I'd rather see a video card company focus on video cards I can do 1161 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:20,920 video recoding and streaming with other things better interesting point but what 1162 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:24,199 you uh actually you know if we give valve a little bit more time to build 1163 01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:28,360 you know an Android version of steam we could could see in home streaming show 1164 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:31,600 up on uh on Android without NVIDIA game Stream So maybe Ruck do has a point if 1165 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:37,880 we're willing to wait a little bit longer maybe we don't need any of that stuff I already have a g-sync monitor so 1166 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:42,320 I couldn't really vote any other way um amintha says no I don't think AMD 1167 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:46,080 is falling behind NVIDIA and AMD are focusing on different things and that 1168 01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:53,679 will both be important to improve the industry I mean something that we didn't mention at all is mantle um mantle is 1169 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,840 coming for a lot of games more than I would have expected 1170 01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:01,360 back when they first announced it um let me just see if I can find the list of 1171 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:04,920 upcoming games I find when most people guess the guest is far too low which is 1172 01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:07,280 a good thing actually because then they'll be coming out with more so 1173 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:13,040 hopefully there's actually something you're interested in yeah here we go so 1174 01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:17,239 here this is from videoc cards.com so we've got games that are here now so 1175 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:21,040 that's uh Battlefield 4 Thief Sniper Elite 3 not quite not yet available with 1176 01:25:19,239 --> 01:25:24,800 mantle as well as Plants Vs zombies Garden Warfare we've got games that are 1177 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:29,520 unreleased but have confirmed mantle support Star Citizen civilization 1178 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:35,880 Mirror's Edge Battlefield Hardline Sims 4 like big deal game if you don't like 1179 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:38,320 the Sims The Sims is huge yeah just just 1180 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,960 it's important deal with it it's all we have to say and then there's unreleased 1181 01:25:39,639 --> 01:25:44,800 with mental support pending and there's a bunch of other really interesting 1182 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:50,560 stuff in there Sleeping Dogs Grand Theft Auto 5 like all this crazy stuff I guess 1183 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:56,360 for me the thing that I need to see is I need to see how mantle actually ends up 1184 01:25:52,639 --> 01:26:00,159 stacking up against Direct X DirectX 12 1185 01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:03,600 yeah so and I mean people thinking that 1186 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:05,960 mantle spurred on Microsoft to bring 1187 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:09,719 direct X12 to Market guys that's not what happened direct X12 has been in the 1188 01:26:07,719 --> 01:26:14,119 works for quite some time already it's not it's it's not like Microsoft sudden 1189 01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:18,320 this is what we kind of thought at the time because we just knee-jerk reaction 1190 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:22,360 it it's not like Microsoft hadn't been listening at all it made sense with the 1191 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:25,880 evidence that we had at the time yes in the in the in with the release schedule 1192 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:31,119 information that we had at the time it kind of made sense but no they've been working on directx12 for a long time it 1193 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:35,719 is a lower level API and it is going to bring some real improvements um so it 1194 01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:40,600 remains to be seen which is going to be more important moving forward and who 1195 01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:43,080 knows openg is in the mix as well 1196 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:47,080 but at least they're kind of like the g-sync thing at least AMD is pushing and 1197 01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:52,119 going okay well if we can have mantle support a year earlier than waiting for 1198 01:26:50,119 --> 01:26:55,000 the rest of the industry to catch up then hey we can do that we can deliver 1199 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,440 better performance to our users and especially with buying more expensive 1200 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:04,320 potentially somewhat proprietary monitors I see this as much more 1201 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:09,280 impactful than G freey anyways which gser freesync seems to be the big versus 1202 01:27:07,239 --> 01:27:13,040 conversation but those games coming out with mantle on them I think might 1203 01:27:10,679 --> 01:27:17,199 actually be a big deal if it turns out to actually be a big deal for Lima says 1204 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:21,320 AMD May release something big soon I don't know maybe um I was supposed to 1205 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,920 have a call with them this week and that didn't happen so I don't know anything 1206 01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:28,440 uh Delon says I want them to wait and release something substantial instead of 1207 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:34,040 these gimmicks I don't like apple but take notes from them interesting wait 1208 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,560 and release something substantial so is what you're saying that you would like 1209 01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:40,840 to see them wait for a new graphics card to 1210 01:27:39,159 --> 01:27:45,080 release a new technology alongside entirely sure yeah I don't know cuz I 1211 01:27:43,119 --> 01:27:50,480 mean I like seeing stuff like you know directx12 compatibility announced like 1212 01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,000 you know retroactively for previous graphics cards or you know stuff like 1213 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,320 game stream or or some of the new stuff that they did with Shield tablet that's 1214 01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:02,480 now coming to Shield portable I mean all that kind of stuff I I love to see the 1215 01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:06,920 technology just continue to roll never mind new products yeah 1216 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:13,520 um free Sync has been patient since 2008 1217 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:19,639 so NVIDIA is behind and used AMD stuff not really how it works Tech news um the 1218 01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:25,840 one with the product on the Shelf in the store is first yeah like anyone who's 1219 01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:31,679 Watch Pirates of Silicone Valley we shipped first it doesn't 1220 01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:35,480 matter so this is interesting in a lot of countries NVIDIA and AMD are not that 1221 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,040 price competitive but usually it's the other way around where NVIDIA asks for a 1222 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:43,400 bit more of a premium for their products so I'm not sure where you're from The 1223 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:48,080 Lion gamer NVIDIA definitely has an edge with new steeld tablet but fell a bit 1224 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:49,960 behind with Titan Z okay fair enough AMD 1225 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:53,520 will fall behind because of the GTX 880 and 880 we don't know anything about 1226 01:28:51,639 --> 01:28:57,280 these cards yet if these are what we think they might be marginally better 1227 01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:01,639 performing Parts with better power consumption they're not exactly going to 1228 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:07,560 turn the market on its head a lot of Gamers don't even look at power 1229 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:12,800 consumption or noise when they shop for a graphics card they look at an FPS 1230 01:29:09,719 --> 01:29:15,440 chart and in that respect AMD performs 1231 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:22,360 very well from a price to Performance ratio standpoint Raptor adds some 1232 01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:24,800 features NVIDIA has but AMD UHD but it 1233 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:28,679 is too bloat weish yeah Raptor I know I know the game okay they they said they 1234 01:29:27,159 --> 01:29:31,800 have a new update it's either coming or it just came that's supposed to be way 1235 01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:37,679 better they asked us to check it out so maybe we'll have a look at it at some point yeah uh just I'll have a look at 1236 01:29:35,639 --> 01:29:42,960 it on a drive that I fully intend to just like multi like what is it called 1237 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:47,960 botin nuke so oh maybe we can have a look at AI sweet lower at it oh god um 1238 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:54,199 patalo Jones I just want all video cards to come with back plates installed yes 1239 01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:57,000 please oh my goodness you man yeah dog 1240 01:29:54,199 --> 01:30:02,320 yeah all right well all I agree um I think that is almost it we have one more 1241 01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:05,199 thing to do before the show ends unless you had something else you wanted to 1242 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:11,000 mention do we have any other rapid fire topics oh yeah we have two more things 1243 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:13,719 two more things so first up okay there's 1244 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:17,520 this guy right there's this guy he has this like YouTube channel or something 1245 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,560 we need everyone to be attentive here for a sec yeah we need everyone's full 1246 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:26,800 attention let me just bring up let me just bring up his email here because uh 1247 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:34,320 this this guy this guy said a thing I think he didn't believe in the power of 1248 01:30:30,719 --> 01:30:37,360 the W show audience so yeah I'm I'm I'm 1249 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:40,280 pumping you guys up here 1250 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:46,320 Logan from Tech Syndicate is giving away his car so this is this is already crazy 1251 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:53,719 and then he got even crazier he's hand delivering both his car his personal 1252 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:56,440 vehicle and a gaming PC to the winner 1253 01:30:53,719 --> 01:31:02,199 and anywhere in the contiguous United States I think Canada was actually also 1254 01:30:59,719 --> 01:31:07,320 included but then the craziest thing he said was hey lonus do you mind 1255 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:12,639 mentioning it on the W show and I kind of went oh yeah no problem dog but you 1256 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:16,960 know um should I should I kind of get everyone to Zerg rush it all at once or 1257 01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:21,639 should I try to like spread it out a little bit so they don't all go at once 1258 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:23,320 and he kind of went wo audience come on 1259 01:31:21,639 --> 01:31:28,600 they're not going to all hit our site at once sign up for this contest and uh and 1260 01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:33,040 you cause any problems with our server so we are going to stress test the tech 1261 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:38,800 Syndicate server because I want all of you guys to go sign up to win a car and 1262 01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:43,199 a gaming PC of course if you qualify for the contest so please crash their 1263 01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:46,679 website is basically what we're asking I'm saying please go to their website 1264 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:54,480 I'm saying please crash their website but do it by registering and signing up 1265 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:54,480 for the yep wrecked is it down 1266 01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:05,679 yeah I kind of knew that would happen oh good work everyone okay guys 1267 01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:11,840 seriously though the contest going the contest isn't uh the contest isn't over 1268 01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:13,600 now so wait a couple hours go back make 1269 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:17,920 sure you sign up this is a really cool giveway keep trying until you get 1270 01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:21,320 through don't wait a couple hours and uh what's really neat about it is not only 1271 01:32:19,639 --> 01:32:24,440 will Logan be hand delivering your system but Josh from fractal is going to 1272 01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:30,719 be coming for the road trip they're going to be making a video about the whole process 1273 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:35,000 of driving the car and the gaming PC out to you I think it's a really cool 1274 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:39,280 giveaway if able to get to if you're not able to get to the page right now this 1275 01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:43,119 is what it looks like uh win Logan's car and a game they can through anyways 1276 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:46,880 because they can sign up on Facebook right yeah they can sign up on Facebook 1277 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:54,040 they can sign up of the entries through Facebook so uh here let me just 1278 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:56,159 see go 18 ways to enter so complete the 1279 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:59,639 entries to unlock 12 more ways to enter so guys definitely check it out I think 1280 01:32:57,679 --> 01:33:02,840 this is really cool and of course you know we've worked with Logan not that 1281 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,520 long ago and we had that whole successful Highlander thing so we 1282 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:10,679 definitely want to make sure that we're throwing some love is way here and you can win a car you can win a car this is 1283 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:15,119 the coolest package for someone who's like just at their license level yeah or 1284 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:18,719 like a student that's what I mean though because a lot of students are like 1285 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:23,560 working summer jobs so they can get PCS and don't have a car so if you get a car 1286 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:26,600 and a PC all in one drop it's just like oh 1287 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:30,480 actually have like spending money well I don't know if uh I don't know if it's 1288 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:34,760 the most sensible Prize Package because as soon as you get that new gaming PC 1289 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,760 you're not going to want to go 1290 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:42,360 anywhere that's a good point actually that is a pretty good point and they 1291 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:45,199 stayed in their dorm forever 1292 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:52,040 forever when I had my mineral gaming PC and I was at um university living in 1293 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:53,320 dorms I didn't even need a car I didn't 1294 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:58,760 have it on the road I could have afforded to insured at that point in time but I was just like n i don't go I 1295 01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:03,600 just buy groceries like it's not that big of a deal all right our next crazy 1296 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:07,600 announcement here guys is the winner of 1297 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:10,560 the Rog G550 JK gaming notebook from 1298 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:16,600 Highlander did not respond so we are redrawing it new 1299 01:34:14,199 --> 01:34:20,480 winter time see we even called this because they only had one Post Yeah so 1300 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:25,360 like it's highly possible that they just won't come back here we go so let's uh 1301 01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:30,239 we'll redraw in real time here guys so here's the post 611 pages so first we're 1302 01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:35,560 going to do a random.org and I'm going to try not to do it wrong this time here 1303 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:40,440 we go you did it wrong yeah cuz I had us hiding it in the corner oh I was like 1304 01:34:38,440 --> 01:34:44,679 I'm going to do this live so they can validate the results I'm looking here so 1305 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:50,280 I didn't even notice I know Nick pointed it out to me and I was like oh oops so 1306 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:57,080 first we're going to pick a page page eight wow one of the very early entrance 1307 01:34:54,320 --> 01:35:01,520 is going to win you can just change your yeah but then I have to type 1308 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:07,159 page yeah I can never remember if it's like a dash or a slasher yeah yeah yeah 1309 01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:13,560 all right so here are the potential 1310 01:35:07,159 --> 01:35:20,760 winners settigs 333 Josh noodle Eli wood 1311 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:24,880 dedicator Linux user speezy J shadow FR 1312 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:29,719 Javan Deathwing 72 the Gunslinger with 1313 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:34,199 an underscore monop polo 11 Master Wars 1314 01:35:29,719 --> 01:35:39,760 Olive with a three and hippo 2626 Mike 1315 01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:43,280 theore boss froggy 12 Cole yah hore and 1316 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:45,199 P super one of these folks will be the 1317 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:52,840 winner so let's go ahead and do another random.org this time from 1 to 20 and 1318 01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:52,840 actually on the screen 1319 01:35:55,239 --> 01:36:07,239 seven seven I don't remember who that was all right let's count down from 1320 01:35:59,239 --> 01:36:10,560 seven one two three four five six 1321 01:36:07,239 --> 01:36:12,440 Jess another one poost Wonder so it's 1322 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:17,400 technically possible so it's technically possible te that we'll be drawing this 1323 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:21,840 again in a week uh I'm just going to go ahead and why is the oh right cuz I'm 1324 01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:25,560 not uh not signed in just copy his name somewhere we also have footage of it 1325 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:30,480 Nick to I'll get Nick to deal with it yeah there we 1326 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:33,040 go winner boom so you'll be contacted 1327 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:36,960 via the Forum and if you don't draw then it'll be bad for you and not for 1328 01:36:34,719 --> 01:36:41,880 everyone else we've got someone Leia is awesome in the chat saying I won OMG so 1329 01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:47,440 hopefully that's you the totally not similar at all username throws me to 1330 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:52,480 assume that it might not be that person yeah probably not the same person all 1331 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:56,199 right well unless we have anything else I think that's it for the w show thank 1332 01:36:54,040 --> 01:37:01,840 you guys so much for tuning in we can go through build logs of the month kind of 1333 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:04,360 can we yeah kind of oh all right hit it 1334 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:09,119 I I've have decided that as I am obviously very terrible at doing it whoa 1335 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:14,760 whoa whoa whoa whoa sup you're not on okay cool yeah don't worry um yeah you 1336 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,760 want to do that thing yes I do 1337 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:22,159 yeah oh no okay give us this that guys don't worry dog it's all good why is my 1338 01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:25,400 phone ringing go away whoever you are your phone is ringing because do you 1339 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:30,719 want to answer it yeah I want to answer it here go for 1340 01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:33,030 it do you realize he's at 1341 01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:39,239 work it's my 1342 01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:47,280 mom you can't figure out how to win the car oh oh I guess you would beig speaker 1343 01:37:45,719 --> 01:37:53,520 phone okay yeah here hold on I'll put you on speaker yeah there we go hello 1344 01:37:54,080 --> 01:38:00,599 wait there's an echo hold on hold on why is there an echo because I got a delay 1345 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:04,880 on this end oh okay okay you muted us on that end now okay good all right caller 1346 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:11,520 you're live on the W show what would you like to say I went to the tech Syndicate site to 1347 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,520 try to have it 1348 01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:23,920 die we tried to I was trying to help make it 1349 01:38:20,599 --> 01:38:26,239 die but I'm on there but I don't see 1350 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:33,679 where's the contest thing um okay it's the it's the link 1351 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:35,760 down below so I think you have to log in 1352 01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:39,599 you want to like them on Facebook like fractal design on Facebook you have to 1353 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:43,679 do a bunch of uh a bunch of Facebook stuff you want to check out the YouTube 1354 01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:47,639 link to the uh to the to the car giveaway so the actual YouTube link that 1355 01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:51,719 has the video embedded in it at the top of the page you want to check that out 1356 01:38:49,719 --> 01:38:55,440 and uh I haven't actually entered I don't think I would be eligible I don't 1357 01:38:53,719 --> 01:38:58,719 think I would either so I so I I hadn't actually tried I just assumed it was 1358 01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:04,080 pretty self-explanatory but apparently it's it's a little difficult but I don't 1359 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:09,719 want to like them they're the other guys no they're good guys there's nothing 1360 01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:14,760 wrong with liking them besides you can unlike them after the 1361 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:18,199 contest okay there that's a good idea 1362 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:20,920 okay oh no all right thank you we'll 1363 01:39:18,199 --> 01:39:27,599 talk to you later bye Mom okay oh no all right are you ready 1364 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,840 to do builds of the week sure um I think 1365 01:39:27,599 --> 01:39:33,360 their sight's back up I think they're all good now I think so yeah yeah all 1366 01:39:31,599 --> 01:39:38,119 right so they actually handled it surprisingly well recovery time very 1367 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:43,800 good very good recovery time so I got to give Logan props their site actually I 1368 01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:47,040 I'll call that held up like I think if a site goes down or slows down for like a 1369 01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:53,000 minute when it's getting hit really hard it's not really that big of a deal that's not that big of a deal so I got 1370 01:39:49,719 --> 01:39:55,480 to give them props there all right oh 1371 01:39:53,000 --> 01:40:01,119 wait no I don't think it's up oh never mind maybe that's why she can't get to 1372 01:39:57,199 --> 01:40:04,480 it okay fewer props anyways moving on um 1373 01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:07,400 I guess we need to am I still why does 1374 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:07,400 it do this 1375 01:40:07,719 --> 01:40:15,280 sometimes what you doing bro uh sometimes Chrome Will Will just decide 1376 01:40:13,239 --> 01:40:19,119 that you are logged in oh I know you can be like sign out and then you load like 1377 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:22,440 a different page and it's like nope I know you're signed in and you don't even 1378 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:26,360 have like other Chrome browsers open elsewhere it's just random all right to 1379 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:30,920 screen we can screen share the screen so as you guys can see 1380 01:40:29,239 --> 01:40:34,599 we're looking at the results of the voting thread posted by someone that 1381 01:40:32,599 --> 01:40:40,560 wasn't me so that actually got posted and now uh there's there's a small group 1382 01:40:37,719 --> 01:40:45,480 of mods that will managing this so that it actually happens um SNF won because 1383 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,599 the least surprising things ever happened this time uh because SNF I 1384 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:55,000 think this this might be like his fourth time ending up in build loocks like geez 1385 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:59,239 and like the winning percentage is pretty impressive yeah with a full 37 1386 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:03,199 and a half percent of the votes yeah it's kind of amazing though as I'll 1387 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:09,040 scroll down there to check it out so snaf gotot came in first and then second 1388 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:11,239 place was enthalpy with 1389 01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:15,320 Noctua so I'm assuming there is a massive amount of Noctua fans on his so 1390 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:19,679 this is sn's build we're just going to look at a single picture which just like 1391 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:24,719 oh my goodness every single time I see his builds I wish I could personally 1392 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:30,400 bring myself to take the time to plan out all these fittings yeah but just 1393 01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:34,760 like it's kind of amazing I there's no way I could do that lot of beautiful 1394 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:38,400 machine kind of awesome really like the 1395 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:39,800 two reses that looks really cool yep and 1396 01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:44,679 since you're the one actually screen sharing for a change they can actually 1397 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:47,719 see the mouse yeah when I when I do this 1398 01:41:44,679 --> 01:41:49,800 yep oh man he just consistently has 1399 01:41:47,719 --> 01:41:52,960 really nice builds what a gorgeous machine I don't even really know what 1400 01:41:51,639 --> 01:41:57,199 else to say a lot of times I have like Fe feedback and it's just like no you're 1401 01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:00,400 Spectre Pro fans are pretty badass they actually perform reasonably well a lot 1402 01:41:58,719 --> 01:42:03,560 of people don't know that they actually have good static pressure and just 1403 01:42:02,119 --> 01:42:07,639 generally they're quite quiet they undervolt reasonably well they're quite 1404 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:11,560 excellent fans and they look really nice they look really really nice I I'm not 1405 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:14,920 sure if the build quality of them is quite up to what I would say is like 1406 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:18,440 best think because there's two different yeah they're a two-piece fan and so they 1407 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:23,760 kind of have a lot of flex to them like even when you're screwing them in you can see the whole frame Flex um but 1408 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:27,920 that's really my only complaint about yeah I have some of them in terms of 1409 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:34,840 like 140 mm fans in mind what do we got next NOA NOA by enpy find it that would 1410 01:42:33,239 --> 01:42:42,000 have won if I was picking them just because it's called Noctua project blank 1411 01:42:38,119 --> 01:42:45,880 has a lot of Noctua fans where is 1412 01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:48,679 it uhuh that's something we should maybe 1413 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:52,119 is it actually project blank I don't think so oh that it must be this ah it's 1414 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:56,119 cuz there's single screenshots I'm tripping myself out we're good I got it 1415 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:59,400 so this is the single screenshot that was submitted for this build I do 1416 01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:03,360 believe unless this is also his yes it is this is why this is confusing there's 1417 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:11,320 only supposed to be one what are you doing wher um anyways 23 nocas in a 1418 01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:14,119 custom Loop all 23 nocas are on external 1419 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:19,000 radiators wow is that just like is that your your personal is that in your 1420 01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:25,679 multi-million dollar house no my multi-million house multi-million dollar 1421 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:27,080 house would have um like a like um it 1422 01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:31,400 would have a fluid to fluid heat exchanger and then it would have one 1423 01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:34,480 Loop that goes underground so that it's actually just cooled by the Earth and 1424 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:39,639 then it would have another loop that exchanges heat with that one so that's how I would get all the system heat out 1425 01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:46,320 of my house perfect that's how that would work obviously okay I should have 1426 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:48,040 known I'm sorry duh yeah duh Oops du 1427 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:53,360 that's pretty freaking cool yeah that's badass I like that he's actually like 1428 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:54,920 showing off his rig very in the open I 1429 01:43:53,360 --> 01:44:01,119 also really can appreciate those quick disconnects cuz those are like my favorite thing ever now people like 1430 01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:05,239 shirt off for Riot I'm sweating so much that if I took my shirt off I would just 1431 01:44:02,679 --> 01:44:12,000 be so shiny the camera would like he was oiled yeah because I'm feeling the exact 1432 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:14,760 same way maybe he is yeah oh man this 1433 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:21,480 looks cool I wonder if I want to know if he would do it 1434 01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:23,280 differently who with the industrial fans 1435 01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:27,960 h because I think with going with this 1436 01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:32,760 theme I think he's fully embracing the Noctua of it considering he even called 1437 01:44:30,679 --> 01:44:36,480 it that y I don't know I don't think he would do it differently but I would like 1438 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:41,280 to hear from him maybe if he PMS me or something anyways I think that's it for 1439 01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:45,760 us all right thanks for tuning in guys I hope you enjoyed the show as much as we 1440 01:44:43,599 --> 01:44:52,599 enjoyed the show we'll see you guys next week same bat Time same bat Channel 1441 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,599 peace out bye everyone 1442 01:44:54,639 --> 01:44:58,800 dang it there we go