i'm trying to figure out how exactly it is with six sticks
that they're getting to 16 gigs of RAM
no i think it's two times four and then there are wait two times four
it would be and then i think there are four yeah four or two is that what you said four tvs yeah sorry yeah i think
that's it oh so that means only the first
eight gigs are at quad channel speed
actually i don't know if this generation even worked like that i might be better
off pulling out the uh the two mismatched ones
we're gonna see if we can get a deal on this stuff to make it like properly make
sense um because the pricing differences between
the two are very close so we'll see what
we can do
could you do a power supply and the 950
for 90 bucks
i know it's a little rough but the the original power supply you offered me was the 875 watt so if i take one of the
lower wattage once yeah yeah every same place so we can choose
way but okay yeah i was just saying if i took a
worse power supply from the used bin maybe that could make more sense
sorry that's okay all right
what can you do for me i want i need a power supply and i want
to go with the 950 if possible i can make it a 100 100 bucks yeah
okay yeah let's do that
they've got two thousand dollars to build the best bang for the buck pc but
they have to do it without internet they've got three days to do it and on
the fourth day we find out who the winner is in this edition of scrapyard
wars brought to you by dbrand
so geek wasn't able to help me out personally but to their credit this has
been about the smoothest experience i've ever had setting up a scrapyard wars
pewter i threw in my drive
threw in my graphics card popped my install media in
and Windows is installed
i was really worried that 60 gigs might
cause Windows 10 to throw a little fit
but apparently it's above the minimum so
it's a bit of a concern that even though this is a 3.7 gigahertz processor we're
sitting at ninety percent
literally installing
a.net framework patch
and a game on steam
does epic games launcher really use that much
CPU what so there was tax i was kind of hoping it
wasn't going to charge me tax but you know that's good be legal all that kind of stuff it ended up at a price of about
112 dollars which if i bought it at full price
without a discount it would have been 110 so i basically got tax removed by a
tiny little bit of haggling so
now we need to return the CPU cooler and
try to get someone to buy at least the hard drive that will probably have to be
done tomorrow because i think we're pretty close to out of time so
i'm not the most confident with that decision because it's a pretty low end
graphics card but realistically due to how the testing is laying out cinebench
is one third of the total score so buying a really
overpriced graphics card could really throw my scores out of whack so i went
with the cheaper card hopefully it's okay so we're going back into canada
computers to return the CPU cooler and i'm also going to try to peddle my wares
how good is the quest for performance oh god
this is all i'm returning yeah okay
yeah yeah it hasn't been taken out of the box if there's tape on it the tape's
still there so i have a question i'm assuming your answer is going to be no
but the computer that i bought i was able to pull some hardware out of it
these things in the bag are junk and worth nothing i could tell
from the bag yeah there's a there's a a dvd drive and a 350 watt power supply
and a wi-fi dongle none of that matters i do have a brand new two terabyte hard
drive though are you trying to train me for something i'm trying to sell them to
you okay um sell them to me yeah yeah okay so i
found a guy to buy the hard drive and my mystery bag of components which is the
dvd drive power supply and wireless card his name
i'm giving him the hard drive for 25 bucks which is a pretty killer deal and then the mystery bag for 10 which is
much less of a killer deal but 35 bucks for me which helps a lot so here's all
your stuff which i guess is gonna be annoying to hold while you get the money out oh that's so good
35 perfect there we go thank you very much
have a good one we are leaving now to go back
to the office because we are done the computer at the office works
and we just returned the cooler which
saved us 20 and at a computer store i was able to find
someone someone random and i sold all of that
for 35 dollars so it's day four
we've got a system already i'm really not used to this um
and all that is left is to see if there's any optimization and tuning that
we can do to squeeze out some better benchmark scores
okay so everything should be in the advanced tuning tab i actually haven't
really used extreme tuning utility before
so okay and a big surprise to no one
multiplier is not unlocked it is really looking like there is not
going to be a whole lot that we can do in here okay
i'm trying not to be disappointed by this
um i mean i did say it was going to be similar to a core i7
37 that's what i said right yeah and
it is i mean obviously it's not ideal but one thing
we can do is we can pull out those oddball memory sticks
go back down to eight gigs and see if having some of our RAM
running in dual channel or something was affecting our performance
this is interesting so now we're up to 6.59
is a significant improvement before it was 6 37
so we have gained a total of 25 points already which might not seem like a lot
but when you've only gotten 600 now we're going to shut it down again
and we're going to find out if in our workloads where we don't
really need four channels worth of memory bandwidth
we would actually be better off with the latency advantage of just two sticks
because eight gigs of RAM should be enough for all of our workloads
and there we have it we have made up the difference
between our CPU and the 3770
one cinebench point and all we had to do was go down from
quad channel memory to dual channel memory i think we're probably gonna run
everything with eight gigs 25.41 stock
our score hardly changed at all
setting our GPU to be overclocked i don't even know if it actually turboed
any higher so we've got a frame rate counter up here one quick
way to have a look at what your sort of CPU bottleneck is is to look at
something not very graphically demanding like off into the distance so it looks
like we're limited to probably around or just up at the sky
box around 200 frames per second max
then what we want to do is we want to put ourselves in a position where there's a bunch of
characters character models tend to be
some of the most demanding things to render so let's jump out and let's uh let's get
near some character models and see how that affects things
is changing the resolution to 4k and seeing how that affects it
that'll actually tell us a lot about how CPU bottlenecked we are
show me a big FPS drop
okay that's not as big as i would have liked
but we are also not quite as CPU limited as i might have thought
we would be so our GPU usage oh
okay no we're pretty bottlenecked so our GPU is only sitting at around 70
tops at 1080
and it's at a hundred percent at 4k
and our CPU usage yeah you can see it's really using
up to three full cores or more
and then CPU usage drops down to not being a bottleneck at all at 4k
so if we were running at something like 1440 we'd really be getting the most out
of our hardware okay here's a nearby landscape we're at about
180. going back down to 1080
200 plus okay
landscape's good building's bad how about trees okay so here's some
trees over 200 oops
160 trees very good
so basically pure GPU
let's look at grass
150 190.
okay grass good tree's good
and like here 120 looking at an actual
you know more representative of gameplay scene
here's my problem we crank that to 1440p
120 no difference whatsoever
whereas if we went down to 1080 but we cranked it to epic
100 FPS now we're GPU limited and if we go and
we look at afterburner our GPU usage has spiked up to around 90 percent
i wish we were running at 1080 high
even 1440 high that the system could do it so i ran into a minor problem where
you can see the power supply fits in the case it's in there
but this metal tab was in the way because the old power supply was short
so this was flipped over and in the case and blocking the power supply from being
able to go to the back because it's a full-size power supply now i realized
once i slide it to the back it doesn't fit in naturally
you try to put it up here it gets stopped by some metal that's in the case
and yeah it the holes don't line up
i could force it to if i like got rid of a bunch of metal that was in the case or
i could just drill new holes in the back and just mount it where it is either of
those options would be fine both of them take time
of which we don't really have right now so my plan right now is to present the
computer in the orientation that it is which is upside down but uh
who cares not based on aesthetics so time to
move on okay so i need to figure out
how much money we actually spent
i still have a lot of this left okay this is this is what i have left
which is like yeah that's
that's a lot which is good i guess
i have to go through receipts now
so this was
the CPU cooler but i need to just ignore that because that was returned
the best fire seat that matters okay
the SSD that matters
and the power supply and graphics card that matters and then
i need to consider the 35 that i gained
if i just ignore the receipts for the cooler that's fine because we
essentially just never did that so
calculator 203
point plus
1 12
plus
equals 365.42 minus
35 bucks equals 330.
and 42 cents
i'm at like a 50 50 confidence whether or not i'm gonna win but i'm pretty
happy with what we accomplished anyways because that is a pretty banging
computer for 330 bucks and 42 cents
especially considering we had no access to the internet
i think it's pretty good okay
okay are we telling each other anything before are we telling each other how much we spent i think we should at least
take out the take off the veils oh so the way that okay so the way the spreadsheet is structured
um i'm not that good with conditional formulas so we enter the first two
scores and there's a conditional formula that says if score number three is zero then
zero so we don't get like a div divided by zero error
and then once we enter the third scores then we get a relative performance score
populated then we enter the prices
and the performance per dollar gets populated oh it can be done better than
that but it doesn't matter yeah this was the uh you know while luke was running
off to burnaby
version of the job
i liked it whatever it was okay so we're unveiling sure okay
they're both surprisingly normal except mine's upside down yeah yours has uh
yours has a case so that's an improvement over over normal that one
previous scrapyard wars oh interesting
a what where did you find one of these
oh uh oh
did i leave the price tag on the back there
am i supposed to see that i don't know
i'm assuming you didn't pay that much
i apparently have a lot of extra room hey hey hey careful now
this is some uh this is this is a thing that could have
been properly installed if i if i spent more time
yeah okay got that vga going on there
this is a Windows i think is that 10 or 8.1 i can't not
100 on that sticker i think this is Windows 10 though
so i've got a pretty good idea i think of what's going on here do you
i would bet that you can't guess what it is
what do you think it is i won't confirm or deny but no no no i want to be
surprised i want to be i want to be completely surprised
oh did you like my RAM collage that was uh that was quite beautiful it's a
collage i made it you didn't try to sell them
i mean i sold hardware oh interesting i sold like four pieces i
think interesting okay well that'll
that'll be interesting all right
iron up yeah
okay so no surprise no wait yeah yeah i don't feel sure
okay okay so there's one ASUS af machine and
one lenovo af yeah i think that's what we've figured out so
far i was i was worried that it might show a certain thing but it didn't so
it's okay you see the name of the computer there
yeah all right
so uh first up cinebench i actually haven't loaded that yet
it's downloaded okay okay
i think i'm gonna be watching this uh extraction performance here
probably gonna go pretty slow that is pretty slow
it's actually slower than i expected that's very slow
i bet you can't guess what i have in there is he on
i don't know i'm pretty sure it's a zeon is it i
think i saw it on the oh no i just said Intel all right
is it is it easy on i don't know i don't know i don't know either on your mark
get set a bunch
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link below oh oh no oh no my friend
oh no yeah this score will be pretty bad
oh no that was the first square that started that just finished
oh okay
i think a gamble that i made
might have paid off here but it comes down to price
to performance that's why i'm not necessarily freaking out yet i'm still a
little bit freaking out but like i'm not entirely gone at the moment
all right
how did you end up with change
i just need to okay all right do that wait i need to find my phone sorry
one sec i decided yeah i had to pull my phone out of all my money
sorry it's a difficult life so what's your score people say mo money no
problems i didn't realize finding your phone would be part of it okay okay yeah
i'll cover it too this is going to be really bad
okay 668. 299.
that doesn't have me too freaked out yet i have a lot of money
more than double the cinebench score
okay i gotta get my uh my spreadsheet here um i need my laptop
cinebench Linus 668 is that what i said hold on don't look
668. so hold on hold on hold on i'm verifying for the for the camera here
there it is 668.
okay and luke your score was i believe 2.99 checking yeah 2.99
all right oops
pretty close to the price of my computer okay you ready to run or walk as it were yeah
yeah i know three two one leisurely stroll begins now
this is the like smell the flowers computer yeah
and all your money because it smells like maple syrup this is the smell the
burning rubber a computer
if this is anything other than pure storage
i could win it yeah okay
my storage is not that fast
that's higher than i was hoping mr moneybags
i really wanna that's the thing that's why i was wondering if we should reveal
the price beforehand no no because this is so blind this is very blind this
entire competition from the start you can't use the internet you can't use
maps and the price is flexible is has been
such like a blind competition hold that thought
do you have a paper map i don't think i would have been able to
find what i was trying to find even if i had a paper map so i don't think it
would have made a difference okay so you can't use
certain kinds of maps
where did you get a phone book
oh that is awesome that is great
it's huge that
is what she said
and that is half of the lower mainland
gas station the phone book too uh that was a longer story
i'm gonna make you watch that one yeah okay that's fair
so you're allowed to use maps just not electronic ones
that one's pretty slow
that's not pretty no that one is pretty slow
but what i'm really wondering is if i spent too much
the fact that he's running around selling stuff is a bit of a wild card i
sold a oh does it no it doesn't nope we're good
so i have to be under half your cost i guess that's the
whole thing right now that's the way it's kind of looking here
yeah so we'll have to see how that lines up but that might be possible
okay so three two unsure Linus
thirteen five one nine
and luke five two one six
it only sort of all comes down to this because
we don't know we don't know the price what the other one paid
i am starting to worry on that front though based on the sticker that i saw
in the back but we'll see one thing i deviated from all medium on was view
distance i don't fall medium all medium
what were you doing i'm gonna cry um
i don't have my phone i'm pretty sure you said hi though 1080 high trick
that's fine i don't i think that's probably better for you at this point
i'll take whatever you want but
okay so things i changed i turned motion blur off because motion
blur is garbage and i set view distance to epic because you should never play a
competitive game without maximum views bro you said hi
okay that's fine i just clicked the high button
okay so fine fine fine i'm down with turning motion
off yeah right because that's a standard we've like literally always had all
right all right all right well i think view
distance is pretty important in fortnite but you know if we die because of that's
a lot higher than me you know uh here we go you ready uh
three two one go
when do you wanna jump um and where do you wanna go you can go
anywhere you want uh call it
let's go to that part of the lake okay three two one go
so we're going to the top of the lungs it's like a little tree
oh crap you're diving really fast which one the one at the very corner that tree
that tree okay i see you you're a little bit in front of me
i think being in the air has an advantage
i'm not even kidding come on so i hope i didn't dive too fast
oh yeah these things take forever to hit the ground and i don't know how to make it go any faster i think if you go
forward it goes down a bit faster i'm not sure though
okay i'm following right behind you whoo i'm trying to follow right behind you
okay so you know what you lead i'll follow okay
let's go up here and chop this tree down in the distance
most enthralling benchmark ever hold on a second that means i have a model in my
screen and you don't nope nope hey hey
i stopped you can catch up
okay let's just take this you take the one on the right oh sure okay
and then we'll chop the big one together okay
teamwork makes the dream work keep running straight sure okay why
don't we go loot that thing the warehouse thing yeah
just making sure i'm in your screen here
there's no okay this red barn there's got to be something in this area fine
go a little bit more into my screen
there you go
oh the benchmark's over is it oh wait how long did you set yours for three
minutes 180 seconds yeah unless i didn't check the check box
oh that's fine we can still uh we can still figure it out
do you want to check okay let's all tab out i might not have
checked the like stop benchmark after box yeah i didn't i'm apparently pretty
rusty what's going to happen when we enter these values is it's going to give us a
total relative score okay
so it's like out of 10 in all of these i'm assuming right out of 100 yeah yeah and it's uh the
highest score is 100. okay
uh 147.78
and then 67.87
well that's better than i thought it was going to be watching it running mine yeah yeah
i knew that one no i mean it's worse than i thought it was going to be better
for me that makes
sense okay
so tense right now how do i copy
copy okay okay so here we go
i am pasting them paste special paste values only
okay so yeah so it's not
if i if you spent half as much you're done
but if you spent a third as much i got slayed
how much should you spend okay how much should you spend
should we should we say what's in it first and then how much sandwich we
spent sure all right all right do you want to crack my panel first
here comes the panel crack i will say one thing before we even open this up
yeah this is cool and i'm happy you got it because that's
pretty cool the second i saw it i was like all right that's pretty sweet
i definitely never saw any of these on my travels
what the heck okay oh what is that
what card is that i'm running uh they
that price tag why didn't you have that ramen that price tag had some of the
information oh i might have thrown it away but it's uh if i recall correctly it's a
zeon 1620 v2
okay it's a quad core eight thread
3.7 gigahertz my power supply is better than yours
is 80 plus gold a lot actually
all right not that it matters at all 3.7 gigahertz
ivy bridge so it's basically a 3770
at least it was once i removed this RAM
so quad channel has a bandwidth advantage
but dual channel has a latency advantage so it came with 16 gigs
two by four and four by two
so i'm just running eight gigs of RAM because
for the benchmarks we're running i don't need this
and that's why i didn't sell it because i was testing those scenarios up till
today um other than that it is stock lenovo
workstation other than the x110 60 gig
SSD 60 gig how much does that cost you 10 bucks
oh my god i thought i got a really good SSD deal apparently not
um and this how much okay how much extra room
not much i want to see i want to see i don't even have the other drive plugged
in everything fit
this is a gtx 1070.
how much did that cost you i'm not going to tell you that just yet
that could hopefully make me happy okay okay i
don't know though all right well it's upside down um i
think i have some idea what it is because i went to best buy
and they had two of something they had two guess what it
is i think it's a 7 800
a10 yep
damn it we thought about that too i was like they wouldn't tell him
i called to check stock
how much do you think i got it for 269.
okay that's not right but oh
interesting it's like pretty far off
but like actually a lot like i'm not i'm not even kidding
am i lying brandon he's shaking is it okay that's potentially a problem
i do have a dope power supply okay and my SSD costs like four times as much as
yours okay i don't know your graphics graphics card
was impossible sorry yes graphics card was very hard graphics
card is that where you were in burnaby today uh no oh
interesting yeah i was selling stuff
a 950 did you buy it new no
that okay the power supply you keep talking about this power supply
look at the modular what is this thing even it's from an alienware
it's 875 watts it's actually like a pretty good it's like modular but it
only has one shot
okay he wanted to sell me a 550 watt power supply for 30 bucks and i
was like well that's bs so i got this one for 30 bucks
it's a good deal the SSD was full 50 bucks after tax i
had to buy one new i really couldn't oh you bought an SSD new i did
so it must be like 120 is that the only thing i think that's the only thing i
bought new and yeah it's 120. how much do you think i got the card for
so a 1050 new was like 160
or something when i went to the store yeah
i hope you paid a hundred dollars for it no
crap like a
chunk down yeah okay
how much did you spend on your system honest
i spent 7.70 i mean
darn all right
there you go 3 30
42 oh yeah
oh my god you won wait what
score per price
wait this might screw that up i think you screwed that i think my formula
might be broken i think you screwed that up hold on a second hold on a second i
think you screwed that up because i'm pretty sure i needed to beat you by more than that in terms of price
i think you won i think you just did the formula wrong wait no a total score per price would be
yeah higher would be okay hold on a second h3
over i3 h2 over i2 yeah because all the scores
are off by more than half wait no no no no no because that's way more than
double oh 660 versus 770.
how did it get that close
good job bud
but Jake brought it home oh
thanks jay you inspired me to double it up good game bud
by point one
i was okay i was talking to brandon i was like this is going to be the first season that it's not even close one of
us is just going to slay the other one and then it wasn't
i want to know if i would hold on a second no no put in 35 on top
of mine oh no you're done you're done at 365 for sure so me selling the stuff at
the very end is what made me win so i paid an extra
10 over my initial offer for the system that would have put me at
39.5 i let them talk me up ten dollars so
that you letting them talk you up ten dollars and me selling a wireless card a
dvd drive a 350 watt power supply and a
two terabyte hard drive for 35 bucks which is actually a killer deal for him
because the hard drive is what won it those two little deals is 770 right ed
i paid 360 for the box oh this is where it's gonna come out
wait did he not spend that much hold on a
second how much did i pay 360 for the tower
no i paid yeah 400 for this and 10 bucks for my SSD yeah
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description i felt like i was gonna get duped
no no no i got duped
and i didn't negotiate the video card at all
it was such a great price that i was just like 400 bucks
that's a pretty good price for a 1070.
all right give me your trophy so i can give him
his do i get this one
limited edition typo trophy
yard wards yep this might be the closest one yet
is it i think we've had multiple that were down to point one i think that's
down to variations in the benchmarking like this one was close
good job nice try i like your computer and that
was an insane competition i'm honestly surprised that we both came
out with like actually what i think is really good rigs even if we were allowed
to use online 404 success not found
offline on point congratulations on your triumph
that's cool all right gg bro you know what forget it fortnite
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