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tired of getting tea bagged disappointed by dim HDR

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well microsoft wants you to have one less excuse for being terrible with a

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designed for xbox display theoretically you can trust your tv to deliver

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exceptional response times breathtaking visuals and even immersive sound but is

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this program all it's cracked up to be to find out i've got three of them lined

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up right here and you see this little sticker right there look at that cute

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little xbox sticker spoiler alert in spite of that being

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there at least one of these is absolute

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this is not the first time a console maker has taken a crack at making or

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certifying a tv nintendo and sharp teamed up to make a tv in the 80s with a

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built-in nes sony made the terrible but

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at least interesting playstation 3d tv that allowed two people to game

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simultaneously for some reason okay that thing was cool you're wrong objectively

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wrong and there's also the more boring but

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more practical playstation tv but what we've got here is

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less like those and more like a certification program which makes me

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think of things like the vasa display HDR standards or the blurbuster seal of

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approval and the basic premise of the designed for xbox display program is

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pretty sound microsoft's basic pitch is

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that finding a tv that delivers a great gaming experience is a bit of a pain in

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the butt and honestly i agree with them it's easier than ever to show up at

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costco grab whatever tv looks decent for the price and end up with a very solid

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tv that kind of sucks for gaming you might

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get misled by its 120 hertz capabilities

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that rely on motion smoothing or find out that the picture is good because of

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a bunch of image processing that adds 50 to 100 milliseconds of delay essentially

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making every game feel like jello no matter how many FPS your fancy new xbox

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series x is putting out so

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here's what you have to have to meet the design for xbox display program you must

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support HDMI 2.1 HDR 4k at 120 hertz and variable refresh

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rate now most of this is really good in fact the fact that consoles now support

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120 hertz and variable refresh rates will legitimately make your gaming

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experience feel smoother but i do wish that microsoft had gone a

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bit further specifically with the HDR requirements more on that later let's

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start by taking a look at our first monitor here the philips momentum 559

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m19 yv wow what a mouthful but i already

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kind of love it because look at this matte screen

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how often do you see that these days that's freaking awesome and there's a

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lot more to like here it's got a va panel with 95 coverage of the dci p3

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color space so that's 125 of srgb it's

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display HDR 1000 certified with a peak brightness of 1200 nits they claim a

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4001 contrast ratio with a delta e of less than 2 and it has philips's cool

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ambiglo feature which makes it so that the wall behind it and you won't see

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that because we actually went and put our own light back here but the wall

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behind it will kind of match what is being

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displayed on the screen i'm sorry did i see in the notes that the sound bar is

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like bowers and wilkins collaborated or something yeah really huh it actually

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sounds not bad yeah i mean bowers and wilkins it's like

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i wouldn't describe it as value from my experience

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but damn daniel

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oops

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shortcut i definitely feel the slow pixel

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response times of the va panel you do

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you don't no david

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back me up here

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well i mean like i measured it

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what do you think the pixel response is on this

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i would say somewhere in the neighborhood of like eight milliseconds

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5.2 is what i measured well but they're both bad

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i mean depending on pricing okay like if we're coming in way cheaper than

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something like an OLED and if my installation is gonna be in a brightly

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lit room i might be willing to make that trade-off right or if all i do is game

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and i'm really concerned about things like my hud getting burned in

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okay right you've got my attention but it's

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it's noticeable maybe open up halo all right forza is notorious for

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motion blur okay that's fair that's fair maybe some

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of it is just forza being a smeary mess you know what you're right the

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smeariness is not nearly as bad wow he died

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the smeariness is much much better it's definitely still there especially if you

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compare to something like an OLED but it's absolutely usable this gives us an

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interesting opportunity to have a look at its full array local dimming

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performance it's only got 48 zones which basically means that under normal

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circumstances when you're looking at bright content like this

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probably won't be that noticeable but if you've got black bars yeah you can

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really see that's not really black it's more like

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it's more like a glow i mean to be clear it's not

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the same kind of glow you get from like an ips glow

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but it's if you're in a dark room you'll notice it yeah so the price of this is sixteen

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hundred dollars which is pretty much exactly the same as

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an lg c10 that's 55 inches

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that's a bit of a problem yeah it's funny to me given how hard

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microsoft worked to support dolby vision on the xbox series

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that it's not part of the requirements but i can also kind of see why because

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my understanding is it's quite a lot harder for tv manufacturers to implement

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and they wanted to be able to have as many partner devices as they can with

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that in mind let's move on to one of the other partner devices shall we next up

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we've got the rg strix xg43uq this one's 4k

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144hz though it is limited to 120 on the xbox also a va panel 1000 nitpick

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brightness only 90 coverage of dci p3

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but they claim a delta e of less than

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one and we actually measured 1.05 which isn't what they claimed but is still

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really impressive it's edgelit which means that we're

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probably not going to see the same kind of contrast that's a very unusual thing

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for an HDR display meaning i guess we better fire up a game here and

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see if it actually manages to look very HDR

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my expectations are extremely low i think i've already figured out which one's the poo poo one alex

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yeah did i did i do that

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try out the uh remote okay

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try out the remote you know i think wow what what it worked

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it's never worked for me oh really

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oh oh now it's not not doing anything else

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oh my god i already see it alex

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this display has a bit of an unusual subpixel arrangement so instead of RGB

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it's bgr and among other things it can make text

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look kind of weird but i actually noticed it just on like the edges of

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objects yeah we can inspect it further later

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but that is what i have in there like clear type

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you can make text better in Windows but for like games browsers

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video it just looks bad interesting

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if i had to guess i'd say it's probably worse than the other one

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what'd you measure so they claim one millisecond response

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time and that's one millisecond

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moving picture response time okay so which is pretty dirty

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response time it's actually 6.9 milliseconds

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milliseconds okay all right which is fine for a va panel but if you're

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comparing it to something like an OLED you're not you're not really there

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the thing is though you can't buy an OLED at this size so if you want

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something smaller you're going to be stuck with something not OLED

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yeah you can you can even see it here david do you see that how the leading

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edge of this text is blue and the trailing edge is orange

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it's there my eye can definitely most definitely see it

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bottom line is the color accuracy is great but at a price of 1300 us dollars

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you shouldn't buy this you should spend the extra couple of bucks for one of

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these or an lg c10 or c1 all right let's

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find out how damn cool acer's xv 282 k

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is oh why this not wait what we need to science this we need to show people why

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this sucks so bad oh we do okay yeah i want to just put it on the floor i

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brought a microscope in here you did yeah look at this all right fine one

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option to show you this would have been a macro lens but we wanted to go more

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hardcore than that with a really really really macro lens

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got the microscope okay you ready

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are we going to be able to okay here we go oh jeez boy wow that was

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that was really close yeah basically that's what i was talking

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about before it's all bluey on one side

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and orangey on the other side really it's only when you're looking at

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something white on a different background

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which makes sense because that's when all three sub pixels are going to be going full bore

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let's move on this is our first ips panel of the bunch it's 4k 144 hertz as

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well again 120 hertz on xbox 10 bit color

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only 400 knit peak brightness aka HDR

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rent and the only difference from the non-xbox version appears to be that it

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has a green accent here rather than a red one they boast a

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delta e of less than one we measured one point three which isn't less than one

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but is still excellent and it's got an i

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save panel which means it's approved by two

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tuv yeah sure uh basically means less

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blue light emission and it's supposedly better for your eyes

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now one thing i'm not really sure what to expect from it

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is smeariness i wonder if i just have a preference

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for ips panels because honestly it feels

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less smeary to me than those vas even though i can see

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that you said it actually has the worst

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response times out of the three yeah i also didn't have a problem with

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this one at all and the other ones i didn't really like

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weird yeah it's like measurably worse

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but and yet here we are yeah it's just way better to use it goes to show you that

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the actual science of benchmarking something like response times is

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incredibly complicated and one measurement can't tell you the entire

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story because the user experience of this one is miles better missed

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opportunity by the way alex LTT Store desk pad

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it's not here your console gamer that's okay um you can get a t-shirt

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ltdstore.com the HDR experience is basically not HDR

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it's taking in an HDR signal but at nine hundred dollars my

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expectations are that you're going to need to have some kind of whether it's

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per zone or per pixel dimming in order

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to get that that high dynamic range right it's not

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just about that it's not bright enough it's about when you're

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in a forest like this and the sun is shining through the trees and

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illuminating the leaves and glinting off the trunks you're not getting that effect there's

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no impact from it to be clear it's not bad my biggest problem with this display

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is that it's being marketed as an xbox

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gaming display like it has other cool features it has a built-in kvm so if you

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have if you're a developer let's say who also games it's

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4k you know high refresh rate uh you can have your two machines both hooked up to

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it simultaneously and quickly switch between them

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that's super cool i don't know if it's 900 super cool to you but the fact that

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it's HDR support is so bad means that if

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i don't get a value out of those additional features and the color

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accuracy for that matter i i just don't really i just don't really

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see it so bottom line

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what does the xbox certified

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sticker mean kind of not much yeah especially because

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we've found better xbox gaming tvs and monitors that do not have the

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certification yeah that's like a good monitor and a

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bad gaming display it's kind of rough yeah just like this

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OLED burning we talk a lot about how great OLED displays are but we don't

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always talk about the dark side of OLED displays

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they are very dark that's true