tired of getting tea bagged disappointed by dim HDR
well microsoft wants you to have one less excuse for being terrible with a
designed for xbox display theoretically you can trust your tv to deliver
exceptional response times breathtaking visuals and even immersive sound but is
this program all it's cracked up to be to find out i've got three of them lined
up right here and you see this little sticker right there look at that cute
little xbox sticker spoiler alert in spite of that being
there at least one of these is absolute
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this is not the first time a console maker has taken a crack at making or
certifying a tv nintendo and sharp teamed up to make a tv in the 80s with a
built-in nes sony made the terrible but
at least interesting playstation 3d tv that allowed two people to game
simultaneously for some reason okay that thing was cool you're wrong objectively
wrong and there's also the more boring but
more practical playstation tv but what we've got here is
less like those and more like a certification program which makes me
think of things like the vasa display HDR standards or the blurbuster seal of
approval and the basic premise of the designed for xbox display program is
pretty sound microsoft's basic pitch is
that finding a tv that delivers a great gaming experience is a bit of a pain in
the butt and honestly i agree with them it's easier than ever to show up at
costco grab whatever tv looks decent for the price and end up with a very solid
tv that kind of sucks for gaming you might
get misled by its 120 hertz capabilities
that rely on motion smoothing or find out that the picture is good because of
a bunch of image processing that adds 50 to 100 milliseconds of delay essentially
making every game feel like jello no matter how many FPS your fancy new xbox
series x is putting out so
here's what you have to have to meet the design for xbox display program you must
support HDMI 2.1 HDR 4k at 120 hertz and variable refresh
rate now most of this is really good in fact the fact that consoles now support
120 hertz and variable refresh rates will legitimately make your gaming
experience feel smoother but i do wish that microsoft had gone a
bit further specifically with the HDR requirements more on that later let's
start by taking a look at our first monitor here the philips momentum 559
m19 yv wow what a mouthful but i already
kind of love it because look at this matte screen
how often do you see that these days that's freaking awesome and there's a
lot more to like here it's got a va panel with 95 coverage of the dci p3
color space so that's 125 of srgb it's
display HDR 1000 certified with a peak brightness of 1200 nits they claim a
4001 contrast ratio with a delta e of less than 2 and it has philips's cool
ambiglo feature which makes it so that the wall behind it and you won't see
that because we actually went and put our own light back here but the wall
behind it will kind of match what is being
displayed on the screen i'm sorry did i see in the notes that the sound bar is
like bowers and wilkins collaborated or something yeah really huh it actually
sounds not bad yeah i mean bowers and wilkins it's like
i wouldn't describe it as value from my experience
but damn daniel
oops
shortcut i definitely feel the slow pixel
response times of the va panel you do
you don't no david
back me up here
well i mean like i measured it
what do you think the pixel response is on this
i would say somewhere in the neighborhood of like eight milliseconds
5.2 is what i measured well but they're both bad
i mean depending on pricing okay like if we're coming in way cheaper than
something like an OLED and if my installation is gonna be in a brightly
lit room i might be willing to make that trade-off right or if all i do is game
and i'm really concerned about things like my hud getting burned in
okay right you've got my attention but it's
it's noticeable maybe open up halo all right forza is notorious for
motion blur okay that's fair that's fair maybe some
of it is just forza being a smeary mess you know what you're right the
smeariness is not nearly as bad wow he died
the smeariness is much much better it's definitely still there especially if you
compare to something like an OLED but it's absolutely usable this gives us an
interesting opportunity to have a look at its full array local dimming
performance it's only got 48 zones which basically means that under normal
circumstances when you're looking at bright content like this
probably won't be that noticeable but if you've got black bars yeah you can
really see that's not really black it's more like
it's more like a glow i mean to be clear it's not
the same kind of glow you get from like an ips glow
but it's if you're in a dark room you'll notice it yeah so the price of this is sixteen
hundred dollars which is pretty much exactly the same as
an lg c10 that's 55 inches
that's a bit of a problem yeah it's funny to me given how hard
microsoft worked to support dolby vision on the xbox series
that it's not part of the requirements but i can also kind of see why because
my understanding is it's quite a lot harder for tv manufacturers to implement
and they wanted to be able to have as many partner devices as they can with
that in mind let's move on to one of the other partner devices shall we next up
we've got the rg strix xg43uq this one's 4k
144hz though it is limited to 120 on the xbox also a va panel 1000 nitpick
brightness only 90 coverage of dci p3
but they claim a delta e of less than
one and we actually measured 1.05 which isn't what they claimed but is still
really impressive it's edgelit which means that we're
probably not going to see the same kind of contrast that's a very unusual thing
for an HDR display meaning i guess we better fire up a game here and
see if it actually manages to look very HDR
my expectations are extremely low i think i've already figured out which one's the poo poo one alex
yeah did i did i do that
try out the uh remote okay
try out the remote you know i think wow what what it worked
it's never worked for me oh really
oh oh now it's not not doing anything else
oh my god i already see it alex
this display has a bit of an unusual subpixel arrangement so instead of RGB
it's bgr and among other things it can make text
look kind of weird but i actually noticed it just on like the edges of
objects yeah we can inspect it further later
but that is what i have in there like clear type
you can make text better in Windows but for like games browsers
video it just looks bad interesting
if i had to guess i'd say it's probably worse than the other one
what'd you measure so they claim one millisecond response
time and that's one millisecond
moving picture response time okay so which is pretty dirty
response time it's actually 6.9 milliseconds
milliseconds okay all right which is fine for a va panel but if you're
comparing it to something like an OLED you're not you're not really there
the thing is though you can't buy an OLED at this size so if you want
something smaller you're going to be stuck with something not OLED
yeah you can you can even see it here david do you see that how the leading
edge of this text is blue and the trailing edge is orange
it's there my eye can definitely most definitely see it
bottom line is the color accuracy is great but at a price of 1300 us dollars
you shouldn't buy this you should spend the extra couple of bucks for one of
these or an lg c10 or c1 all right let's
find out how damn cool acer's xv 282 k
is oh why this not wait what we need to science this we need to show people why
this sucks so bad oh we do okay yeah i want to just put it on the floor i
brought a microscope in here you did yeah look at this all right fine one
option to show you this would have been a macro lens but we wanted to go more
hardcore than that with a really really really macro lens
got the microscope okay you ready
are we going to be able to okay here we go oh jeez boy wow that was
that was really close yeah basically that's what i was talking
about before it's all bluey on one side
and orangey on the other side really it's only when you're looking at
something white on a different background
which makes sense because that's when all three sub pixels are going to be going full bore
let's move on this is our first ips panel of the bunch it's 4k 144 hertz as
well again 120 hertz on xbox 10 bit color
only 400 knit peak brightness aka HDR
rent and the only difference from the non-xbox version appears to be that it
has a green accent here rather than a red one they boast a
delta e of less than one we measured one point three which isn't less than one
but is still excellent and it's got an i
save panel which means it's approved by two
tuv yeah sure uh basically means less
blue light emission and it's supposedly better for your eyes
now one thing i'm not really sure what to expect from it
is smeariness i wonder if i just have a preference
for ips panels because honestly it feels
less smeary to me than those vas even though i can see
that you said it actually has the worst
response times out of the three yeah i also didn't have a problem with
this one at all and the other ones i didn't really like
weird yeah it's like measurably worse
but and yet here we are yeah it's just way better to use it goes to show you that
the actual science of benchmarking something like response times is
incredibly complicated and one measurement can't tell you the entire
story because the user experience of this one is miles better missed
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ltdstore.com the HDR experience is basically not HDR
it's taking in an HDR signal but at nine hundred dollars my
expectations are that you're going to need to have some kind of whether it's
per zone or per pixel dimming in order
to get that that high dynamic range right it's not
just about that it's not bright enough it's about when you're
in a forest like this and the sun is shining through the trees and
illuminating the leaves and glinting off the trunks you're not getting that effect there's
no impact from it to be clear it's not bad my biggest problem with this display
is that it's being marketed as an xbox
gaming display like it has other cool features it has a built-in kvm so if you
have if you're a developer let's say who also games it's
4k you know high refresh rate uh you can have your two machines both hooked up to
it simultaneously and quickly switch between them
that's super cool i don't know if it's 900 super cool to you but the fact that
it's HDR support is so bad means that if
i don't get a value out of those additional features and the color
accuracy for that matter i i just don't really i just don't really
see it so bottom line
what does the xbox certified
sticker mean kind of not much yeah especially because
we've found better xbox gaming tvs and monitors that do not have the
certification yeah that's like a good monitor and a
bad gaming display it's kind of rough yeah just like this
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