looked at his original tests last week on AMD's Dual Graphics or the ability to
basically run your integrated GPU and your discret GPU that's like an addin
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showed you the numbers that we got in a couple of games with AMD's latest fa
7850k Apu alone that Apu running with a
discrete graphics card an r7250 running by itself and we showed you what it's
like when we pair them together in dual Graphics mode well you guys asked for an
expanded test so we've thrown two more discrete graphics cards into the mix an
r7260x and a GeForce 750 Ti and we've
thrown in more CPUs so we've got a 4670k
that's a Core I5 from Intel that we' run with discreet and on board a 6800k so
that's AMD's own last generation Apu and
an Athlon 760k which is a very inexpensive CPU
from AMD with no onboard Graphics at all
but based on the same architecture as that last gen Apu now before we dive
into this I want it to be clear that cavar has other benefits that are not
being tested in this video HSA or heterogeneous system architecture allows
the GPU cores on Andy's latest Apu to be utilized for General productivity tasks
much more efficiently efficiently than previous architectures allowed it can
share system memory rather than having data copied back and forth between the
CPU and GPU RAM over the PCI Express Bus
which opens up a whole new world of cooperation between your CPU cores and
your graphics cores this enables today
better performance with some image filters improved thumbnail Creation in
Windows better performance in Libra office and some other things but HSA is
mostly about the future with some very exciting developments such as opencl 2.0
with a compliant driver expected in early 2015 and all that good stuff the
bad news is that we'll have to wait for software development to catch up but the
good news is that application developers and compiler writers should if AMD is to
be believed find it easier to code for HSA systems which should help Drive
adoption with all of that aside if you're a value gamer and you're looking
for a system today what do you buy well we saw your comments on the previous
video and on the Forum and science wins so I was let loose and I was able to
test almost all of the things all right guys as these graphs are a lot more
compact with data than our normal graphs I'll give you guys some tips on reading
them fairly standard Fair the CPU and GPU are listed on the left hand side so
you can see what row that correlates with to help you guys differentiate
between the rows I've also color coordinated each row with based on its
CPU not its GPU so you can see how the different CPU combinations stack up that
way also there's a dollar value right beside the name of the combination and
that dollar value is an estimated guess based on numbers that I pulled from
newegg.com so these are American prices if you're an international viewer I
would highly suggest when you get to the dollar per performance graphs later on
that's the second set of two that you base them based on uh numbers in your
own region also these dollar values do not include the cost of the motherboard
as that can vary quite a bit and was not a super important variable in these test
I'm sure you guys will come up with your own conclusions and let me know in the comments below and on the Forum and all
that kind of stuff but here's some conclusions of my own that I gathered from looking at my graphs after I made
them there seems to be a sweet spot for both of these games in Far Cry 3 that
sweet spot is about $7 while in BioShock that sweet spot is about $5 that makes
sense because bshock infinite is easier to run than Far Cry 3 Therefore your
dollar per performance goes down which is a good thing um but you're going to
need to be able to run certain games so it all kind of makes sense although be
completely honest for most of these setups the price that you're paying
you're getting 1080p on high at no problem so it makes a ton of sense uh
especially one last thing personally I would not buy a solo 4670k for gaming by
that I mean 4670k and no discrete graphics card it does not perform very
well and personally I'd rather pay less than a 4670k and get a 760k and an
r7260x or pay $10 more and get a 760k
and a 750t and get even more performance on top of that that see makes a lot more
sense to me but again just let me know what you guys think in the comments down below and on the Forum so a main
takeaway I would grab from this is that going back a few generations and
grabbing a processor from that time at a really low price and then buying a nicer
more powerful graphics card and pairing those two together is an awesome
combination and you get a lot of power for your price with that combination
another thing is that 1080p gaming has been never this viable at a price point
like this you can run games at high at 1080P and get epic frame rates that's
really cool to see because value gaming has always kind of been a shove under
the bus but now you can go with a very nice resolution very nice settings at a
very nice price point and have a really good experience and the word console
killer was brought around a lot when the consoles were first coming out and we
all knew it would be easier to surpass consoles later on down the line I didn't
realize it would be this fast with certain setups that we have in this
video Even and with 750 Ti 750
and 260x now taking up bat it's really
easy to actually just beat the absolute crap out of a console a lot of console
games aren't running at 1080P and they're not running that fast and with a
setup like this you can run it at really good frame rates at 1080p at high
settings with AA on and all that kind of stuff so it's a very interesting setup
and I hope you guys are going to take advantage of this kind of stuff if
you're building a console build in the future just so you guys know as well our
Star team is in second place and I know most of the times I upload a video and
call it what place we're in it's inaccurate but I think this might be the first time it's actually accurate so be
sure to join up we're going to have a lot of fun and the dog fighting module should be coming around sometime around
April 18th so Luke's testing reveals a bit of a problem with the way the term
value gets thrown around to describe inexpensive products volume is not the
same thing as cheap I understand that
for some people they're going to have $300 to spend on a PC and even if they
could have something 10 times better for another $10 that won't be feasible so
they will need to settle for the reduced price to Performance ratio of a cheap
computer for those folks who do have the regular income that would allow them to
save a couple more allowances or skim some money off a couple more paychecks
the advice I've always given wait until you can afford something decent
continues to ring true grabbing a cavar
today and running with on board then upgrading later with a discret graphics
card does make a fair bit of sense if you're impatient and you don't want to
wait to save up another $60 to $70 for the cheap CPU and mid-range GPU up front
but make sure that when it comes time to upgrade to a mid-range GPU you are
picking one based on its individual merits not just based on Dual Graphics
compatibility the r7260x or the 750 Ti cannot take
advantage of the onboard graphics for you know and ened gaming the way the
r7250 can but because they're so much
better it doesn't matter this may change in the future when the onboard can be
used for AI or something as a co-processor but we're still a fair way
away from that and if you're buying a graphics card today for games you can
play now and you want the most for your money then you're going to want to get a
proper discrete graphics card just like has been the case up till now sorry dual
Graphics uh you're just not the most for my money at this point in time speaking
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