WEBVTT 00:00:00.140 --> 00:00:05.270 - My previous beef with the OneXPlayer has been that it uses Intel Xe graphics, 00:00:05.270 --> 00:00:12.550 which granted is plenty fast, but has cost some driver snags that we've run into. 00:00:12.550 --> 00:00:17.550 This version, whoa, not only does it have a massive, 00:00:17.940 --> 00:00:22.940 nearly nine inch screen, this is an 8.4 inch IPS display, 00:00:23.020 --> 00:00:28.020 but it now uses a Ryzen 5000 series mobile processor, 00:00:28.540 --> 00:00:32.180 the 5700U. So packed within this... 00:00:32.180 --> 00:00:36.410 Wow, dual fan cooling? This thing is sick. 00:00:36.410 --> 00:00:41.410 Packed in here are eight CPU cores, eight Vega GPU cores, 00:00:42.460 --> 00:00:47.460 this gigantic 2560 by 1600 resolution display, 00:00:47.870 --> 00:00:52.753 and actually, those are some pretty nice feeling ABXYs. 00:00:53.700 --> 00:01:00.860 Little bit of a mushy D-pad. Ooh, triggers and joysticks, feeling pretty good. 00:01:00.860 --> 00:01:04.600 Oh, I wanna get this fired up now. Okay, hold on, first though, 00:01:04.600 --> 00:01:08.334 let's see what's inside. Instructions. 00:01:08.334 --> 00:01:11.410 (gasps) It has a night mode switch. 00:01:11.410 --> 00:01:15.470 This is one of my big complaints about the AyaNeo 2021, 00:01:15.470 --> 00:01:19.510 as well as the AyaNeo Next, it doesn't get dim enough when I'm playing at night, 00:01:19.510 --> 00:01:24.360 which a lot of the time is when I'm playing. So I wanna know all about night mode. 00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:30.820 Just wait, it mutes. Oh, I thought maybe it would turn down the display. 00:01:30.820 --> 00:01:34.043 Oh, it's for the fan. Oh, all right. 00:01:34.043 --> 00:01:36.453 Well, I got really excited, but it's a fan profile. 00:01:41.140 --> 00:01:44.690 Ooh, what's in here? Charger. Oh. 00:01:44.690 --> 00:01:48.960 Oh, I did not have to do that at all. (crew members giggle) 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:51.660 This is a compact looking charger though, I like that. 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:57.100 That's sick. This has gotta be like a gallium nitride charger 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:00.210 or something. Ah, it's only like 65 watts. 00:02:00.210 --> 00:02:04.108 Maybe not. Maybe not. Where's my, where are my plugs at? 00:02:04.108 --> 00:02:09.040 (groans) Oh really? Okay, let's talk IO here. 00:02:09.040 --> 00:02:14.220 It's got dual USB three point, whatever the crap they call them at this point, 00:02:14.220 --> 00:02:19.820 one of which is marked for power input and the other one's not, which makes me kind of wonder, 00:02:19.820 --> 00:02:24.040 will they not both accept a power input? I don't know. That one definitely does. 00:02:24.040 --> 00:02:27.510 And that one appears to too. The light turns on regardless. 00:02:27.510 --> 00:02:33.130 A type A, super nice to see, micro USB, headphone microphone combo jack, 00:02:33.130 --> 00:02:36.680 you got your shoulder buttons, got your triggers on the back. 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.290 No rear buttons like the Steam Deck, but there's our night mode, little mute thing. 00:02:40.290 --> 00:02:44.130 It does warn you that the unit will get hotter if you put it in night mode. 00:02:44.130 --> 00:02:48.780 Got our volume up and down where they're out of the way. Fingerprint sensors, as well as power button. 00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:53.060 Then on the bottom, you've got this little magnetic interface for like a keyboard dock thing. 00:02:53.060 --> 00:02:57.850 They didn't send over one of those, so I can't show that to you. And no bottom USB ports. 00:02:57.850 --> 00:03:01.560 That's one of the things I really like about the AyaNeo, is depending on where I'm using it, 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.563 sometimes I like to have the charger plugged into the top, sometimes I prefer the bottom. 00:03:06.900 --> 00:03:10.000 With both the OneXPlayer and the Steam Deck, 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.340 you are stuck plugging in on top, which in this particular circumstance 00:03:14.340 --> 00:03:17.620 is actually kind of inconvenient. Ah yes, and we should talk 00:03:17.620 --> 00:03:23.970 about what makes the OneXPlayer AMD version special, because this thing is crazy, freaking powerful. 00:03:23.970 --> 00:03:28.380 It's got a Ryzen 5700U, which is about a hundred megahertz slower 00:03:28.380 --> 00:03:32.760 than the 5800U that's in the AyaNeo Next, across the board. 00:03:32.760 --> 00:03:36.910 But it's got the same 8 CPU core 16 threads, 00:03:36.910 --> 00:03:40.040 and the same 8 Vega GPU cores. 00:03:40.040 --> 00:03:44.090 They're just clocked a little bit slower. And what I would be interested to see 00:03:44.090 --> 00:03:48.930 is how that works out in the real world, because what I suspect, once we open this thing up, 00:03:48.930 --> 00:03:53.040 is that we are gonna find a much, much beefier cooling solution. 00:03:53.040 --> 00:03:59.330 I mean, there's already two fans and two heat sinks, compared to one fan and one heat sink, right? 00:03:59.330 --> 00:04:03.180 Ergonomics, pretty good. Like the AyaNeo Founders though, 00:04:03.180 --> 00:04:07.320 it's got kind of a sharp edge on the bottom where your palm is, 00:04:07.320 --> 00:04:14.070 and the weight is substantial, but not as much more as I would have expected, 00:04:14.070 --> 00:04:18.260 given the dramatically larger screen. Now, one a really cool thing 00:04:18.260 --> 00:04:25.470 about having such a high resolution screen, 2560 by 1600 at this size is flipping crazy, 00:04:25.750 --> 00:04:29.470 is that you don't have to run it at that. You can run it at 1080p, 00:04:29.470 --> 00:04:34.900 you can run it in 720p. And because the pixel density is so high, 00:04:34.900 --> 00:04:38.120 you don't get the same kind of really awful interpolation 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.880 that we used to get way back in the day when we tried to run non-native resolutions. 00:04:41.880 --> 00:04:45.530 To be clear, it's still not gonna look as sharp as it would if it was at native res, 00:04:45.530 --> 00:04:48.770 but it's a lot less bad. If that kinda makes sense. 00:04:48.770 --> 00:04:53.770 So here's the OneXplayer AMD, 821 grams, 00:04:56.020 --> 00:04:59.210 AyaNeo Next, 717. 00:04:59.210 --> 00:05:02.360 So this is definitely a hands on the table 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:05.760 kinda gaming device. The additional size though, 00:05:05.760 --> 00:05:09.280 makes it feel like it's balanced, 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:12.950 it's a balanced heavy, not like a super dense heavy. 00:05:12.950 --> 00:05:16.620 For now, these black bars are a good opportunity to look for backlight bleed. 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:23.250 Obviously, this isn't a darkened room or anything like that, but if it was nearly as bad as the AyaNeo Pro 2021, 00:05:23.250 --> 00:05:27.920 it would be noticeable here. And I'd say, yeah, there's a little bit of backlight bleed, 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.333 but not much. Pretty good show. 00:05:32.090 --> 00:05:36.160 Definitely appreciating the front-facing speakers compared to a lot of the other handhelds 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:40.650 that I've checked out lately. Makes a big difference to the spatiality. 00:05:40.650 --> 00:05:43.860 Ooh, their vibration motors are getting pretty good too. 00:05:43.860 --> 00:05:48.860 Okay, so we're managing anywhere from around 50 to 55 FPS, 00:05:49.200 --> 00:05:52.593 even in these busy areas. Not bad. 00:05:52.593 --> 00:05:56.533 That is certainly, certainly playable. 00:05:58.630 --> 00:06:06.140 Let's go through some trees there. I saw a little bit of a stutter there, but, man, are AMD's GPU drivers ever an improvement 00:06:06.140 --> 00:06:11.140 compared to Xe, from my limited time with them. 00:06:11.290 --> 00:06:15.250 I mean, just all those years of experience, they show, right? 00:06:15.250 --> 00:06:19.203 I wanna see if we can manage 1920 by 1200. Let's see how bad this is. 00:06:20.440 --> 00:06:23.790 Ooh, that's a lot sharper. I don't think this is gonna be... 00:06:24.630 --> 00:06:30.700 Yeah, okay. If you're already with 30 FPS, that's actually not bad. 00:06:30.700 --> 00:06:33.183 And remember, this is at medium settings. 00:06:34.080 --> 00:06:37.610 I would take the lower resolution, personally, but if you're playing this game 00:06:37.610 --> 00:06:42.203 more for the eye candy of it, then this is definitely more eye candy. 00:06:47.020 --> 00:06:50.330 Pretty darn quiet. Like here, can you even hear that, Andy? 00:06:50.330 --> 00:06:54.780 You can hear it? Okay, yeah. I'm liking the dual fan cooling solution for sure. 00:06:54.780 --> 00:06:58.920 It seems like the one on the right's doing the bulk of the work. I'd be interested to see how the heat pipes are laid out. 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.870 We will get it opened up. Don't you worry, guys. I do like the cooler display profile 00:07:02.870 --> 00:07:08.300 that OneXPlayer's using on their units compared to the warmer display profile that Aya's using. 00:07:08.300 --> 00:07:11.700 Holy crap, this performance though. 00:07:11.700 --> 00:07:16.930 Wow, in spite of the OneXPlayer AMD having a lower tier processor, 00:07:16.930 --> 00:07:19.970 it is sitting, looking down the same road 00:07:19.970 --> 00:07:26.640 in nearly the same spot, getting about 20% more FPS. 00:07:26.640 --> 00:07:30.450 We're talking 45 versus 55 FPS right now, 00:07:30.450 --> 00:07:35.090 sitting here in this same spot pretty much. That's flipping crazy. 00:07:35.090 --> 00:07:39.210 I guess extra cooling's a good thing, right? Hold on, let me make sure I'm in the right performance. 00:07:39.210 --> 00:07:43.127 Lemon power saving. Okay, that was close. 00:07:43.127 --> 00:07:50.030 (Jono laughs) And the AyaNeo Next is out ahead of it by three FPS. 00:07:50.620 --> 00:07:56.830 Okay. Yeah, it's just out, maybe like two FPS out ahead. 00:07:56.830 --> 00:08:00.630 Not much, but it is out ahead now. Now we could run some more games, 00:08:00.630 --> 00:08:03.692 but I think you guys wanna see what makes it tick. 00:08:03.692 --> 00:08:07.360 iFixit wants you to help join the right to repair movement. 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:12.400 They make it easy to prepare your own devices by following their step-by-step guides, 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:17.230 to replace integrated batteries and get more life out of the stuff that you own. 00:08:17.230 --> 00:08:20.490 Check out how iFix can help you repair your devices 00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:26.060 at the link in the video description. They've got over three thousand guides, they've got their ASP tools, with lifetime warranties, 00:08:26.060 --> 00:08:27.803 all that good stuff. 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:32.500 Yeah, iFixit. Oh, by the way, since we're back here, 00:08:32.500 --> 00:08:36.680 now is as good a time as any to talk about this sweet kickstand. 00:08:36.680 --> 00:08:40.420 Clearly OneX, whoop! Clearly, OneXPlayer noticed 00:08:40.420 --> 00:08:44.870 that this thing's a bit of a chunk, so they put a nice little kickstand on the back. 00:08:46.062 --> 00:08:51.062 So you can adjust it at any angle you want. Boom! You're ready to game, boys. 00:08:51.062 --> 00:08:54.963 Wait, was that a Nintendo trademark? Please, Nintendo, be nice to me. 00:08:55.889 --> 00:08:59.050 - [Jono] I thought it was a- - Aah! Well, there's the ribbon cable 00:08:59.050 --> 00:09:02.683 for our power button and touch, wow, this is a, 00:09:02.683 --> 00:09:07.683 holy bananas, that is a big battery, okay. 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.310 Well, there may not be a performance advantage compared to the AyaNeo Next, 00:09:13.310 --> 00:09:17.010 but that battery is flipping huge. 00:09:17.010 --> 00:09:20.280 And I would expect that to be an advantage. 00:09:20.280 --> 00:09:23.410 That is a 58.9. 00:09:23.410 --> 00:09:27.530 It's nearly a 59 watt hour battery. That is, 00:09:27.530 --> 00:09:31.170 that's like over 25% bigger. I would expect a solid, 00:09:31.170 --> 00:09:35.980 anywhere from a half an hour to 40 minutes to even up to another hour of battery life 00:09:35.980 --> 00:09:39.920 out of this guy. There's our front-facing speakers. 00:09:39.920 --> 00:09:44.750 This looks like our vibration motors right here on these little, like, foam dampers. 00:09:44.750 --> 00:09:48.060 Definitely a little less clean on the internals 00:09:48.060 --> 00:09:52.480 and way more work to swap up the SSD. There's a one terabyte SSD in here, 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.130 but with the AyaNeo Next, I've actually upgraded it to an eight terabyte SSD, 00:09:56.130 --> 00:10:00.310 'cause it's super easy to get at once you're inside. A little bit more involved, 00:10:00.310 --> 00:10:04.900 but it is definitely something that could be done. You just have to pull off these fans. 00:10:04.900 --> 00:10:10.270 And then presumably, this buddy right here, which has the heat pipe running over it as well. 00:10:10.270 --> 00:10:14.840 I don't think it's happening today, but this does give us a good look at the mechanism for the trigger buttons here. 00:10:16.310 --> 00:10:19.560 Oh, and the specs. I know the RAM wasn't on the spec sheet, 00:10:19.560 --> 00:10:22.636 but it's 16 gigs, Jono. It's on this little label inside. 00:10:22.636 --> 00:10:26.200 (Jono laughs) - [Jono] Nice. - We'll check what frequency it runs at 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.270 when we put it back together here. I do like how easily the back cover comes off of this one 00:10:31.270 --> 00:10:36.640 compared to the Mini, which I also opened up and had these like double-sided tape tabs 00:10:36.640 --> 00:10:39.970 that I had to pull off the top and the bottoms. So this is really nice. 00:10:39.970 --> 00:10:44.693 They both have this cool button. So the bring-up-the-desktop button now. 00:10:46.110 --> 00:10:51.010 On the OneXPlayer, it's this guy right... Hello? At least I thought it was. 00:10:51.010 --> 00:10:55.090 Man, I'm super confused now. Yeah. See, this one does it. 00:10:55.090 --> 00:10:59.520 I gotta assume that that's just a temporary nonsense thing. 00:10:59.520 --> 00:11:04.660 There's no way that that's not gonna work. So the other buttons we have here are the turbo button, 00:11:04.660 --> 00:11:07.970 which is gonna run our CPU in its highest performance profile, 00:11:07.970 --> 00:11:11.410 obviously on a device like this. That means the GPU as well. 00:11:11.410 --> 00:11:17.250 And this keyboard button, which seems to have the long press configured to... 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.257 Okay, yeah, now I'm like super confused. (chuckles) 00:11:22.257 --> 00:11:26.970 I don't know what that's supposed to do right now. Okay, now my controls are all over the place. 00:11:26.970 --> 00:11:34.440 What is this right analog stick doing? Oh! Oh it does have a built-in joystick to mouse thing. 00:11:34.730 --> 00:11:39.144 I've just activated it, through a long press, maybe? 00:11:39.144 --> 00:11:44.090 (Jono laughs) Yes! I think a long press activates that. 00:11:44.090 --> 00:11:49.080 Okay, well that's actually, maybe pretty cool, I guess. 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:51.713 Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go. 00:11:52.882 --> 00:11:56.933 Oh, that's sick. I love the size of this screen. 00:11:58.160 --> 00:12:01.970 Like seriously, man, are you seeing this? 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:05.050 You know what's another thing that's really nice? I can really feel it. 00:12:05.050 --> 00:12:08.550 This display, great input lag. 00:12:08.550 --> 00:12:11.640 Like, even though I'm running it 00:12:11.640 --> 00:12:14.980 only 40 to 50 FPS right now, 00:12:14.980 --> 00:12:18.993 it just feels really responsive, like really good. 00:12:20.383 --> 00:12:24.680 Whops. Whoops, whoops, whoops. Wait, is this shoulder? Oh no, I broke this trigger. 00:12:24.680 --> 00:12:28.150 I wanna put it back together. I didn't put it back in right. 00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:32.870 Ah, shoot. Okay, well, we'll have to fix that later. 00:12:32.870 --> 00:12:37.240 Okay, what's the memory running at? 4266, so same as the AyaNeo Next 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:41.280 and the last Gen products for that matter. In a nutshell, performance is similar, 00:12:41.280 --> 00:12:47.360 but it's gonna come down to what kind of a form factor you want. Do you want the large 8.4 inch display? 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:51.680 Do you want the compact seven inch display with of course the associated challenges 00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:55.100 that come with both of them? One of the things that's actually been kind of annoying for me, 00:12:55.100 --> 00:13:00.000 I've been playing through Final Fantasy Tactics on this thing, and getting at the select button, 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.210 eh, it's kind of risk breaking actually. 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:07.560 That's not a problem that you'd have on a device like this, where they're both easily accessible. 00:13:07.560 --> 00:13:10.870 But, I think this would dig into your palm a little bit more 00:13:10.870 --> 00:13:16.800 and obviously it weighs considerably more, about a hundred grams or like a fifth of a pound, 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:23.430 for our Yankee friends. Both of them are freaking cool and both of them are way more expensive than the Steam Deck. 00:13:23.430 --> 00:13:27.080 Although the difference is that these actually exist, 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:31.110 and the Steam Deck, unless you've already ordered it many months ago, 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:35.650 is not gonna be shipping to you anytime soon. So how desperate are you to play your PC games 00:13:35.650 --> 00:13:40.260 on a handheld device at freaking anywhere from 30 to 60 FPS, 00:13:40.260 --> 00:13:44.310 depending on how demanding it is? Well, that's gonna determine whether you pull the trigger 00:13:44.310 --> 00:13:47.750 on something like one of these or wait a little bit longer, 00:13:47.750 --> 00:13:54.350 'cause we're expecting the performance of the Steam Deck to be as good or better because of its RDNA 2 graphics. 00:13:54.350 --> 00:13:59.210 Although CPU performance is actually going to be worse than either of these 'cause they both have Zen 3 cores 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:02.460 and Steam Deck is using Zen 2. You know what I want? 00:14:02.460 --> 00:14:09.440 I want the hardware of the AyaNeo Next with the more like the lower profile shape 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.680 of the original Neo. The ergonomics are definitely better 00:14:12.680 --> 00:14:16.110 in some ways on the Next, but I also find them a little bit more challenging 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:18.723 in other ways. But the hardware, man. 00:14:19.770 --> 00:14:23.600 Between these two though, boy am I ever torn? 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:27.040 The full desktop-size joysticks on the Neo Next, 00:14:27.040 --> 00:14:32.100 really nice. Definitely like the easier access to start and select. 00:14:32.100 --> 00:14:34.600 Like the front-facing speakers. That's a big deal. 00:14:35.940 --> 00:14:39.262 Like the screen color profile. Ah, I don't know. 00:14:43.875 --> 00:14:48.020 (crew members laughing) - [Jono] It's like I asked you who's your favorite kid. 00:14:48.020 --> 00:14:52.640 - I know, right? (crew members laughing) 00:14:52.640 --> 00:14:55.660 If I'm playing more sightseeing type games, 00:14:55.660 --> 00:14:59.970 like, if I'm playing like a Tomb Raider or something like that, like adventure games, 00:14:59.970 --> 00:15:05.370 playing new Psychonauts or whatever, I take this. Better speakers, bigger screen. 00:15:05.370 --> 00:15:08.990 But if portability is my main concern and I just want that performance 00:15:08.990 --> 00:15:12.410 in the smallest possible form factor, man, you cannot beat this. 00:15:12.410 --> 00:15:17.370 This is crazy. I'm gonna stick with the Neo Next. 00:15:17.370 --> 00:15:21.280 But if my SSD was in here, I wouldn't bother switching it. 00:15:21.280 --> 00:15:24.562 I think they're both excellent choices. - [Jono] I'll take the OneXPlayer, 00:15:24.562 --> 00:15:28.480 but you gotta fix the trigger. - I gotta fix the trig, you fix the trigger! 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.090 I'll take it. I'll take it off your hands. (crew members laughing) This guy! 00:15:32.090 --> 00:15:35.797 This guy here, he'll take nothing. Subscribe to ShortCircuit.