{"video_id":"lWvAslQJ9XY","title":"890FX vs 990FX Chipset With 1100T CPU Gaming Performance Comparison Linus Tech Tips","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2012-05-07T14:53:29Z","duration_s":474,"segments":[{"start_s":8.08,"end_s":14.12,"text":"now I often have people asking me about what's the best gaming motherboard or","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":12.12,"end_s":18.52,"text":"what's the best platform for gaming or whatever the case may be what I usually","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.24,"end_s":22.6,"text":"say to them is the best gaming motherboard is the motherboard that has","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.68,"end_s":27.119,"text":"all the features you want and fits all the hardware you want to put on it but","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.119,"end_s":30.439,"text":"just to demonstrate I thought I'd take a couple of gaming motherboards and 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couple of gaming motherboards and pit them against each other this is going to be a bit of an examination of the 990 FX chipset versus the 890 FX chipset so right here what I have in my hand is a Crosshair 4 formula you're going to want to come a little closer so I can show you this for it as well um and the Crosshair 4 formula is an 890fx board it's got support for USB 3 via the back panel it's got an am3 socket dual Channel DDR3 up to four PCI e6x slots although you're running at uh 16x and 16x or it's 16x 884 something along those lines yeah I think that's the uh the deal we've also got SATA 2 okay so the 89 uh the 990 FX version the Crosshair 5 formula has a bit of a sharper aesthetic all these SATA ports are changed over to SATA 3 6 GB per second now we also have an additional USB 3 front header to go with the 1 2 3 four USB 3 back headers okay it is an am3 plus socket which means that we'll have support for AMD's bulldozer 8 core CPUs when they are released so basically what is that mean in terms of its performance with a current generation processor so I thought I'd take some of the benchmarks I did before this is this is with a 6990 dual Graphics uh video card or dual chip video card we've got 8 gigs of RAM uh my usual test bench and so I thought I'd take my 1100t benchmarks with the 890 FX platform and run them against the 99 DFX to see how it goes so I'm almost done and I'll show you guys the results when I'm done and I think that if you have been following how much of an impact chipsets have on computer performance these days you probably won't find these results very surprising all right so here's my results with the 890 FX versus the 990fx chipset so I'm going to leave off crisis 2 for now we're going to return to that but let's look at the Witcher so uh yeah performs about 8% better Dirt 3 the 990 FX is a little slower Fear 3 they're identical um Battlefield Bad Company 2 the 990 FX is a little faster and Civ 5 it's a little faster so it seems to me the board is slightly faster for gaming although I can't really say with certainty that these are significantly um different enough to to be representative of the performance Delta because I didn't do a ton of runs I've had a lot of benchmarking to do this weekend so this is pretty much within the margin of error for most of them although Witcher two I have very good consistency on that Benchmark I would say that one's definitely out ahead and Civ 5 is just a late game view so that one is definitely ahead and there were they were distinctly different frame rates it's 30 constant 31 constant so there's uh not much uh room for error there um Dirt 3 is a canned Benchmark so once again although it's a caned Benchmark with AI so it runs a race and sometimes the the AI player places differently so depending on how many cars are in front of it at a time it could be slightly more or less demanding now crisis 2 this is a funny one because I'm going to have to go go back at this because crisis 2 I ran it with the uh when I was originally doing um this one with the Apu versus the 1100t I ran it with dual 69 70s and uh I was getting zero scaling on this platform so I was like okay forget it so that's when I switched to the 6990 for my standardized benchmarking platform now I got reasonable scaling with the 6990 so I was like oh okay well I mean it didn't scale great it went from like 40 to 49 FPS and then it you know this was appropriate given this but then all of a sudden I I mean I reran this again and I got the same result so for some reason this platform performed way better in crisis 2 so what I'm going to do is I'm going to throw the Crosshair 4 back on the test bench and I'm going to run crisis 2 again and see what happened because I'm not even reinstalling I'm not even changing any drivers I'm changing absolutely nothing about my Windows platform in order to switch between between 990 and 890 FX because they're actually very very very similar chipsets there's almost no difference between them so let's see what happens here guys well every once in a while you run into these bizarre things I I just did my run through again and if nothing else there it is 49.1 this uh reassures me that my crisis 2 run through is fairly um consistent so 49.1 is my new result so yeah you see this kind of thing from time to time where a particular setup is a little bit faster in you know something than another one even though they should be very similar so the 990 FX Crosshair 5 formula seems to perform better in crisis 2 with the 6990 than the Crosshair 4 formula I suspect it's just a quirk of my particular setup like I remember I had uh one of my old computers it was uh like a 939 socket 939 computer for some reason never required a password for Warcraft 3 I never never had to uh enter a CD key or rather not I never had to I never had to enter the CD so uh it would run with a with a no CD even back before that game would do it and uh you know I the computer I had before that wouldn't do it and the computer I upgraded to afterwards wouldn't do it and it was just sort of a quirk of that particular platform so there you go so those are my results for the 890 FX versus the 990 FX I would pretty much call this probably some kind of a weird glitch but the funny thing is this is like significantly more playable on this platform than like this is a crappy 50 FPS and this is a good 60 you can really feel it um in those drops so thank you for checking out my video on the Crosshair 5 formula versus the Crosshair 4 formula 990 FX 890 FX don't forget to subscribe to Linus Tech tips from more unboxings reviews and other computer videos and oh yeah here's that uh black socket indicating am3 plus compatibility very cool stuff okay this is driving me crazy I'm going to do it one more time so I put the CR the Crosshair 5 back on the bench I'm firing up crisis 2 again oh guess I'll have to restart before I do that and then uh yeah I'm changing absolutely zero game settings I checked GPU Z it's running at 16x in this slot all that stuff so let's see what happens let's see if I can reproduce these results again well I figured it out here's my result with the 990fx so 508 so I can throw this guy out because here's what happened the 990 FX board is set to the wrong date in the BIOS which caused my fraps uh results to be out of order because I sort it by date modified in order to to make it simple for me to see which is the last Benchmark I Ran So the True Result um and it must have been my imagination that it was running smoother on here the True Result is around 50 FPS and performance is equivalent thank you for your patience while I sorted out this little technical matter and I guess thanks for coming along on the ride don't forget to subscribe to lus techtips for more unboxings reviews and other computer videos"}