WEBVTT 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.000 if there's one thing people around the office know me for it's that I wear 00:00:03.780 --> 00:00:10.440 driving gloves I don't wear driving gloves anymore but I do like Logitech 00:00:08.040 --> 00:00:15.240 and I do like cars so this could be a very interesting 00:00:12.360 --> 00:00:20.100 combo this is a thousand dollar racing wheel and a 350 dollar set of pedals 00:00:18.119 --> 00:00:25.500 from a company whose last racing wheel was like 300 bucks with both the market 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:29.699 for direct drive Wheels like this has really been going up with fanatex csldd 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:35.100 I think thrustmaster just launched one a couple days ago so it'll be interesting to see how this performs because at the 00:00:32.579 --> 00:00:40.559 price point this is a hefty ask but I can't wait to check out what's inside 00:00:38.040 --> 00:00:46.200 unlike the thrust master or the fanatec options Logitech is selling this as a 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:48.660 kit so when you get the wheel which I 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:52.559 assume is this thing okay cool cool this is impressive okay the thousand dollar 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:56.699 price point I'm kind of starting to feel it all right 00:00:54.059 --> 00:01:01.800 previous generation Logitech wheel it was a good way to get into racing games 00:00:58.379 --> 00:01:04.500 but not very well built this by contrast 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:07.560 feels really nice nice buttons these paddles click the paddle David click 00:01:05.820 --> 00:01:10.740 click the paddle it feels pretty good but it's not clear 00:01:09.479 --> 00:01:14.220 if you're going to be able to buy separate Wheels I imagine because there 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:18.540 is a quick disconnect on the back of here then you can take this on and off 00:01:15.960 --> 00:01:24.479 that they will sell other cool branded Wheels that's okay this thing is massive 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:29.640 the nice thing about the fanatec option is it's pretty compact this is a bit of 00:01:28.380 --> 00:01:34.100 a chungus 15 pounds 00:01:31.740 --> 00:01:42.479 power cable and a chungus power brick 300 watts wow 00:01:39.060 --> 00:01:44.520 ah that looks like a table Mount good ah 00:01:42.479 --> 00:01:48.360 man these table clamps are always underwhelming this is a thousand dollar 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:53.640 product and it's just like it's a plastic screw and plastic housing I mean 00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:58.200 realistically if you're using a wheel like this you probably shouldn't mount it to your desk you probably got some 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:02.579 sort of like a wheel frame or something but this is a little disappointing on 00:02:00.659 --> 00:02:06.960 first glance yeah okay cool little cover it's got a 00:02:05.100 --> 00:02:09.439 little like ball bearing things to hold it in place 00:02:11.099 --> 00:02:14.900 okay it works 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:21.300 it really does work 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:25.500 it feels cheap but it does work in terms of the wheel we got our x y a b left 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:30.720 trigger right trigger since this is the Xbox version there's a PlayStation version they're the same price they do 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:33.540 both work for PC so if you play on PC you're welcome to buy whatever version 00:02:32.099 --> 00:02:36.959 you like on the inside there there's four pins those are going to connect to 00:02:35.640 --> 00:02:40.800 four little contacts on our quick disconnect it's keyed so you can't put 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:45.260 it in the wrong way so make sure you line that up and then you want to pull 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:49.140 this back hmm 00:02:47.040 --> 00:02:52.260 fanatec lets you spin it infinitely there's no stops this one does have 00:02:50.700 --> 00:02:55.019 stops but they are both direct drive this does use hall effect sensors so 00:02:54.060 --> 00:03:01.319 it's not going to wear down any potentiometers or anything like that and it does feel nice and smooth it does 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:05.160 have their true Force tech which when they describe it to me it's kind of like 00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:08.580 it's almost like having a speaker in the steering wheel that gives you these 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:12.300 finer inputs at least on their older Wheels because this one's direct drive 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:16.019 and it's just a big motor I imagine that feedback it's also probably just done by 00:03:14.340 --> 00:03:19.560 the motor um we'll have to see how that feels oh I 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:24.319 forgot there's a little OLED display on here wow that is Tiny it's got to be 00:03:21.480 --> 00:03:28.980 like this big little OLED display there Ah that's lame on the back of this for 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:35.280 connectivity they just have a bunch of USB a ports like the OG style like USB 00:03:32.099 --> 00:03:37.560 2.0 type A ports there's a micro USB 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:42.659 which is lame in 2022 this should be type c at the very least they have made 00:03:40.260 --> 00:03:46.739 this a molded cable and you can see that it matches the profile of the inside of 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:51.180 that so once you push this in it's not really going to be affected by a side to 00:03:48.420 --> 00:03:55.019 side Force but you could very well you know rip it out this way and these 00:03:53.220 --> 00:03:58.080 little prongs on the micro b Port are going to wear down over time now the 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:02.640 type A ports aren't going to be protected from left and right movement 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:07.080 so if you do wire this up man maybe just get put some cable strain reliefs or 00:04:05.340 --> 00:04:11.760 something because I can see someone very easily damaging this 00:04:08.940 --> 00:04:14.360 uh it's not even like tight fitting like 00:04:14.939 --> 00:04:19.739 kind of disappointing on a thousand dollar device hopefully the performance 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:25.380 still lives up to it there's stuff in here 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:27.780 oh this looks promising so far I'm 00:04:25.380 --> 00:04:31.020 seeing a lot of metal that's good buying pedals that are plastic and you get a 00:04:29.699 --> 00:04:34.320 ton of flex these feel pretty good though this is 00:04:33.060 --> 00:04:37.979 350 bucks this feels like a lot better value than 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:42.240 this steering wheel but I mean I guess we'll see the thing I always find with 00:04:40.139 --> 00:04:47.100 like racing pedal clutches is they're always super linear it's just 00:04:44.580 --> 00:04:51.660 like a lever when in real life your clutch will kind of you'll feel the 00:04:48.900 --> 00:04:56.400 point at which it disengages and engages the brake pedal is load cell which is 00:04:53.880 --> 00:04:59.639 cool and the gas it's okay for gas to just be a lever because in a real car 00:04:57.960 --> 00:05:04.500 that's what it is okay 00:05:00.960 --> 00:05:07.800 oh Jesus yeah replacement Springs cool 00:05:04.500 --> 00:05:10.560 and look at that replacement brake 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:15.600 um foam I don't know what you call these rubbers brake rubbers see I want to make 00:05:13.080 --> 00:05:20.759 the okay all right actually that came out really easily 00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:22.740 did I just get it stuck now oh God there 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:26.120 we go okay it's a bit tight you tighten the thing and that's good 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:34.500 oops so when you're pressing the pedal at first you feel the compression of 00:05:31.620 --> 00:05:38.520 this soft foam and then you kind of hit a wall which would be this much harder 00:05:36.840 --> 00:05:42.720 rubber there's probably a couple different presets they give you like 00:05:40.380 --> 00:05:47.639 yeah there you go they give you a chart so you can replace the pieces 00:05:45.479 --> 00:05:51.900 A and B and then you're always going to have one of these they're not really 00:05:50.039 --> 00:05:56.280 labeled though they are kind of labeled does that look like a label ah man okay 00:05:54.180 --> 00:06:01.800 Logitech again colors if the system is colors does that 00:05:59.820 --> 00:06:05.520 look like the same brown and you can almost say that that's the yellow maybe 00:06:04.020 --> 00:06:09.600 it's these are the natural colors of these materials but make sure that the 00:06:07.139 --> 00:06:13.560 color in your manual matches or at the very least dye them so that they look 00:06:11.820 --> 00:06:19.320 really different so you can't screw this up okay we can also switch the Springs 00:06:16.740 --> 00:06:23.220 yeah okay that one's white so that's the lightest one this one is brown the 00:06:21.539 --> 00:06:27.840 clutch pedal has red which is the second heaviest and the gas has yellow which is 00:06:25.919 --> 00:06:31.380 the second lightest let me put these on my feet and see how they feel 00:06:29.880 --> 00:06:35.639 man playing a racing game without a cockpit 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:40.979 kind of lame do we have room for a cockpit I do they 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:45.240 did a reasonable job with the rubber kind of anti-slide stuff obviously when 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:50.819 you're getting into it you're still gonna be pushing the pedals forward I 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:56.699 think my gas pedal is a little too firm and the clutch is a little too soft 00:06:53.880 --> 00:07:00.060 so I might swap those they feel pretty good though 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:03.780 there is a bit of play left and right not only are the pedals themselves 00:07:02.100 --> 00:07:08.039 moving but the actual like metal piece that holds them in place kind of the 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:12.240 channel that they're in is also flexing quite a bit I don't know if it's because 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:16.500 the rest of it is plastic what's holding that metal beef in is plastic oh cool 00:07:14.340 --> 00:07:21.000 the pedals are adjustable you can slide each pedal around as much as you want 00:07:18.500 --> 00:07:23.639 you can also adjust the pedal faces themselves you see that we're using 00:07:22.139 --> 00:07:28.680 these holes right now but you could move them over here over here or up there 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:33.360 anywhere you want interesting they are modular which is cool 00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:38.400 each petal connects with a little looks like rj11 or maybe RJ9 00:07:35.880 --> 00:07:44.360 kind of like a phone jack and then there is our USB which is also 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.360 micro USB again 00:07:44.460 --> 00:07:50.460 this one I think is less of a problem because there's these nice cable strain 00:07:48.599 --> 00:07:54.479 reliefs right here how are you going to screw this up 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:59.520 you're probably not going to but once you plug this other end here 00:07:57.479 --> 00:08:02.699 let's let's just demo I don't know if it's the right way if it was type c it 00:08:01.740 --> 00:08:09.120 wouldn't matter oh did I get it oh I got it 00:08:06.419 --> 00:08:13.620 all right maybe it's not so bad I'm a professional plugger into Port 00:08:11.340 --> 00:08:18.000 kind of guy okay I do this for a living okay well let's set it up with the 00:08:15.599 --> 00:08:21.300 computer and play some games God 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:26.699 ah but not before I tell you about our sponsor vessi thanks to vesi Footwear 00:08:24.599 --> 00:08:30.120 for sponsoring this video messy Footwear is known for being lightweight easy to 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:34.080 pack comfortable and most importantly water resistant with its dimetex 00:08:32.099 --> 00:08:37.440 technology their everyday move line is designed with added support at the 00:08:35.520 --> 00:08:40.560 midsole and better breathability to keep up with your active lifestyle you can 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:44.219 take them off and put them on with ease thanks to the handy pull tab and it's 00:08:42.300 --> 00:08:47.399 also made creature free so every step 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good amount of torque I like this thing we have a fanatec CSL 00:09:26.820 --> 00:09:34.860 dd2 upstairs and I think that thing can do 25 Newton meters but I usually set 00:09:31.380 --> 00:09:37.800 the peak around 12. so having your Peak 00:09:34.860 --> 00:09:41.459 at around 11 is it's pretty good the interesting thing is they call these 00:09:38.880 --> 00:09:46.200 dual clutch pedals like that's the only only car that would have paddles is one 00:09:44.760 --> 00:09:49.260 with a dual clutch okay so maybe they're not talking about 00:09:47.880 --> 00:09:54.660 a dual clutch transmission they're talking about there are dual 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:57.600 clutch pedals you can rebind them to pretty much anything it looks like 00:09:56.940 --> 00:10:02.160 um you can make them even your gas I guess 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:08.820 so because it's a load cell you can actually set the amount of force you apply 100 00:10:06.060 --> 00:10:11.880 kilograms there's no way you're going to be doing that without these mounted to a 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:18.899 frame and I don't even think you're going to be doing it even with it mounted to a frame that's 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:21.180 like 120 pounds of force uh so you play 00:10:18.899 --> 00:10:26.220 it the right pedal goes fast it's the second pedal wow thanks hey look there's 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:28.980 little bar graphs for them here gas and clutch 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:33.779 super linear clutch I don't know what the other ones are we're playing the new 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:34.920 setup Corsa competition I guess I don't 00:10:33.779 --> 00:10:39.360 know I don't speak Italian or whatever that is it has true Force support that's why 00:10:37.560 --> 00:10:42.959 we're using it I usually play regular aesthetic corset which we might try 00:10:40.800 --> 00:10:48.800 after but for now let's do this okay so I can pick a car 00:10:44.579 --> 00:10:48.800 let's do the m6 GT3 00:10:49.260 --> 00:10:53.399 ah it's so much easier to use a keyboard 00:10:52.260 --> 00:11:01.140 and mouse damn it um they're fine I guess 00:10:56.640 --> 00:11:04.040 practice yeah let's do that realism okay 00:11:01.140 --> 00:11:07.980 let's try this thing it's just like 00:11:06.300 --> 00:11:13.019 you can hear the engine through the wheel it's really weird 00:11:10.560 --> 00:11:17.519 sounds terrible yeah it's a little like much sauce honestly 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:22.560 I really don't like the true force it feels awful just the whole 00:11:20.820 --> 00:11:25.220 wheel feels like it's just vibrating constantly 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:35.880 it sounds broken oh my God it's not shaking like it's 00:11:33.300 --> 00:11:39.480 broken this is so much better oh my God oh my God I don't know why there's a 00:11:37.560 --> 00:11:43.079 racing line but whatever this is much better this is much better 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:47.880 oh my God I'm going too fast for this car uh so if 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:51.839 you slow down four turns yeah it's a great idea I should do that okay it 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:54.959 feels way better now that the whole desk and steering wheel isn't shaking like a 00:11:53.640 --> 00:12:00.240 cheap toy oh too much spice okay ow see that's 00:11:58.380 --> 00:12:05.339 what I mean like there's some there's some serious torque there 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:07.740 it's nice it feels very crisp the force 00:12:05.339 --> 00:12:13.019 feedback feels pretty good I really did not like the true Force thing in a set 00:12:10.380 --> 00:12:17.420 of Corsa or ACC wow this whole monitor is like shaky this Ikea table is not 00:12:15.839 --> 00:12:21.959 built for racing Sim it's a good amount of feedback this is 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:25.860 like as much as I would ever want it's one thing with the fan attack that I 00:12:23.940 --> 00:12:31.519 have I'm always like I just want like a little bit more feedback this is a 00:12:28.260 --> 00:12:31.519 little bit more oh Jesus 00:12:31.700 --> 00:12:39.019 oh my God feels pretty good for a 350 dollar set 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:44.579 of pedals I'm pretty happy with those surprisingly usable on a table despite 00:12:41.940 --> 00:12:48.360 the monitor like going all over the place it'll be interesting to see when 00:12:46.680 --> 00:12:51.660 there's more more wheel options I mean the stock 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:56.220 wheel feels pretty good the build quality is nice it's got I would say 00:12:54.540 --> 00:13:00.180 just the right amount of force feedback I don't know if I'd want any more than 00:12:57.660 --> 00:13:04.380 this but for a thousand dollars you got to be pretty in to racing games 00:13:02.820 --> 00:13:10.260 to want to spend that much money and that's not including pedals if you look 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:15.320 at the competition the csld with three pedals like this and a wheel is still 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:19.380 less than just the base and the wheel thrustmaster just came out with their 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:23.339 new direct drive base that can do 10 newton meters of torque for around 650 00:13:21.300 --> 00:13:28.320 US Dollars it still kind of seems like the CSL DD from fanatec is the one to 00:13:26.220 --> 00:13:32.579 buy just because it is so much cheaper this does feel like a really good 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:36.899 experience I don't like true force that much maybe other people do your mileage 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:41.579 may vary but it does perform well it's just the price for a thousand dollars 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:45.480 with a bunch of micro b ports kind of disappointing I don't know I think if I 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:50.040 was buying one of these I'd probably still go with the fanatec csldd with the 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:54.240 Boost pack because then you're pretty much in the same neighborhood in terms 00:13:52.019 --> 00:13:58.079 of torque for a lot less money and there's a lot more supported custom 00:13:56.160 --> 00:14:00.839 wheels for instance I'm sure Logitech is going to come out with some more but fan 00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:05.899 attack has a lot lots and there's already a community behind them building 00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:05.899 other custom wheels 00:14:06.060 --> 00:14:08.839 this thing 00:14:11.160 --> 00:14:16.860 I think it would be an absolute steal for 750 maybe you're worth buying I 00:14:16.019 --> 00:14:21.660 think this is just a little too expensive thanks for watching if you like this 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:26.399 video maybe check out one of the watch videos I did the Apple watch Ultra that 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:30.800 thing was pretty cool although also very expensive get subscribed goodbye