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if there's one thing people around the office know me for it's that I wear

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driving gloves I don't wear driving gloves anymore but I do like Logitech

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and I do like cars so this could be a very interesting

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combo this is a thousand dollar racing wheel and a 350 dollar set of pedals

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from a company whose last racing wheel was like 300 bucks with both the market

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for direct drive Wheels like this has really been going up with fanatex csldd

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I think thrustmaster just launched one a couple days ago so it'll be interesting to see how this performs because at the

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price point this is a hefty ask but I can't wait to check out what's inside

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unlike the thrust master or the fanatec options Logitech is selling this as a

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kit so when you get the wheel which I

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assume is this thing okay cool cool this is impressive okay the thousand dollar

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price point I'm kind of starting to feel it all right

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previous generation Logitech wheel it was a good way to get into racing games

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but not very well built this by contrast

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feels really nice nice buttons these paddles click the paddle David click

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click the paddle it feels pretty good but it's not clear

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if you're going to be able to buy separate Wheels I imagine because there

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is a quick disconnect on the back of here then you can take this on and off

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that they will sell other cool branded Wheels that's okay this thing is massive

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the nice thing about the fanatec option is it's pretty compact this is a bit of

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a chungus 15 pounds

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power cable and a chungus power brick 300 watts wow

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ah that looks like a table Mount good ah

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man these table clamps are always underwhelming this is a thousand dollar

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product and it's just like it's a plastic screw and plastic housing I mean

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realistically if you're using a wheel like this you probably shouldn't mount it to your desk you probably got some

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sort of like a wheel frame or something but this is a little disappointing on

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first glance yeah okay cool little cover it's got a

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little like ball bearing things to hold it in place

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okay it works

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it really does work

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it feels cheap but it does work in terms of the wheel we got our x y a b left

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trigger right trigger since this is the Xbox version there's a PlayStation version they're the same price they do

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both work for PC so if you play on PC you're welcome to buy whatever version

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you like on the inside there there's four pins those are going to connect to

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four little contacts on our quick disconnect it's keyed so you can't put

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it in the wrong way so make sure you line that up and then you want to pull

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this back hmm

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fanatec lets you spin it infinitely there's no stops this one does have

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stops but they are both direct drive this does use hall effect sensors so

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it's not going to wear down any potentiometers or anything like that and it does feel nice and smooth it does

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have their true Force tech which when they describe it to me it's kind of like

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it's almost like having a speaker in the steering wheel that gives you these

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finer inputs at least on their older Wheels because this one's direct drive

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and it's just a big motor I imagine that feedback it's also probably just done by

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the motor um we'll have to see how that feels oh I

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forgot there's a little OLED display on here wow that is Tiny it's got to be

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like this big little OLED display there Ah that's lame on the back of this for

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connectivity they just have a bunch of USB a ports like the OG style like USB

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2.0 type A ports there's a micro USB

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which is lame in 2022 this should be type c at the very least they have made

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this a molded cable and you can see that it matches the profile of the inside of

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that so once you push this in it's not really going to be affected by a side to

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side Force but you could very well you know rip it out this way and these

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little prongs on the micro b Port are going to wear down over time now the

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type A ports aren't going to be protected from left and right movement

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so if you do wire this up man maybe just get put some cable strain reliefs or

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something because I can see someone very easily damaging this

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uh it's not even like tight fitting like

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kind of disappointing on a thousand dollar device hopefully the performance

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still lives up to it there's stuff in here

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oh this looks promising so far I'm

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seeing a lot of metal that's good buying pedals that are plastic and you get a

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ton of flex these feel pretty good though this is

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350 bucks this feels like a lot better value than

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this steering wheel but I mean I guess we'll see the thing I always find with

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like racing pedal clutches is they're always super linear it's just

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like a lever when in real life your clutch will kind of you'll feel the

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point at which it disengages and engages the brake pedal is load cell which is

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cool and the gas it's okay for gas to just be a lever because in a real car

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that's what it is okay

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oh Jesus yeah replacement Springs cool

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and look at that replacement brake

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um foam I don't know what you call these rubbers brake rubbers see I want to make

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the okay all right actually that came out really easily

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did I just get it stuck now oh God there

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we go okay it's a bit tight you tighten the thing and that's good

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oops so when you're pressing the pedal at first you feel the compression of

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this soft foam and then you kind of hit a wall which would be this much harder

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rubber there's probably a couple different presets they give you like

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yeah there you go they give you a chart so you can replace the pieces

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A and B and then you're always going to have one of these they're not really

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labeled though they are kind of labeled does that look like a label ah man okay

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Logitech again colors if the system is colors does that

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look like the same brown and you can almost say that that's the yellow maybe

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it's these are the natural colors of these materials but make sure that the

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color in your manual matches or at the very least dye them so that they look

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really different so you can't screw this up okay we can also switch the Springs

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yeah okay that one's white so that's the lightest one this one is brown the

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clutch pedal has red which is the second heaviest and the gas has yellow which is

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the second lightest let me put these on my feet and see how they feel

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man playing a racing game without a cockpit

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kind of lame do we have room for a cockpit I do they

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did a reasonable job with the rubber kind of anti-slide stuff obviously when

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you're getting into it you're still gonna be pushing the pedals forward I

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think my gas pedal is a little too firm and the clutch is a little too soft

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so I might swap those they feel pretty good though

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there is a bit of play left and right not only are the pedals themselves

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moving but the actual like metal piece that holds them in place kind of the

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channel that they're in is also flexing quite a bit I don't know if it's because

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the rest of it is plastic what's holding that metal beef in is plastic oh cool

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the pedals are adjustable you can slide each pedal around as much as you want

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you can also adjust the pedal faces themselves you see that we're using

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these holes right now but you could move them over here over here or up there

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anywhere you want interesting they are modular which is cool

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each petal connects with a little looks like rj11 or maybe RJ9

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kind of like a phone jack and then there is our USB which is also

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micro USB again

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this one I think is less of a problem because there's these nice cable strain

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reliefs right here how are you going to screw this up

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you're probably not going to but once you plug this other end here

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let's let's just demo I don't know if it's the right way if it was type c it

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wouldn't matter oh did I get it oh I got it

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all right maybe it's not so bad I'm a professional plugger into Port

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kind of guy okay I do this for a living okay well let's set it up with the

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computer and play some games God

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with the offer code ShortCircuit at vessey.com ShortCircuit when I was

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plugging in the power I realized it's got active cooling there's a fan in

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this thing you can hear it you totally can hear it

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I felt it at the back that's pretty cool I guess it's because it's pretty hot I

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like that everything is integrated in g-hub now you don't need to download discrete drivers it just automatically

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detected it and it needs a firmware update Hey look it's got a little blinky

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lights when it's updating it's not blinking anymore God dang it oh it

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blinked it's blinking again oh

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yeah that's a good amount of torque I like this thing we have a fanatec CSL

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dd2 upstairs and I think that thing can do 25 Newton meters but I usually set

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the peak around 12. so having your Peak

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at around 11 is it's pretty good the interesting thing is they call these

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dual clutch pedals like that's the only only car that would have paddles is one

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with a dual clutch okay so maybe they're not talking about

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a dual clutch transmission they're talking about there are dual

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clutch pedals you can rebind them to pretty much anything it looks like

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um you can make them even your gas I guess

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so because it's a load cell you can actually set the amount of force you apply 100

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kilograms there's no way you're going to be doing that without these mounted to a

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frame and I don't even think you're going to be doing it even with it mounted to a frame that's

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like 120 pounds of force uh so you play

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it the right pedal goes fast it's the second pedal wow thanks hey look there's

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little bar graphs for them here gas and clutch

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super linear clutch I don't know what the other ones are we're playing the new

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setup Corsa competition I guess I don't

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know I don't speak Italian or whatever that is it has true Force support that's why

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we're using it I usually play regular aesthetic corset which we might try

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after but for now let's do this okay so I can pick a car

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let's do the m6 GT3

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ah it's so much easier to use a keyboard

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and mouse damn it um they're fine I guess

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practice yeah let's do that realism okay

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let's try this thing it's just like

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you can hear the engine through the wheel it's really weird

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sounds terrible yeah it's a little like much sauce honestly

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I really don't like the true force it feels awful just the whole

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wheel feels like it's just vibrating constantly

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it sounds broken oh my God it's not shaking like it's

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broken this is so much better oh my God oh my God I don't know why there's a

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racing line but whatever this is much better this is much better

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oh my God I'm going too fast for this car uh so if

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you slow down four turns yeah it's a great idea I should do that okay it

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feels way better now that the whole desk and steering wheel isn't shaking like a

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cheap toy oh too much spice okay ow see that's

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what I mean like there's some there's some serious torque there

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it's nice it feels very crisp the force

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feedback feels pretty good I really did not like the true Force thing in a set

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of Corsa or ACC wow this whole monitor is like shaky this Ikea table is not

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built for racing Sim it's a good amount of feedback this is

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like as much as I would ever want it's one thing with the fan attack that I

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have I'm always like I just want like a little bit more feedback this is a

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little bit more oh Jesus

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oh my God feels pretty good for a 350 dollar set

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of pedals I'm pretty happy with those surprisingly usable on a table despite

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the monitor like going all over the place it'll be interesting to see when

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there's more more wheel options I mean the stock

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wheel feels pretty good the build quality is nice it's got I would say

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just the right amount of force feedback I don't know if I'd want any more than

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this but for a thousand dollars you got to be pretty in to racing games

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to want to spend that much money and that's not including pedals if you look

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at the competition the csld with three pedals like this and a wheel is still

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less than just the base and the wheel thrustmaster just came out with their

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new direct drive base that can do 10 newton meters of torque for around 650

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US Dollars it still kind of seems like the CSL DD from fanatec is the one to

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buy just because it is so much cheaper this does feel like a really good

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experience I don't like true force that much maybe other people do your mileage

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may vary but it does perform well it's just the price for a thousand dollars

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with a bunch of micro b ports kind of disappointing I don't know I think if I

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was buying one of these I'd probably still go with the fanatec csldd with the

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Boost pack because then you're pretty much in the same neighborhood in terms

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of torque for a lot less money and there's a lot more supported custom

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wheels for instance I'm sure Logitech is going to come out with some more but fan

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attack has a lot lots and there's already a community behind them building

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other custom wheels

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this thing

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I think it would be an absolute steal for 750 maybe you're worth buying I

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think this is just a little too expensive thanks for watching if you like this

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video maybe check out one of the watch videos I did the Apple watch Ultra that

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thing was pretty cool although also very expensive get subscribed goodbye
