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be interesting to see how this performs because at the price point this is a hefty ask but I can't wait to check out what's inside unlike the thrust master or the fanatec options Logitech is selling this as a kit so when you get the wheel which I assume is this thing okay cool cool this is impressive okay the thousand dollar price point I'm kind of starting to feel it all right previous generation Logitech wheel it was a good way to get into racing games but not very well built this by contrast feels really nice nice buttons these paddles click the paddle David click click the paddle it feels pretty good but it's not clear if you're going to be able to buy separate Wheels I imagine because there is a quick disconnect on the back of here then you can take this on and off that they will sell other cool branded Wheels that's okay this thing is massive the nice thing about the fanatec option is it's pretty compact this is a bit of a chungus 15 pounds power cable and a chungus power brick 300 watts wow ah that looks like a table Mount good ah man these table clamps are always underwhelming this is a thousand dollar product and it's just like it's a plastic screw and plastic housing I mean realistically if you're using a wheel like this you probably shouldn't mount it to your desk you probably got some sort of like a wheel frame or something but this is a little disappointing on first glance yeah okay cool little cover it's got a little like ball bearing things to hold it in place okay it works it really does work it feels cheap but it does work in terms of the wheel we got our x y a b left trigger right trigger since this is the Xbox version there's a PlayStation version they're the same price they do both work for PC so if you play on PC you're welcome to buy whatever version you like on the inside there there's four pins those are going to connect to four little contacts on our quick disconnect it's keyed so you can't put it in the wrong way so make sure you line that up and then you want to pull this back hmm fanatec lets you spin it infinitely there's no stops this one does have stops but they are both direct drive this does use hall effect sensors so it's not going to wear down any potentiometers or anything like that and it does feel nice and smooth it does have their true Force tech which when they describe it to me it's kind of like it's almost like having a speaker in the steering wheel that gives you these finer inputs at least on their older Wheels because this one's direct drive and it's just a big motor I imagine that feedback it's also probably just done by the motor um we'll have to see how that feels oh I forgot there's a little OLED display on here wow that is Tiny it's got to be like this big little OLED display there Ah that's lame on the back of this for connectivity they just have a bunch of USB a ports like the OG style like USB 2.0 type A ports there's a micro USB which is lame in 2022 this should be type c at the very least they have made this a molded cable and you can see that it matches the profile of the inside of that so once you push this in it's not really going to be affected by a side to side Force but you could very well you know rip it out this way and these little prongs on the micro b Port are going to wear down over time now the type A ports aren't going to be protected from left and right movement so if you do wire this up man maybe just get put some cable strain reliefs or something because I can see someone very easily damaging this uh it's not even like tight fitting like kind of disappointing on a thousand dollar device hopefully the performance still lives up to it there's stuff in here oh this looks promising so far I'm seeing a lot of metal that's good buying pedals that are plastic and you get a ton of flex these feel pretty good though this is 350 bucks this feels like a lot better value than this steering wheel but I mean I guess we'll see the thing I always find with like racing pedal clutches is they're always super linear it's just like a lever when in real life your clutch will kind of you'll feel the point at which it disengages and engages the brake pedal is load cell which is cool and the gas it's okay for gas to just be a lever because in a real car that's what it is okay oh Jesus yeah replacement Springs cool and look at that replacement brake um foam I don't know what you call these rubbers brake rubbers see I want to make the okay all right actually that came out really easily did I just get it stuck now oh God there we go okay it's a bit tight you tighten the thing and that's good oops so when you're pressing the pedal at first you feel the compression of this soft foam and then you kind of hit a wall which would be this much harder rubber there's probably a couple different presets they give you like yeah there you go they give you a chart so you can replace the pieces A and B and then you're always going to have one of these they're not really labeled though they are kind of labeled does that look like a label ah man okay Logitech again colors if the system is colors does that look like the same brown and you can almost say that that's the yellow maybe it's these are the natural colors of these materials but make sure that the color in your manual matches or at the very least dye them so that they look really different so you can't screw this up okay we can also switch the Springs yeah okay that one's white so that's the lightest one this one is brown the clutch pedal has red which is the second heaviest and the gas has yellow which is the second lightest let me put these on my feet and see how they feel man playing a racing game without a cockpit kind of lame do we have room for a cockpit I do they did a reasonable job with the rubber kind of anti-slide stuff obviously when you're getting into it you're still gonna be pushing the pedals forward I think my gas pedal is a little too firm and the clutch is a little too soft so I might swap those they feel pretty good though there is a bit of play left and right not only are the pedals themselves moving but the actual like metal piece that holds them in place kind of the channel that they're in is also flexing quite a bit I don't know if it's because the rest of it is plastic what's holding that metal beef in is plastic oh cool the pedals are adjustable you can slide each pedal around as much as you want you can also adjust the pedal faces themselves you see that we're using these holes right now but you could move them over here over here or up there anywhere you want interesting they are modular which is cool each petal connects with a little looks like rj11 or maybe RJ9 kind of like a phone jack and then there is our USB which is also micro USB again this one I think is less of a problem because there's these nice cable strain reliefs right here how are you going to screw this up you're probably not going to but once you plug this other end here let's let's just demo I don't know if it's the right way if it was type c it wouldn't matter oh did I get it oh I got it all right maybe it's not so bad I'm a professional plugger into Port kind of guy okay I do this for a living okay well let's set it up with the computer and play some games God ah but not before I tell you about our sponsor vessi thanks to vesi Footwear for sponsoring this video messy Footwear is known for being lightweight easy to pack comfortable and most importantly water resistant with its dimetex technology their everyday move line is designed with added support at the midsole and better breathability to keep up with your active lifestyle you can take them off and put them on with ease thanks to the handy pull tab and it's also made creature free so every step you take will be guilt-free your feet will thank you for wearing these so say goodbye to wet socks and save 25 bucks with the offer code ShortCircuit at vessey.com ShortCircuit when I was plugging in the power I realized it's got active cooling there's a fan in this thing you can hear it you totally can hear it I felt it at the back that's pretty cool I guess it's because it's pretty hot I like that everything is integrated in g-hub now you don't need to download discrete drivers it just automatically detected it and it needs a firmware update Hey look it's got a little blinky lights when it's updating it's not blinking anymore God dang it oh it blinked it's blinking again oh yeah that's a good amount of torque I like this thing we have a fanatec CSL dd2 upstairs and I think that thing can do 25 Newton meters but I usually set the peak around 12. so having your Peak at around 11 is it's pretty good the interesting thing is they call these dual clutch pedals like that's the only only car that would have paddles is one with a dual clutch okay so maybe they're not talking about a dual clutch transmission they're talking about there are dual clutch pedals you can rebind them to pretty much anything it looks like um you can make them even your gas I guess so because it's a load cell you can actually set the amount of force you apply 100 kilograms there's no way you're going to be doing that without these mounted to a frame and I don't even think you're going to be doing it even with it mounted to a frame that's like 120 pounds of force uh so you play it the right pedal goes fast it's the second pedal wow thanks hey look there's little bar graphs for them here gas and clutch super linear clutch I don't know what the other ones are we're playing the new setup Corsa competition I guess I don't know I don't speak Italian or whatever that is it has true Force support that's why we're using it I usually play regular aesthetic corset which we might try after but for now let's do this okay so I can pick a car let's do the m6 GT3 ah it's so much easier to use a keyboard and mouse damn it um they're fine I guess practice yeah let's do that realism okay let's try this thing it's just like you can hear the engine through the wheel it's really weird sounds terrible yeah it's a little like much sauce honestly I really don't like the true force it feels awful just the whole wheel feels like it's just vibrating constantly it sounds broken oh my God it's not shaking like it's broken this is so much better oh my God oh my God I don't know why there's a racing line but whatever this is much better this is much better oh my God I'm going too fast for this car uh so if you slow down four turns yeah it's a great idea I should do that okay it feels way better now that the whole desk and steering wheel isn't shaking like a cheap toy oh too much spice okay ow see that's what I mean like there's some there's some serious torque there it's nice it feels very crisp the force feedback feels pretty good I really did not like the true Force thing in a set of Corsa or ACC wow this whole monitor is like shaky this Ikea table is not built for racing Sim it's a good amount of feedback this is like as much as I would ever want it's one thing with the fan attack that I have I'm always like I just want like a little bit more feedback this is a little bit more oh Jesus oh my God feels pretty good for a 350 dollar set of pedals I'm pretty happy with those surprisingly usable on a table despite the monitor like going all over the place it'll be interesting to see when there's more more wheel options I mean the stock wheel feels pretty good the build quality is nice it's got I would say just the right amount of force feedback I don't know if I'd want any more than this but for a thousand dollars you got to be pretty in to racing games to want to spend that much money and that's not including pedals if you look at the competition the csld with three pedals like this and a wheel is still less than just the base and the wheel thrustmaster just came out with their new direct drive base that can do 10 newton meters of torque for around 650 US Dollars it still kind of seems like the CSL DD from fanatec is the one to buy just because it is so much cheaper this does feel like a really good experience I don't like true force that much maybe other people do your mileage may vary but it does perform well it's just the price for a thousand dollars with a bunch of micro b ports kind of disappointing I don't know I think if I was buying one of these I'd probably still go with the fanatec csldd with the Boost pack because then you're pretty much in the same neighborhood in terms of torque for a lot less money and there's a lot more supported custom wheels for instance I'm sure Logitech is going to come out with some more but fan attack has a lot lots and there's already a community behind them building other custom wheels this thing I think it would be an absolute steal for 750 maybe you're worth buying I think this is just a little too expensive thanks for watching if you like this video maybe check out one of the watch videos I did the Apple watch Ultra that thing was pretty cool although also very expensive get subscribed goodbye"}