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now all right so guys we've got some great topics for you today the star citizen
requirements look freaking awesome so good like this is we haven't seen this
since i don't know what like a title crisis
one i think where they basically came out and said nothing will run this well
so calm down fairly consistent when you went to go buy a new game you'd flip it
over and read the system requirements because you had to um NVIDIA may release
a gtx 790 we don't know more rumors more
rumors uh battlefield 4 is apparently going to run at 720p on ps4
big surprise so you can run it in the 720 penis
enjoy all that 720 penis
i mean those console guys they eat it up that 720 penis we're running 1080p plus
penises um yeah 1080p plus
yes no there's no penis in it after that point why why are you gonna why are you
gonna bring penises into everything so SSD overclocking could be a thing on
upcoming Intel ssds that's the sort of word
right away no we're not doing that right away because first we are gonna run the
intro
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let's jump into the topic that slick really wants to get into for some reason
and i'm not really quite sure why so i'm gonna have to scroll all the way down
because apparently he put the ah yes here we go so this was posted on the
Linus tech tips forum i'm gonna let you introduce it since apparently this is
you have got to be kidding me this was working before so uh yeah we're gonna go
ahead and we're gonna unplug that and then plug that back in and we're gonna
hope that this works because
so far so far things have gone not too badly
today well actually they've gone terribly today in fact that could be a whole lan
show not very many things have gone well today in and of itself yeah between your
audio issues and our battery for that camera that ended
up not working with it at all in spite of the fact that they're just tweeting
just tweet the article it's crazy okay because uh this this uh this uh this
here should work right now this was this was this was working like a minute ago
so uh you know what if i do this
there is a chance that it will just break the whole thing so we're going to tweet the articles guys so if you're
following on uh if you're following me on
Linus tech on twitter Intel cpus can overclock but so can their ssds so this
was submitted on the forum here we go tweeting
uh by us five three seven three so the
original articles from tech power up and basically i think this is the most
insane thing ever so it could soon become possible to overclock the
controller and nan flash on your SSD if Intel has its way the company is set to
demonstrate how to overclock Intel branded ssds using its extreme tuning
utility at idf 2013 which is going to be in september
um okay let's let's so basically what
they're saying is it's going to be just like any other overclocking where you're going to get a performance benefit but
there will also be potentially uh reliability
issues as well stability stability issues so uh 560 megabytes per second
seems to be the practical maximum bandwidth say to six gigabit per second
ssds have been able to achieve it can always be handy getting your SSD a few
dozen more megabytes per second sequential speed at the expense of stability that's insane
but you run eight ssds i run eight it's already suicidal okay why do you care i
run eight ssds in raid zero that haven't been that haven't been overclocked to be
unstable so while they could die and while i am
multiplying the chances of data failure
by um well a lot it's a ton okay because it actually it's
like the way it works is you actually have to multiply because your chances of
failure failure rate every time yes absolute but
but hold on a second because at least those ssds are known good
at least they're stable so if someone takes two and overclocks them you think
that's insane but if someone takes eight and doesn't overclock them you don't think that's insane yeah because when
you overclock when you overclock them they're running outside of spec we
already know that on a CPU even if you
okay let CPU perfect example so when you
dial it over when you dial in an overclock you dial it in and you leave
it pretty much forever am i right okay so we already know that
when you dial in your overclock on your SSD you're gonna do it while there's no
critical data on it correct in this situation if you're overclocking
ssds you're not going to put critical data on it so your concept is you would
put no so you would just take the risk that your os would just break yeah and
because okay look look cpus the max overclocked
data do you carry on your ssds none exactly i have a homes i have a 16
terabyte server storage drives okay
if they're gonna run raid zero ssds hold on i probably have storage save games do
you have all your saved games mapped somewhere else yes okay does is average
consumer able to do that they're running a storage drive that's the easiest thing
on a plane let's even say not necessarily some games map you're safe
like freaking all over the place like it is a nightmare steam doesn't remap most
of them no it doesn't usually go to documents usually almost except when
they don't almost except when you go play that old retro game that you really
wanted to play and it goes and puts it in the program files folder which means
and then your SSD overclock becomes unstable and you lose it and now you
have to play that old game that you wanted to play over again just to get to the point
where you left off like i think it's insane
i you don't mess around with storage it's all old games on my storage drives
anyways it's not that's not the point okay
the average overclocker look at that look at the level to which overclocking
has been dumbed down at this point you press the button and it overclocks your
computer just because someone is comfortable overclocking doesn't mean
they should be overclocking their storage everyone should do this
well i don't think it's a bad thing i don't think anyone should do this would
you overclock your SATA controller
think it would be fun i think it'd be interesting it would be interesting to
just because okay remember you have worked with some crazy errors
like that stream machine okay that's the kind of [ __ ] that happens
when you have ins in unstable storage
overclocking every single thing inside their entire computer it'll be
impossible to diagnose anything because their RAM will be overclocked their CPU
will be overclocked their SSD will be overclocked and you'll never know where they are those are the people that don't
care and want to tinker with their computers they're expecting they want
their computer to be broken basically they're expecting problems i wouldn't
overclock storage on anything that wasn't
no i just wouldn't do it it's insane i i find this very surprising for the man
that runs 8 ssds eight stable ssds that work
i don't think it's going to throw them that unstable okay you know what
speaking of unstable star citizen hardware requirements separate the men
from the boys why is this unstable it's not unstable how is that a segway
because i don't want to talk about that anymore i should bring josh in here nobody
doesn't want to talk about something
all right i'm tweeting this out
if i remember quickly it's like eight gigs of system right so this was posted
on the forum by i got it i gotta look this up lukiosa um so anyway directly
translated from google translate this is awesome so get this guys eight gigs of
RAM and 64 bit are a minimum bye-bye 32-bit
buh-bye and you know what good riddance too because i don't see any reason why
the game should be designed to only have to use enough memory so that it can run
on 3d you know what no forget it 64-bit we've had three iterations of Windows
os's and if we want to talk os's that aren't Windows it's been going on longer
than that that are 64-bit and the processors have
been i mean 60 any processor that's capable of running star citizen supports
64-bit so if you're one of those people who bought Windows 7 32-bit
like sorry dude i was at a booth today this won't take
long i was at a booth today and i did my little intro explaining how we're hardware viewers trying to get into the
game stuff all that blah blah blah blah and he's like oh you'll love this we
made our game so it can work on everything i was like
did you slap it did you slap him i was like uh we'll just talk about the game
let's just talk about the game so anyway eight gigs of RAM minimum now get this
uh for optimal settings you'll need a high end pc with the technology in 1.5
years love it we haven't seen this since crisis yeah where they basically came
out or far cry i mean far cry 1 was a great example of this if you had a 9800
pro when or x1800xt or whatever was the high-end
card at the time far cry was like yeah
we don't care yeah we don't care because whatever because we don't care that's
awesome i love it because how much how
much fun is it because you know what the temptation okay here something you would never have
the discipline to do would be to play through a game at like low details
and then go back and experience it again two years later with everything maxed if
you could max it now you'd max it now i think it improves replayability to
have the game continue to look better i've done that and i've done it i've
done that yeah i've absolutely done it i mean uh i couldn't run uh i couldn't run
half-life 2 at max settings when i first played it i can't remember what game but
i know i've done it at least once so i think it's outstanding so they're saying
um something along okay so it'll run fluently with maybe a future gtx 880 or
890 and they're saying something like a gtx 770 would be expected to be adequate
for only medium settings so the last generation top tier card like a 680
which is about equivalent medium
go chris roberts you're awesome man that's so cool you and everything that
happens that's anything to do with you and all that
all right so our next article we're trying to burn through these because
slick's got to get to the byoc and i got to drive him there so it's going to get
me to the last 10 minutes yeah wait what they kick you out after at 12 yeah it's
not all night no oh i assumed that it was like you just
couldn't get in and out in the convention center they can't have people overnight i don't know that's
unfortunate i'm sorry it's okay well
okay so i'm tweeting this article yeah i had totally misunderstood how
that worked i thought we were gonna like squeeze you under the door indiana jones
style and uh and that was gonna go really well so uh the verge
published an article google blocks chromecast app that lets you stream your
own videos and there's an update now i'll let you cover this one because you
so basically everyone freaked out because google chrome or not google
chrome chromecast was not allowing people to stream their own local content
let's see if you can keep this train of thought it was absolutely ridiculous and then
google comes out and is like actually it's just not working yet so we're
blocking it because it's super buggy but it'll be available later
which is kind of like uh
it goes to show you like here's here's
the problem with the way that the media works right now and you know what we're
as guilty of it as as i think almost anyone out there we've done it with at
least one or two things we've done it with at least one or two things and the problem is that there's not many actual
sources of information because so much of it is coming from social or coming
from uh sort of like a few sort of
i don't know are they trustworthy are they not like there's not much actual
like investigative journalism being done these days but there's an awful lot of
content uh gatherers so sites like reddit are great
for spreading things but they don't really generate much and that's not to
say reddit doesn't generate anything but again it's user generated so the problem
is that when something gets reported often very little fact checking is done
and it just goes everywhere
so everyone thought this was a big thing and they're all trying to stop you from
playing your local content blah blah blah blah and in the end it's just like
no it's buggy so they disabled it so you wouldn't screw things up yeah so
yeah it's not really a problem i'm not going to worry about this too much kind of sucks for now but like
it's google they'll fix it not too worried
with that said this could be the most interesting thing i've seen out of
google um in a while i mean this is the kind of
thing that really takes the i'm holding up an iphone so this is a bad example
but this is one of those things that really takes the the phone experience
and really enhances it in a way that five years a good job five years from
now people won't even think about that this was never an
option yes so that's pretty cool their new
patent allows you to change security settings for your phone based on your
location so it's taking that location data
and allowing your phone to adapt to where you are so for example
um you could be at home and instead of requiring a passcode you
could just swipe it so like here's a scenario my iphone 4 i have set up to
wipe the phone if more than five failed attempts are entered in it
my baby picks up my iphone 4. i'm getting the nod from tim over there because yeah
he's got kids he knows um so my baby will pick it up and start mashing at it
he knows where the lock button is he knows what's up and he's like you know
mashing at it and i'm like i run over i'm like no because i haven't backed it
up in a few days please don't do that
whereas this would allow it if i'm not out and about he could just swipe it
open but i could still have the security if i leave my phone on the skytrain or
something along those lines and i mean there's other possibilities
here too like what if i could say um allow applications to access my location
data as long as i'm not 10 kilometers from home
so i could have my tweets track my location as long as i'm not somewhere
where i don't want people to know about which is that's a thing that's a really
big thing or like geo-tagging photos you know what
don't tag the stuff that's at home yeah tag the stuff when i'm like outside of
of excellent i mean how cool is it just your like small little area like where
you go shopping at home and that kind of stuff like that could don't you take
that except then once you're out in the city you're out wherever like i'm i'm
gonna sound like a noob here but do you remember when i caused some trouble for myself
by tweeting a photo through a third third-party app and not twitter that i
had taken on my phone and it still had all of the metadata on it including the
exact coordinates of where i took it yeah
i didn't realize that that was just gonna be there and
the app wouldn't automatically pull it out if i told it my privacy settings i
don't want my location shown didn't even think about it but stuff like this you
shouldn't have to think about will my mother think of that
no she's gonna no one is even gonna tell her she's most
majority of people don't know that pictures can store location data
mass amount of people so this could be the solution i mean i kind of hate that
google's patenting it or i hope that they license it for you know a penny or
less than a penny or something like i really hope that this is something that becomes completely
uh widespread but either way it's really it's a really cool idea and i'm really
happy about it um let's talk bethesda did you go to
their booth today i have been avoiding you've been avoiding it to get work done
okay fair enough i will be going though okay you're going
to cover that right yeah because i mean
so here let's talk about this bethesda is pushing to drop xbox live gold fee
for elder scrolls online players i'm gonna preface this it won't happen
it's not gonna happen other companies have tried it it didn't work for them
it's not gonna work for bethesda but the idea is that they're saying it doesn't
have to go through their servers at all apparently so microsoft servers so what
they're claiming is that if it doesn't have to use any of that it should be free for the players and they don't want
to they don't want to give them any of the gold services so they don't want any
of the gold services to be working they don't want them to have access to market
or whatever i don't know what the actual new gold services are but they wanted to
be able to bypass that completely and have it all connect directly to their
own servers i i don't think it's gonna happen i i
think that i can't remember what the other company that tried to do it was but they've already told the pes they're
like yeah it didn't work for us because if they did it for us they'd have to do it for
everyone and it probably won't work for you because if they did for you they'd have
to do it for everyone and they really would i mean it's um
it's one of those things where you know bethesda
however much weight they might feel like they have to pull around you
know if they did it for bethesda valve's
going to be like yeah yo what's up blizzard's gonna be like yo
and all of a sudden and you know activision blizzard activision right so
like everyone is gonna so you know call of duty is not gonna require it and
diablo 3 is not going to require it and all of a sudden what's going to be the benefit of an xbox live gold membership
nothing because you'll be able to play multiplayer for everything and you know
what the fact of the matter is especially with anything that's a pc port these developers are going to have
their own server infrastructure anyway just to play demos if you actually i i
do agree with this um with console players like one one big thing is steam
you can add games to it so people can see your steam presence in other games
like playing them that aren't even in steam so i have added starcraft to my steam yeah so when i go in starcraft 2
xbox live subscriptions you can see people in
multiple games and talk with them that way if you didn't have an xbox live
subscription you wouldn't be able to do that so if they're bypassing xboxers you
wouldn't be able to do that okay
uh so that's just okay that's a value that it
has it's a value that it has but it's a value that i mean i wish i wish that
i wish that xbox was a more open platform like pc so someone could just
come along and build x fire or uh or a steam type of of it's a console
but it's a console so it won't happen so all of this is just
none of this will happen none of it will happen but
you know they tried uh this was posted on the Linus tech tips forum by
top war gamer so thank you very much for posting that
although i'd prefer if you uh fleshed it out a
little bit more next time man yeah it's like a one-liner
could technically we don't know it hasn't happened yet but like
no it's not gonna happen yeah i will bet money okay
yeah how much money should we bet i don't know i'll pony up five bucks is
this legal i i oh i don't know okay moving right along
speaking of my son playing around with uh my cell phone
one in ten five-year-olds apparently has a mobile
phone will your five-year-old get a mobile phone no
but you know what the reality of it is things are changing so much and so
quickly that i can say that now but for all i know
maybe you will i don't know but at the same like i think it would be
more i read into this article and one big thing is that a lot of them were
using the phone and the data on the phone more than their parents were
okay if i was giving a phone to a five-year-old i would want to give like
a flip phone so they can have contact
okay hold on why don't we why don't we why don't we take a step back
so so hold on so the whole the whole thing here i'm going to tweet this out
so you guys can follow along with us here because i can't show you things on my screen because we can never have a
lan show that doesn't have any issues because that's how we roll suckas
that's how we roll sucka so this was posted by etrj on the forum
that guy keeps changing his image so i can never recognize him right away you
know i think it's been that one for a while yeah for a little while but before
it was a different one and i think it was something else i actually go by images oh i don't use their names
i can't i can't remember names but i can remember faces so that translates all
right so anyway the whole thing is that more than one intent of youngster spends
more than their mother or father on the phone so only a quarter capped their
youngsters contracts while just three percent said they disabled data on the
phones so they could only be used for making calls or sending text messages so
only three percent of these parents who are buying phones for five-year-olds so
we can sort of agree that they're either ahead of their time or they're completely insane one of the two and
there's a fine line yeah it's a really fine line
what could a five-year-old need a phone for
uh at five years old what like are you in you're in kindergarten you're
kindergarten in kindergarten at five um here okay i'm going to pitch
something as a parent if i could install and this actually
ties in really well into the boyfriend tracker app if i could install an app on
their phone that i could know where they are and i
could get an eta for when they're going to be home from school i could see them
walking i could see their last location for example which is a way that a lot of
those apps work so even if someone were to
uh you know kidnap them and you know no
bailor probably happened and you could i mean you can train your kids don't get
in the car with someone or whatever else but if someone snags them and you train
your kid yo you keep that phone on you you keep it turned on but you keep it
silent is that worth sort of the risk that they'll make
a long distance call to timbuktu and you'll pay a few bucks for
can you even like disable long-distance calls you probably can i mean Android is
so Android is so customizable would you
consider giving your five-year-old a phone if that's what it was for this is
the thing i was getting into is i would consider it but see my thing was the flip phone
right but that wouldn't have anything what you just said makes a little bit
more sense but then you'd have to do stuff like restricting data limits doing
all that kind of stuff because for gps you don't need like anything so restrict data limits like super low like if i
just wanted to know where my kid is and like use parental control and the thing
too though i mean guys i'm not talking about this for 16 year olds no by the
time we're talking about older kids it's a different story one they can pay for
their own bloody phone if they want one and number two is they they they kind of
they have their own minds and they have their own deal at that point whereas if i was
looking at it going okay well i've got my phone plan which is what it is an
extra sim might cost me nothing if i switch over to a family plan and i have
an old phone lying around which by the time my kid's five will be four years
from now so like you'll be inheriting like nhtc one
which will be chipped and scratched and cracked or whatever else by that point
but it'll be functional you know um
if it costs me nothing what do i care on the other hand are we teaching our
kids to be too dependent on electronics or
are we enabling them to function in an increasingly electronic world you can
probably there's probably something you get for Android that blocks all numbers
and then have like and then put it on a specific allow list then you can allow
like yours and your wife's yeah for sure that exists i'm sure 100
you can allow like yours and your wife's and maybe like the kid's teacher
right and then that's it and then you can only call and text those numbers and
then it's super restricted on dates lock down youtube lock down everything and
just have it like the most lockdown thing ever so they don't really use it i
don't know like i i guess i i mean if we were to talk about it in this kind of a
use case scenario maybe i don't have a problem with this that makes a lot more sense but i think this article is saying
i i think it's more to do with no one's doing that yeah no one's doing
that because three percent were disabling data and a quarter were
capping the contracts so these are just kids like little kids with like
smartphones smartphones and i don't think they have the discipline at that
age to go okay that's enough of whatever free running game temple run game of the
week that's not even like you can't expect that out of a five no
you can't at all yeah which is that which is why people should be using and
like again like you said this isn't a 16 year old thing yes it's completely
different totally different totally different thing take that track
rap off blah blah blah blah but like yeah
um you know what i'm gonna fire up twitch chat here and i'm gonna see what
they have to say about it
okay something something don't buy a thousand dollar mobile phone for a child
buy a bodyguard instead well okay but remember what we were
talking about was like more like them inheriting your old phone old throwaway
phones or whatever someone says what's the point of having a phone when most of the features are
disabled you must be like 14 because
as someone who was alive and using phones when the only
functionality they had was to be a phone they they're still useful
they're just not toys they're just tools but that's the point is we would be wanting to give the
little one a tool yes so it is a completely different thing
someone says next topic you know what we will get to the next topic in fact we
are ready for the next topic right now so i'm trying to do some
guys i don't know if we're going to be able to do twitter blitz today because
of the screen sharing stuff although maybe maybe we can so uh why don't we
schedule a twitter blitz for after this next topic we're actually doing pretty
good uh burning through topics here so
the boyfriend tracker app gets nixed from google play so this was this was
mostly your topic so why don't you cover this i'm gonna tweet it out right now i can't remember exactly where it was the
worst but i believe it was brazil yeah where i think they got like 50 000
downloads in two months or something yeah they're doing really good and and
it just it kind of got pretty nuts i don't know so the way this app worked
was that the boyfriend couldn't tell it was on the phone
so i think you only need temporary access to the phone so you can install
it and then it runs silently and you can access it from another phone i've kind
of got a problem with any app that runs silently on my phone like that like i if
it doesn't even put an icon somewhere that's a big problem yeah i'm not happy
about that either um but i mean honestly it probably wouldn't have gotten pulled
if it was called the child tracker app because i think it was more of a
marketing problem so
it's always that arms race right so there was another app that you could
install that would detect if the boyfriend tracker app was i mean
is this what we're moving towards though
i guess like would you allow
a girlfriend to install a boyfriend tracker app on
your phone if you knew it was there
see guys hit me on the twitch chat actually twitter blitz twitter blitz
would you allow your significant other with your permission to gps track you
we're talking harry potter style the clock showing where all the weasleys are
would you allow it no because of respect issues
why because i feel like that's not respect but you have nothing to hide
yeah okay but how can you not respect me enough to believe that i won't do
anything would you say um you know what
she completely and honestly came up to me and was like i i wanna just i'm
worried you're going into shady parts of surrey
lately um i wanna make sure you don't get jumped i'll be like i'm fine
but if she insists i'll be like okay whatever but if it's more like uh i
don't trust you i'm gonna be like yeah no okay so if it's a safety thing you
accept so basically if she lies to me and says the safety
thing then she'll be able to get it on my phone so so basically like the
patriot act is okay with you no but hold
on because that's pretty much what it is it's blowing it way out of performance
your tactics that's pulling it way out of reports it's the same thing but it's
not for me it shouldn't matter why but it's not are you okay with someone
tracking where you are regardless of the reason me i'm doing it so it helps her
mind and it's a person that is not the government it's my girl that's
completely out of proportion look i'm not okay at all with the patriot act
well that's but that i don't i don't see the difference you can't be like you
like fries therefore you enjoy killing yourself because fries are bad for you
okay that is not actually the same thing
um okay what about this what if she said
she you know she just i don't like the
idea of it okay okay what if what if she was like look how about sometime in the
next six months can i just like do a spot check on you for a month and then
i'll never ask again and it would set me at ease what if she's just an uneasy so
you just would not would not accept that but if it was for safety
but if it was like a legitimate thing for safety and i could actually buy it
ladies right if you want to track him but right
now no because i don't go anywhere shady
you go to surrey no what do you mean no you need to go to siri you go through oh
you don't go to surrey i don't go to syria you've been to my house before
i live in surrey you should permanently have an insult
you don't have a nicer partnership that's true all right so
uh yeah let's just not uh okay so basically guys we are going to
wait what okay well we're gonna align the twitter
window because apparently that's a thing and it's in the way of my twitch thing
now which is freaking genius so let's go ahead and see if we can get oh man and
my wireless connection to my little wireless keyboard thing isn't very good
so it keeps like glitching out to all balls all right here we go
oh someone says you're talking kind of loud i enjoyed the whispering because it makes like even oh it's not even
knocking about me being sexy okay well you whisper now well i'm everyone hi
how's it going welcome to the lan show we're gonna get deep into these topics
tonight have you heard of performance issues on
gtx 760. sorry that's off topic uh no unless i'm able to turn it on or off
that's a good point what if she said look i want to know where you are
but you can manually turn it off whenever you want and it'll show your last
location i'll be fine with that because then if i did get into a sketchy situation i would be like boop
okay so you're okay with her but what if she was like look i'd like you to keep it on
for the most part but turn it off if you ever
want it off no because at that point because then you have to justify why you turned it off
i'm in a sketchy situation or i'm not in a sketchy situation okay
okay no i wouldn't if yeah no okay jacob
says wouldn't mind allowing it if she asked but i wouldn't propose it when
someone asked i'd ask why she even mentions cheating i'm gone says david
lee um no not at all i should be able to
live my own life hashtag killed my wife
edward says depends if i can track her too do you care if you can try if she
says look let's track each other
if she has join our souls together
we always know where each other are i just
it's funny because oh this is gonna sound bad but you were small enough that
it like felt right
just i'm sorry it felt so wrong but it felt all right
oh your god okay so if she says you can track her too
it doesn't make a difference it doesn't make a difference to you okay and i would put her on the same thing be like
if you're ever going somewhere sketchy turn it off if you're not so sketchy leave it up nick figures it's okay if
it's both ways jason says no because that's that means she doesn't trust me
and doesn't respect my privacy uh yeah i would by the way ladies i'm available so
it's called the by the way ladies the one thing i think is you could do it as
like a silent emergency thing so if you turn it on and she starts getting gps
notifications from your phone she knows something's wrong right that makes a lot
of sense other than that no someone says i'd never let an imaginary person track
my movements wow can you can i get a hashtag forever alone over there
seriously
uh only if she would keep a record so that i didn't have to write in my
journal okay i think we're gonna move on to our
next topic here so uh
ea catches flack over plants and zombies this was actually submitted via twitter
by joseph chang so i'm gonna go ahead and tweet out a tweet i guess i could
just retweet it right lol
your account may not be allowed to perform this action are you freaking kidding me
come on twitter don't let me down i've had a hard enough day already we're
gonna tweet the url to a tweet my tweet was posted so anyway
um why don't you talk about this while i set up our uh so the reviews for plants
vs zombies on mobile i believe this was the google play store yeah so the google
play store reviews for plants vs zombies are horrible and if you're wondering why
it's because you have to buy the plants and i i can't remember exactly i don't
have the laptop in front i think it was something like by the time you buy a few plants it's like 20 bucks i think it was
like three bucks for the sunflower plant which is pretty much required to play the game come on yay did you not make
enough money from plants vs zombies was it not enough of a blatant cash in to do
plants versus zombies too they have that have you checked out the packs does it
look different it does there's more units and stuff but
like ugh one thing that i saw was the sunflower
thing looked like it had like a sunbeam thing which is
but we're just talking pay to win like honestly
you know as evil as it is i think candy crush saga probably did it best
where you can play the game
no matter what the whole game but if you want to get through faster have you
played candy fresh no okay so there's a timer on how often you can get
uh new lives so you get five at a time and it peaks
there and then you gotta wait 20 minutes or whatever for a new life and they re
and you can buy more you can buy more or you can gift them to each other on
facebook and stuff and that doesn't cost anything so it
spreads the game which is brilliant it gets people to pay to play faster to
because they're enjoying it they're addicted to it which is brilliant and you can have the entire game
experience but it's not really needed but because it's not needed i'm
surprisingly okay with that yeah i'm down i'm down i mean someone who is a
total cheap person like my wife
who won't pay any money for it doesn't pay her five games and then that's it
and that's probably fine and she'll team up with their co-workers at work so they can all gift turns to each other do you
get like gifted turns yeah so you don't get them but you can trade them you can
do both okay yeah yeah i mean it's great yeah very cool that's cool but yeah okay
like this pairs in i don't know if this is this a topic here where they're
saying all all of ea's major titles are going free to play uh yeah i think we do
have that topic we might as well jump in we might as well jump in there okay guys
so this was a Linus tech tips forum topic as well so it was submitted by
qwerty warrior which is basically just a uh
a smart arse way of saying keyboard warrior but i love it
but only in north america and other regions where they do not use the azerty
or quirtzy or whatever the other things are anyway so
dvorak yeah so this is on nextpowerup.com and
according to a recent interview with their chief operations officer peter
moore epic interview moving forward all
of electronic arts major franchises would be embracing a free-to-play online
business model right in the middle of a fairly normal interview just drops the
biggest bomb and it's funny because
you know what they were on a roll there they were two weeks i think two weeks in
a row we had like touchy feely at least
self-hug ea moments and now they do this
so he basically said we don't ship a game
at ea that is offline it just doesn't happen
gamers
i'm just quoting no direct quote man whatever anyway it doesn't happen gamers
want to be connected so their stats and achievements reflect who they are yeah stats and achievements
um so blah blah something something something etc etc etc um
more touted that their existing free to play efforts with their most successful
games battlefield and fifa i don't think he quite understands what free to play
means because battlefields uh there's there's
battlefield 3 or whatever okay it's not battlefield three i don't
think yeah it's like there's okay so with their with their most successful
so i guess they're saying their most successful franchises so
yeah um i don't think necessarily think they're gonna take battlefield 4 or
battlefield 5 and make them free to play but i guess they're going to look at
monetizing older games this way i think yeah i think they'll take older
platforms more more little kind of scaled down
platforms make them free to play and this might be a more major turn for the
future as well maybe battlefield 6 comes out fully free to play who knows or
something like that i mean i i gotta wonder at what point though because i
mean free to play has worked so well because it was different
whereas i think that people will eventually wise up to that if they
bought the mp5 in battlefield 4 and they're buying it
again in battlefield 5 and again in battlefield 6 that they've just given ea
16 for the same gun a lot of people the
anger bubble is growing the anger bubble is definitely growing over free to play
speaking of anger bubbles nintendo 2ds so this was a joystick article i'm going
to tweet this out um it looks like a kid's toy which i guess
it is but it doesn't look like a very good kid's toy
i wouldn't buy it for my kid my favorite thing was when i was looking at it i was
like oh that doesn't look very comfortable to hold no and then you see
the kid playing and he's like uh and i'm like yeah that doesn't look
comfortable they look better it it really looks like um like fisher
price and this this wedge shape they're going for you know sony tried a wedge shape
for a tablet it was a complete and utter failure they
were like yeah well our concept is that we uh we want it to feel like holding a
book if i wanted to feel like i was holding a book i'd hold a book
if i wanted to feel like i was holding a doorstop i'd hold a doorstop i'd mod a
screen into it or two
and he wouldn't be 3d yeah my thing is like
okay release a costed down version release a cost of down version that's a
2ds okay that's fine that's what a lot of people have been asking for anyways
add a freaking hinge and i mean the fact that one of the screens is smaller like i understand the
touchscreen really is a secondary screen but when you look at like like the bomb
cost for something like a phone when you actually like look at what these screens
cost how many pennies did they save like really pennies or even a dollar
by doing it this way and i mean i understand that a dollar over 10 million
units is now 10 million dollars i get that i really do
but okay so it plays all 3ds and vs games
but in 2d which i guess is sort of a step in the
right direction yeah i it's just it's too bad that the device itself is too
deep
anyway i just if it folded i would actually be completely on the other side
of the team like if you
so with that i'm actually going to segue into and i know this is going to be
awkward because this is not squarespace so uh we we have gone through we have gone
through quite a thing over the last uh over the last little bit here so we're
going desktop we're going this we're going to our new
sponsor for this week which we're actually
pretty excited about so if you guys haven't heard of hotspot shield it's
basically either an app or a service kind of depending on how you use it it's
definitely a service but it's also an app available for mobile platforms that
is a vpn so if you're not familiar with what a vpn is can you give sort of the
networking explanation of what that means it's it's
you're basically making it so everyone on the outside of your computer thinks
that your computer is somewhere else and is someone else and is someone else so
basically the implications for that is if you don't want your activity logged
by your isp you can use a vpn if you don't want search providers and all this
kind of stuff creating profiles for you you can use a vpn if you're behind a
school firewall and you really need to get contact with your mom you can't call her but you know she's on facebook you
can use a vpn there's a whole bunch of other use cases but those are
i mean i think one of the strongest use cases for it is getting around regional
restrictions i mean as a canadian where really i feel like america's hat a lot
of the time and i'm like yeah i understand this is an american tv show
we want real netflix too but right
you know why why am i getting the sort of like
pablum edition of everything and you know i think something like south park
was one of the things that was most frustrating to me back when they used to stream it on i guess it was comedy
central and all of a sudden there was this regional restriction oh sorry we
can't stream this in canada and i'm like are you are you freaking kidding me a
vpn will get around that so the way that their service works is i think there's a
couple of different um there's a couple of different places where your vpn ip
can come from so it will appear as if your traffic is coming from somewhere
other than where you're actually located so i know that they can assign us ones
very easily so if you're someone in australia or canada or the uk and you
want to get access to u.s ip services or or u.s shows or anything
like that this can be a great way to do it something that they also advertise is
that if you're on a mobile data plan it only works on iOS right now so something
like an iphone it can actually compress web pages that you're downloading on the
fly for you so that you actually effectively use less of your data so
because they are an intermediary for the connection the website sends it to them
they go oh okay this could be compressed a little bit and then it goes if they
beam that like i'm using the word beam i sound like i sound like a politician
series of two okay so they tube it uh to your phone so
your your mobile carrier actually never
sees that larger data set that the website would have served to you
so this is particularly useful if you're viewing full desktop versions of
websites which can be full of all kinds of you know whether it's flash banners
which is less of a concern these days but any kind of uh content that is going
to be very data i mean you could load up a thread on the Linus tech tips forum
with you know two mag massive pictures in it by accident and it's like oh crap
right so anyway there you go guys hotspot shield we do have an offer code
for you guys so you can save up to 20
off with the code Linus so definitely go check that out the free version of the
application is available however it definitely is pretty aggressive about
prompting you to take advantage of the paid version so if
you do decide that you like the service you can get a trial as well that is ad
free so if you try that one out and you decide you like it please do remember to
use code Linus and you can save a few bucks on that so thank you very much again to
hotspot shield for sponsoring the WAN Show here in our sort of haphazard uh
setup that we've got going on here and let's go ahead and move into our next
topic speaking of sponsors for the lan show i guess we might as well we forgot
to wear our headsets because we barely even remembered to pack them we were
like running around everywhere there we go razor combs so if you guys haven't
tried razer comms yet it's razer's voice chat clap platform that you can use for
chatting with your fellow gamers it has overlays that don't kill you the same
way the skype ones do and for all of you guys
when we did our video about why we were using razer comms for collins for all of
you guys who are all like yeah you guys really brought up that uh the skype ip
resolver thing is a problem of the beta fix yeah the beta didn't fix it so we
actually have a huge apology that we owe
to shaw yeah our internet provider we thought
they were throttling us one of the times it was an issue with them which was just
terrible terrible timing yeah terrible
timing which led us to believe that that cemented the diagnosis for us so they've
actually only had a problem with our connection one time other than that in
spite of skype beta being used uh the ip
resolver works we were being ddosed so we will no longer be using skype
internally at all we can't skype is dead
to me um so i'm going to be using
i'll be using razer comms for again for voice communication i'll be using google
talk i'll be using anything but skype at this point so guys if you're using skype
ditch it it's time because it is as simple as anyone knowing your skype
username they key it in they see not only your current ip
but a history of ips where you've signed into skype so they're gonna have the ip
of your office your home your mother's home wherever you happen to sign into
skype and use it so guys peace out skype it was nice knowing you
i preferred msn thanks all right me too i love those old new
usernames everyone's old usernames on msn were amazing
it's just so good all right what do we got here ah
adblock buying ads this is fascinating this did you see my notes oh is it live
again i feel very strongly about this
like super super low strongly so i'm tweeting out this thread on the forum
guys this was posted by mac on the forum thank you very much for submitting this
topic guys remember you can have a chance to be featured on the WAN Show
which basically makes you a celebrity oh yeah if you post in the news section of
the Linus tech tips forum so
for a while i guess the video oh you know what it might still be set to private because sometimes the thumbnails
load yeah the video is set to private now so ad block uh you know what here go
when i checked it the video was set to private and the website was not loading
so i actually don't know a lot about the campaign or other than the fact that
adblock was buying ads which is ridiculous so they're buying ads for
adblock they wanted to crowdfund
the concept of them buying up ad space so that ads wouldn't
be able to be in it and it sounds noble at first but hold on
so they even wanted to crowdfund something like a super bowl ad and i'm
kind of looking at it going okay well a that's insane because that's a lot of
money that's a lot of money but b the people who feel really strongly about
adblock and that the internet should be ad free might be willing to pony up for
that kind of a utopian future and they also need to uh get on the reality train
because it ain't gonna happen the internet would shut down tomorrow if ads
didn't exist on the internet mark my words if these guys are buying space
that it can be empty they'll just run out of money and then it won't matter
yes the internet will keep being supported by ads and you know what the
reality of it is is creators like us do rely on ads i mean you know what i
think this is a great time to give a huge shout out to the forum for all the
support they gave us through the first blood campaign i mean i think some
people thought that we weren't going to talk about how much money we've taken in we've taken in over 11 000 already you
guys have been absolutely amazing and i feel like you know we want to be
accountable to you guys about what we're gonna use the money for so probably
anywhere from half to two-thirds of it is going to retroactively cover
everything we've spent on the forum up until now it has been a lot it has been
a lot and then some of the other stuff is going to be used to allocate towards
some new back-end software we need in order to i think what we need an
encrypted back-end thing that's like six hundred dollars a year or something stupid like that
round i'm hopefully trying to work on one that's less than 600 a year but it's
it's a lot encrypted we need some new modules for the forum that are pay
modules we've relied on a lot of free ones and a lot of you know really
generous people to help us keep things going we want to be able to pay generous
people who have helped us keep things going so wind speed has been actually
paying out of his own pocket to host that forum for a long time we want to
pay him back so that like we can actually be self-sustaining and i mean
the community's response to that has been absolutely amazing but what i need
to throw in there is that eleven thousand
dollars is a lot of money but it's not
because eleven thousand dollars is going to pay for all that stuff
and then at some point we're going to need to run another campaign and the form is going to need to to keep
bringing in money and that doesn't even actually pay for any of the salaries of
any of the people who are working on it no we didn't factor it in no
so it is extremely expensive
to have people and staff and make videos
and uh and buy equipment and have a place to
do it and all of those things and we rely on ads in a big way whether it's
something that we're integrating in the video like the sponsorship from razer comms which by the way download using
the bitly link it helps us out a lot don't know how to say that in a way that
can be more clear whether it's whether it's through that
or whether it's through google ads or whatever else the case may be if the
internet didn't have ads tomorrow if ad block became 100 effective and it could
even block me talking about this right now i would run out of money and
every any creator would not be able to create unless they also had a day job
which i really feel would hurt the quality of the content i like to believe
that it would have to what we've produced since i was no longer at ncix
is better than what i was able to make when it was just like me with a chest
tripod in a corner of my house in the attic trying to make a video
and not fall asleep while i was trying to make it because i had to be at work the next morning and i had only just
gotten back home from work an hour ago so there you go guys it's honestly this
campaign makes no sense yeah because they're paying for the ad and it's
temporary they're not buying out ad space yeah adblock needs to screw right
off so there you go um with that said if you feel very very
strongly that you absolutely must have adblock obvious obviously there's
nothing i can do to stop you but i do thank the people who don't use it and i
mean i know there's some people that do use it on the forum for example and
contributed to first blood if that's the compromise that works for
you guys then as long as we're finding a way to stay in business then you know
we're okay but if there were no ads that's my whole point that future of the
internet doesn't exist we're gonna make a makeup channel no one uses that blog
i know right the best yeah all the like least tech savvy yeah that's that's what
we're gonna do you know we're gonna abandon technology because you guys are
all too tech savvy for us um
this is awesome battlefield 4 runs at 720p upscaled to 1080p on
playstation 4. i'm going to tweet this out go
so yeah upscale to 1080p runs at 720p runs at 60fps though so it was a
compromise apparently they could have done 1080p but at FPS
so if they're doing the oh but you want it to be smoother kind of thing which
compromising for consoles just always compromises for consoles
um i mean basically my take on this is are we really surprised i mean here's
here's the crazy thing is everyone's talking 4k
next-gen consoles they're talking 720p on current
games i mean battlefield 4 isn't even running
a new frostbite engine
it's kind of pathetic like i was looking at were you looking at battlefield 4
today running on the uh they weren't running on xbox ones but they were
running on like kind of crappy pcs kind of thing wasn't supposed to be simulated
basically yeah yeah it looked i was like okay it looks like battlefield 3. i i
actually did two takes of my whole thing in front of it one of which was um okay
so it looks like consoles finally have battlefield 3 because uh the last time i
saw battlefield 3 being played on a console it was on an xbox 360 and i was
like i was looking at it going like what is that counter strike because i had
never seen it run on a console before i'd only seen it on a pc and i was like
no it looks like hey they're finally catching up but what's that aliasing
and like oh the frame rates on everything i was watching people playing racing games and i was just like ew
it's disgusting racing games at 3dfps are you freaking kidding me steambox
people build your own steam box i'm like okay i was i was making fun of forza as
well because i was like oh check that out it's got great graphics just like
we've had for years oh hey check that out it's got like surround sound around
like a cool like car driving seat that's modded into a display just like pc has
been having for years oh hey look they have surround monitors just like pc's
had for you oh wait no no i don't that's not a thing
yes this is kind of brutal i know i know you
can do surround monitors on consoles but you need multiple consoles
they can talk to each other that is such a joke dude just just buy more consoles
you know what this is this is the lecture i gave at the meetup today at
pax uh where i had probably about eight people who i hope heard me
you don't have to buy new pc hardware i'ma let that sink in for a minute
go buy a 5870 they're cheap you can get
those things cheap used maybe 50 bucks 60 bucks that
is a very capable card it is iffinity capable you can pick up non-tn monitors
these days for a hundred dollars less than a hundred dollars so for a few
hundred bucks you throw that card into whatever pc you're running you throw a
few monitors on it holy crap what a gaming experience you have that cannot
be replicated on a console like
this this is a big thing in the whole discussion we're like oh you can't build
a computer for this jeep it's like yeah that's
possibly true possibly you can if you go through other
means yes you know what where there's a will there's a way it is possible to build a
pc that is competitive with a console or better and is as cheap or cheaper than a
console 500 is a lot of money and that's what microsoft's asking for xbox one so
yeah i can't like flail my hands around in front of that pc and expect it to do
anything but quite frankly with the experience i've had with connect in the past i'm not expecting it to do much
anyway they had some connect demo that they were showing off today with xbox one and
like the whole demo was just like a character customization screen so we
eventually walked away from it it was just kind of stupid anyway we've tweeted out another topic i
want to make sure we cover all of our headline topics because we notoriously
do that yeah we're like yeah upcoming on the WAN Show things we're not going to
talk about after all um so NVIDIA is rumored to be releasing
a dual gk 110 graphics card so these
chips are gonna have to be pretty drawn back i think i disagree
and i'm gonna hold on i'm going somewhere with this okay so AMD has
exceeded the pci express back already with 79.90 so the precedence been set
okay whatever screw specifications apparently it's game over for that
um so this would be you know the two
graphics cards are supposedly so there's supposedly according to videocards.com a
couple of graphics cards so a gtx titan ultra and a supposed gtx 790. the rumor
is that gtx 790 won't be more than a thousand dollars um they say making such
a graphics card might be a challenge et cetera okay they're already making
uh boards for NVIDIA grid that have four
gk 110s on them so
they clearly have the technology so to speak what is that and uh
wind speed says uh when new consoles cost a thousand dollars in australia you
can definitely buy a new pc for the cost of a console anyway if they can do that
then i think it's doable if they could build gtx 295 with the technology they
had then that was a very power hungry chip i'm just the only reason why i said
drawback was i shouldn't say drawn back chips vrm later on that is gonna be
ridiculous that'll be ridiculous but uh Radeon hd7990 was ridiculous as well and
i mean NVIDIA does such a great job of
the electrical design of their cards they never coil wine for the most part
they've done a great job of cooling i mean you look at something like gtx
titan or gtx 690 how quiet
those cards are yeah if they kind of went okay well okay let's let it make a
little bit of noise could they cool the thing i think so
could they make the board longer i mean remember it wasn't that long ago that
graphics cards were getting longer and longer every generation
many i mean i would go as far as to say most gaming cases these days can
accommodate a 12-inch card 30 centimeters used to be a big problem
though used to be a big problem but i mean it's evolved since then how many
gaming cases these days have removable hard drive pages that you could put a 15
inch graphics card in it and if NVIDIA's gonna say look it's a thousand dollar
graphics card buy it you know what you can get a Corsair 300r for less than a
hundred dollars go buy a case if you want to have this
unbelievable gaming experience so i don't know i don't i don't i you
know what's funny is i talked to NVIDIA today and they were basically like come
on man and i was like come on and they were like come on man you know
you know we can't talk this i'm like come on
i got nothing you know what i did get though i got a carrying case for my shield really yeah they were selling
them in the booth and i was like yo dawg
it was like a big problem it took like 15 minutes
which were they got 30 bucks i should have just bought one because i felt
terrible the amount of time i wasted of people who i know make six
it's figures oops
because like they had to go get someone who had to go check with the person
overseeing the entire move who had to go and override something in
their system because they had like an inventory system i was like yeah i
feel really bad about this because like my pr guy was like yeah we'll just send
you one i was like dude it's gonna cost you like 40 bucks to ship me that to
canada remember i'm in canada he's like oh yeah crap okay i'll see if i can do it i was
like thank you it's so nice it's really nice i want a shield that i
can't uh we got the uh i had a bit of a problem with the buttons on my first
shield sample i know it's the new one's way better have you you've tried it yeah
yeah oh it's way better i took it out of the box because i wanted to ship this
one in the box because i had to ship the other one back right yeah and when i
took it out of the box it's like i want to try it but no i don't have time
to put it down oh it's so awesome uh when i'm done the review you can play
around with it for a bit sweet and uh then you can decide it because you're
gonna buy one right that's your plan now oh right you got a car oh
but i do want to at some point all right let's uh i don't know let's maybe pick
like two or three more topics and maybe i can get you back for half an hour a game sure i'm sorry i feel terrible
about this guys it takes forever to get the stream set up today i'm more
sad for the huge group of people that i've dragged along with me i blame
comcast although you know what maybe i should just back off on blaming isps for things
for a while
maybe it was just a horrible timing because shaw said they were borrowing us that
one weekend guys hit us up on twitter we want to do a twitter blitz here just hit
us with some random q a and you know what i want to say a huge thank you to
everyone who's watching we have 2 700 viewers in spite of the fact that we are
streaming at four or five hours later completely the wrong time of day you
know we were supposed to have marcus brownlee on as our guest today really
but when i realized that it just he
scoops he's east coast oh no so it just wouldn't have worked at all
although i'm hoping to make an appearance on the tech at some point and
i'm hoping to appear in a pirillo vlog because everyone's here everybody's here
so it's going to be it's going to be fun over the next couple days i'm going to try and find some time for that awesome
but thank you guys so much for watching and we're sorry it's at the wrong time
we're going to be back to the regular schedule next week our guest next week is tiny tom logan and our guest the week
after that is marcus brownlee from mkbhd so we've got some really good guests
coming up i think you guys are gonna love it so um
here we go topic
evga has the mini itx hadron case with an integrated psu looks really sharp uh
siri apparently responds snarkily when
asked to talk about google glass um
your comment is would this have happened under jobs absolutely
yes i but i said that but jobs would have had a response
that's the second line there is there would have been an answer
there wouldn't it wouldn't have just been like oh yeah so uh glass sucks it
would have been like yeah glass sucks here's an alternative or we're
developing this because that glass thing isn't ready yet but we're gonna have
something that's awesome so here's some of the snarky responses i just tweeted out the thread from top war gamer i uh
i think that glass is half empty Dan stop trying to strap me to your forehead
Dan it won't work um glass i think you've got the wrong
assistant Dan i'm not glass and i'm just fine with
that so these are these are some examples of some of the things siri might might say
if asked about google glass i don't know i don't think it's that funny i
they're they're not that funny yeah one if they were really funny i think it
would be weird and it probably would be really funny if it was under jobs
because he probably wouldn't have let it come out if it was just kind of weird
and lame lenovo's gonna start shipping an aftermarket start menu with their pcs
this is interesting what a kick in the what a kick in the balls for microsoft
just do something it's like yeah your concept we don't like it because it
sucks and you know what's you know what's you know what's something that i i actually feel kind of bad about this
because i i don't know you know this i was the i was the head of pc systems
when i was at ncix so the decision
for whether or not to just install a start menu on every Windows 8 pc that
that we shipped i i nixed it i said no
because i had concerns about the eula
i had concerns about you know getting proper licensing in place for the start
menu um ncix compared to lenovo is a
relatively small fry i had concerns about damaging the relationship with
microsoft by undermining the initiative that they were trying to
do for better or for worse um
but now that lenovo's kind of gone down that road i think the others are gonna
fall you need that to defend your i'm gonna defend and not
defend your position one it's really really helpful to have that big guy do
it first yes two i think you could have avoided a lot of those issues if you
didn't do it by default and had it as an option because if it's a user selected
option i think that opens a lot of doors if it's a you but i mean a lot of even
free programs a lot of them the way that the licensing works is that you're
you're not allowed to uh install it on behalf of someone else
that's a big problem okay so it would have had to be a complicated deal and i
don't know that ncix would have even gotten the kind of attention that someone like lenovo would have for
reaching out to a classic start or whoever else the case may be so
yeah i don't know like i felt kind of like i i knew the right thing to do a
lot of work from a user perspective yeah was install it but then on the other
hand what if it confuses people what if they're not expecting to have a start menu you'd have to it would have to be
user selected yeah i don't think you could do it by default i mean i think
what we ended up doing was we put an install
file in the middle of the desktop okay so i mean do you do you think that's a
good compromise that's not a bad compromise maybe something you could have done is just had a mass copied
notepad that explained what it was so AMD has updated their roadmap to
reflect 2014 market changes so they are
anticipating that they will be shipping 70 percent apus while cpus which to be
clear are kind of the same thing but they don't have an onboard graphics
core are going to make up only 30 of sales in i think what are you saying
2014 here so by the end i don't know your dates are all mixed up on this uh
but the am3 in 2014 AMD's am3 socket
will retire after five years and i think they're counting am2 am2 plus a m3 am 3
plus or whatever whatever it is anyway that socket is going to retire
now with that said apu is not necessarily a bad direction
particularly with the way that you look you look at the way that applications
like adobe premiere even are going to leverage the CPU and the opencl
capabilities of that processor we could be looking at the potential oh that no
film school article from b-roll isn't in here
with the uh the mac mini built into the camera that must not have synced okay
you know where to add that one well we'll talk about it next week because i want to wrap this up but anyway um so
AMD is is just saying well no it's a cp with a graphics card but the way that
that's going to work it might end up being more useful to have a quad or a
six core CPU with an equally large graphics core that
accelerates all the other things your computer does and more efficiently
so you know i think a lot of people are looking at this going well okay it's the
death of enthusiast grade cpus
maybe not what if a game engine could be optimized
to leverage your dedicated graphics card to actually draw the image on the screen
your CPU for your ai
and your GPU component of your apu for
oh i don't know uh physics calculations or something along those lines what if
we just need to utilize it better and the reality of it is it's not just AMD
pushing this Intel's haswell uh Intel's haswell gener
Intel's haswell fourth generation core whatever okay
haswell from Intel is basically didn't do a whole lot to the
CPU component but they massively beefed up the GPU on there from AMD's
definition that's an apu it's also capable of the same kind of
like heavily parallelized compute uh performance
as AMD's solution yeah and like you said if they optimize
different things for it it makes a lot of sense we're looking at a completely
different way of building a CPU i mean apu could be that and and with future i
can't remember the name it is actually yeah yeah i can't remember the name of
it but the thing they're saying ps4 has over xbox
uh uh homogeneous system architecture or
whatever it is schema or whatever it's called yeah um anyway the point is that
the uh the CPU and the GPU can access the memory at the same time and share
with each other in a way that's totally unique and hasn't been done before which
would also help that whole situation that you were talking about yes
so i mean we could be looking at um oh i really wanna you know really really i
wanna talk about that camera um i gotta talk about this camera i
can't i can't find the link right now i'm sorry guys but there's a camera
being shown off right now that's basically what is it a two and a half k camera brandon yeah okay so it's a two
and a half k camera that has a mac mini built into it
so what that means is if you were out in the field for example you could shoot
uh you could cut together you could output and you could upload from one
machine so you get home from your shoot you put that on your desk you plug your
monitor and peripherals into it boom now you're editing now i think that a
mac mini is ridiculous for this kind of an application and
makes absolutely no sense but where i see the potential here is i
i actually had this argument in the car with edzel who is diesel and brandon who
is b-roll because apparently we're all using real names now i have now tweeted that article so you can grab it awesome
um i'll just retweet it here yeah if i if i can so
uh let's retweet that right now there we go hopefully it doesn't tell me i'm not
allowed to do that go go go all right so i retweeted that so um so the argument i
had was because they were saying oh well that's that's stupid we'll always want
dedicated devices for things i went no hold on because oh yeah yeah yeah edsel was
saying it'll always be cheaper to have a
specialized chip that just does the one thing when you build a camera and i said
not necessarily think about it this way what's cheaper a 16 gig sd card or a one
gig sd card well they cost the same they cost the
same now because the way that miniaturization works the way that moore's law works is that you actually
get to the point where the bomb cost of building this thing is identical whether
you build it at a lower a lower manufacturing process or a higher one
that it and and just squeeze more into it it actually doesn't really matter the bomb
cost is the same so we could get to the point
where that processor that you would have normally found in a camera that specialized thing well maybe that's
going to be a tegra 9 or a tegra 10 or something along those
lines and when you look at the kind of specialized hardware that someone like
an NVIDIA or an AMD is putting into an apu or an soc such as a tegra where it's
going to support um various codecs and hardware uh hardware
encoding and decoding and all those things we could be looking at a situation where no rather than ever
having a specialized camera device we could actually have every camera be a
full system and then you could unlock functionality like um shooting editing
within the camera which let's face it we can already do on smartphones anyway so if you could edit within your camera now
all of a sudden maybe we've got who knows maybe it's 6g
uh cellular data at that point now maybe you could be the ultimate vlogger and
you could have a live stream all the time in full hd quality and then you
could sit down and you could edit at the end of the day if you're done streaming
and and you could have this device that's so versatile and so connected and
it could be the only one you own at that point you might not need a desktop computer anymore at all because that
might be so powerful i mean that that is what this concept
means to me in the future um and it's obviously a mac mini is
ridiculous and that's not going to work because editing two and a half k footage
on a mac mini is gonna be stupid but at some point at some point
the cost of i mean i think the bomb cost on something like a tiger chip is under
25 dollars so at some point tegra whatever the heck
is going to be so powerful and not more expensive than something else it's just
going to make sense to do it and i'm really excited about that it's i find this interesting because i don't i don't
know a lot about film but one thing that's been happening a lot lately is the barrier of entry for just anyone
that wants to start making videos is constantly going down yes the ability to
do different things seems to constantly be going down yeah so being able to live
stream something from an event oh being possible random joe blow is gonna be
really ridiculous it's going to be amazing i mean it's going to be it's going to be
like the next generation of of uh
accessibility of being able to socially broadcast your thoughts to everyone it's
absolutely amazing and i i feel very strongly that it's awesome
so let's go ahead and do that twitter blitz that i promised before and then
we're going to peace out and i'll take you back to the land we'll go as fast as
we can here bro i feel very bad about this
have i seen logan yet yes i have not i ran into him twice
slick smile why wouldn't microsoft be able to run
xbox one software with Windows 7 8 that could mean you just make your own pc
um because they don't want to yeah they could they definitely could i want to
see an operon sized apu probably will happen at some point you
still in seattle you think so yeah at some point maybe
because apu's gonna that beat everything i think they will go that way
are you still in seattle uh no yes i teleported uh hey i'm new to pc
gaming my friend said i couldn't play future games on ultra high what do you think well it depends
what post on the forum post online is tech tips forum and post your rig specs
yeah what do you think of a 30 mx blue keyboard which are reasonably well built
but don't have the bells and whistles do it
sure if you don't want the belt like yeah if you only have 30 bucks it's that
versus membrane do it yeah uh someone
says b-roll is dying from work man down man down rule
b-roll is rolling two at night here in the east coast but
isn't Intel also an apu yes uh and it's terminology yeah terminology
AMD wants to call it apu until doesn't yeah i have a gtx 560 ti on PCIe 2.0
will a newer PCIe 3 work on my older motherboard yes
whoops didn't know it was a topic okay
could you explain about the shot incident in more detail maybe next week
uh we've already covered that really want to know what the big deal is about Windows 8 not having a start menu what
are they missing go uh it's it's usability you're adding so many more
steps why add so many more steps more clicks is bad my mom's vesta computer
came with classic start installment by default maybe that's something that they're doing now that i'm gone so there
you go uh what's your opinion on choosing a device to stream this is
probably the russian who came up with it what's your opinion for choosing a device to stream videos from my nas and
surf the net http or Android mini pc
um i would i go httpc but i i don't pay a lot for computer components so i i
prefer the functionality of an htpc but it's much more expensive a lot of people
can get like old
computers it's not that hard to get an old computer and you don't need a powerful
computer to be an httpc at all no so i
would look into like trying to inherit one from a relative or even just going
somewhere where they kind of throw away computers i think we talked a fair bit about AMD uh abandoning fx and sort of
the rumors circulating around that do you think that this century is having the most technological advances and
probably the biggest for a good while uh yeah
it it always yeah is there enough
benefit in going matx over mitx price wise
no um the benefit is more expansion slots
yeah thoughts on the video game high school season two if you watch them have
you watched any yet it's been good so far i've liked it i like that they
spread out before they only did one game basically only did one game and now it's
still focused on the one game but they're spreading out more which is nice
all right so without further ado and my
wireless link to this freaking thing is uh causing me causing me grief i'm
actually going to i'm going to ask you guys to bear with me while i do while i
load up our outro manual thank you manually thank you so much for watching
tonight you guys you're awesome as usual and uh we will see you again
next week and i really hope that i can find
the file that i'm looking for here because that that is a challenge
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