WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.680 Sometimes we unbox a product because we want to find out if it's good. And 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:12.880 sometimes we unbox it because we know it's good. And the Fly Digi Apex 4 is 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:14.719 the latter. It is the most premium 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:19.039 offering that Fly Digi makes in the controller space. If you don't know who 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:24.320 Fly Digi is, they are, I guess, a smaller company in, you know, 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:26.800 competition to Sony and Xbox. Uh, making 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:31.920 controllers in the PC predominantly space. Uh, and they are quite popular. 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:36.880 If you go over on r/controllers in the box, we have 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:41.280 a 6 ft cable cuz it's just longer than my wingspan. We have our USB dongle 00:00:39.680 --> 00:00:47.600 because it's a wireless controller. It can do uh 1000 hertz over 2.4 GHz. It 00:00:45.040 --> 00:00:50.320 can do Bluetooth. Uh it can do wired. Uh and with the dongle, it can actually 00:00:48.879 --> 00:00:55.680 work with a Nintendo Switch, which is pretty nifty. And then we have the 00:00:52.879 --> 00:00:59.280 controller itself. Also inside the box, we have this little package that I'm 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:06.479 guessing is going to be a quick start guide as well as illuminate your 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:10.400 personalized light panel. 00:01:06.479 --> 00:01:13.520 I think that's to replace the Fly Digi 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:15.280 logo here. I guess presumably you could 00:01:13.520 --> 00:01:23.439 put something on it. That's a weird one to have four of. Also, SIM card removal 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:24.720 tool. What? This isn't a cell phone. 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:33.920 Finally, we arrive at the controller itself, and it's got a pretty nifty white and transparent aesthetic, which 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:36.000 is pretty cool. The fa front face plate, 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:41.759 the front face plate actually comes off, which is pretty cool. Um, one of the 00:01:39.520 --> 00:01:45.360 weird design oversight things that I don't like about it is that in order to 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:48.640 take the face plate off, you actually have to take the sticks and D-pad off. I 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:54.720 forgot you had to take the sticks, that's why I kind of forced it. But then when you're under here, you can better 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:59.759 see the rumble motors, uh, the Hall effect sticks modules that are pretty 00:01:57.520 --> 00:02:03.759 freaking nice looking. These look very R2-D2esque. 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:09.679 But most importantly, under here is the sick tension adjustment, little 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:14.000 screwies. On the front is a pretty standard Xbox 00:02:12.160 --> 00:02:20.640 layout. We've got our face buttons, our asymmetrical sticks, our clicky D-pad. I 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:25.280 really don't like this. It's not very tactile. It feels like there's really 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:29.840 not much response to it. It's not horrible. It also feels like it travels 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:33.200 more on the left side. I've had to give up finding a controller that is an 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:36.720 excellent controller but also has a really good D-pad because it's just such 00:02:35.040 --> 00:02:40.800 an afterthought in the way that modern games are interacted with. This is for 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:45.200 your, you know, squad commands or your your inventory. So, this is sufficient. 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:49.760 The face buttons are also mechanical style. So, if you're used to like an Xbox or a PlayStation controller, it 00:02:48.480 --> 00:02:54.640 might feel a little bit strange to you. I've come to really like this feel, 00:02:52.239 --> 00:03:00.560 although this one has a bit of mush in it, too. Not bad. Better than most 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:02.159 controllers these days. The sticks feel 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:06.480 amazing. These ones have already been adjusted because we use this in a cool 00:03:04.239 --> 00:03:10.879 video coming over on the LT channel. I'll tell you a little bit later about. 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:15.519 Um, but they just feel heavy and responsive and tight. Oh, so good. Start 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:18.959 select is fine. At the bottom of the front, we have a home and a function 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:22.319 button that you can assign using the software. Uh, and then we move to the 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:27.680 bottom. On the bottom, it's pretty simple. It's just pins for an optional 00:03:24.640 --> 00:03:29.280 dock that you can buy. It's $20, which 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:32.480 is nice that they don't just roll it into the cost of this controller cuz you 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:37.040 might not actually want that dock. On the back, we have our onoff switch as 00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:40.959 well as our four paddle buttons uh that you'll be able to assign in software. 00:03:38.799 --> 00:03:45.840 And then on the top, we have our bumpers and our triggers, as well as our type-C, 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:49.040 cuz this is 2025 and things have type-C, which is great. As well as what I 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:51.920 believe are locking channels for a locking cable, so you won't just yank 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:56.319 out your cable. Although, I couldn't find uh a specific cable for this 00:03:54.799 --> 00:03:59.200 purpose. Let me know in the comments down below if you have this cable that 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:05.840 would lock with this. Now that we're done exploring, let's see how this thing feels in the hand. It feels very premium 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:10.959 in the hand. It's quite heavy. It's over 310 g, which puts it definitely in the 00:04:08.799 --> 00:04:15.200 heavyweight contender category. Uh the rubberized grip is actually pretty nice, 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:18.880 although you can already see we've barely used this one and it's already 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:23.280 getting dirty or worn and so that's definitely a consideration. The face 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:26.880 plate plastic is actually pretty nice. Um I was a little bit worried it would 00:04:25.280 --> 00:04:31.280 feel super cheap. Sometimes the face plate units just feel so crappy. I 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:35.759 really like these bumpers. It doesn't seem like equal travel on every part of 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:40.240 it, but it does feel clicky and responsive uh on the whole button. And 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:44.160 these triggers, the shape of them is really nice. Uh and the resistance is 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:48.880 really, really nice. And they hide one of the killer features of this controller, which is adaptive triggers, 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:53.520 which we will get to in a little bit. Oh my gosh, there's so much to get to. 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:58.240 We're coming back to the sticks because this was actually the thing that started 00:04:56.479 --> 00:05:01.600 getting me to switch my mind about alternate controllers. I knew that 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:05.520 sticks mattered to me when I first picked up an Asus controller and they're 00:05:03.840 --> 00:05:08.960 like the lightest, least resistant sticks I've ever felt and it just felt 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:12.400 cheap and wrong. When I found out that the Fly Digi lineup you could actually 00:05:10.479 --> 00:05:15.440 adjust your tension on the fly, I thought that was kind of a gimmick 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:18.880 because uh I'm not going to be adjusting it as I play. But what I realized is 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:25.520 that it's not about on the fly adjustment. It's about finding the tension you like and being able to set 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:29.680 that exactly how you want. Yo, what? Uh, secret compartment holds 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:34.639 the actual tool to adjust your stick tension. This is so cool. Okay, I dig 00:05:32.479 --> 00:05:38.320 that. It's not just aesthetics, it's practical. So, the way it works is you 00:05:36.479 --> 00:05:42.880 turn it and you adjust the tension of the spring, which resets the analog 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.000 sticks to their center. These are Hall effect sensors, which is great because 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:49.919 theoretically that means there shouldn't be any wear and tear that causes stick 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:55.120 drift in these. They should run for a very long time. At the light end, it's 00:05:51.919 --> 00:05:56.880 about 33 g of force to move the sticks. 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:01.759 And at the heavier end, it's about 100. Just for reference, an Xbox controller 00:05:58.880 --> 00:06:06.240 sits closer to the bottom at 55. 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Well, that was easy. Plug 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.880 the dongle in, turn the controller on, and away we go. There's actually two 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:57.199 extra features that I didn't even mention in the unboxing portion. There's 00:06:51.039 --> 00:06:59.280 RGB uh and a screen. I don't think it's 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:02.160 that great of a feature. Uh we looked at a controller recently that had a screen 00:07:00.479 --> 00:07:05.840 on it. Uh that is more fully featured than this one. This one seems to be 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:09.520 mostly kind of an aesthetic thing and I would way rather have battery life than 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:14.400 a screen on my controller. But that's just me. Let's take a look at the software and see what kind of 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:18.720 configuration we can do. I literally just installed this brother. While this 00:07:17.039 --> 00:07:22.880 is downloading, I can tell you that it's a little bit annoying, Fly Digi, that I 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:26.319 had to find a Reddit post to link to a Russian version of your website to be 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:31.280 able to get the software for my PC. Your North American website sees to only want 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:35.759 to push the phone app, which I have zero interest in using. If I'm using a 00:07:33.280 --> 00:07:40.400 controller on a PC, I would like to use the PC to adjust the settings, not have 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.280 to connect to a phone via Bluetooth, disconnect from the phone, and then plug 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:48.160 into a computer and then hope that the settings have translated. Please make 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.360 your website a little more better. 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:55.199 There's no other way to describe it. That's uh kind of silly. We are in the Fly Digi Space Station software, which 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:58.560 looks kind of primitive compared to some of the peripheral maker stuff, but that 00:07:57.039 --> 00:08:03.120 doesn't mean it's bad. Uh, in fact, it looks like I have access to more settings than I've seen on a lot of 00:08:01.440 --> 00:08:06.000 controllers. At our home, we can reassign all the buttons. That's 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:10.000 actually really nice for accessibility reasons. Currently, our back buttons 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:14.479 aren't set to anything, and I don't want to do that yet. We can adjust our 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:17.599 joystick dead zone, which is by default at zero. And then also the sensitivity 00:08:15.919 --> 00:08:22.160 curve. I'm going to leave it at default because I don't have a preference uh 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:25.680 across all games of how I want the sensitivity curve to be. Although, it's 00:08:23.919 --> 00:08:28.800 nice they have some presets you can muck around with. We have our gyro settings, 00:08:27.440 --> 00:08:32.719 which is pretty cool. And you can actually automatically assign the gyro 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:38.080 to one of the joysticks. So, if a game doesn't have gyro support, you can 00:08:34.880 --> 00:08:39.360 actually force it uh in the controller 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:43.680 software, which is actually pretty nice. You can actually assign it to mouse sensitivity, which is kind of cool. I'm 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:47.680 not a gyro shooter guy, but there's a lot of people that seem to be swearing by it, especially for those little micro 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:52.880 adjustments when you're sniping and stuff. So, very cool. The thing I'm most 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:54.640 interested in is the trigger settings. 00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:58.320 Um, like I briefly mentioned before, they are adaptive triggers, which are 00:08:56.160 --> 00:09:01.519 similar to the PS5's Dual Sense controller. Basically, what that means 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:05.279 is that developers can set different resistance levels of the trigger uh to 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:08.480 simulate different effects. So, as you pull back on a bow, it'll kind of have 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:12.800 that stretch feeling or when you're excelling in a car, it'll uh mimic the 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:15.519 the resistance that accelerator pedal will give you or in a shooting game, 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:19.120 kind of a trigger feel. It's not on a per game basis. And so, when you play on 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:22.480 PS5, you know, you're getting that support. And on PC, it's a little more 00:09:20.959 --> 00:09:28.800 hit and miss, although a lot of games do have it as well. So, you can per game 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:30.240 mode, uh, adjust the different settings, 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:34.880 uh, like the damping start position or the damping strength, which will 00:09:32.160 --> 00:09:38.399 simulate more of that hair trigger feel. I think it's a little bit disappointing 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:44.240 that the best controller that Flag Digi makes is missing, I think, one of the 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:46.160 killer features of its mid-tier 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:50.160 brethren, which is the hair trigger stops. If you don't know what that is, it's basically a little mechanical 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:53.360 switch that you go that forces the triggers to be very short action. So 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:57.839 that when you're playing competitive games, you don't have to pull the trigger all the way to shoot your gun. 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.680 You can just kind of like tap it. Uh much faster reaction time on stuff. You 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.839 can simulate that with these adaptive triggers, but it's not nearly to the 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.279 same effect. It just feels a lot heavier to press and then the dead zone would be 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:12.399 set right at the top so that as soon as you're doing it, you can set the recoil 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:14.959 mode, vibration start position. That's fun. I wonder if this is a software 00:10:13.760 --> 00:10:21.120 though that will kind of add this on top of games that don't support it or if it's just multiple settings I can change 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:24.720 uh that are all going to make it more messy when I'm in game later. You know 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:30.560 what? Doing the trigger lock setting makes it 00:10:27.839 --> 00:10:34.959 much closer to what having a real trigger stop feels like. You set the 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:39.760 damping position to 20. If you're just lightly tapping, I could be convinced 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.760 that this was a mechanical stop. However, if you're like a squeezer and 00:10:41.680 --> 00:10:48.720 you can easily get past that point and go all the way down, that's actually not 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:50.320 bad. I am kind of impressed that they 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.399 were able to simulate the the feeling of a mechanical stop that well. In the 00:10:52.160 --> 00:10:57.200 general tab, we can mess with our RGB. Um, couple different settings that are 00:10:56.079 --> 00:11:03.600 kind of cool. I'm going to turn it off cuz I like battery life. Does that turn the screen off? No, it doesn't. The 00:11:00.640 --> 00:11:08.480 screen stays on. Oh, that's a big bummer. Control vibration. Vibration 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:11.600 intensity all the way. Let's go. That's a lot of vibration, baby. That's 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:16.880 the kind that like would actually probably make me lose a little bit of control. So, I'm going to bring it back 00:11:13.680 --> 00:11:19.200 down to 69. 00:11:16.880 --> 00:11:21.519 Perfect. It's not the highest resolution rumble I've ever felt then. It's just 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.880 rumble motors doing their their spinning. It's pretty dang decent. If you're not expecting haptic feedbacks 00:11:24.800 --> 00:11:30.800 like there is in the JoyCons or the PS5 controller. Wow, there is so many 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:34.560 settings because I can make my different profiles here, but there's also this set 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:39.120 of tabs up top. So, PC config, we're at adaptive triggers. Oh, that's fun. Okay, 00:11:36.640 --> 00:11:42.399 so we can go into individual games and turn on the adaptive triggers. Dual 00:11:40.959 --> 00:11:47.200 sense mode. All right, we'll turn that on so we can test that out. I've also downloaded Derp 5, which is not on the 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:51.839 list. So, I think this is very specifically the games that are 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:56.240 supported. It looks like support isn't across everything, which is a little bit 00:11:53.279 --> 00:12:02.320 disappointing. All right. Screen settings. Where's the off button? 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:05.600 There is no off button. Oh, you got to 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:08.240 plug it into the wire to update the 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.959 graphic. I'm really not interested in having an animation on my controller. 00:12:09.760 --> 00:12:17.519 I'm going to try and find the one that has the least amount of movement for the least amount of distraction. Uploading 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:22.639 one of 17. Oh, I guess it's individual frames. Yo, rule the game, dog. I can't 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:27.279 wait to have that just going off non-stop in my peripheral vision. They 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:31.440 got uh off-brand Mario and Luigi. I think I've got to go Luigi in terms of 00:12:28.959 --> 00:12:36.880 class solidarity. Is this one? 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:41.279 Is it Mario twerking and Luigi pointing? I've got off-brand Mario twerking on my 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:44.480 controller. The thing I'll say is that the frame 00:12:42.959 --> 00:12:48.720 rate's wacky on the computer. It looks like it's holding the frames uh twice as 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:53.200 long and then here it's moving real fast. 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:57.760 Maybe I do want a screen on my my controller just so I can stare at Mario 00:12:55.360 --> 00:13:00.079 twerking nonstop. Strangely enough, the controller really wants to be in slot 00:12:58.959 --> 00:13:05.200 two. So, I'm going to pretend that I'm in a boss fight against Psycho Mantis. 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:06.639 Let's test the circularity. 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.760 That's pretty good circularity on the sticks. Uh, we actually had Labs test 00:13:08.560 --> 00:13:13.120 this controller because it's part of a big roundup we're doing on LT that you 00:13:11.680 --> 00:13:17.519 should make sure you're subscribed so you can see that as soon as it comes out cuz that's going to be a sick video. 00:13:15.680 --> 00:13:21.440 But, we tested these sticks to be pretty dang good. Uh, and it's appears that 00:13:19.839 --> 00:13:26.079 they still are pretty dang good. It appears that they're kind of bottom left 00:13:23.839 --> 00:13:30.160 heavy. This amount of circle error is definitely within the realm of very 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:33.680 good. Well, let's play a game. All right, we're playing one of my favorite 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:36.880 games of all time, Psychonauts 2. Uh, just to get a general feel of the 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:41.440 controller before we get into the specifics of the specific features. 00:13:38.959 --> 00:13:45.600 These sticks feel absolutely phenomenal. They're rubberized in the right way. Uh, 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:50.480 Fly Gigi claims they're the first alloy adjustable tension sticks. I don't know 00:13:48.079 --> 00:13:54.880 what the alloy means. I'm guessing it's just, you know, there's multiple 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:59.839 materials in the stick, so that makes it an alloy. But in terms of real use, this 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:04.480 feels freaking fantastic. Fantastics. 00:14:01.920 --> 00:14:07.040 Face buttons are nice. Uh, clicky feels a little weird to me on a platformer 00:14:05.839 --> 00:14:10.639 like this, but this is going to be a preference thing. 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:14.240 These bumpers and triggers feel amazing right now. I think the resistance point 00:14:12.880 --> 00:14:20.399 is a little too early. So, I'm going to go mess with my software. I've set it to 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:25.519 regular mode, which allows the game to control the resistance, and that makes 00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:29.680 it's just regular triggers. These feel very solid. They're very good baseline 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:33.600 triggers. So, this controller has passing the first test, which is kind of 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:38.959 just a general all round. This would be a great controller to play Psychonauts 2 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:42.800 or any 3D platformer with. Let's try the next thing. One thing of note is that 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:46.560 because I've enabled the Dual Sense mode in the software, I think that the 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:50.720 computer thinks this is a Dual Sense. And so, I'm getting PlayStation button prompts. Not a big deal. I'm used to 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:58.959 playing on PlayStation, so I know what they mean. The resistance feels kind of light uh as a default setting. It's 00:14:55.760 --> 00:15:01.199 there, but it's not as heavy as I think 00:14:58.959 --> 00:15:06.320 I'd want. That being said, it's a it's a competitive game, so it makes sense. My 00:15:04.079 --> 00:15:10.000 immediate reaction in this game is uh this is the best controller I've ever 00:15:07.920 --> 00:15:15.279 used in a shooter. I'm normally a mouse and keyboard guy. Uh, I can definitely 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:17.199 play controller games just fine, but the 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:23.839 way this feels in the hand, the way the sticks uh resist, the way that the 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:26.560 triggers feel, this is about as good as 00:15:23.839 --> 00:15:31.199 a controller as I think has ever been made. This is an extraordinary 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:34.720 experience. Yeah, input latency feels spot-on. Uh, based on our testing from 00:15:33.199 --> 00:15:38.959 the Labs, this is up there with some of the best. not the absolute top uh but 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:42.480 well within the realm of very competitive controllers in this game. 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:46.880 The clicky buttons feel much more at home. It feels like it makes a lot more 00:15:44.079 --> 00:15:50.480 sense to have it be uh mechanical style here. I made the joke before starting 00:15:48.880 --> 00:15:54.880 this video that I'm never going back to first party controllers. I don't think 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:59.279 it's much of a joke. Like these are so superior than even the expensive 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:03.759 PlayStation and Xbox controllers. Like I would pick this a 100 times out of 100 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:08.399 over an Xbox Elite. I guess unless I'm playing on an Xbox console. This can't 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.680 currently be used on either console. Uh although it can be used on Switch, which 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:14.639 is nifty, although it has to be in dock mode because you need the USB dongle in 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:19.839 there. I didn't even talk about like how the shape is basically just an Xbox shape overall. If you're used to an Xbox 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:23.120 controller and you like the shape uh and you play lots of shooters, uh let me 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.560 tell you, I've got a way better controller to sell you. I've actually 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:30.000 been surprised uh based on like the feedback from our last video how many 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.959 people really don't like asymmetrical stick layout. So, I think that's going 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:36.000 to be a preference thing. And so this isn't necessarily the ultimate 00:16:34.560 --> 00:16:40.240 controller for everyone, but if you're used to asymmetrical sticks or willing 00:16:37.920 --> 00:16:44.160 to sacrifice a little bit of that, you know, hand shape. I haven't even talked 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:47.279 about the back paddles. I'm not a huge user of back paddles, but these feel 00:16:45.839 --> 00:16:51.199 really nice. They're very clicky, very responsive, but not so light that you 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:55.199 would accidentally press them, and they sit in a very good spot. You got to give 00:16:53.199 --> 00:17:00.800 it up to Fly Digi. They know how to make one hell of a controller. I think the 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:06.559 one big downside is to get all those features. uh including a 1500 milliamp 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:10.400 battery inside of this package. 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:12.400 Ah, it's not cheap. It's $160. 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:16.400 That's definitely more than I am in the habit of spending on a controller. 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:22.319 However, I think if these features like adaptive triggers and the screen and uh 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:24.559 the t stick tension matters to you, it's 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:28.559 pretty easy to justify the complete package even at that price. And if that 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:34.000 is too expensive for you, I've got great news for you. Just the best news. Fly 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.240 Digi makes two other controllers that 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:40.480 are very, very good as well. We've got the Vader 4, which is the step down at 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:43.840 $80. It has a lot of the same features, no adaptive triggers, but it does have 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:48.080 the trigger stops that I actually think I prefer if I'm exclusively playing 00:17:45.600 --> 00:17:52.640 competitive games. Uh, it has the stick tension, which is amazing, and it's 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:55.840 actually a better implementation IMO because you can do it without taking the 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.679 face plate off. You just spin these dials, and it changes the tension. Let's 00:17:57.919 --> 00:18:04.799 go all the way to the max. And these sticks, they still feel amazing. These 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:07.840 triggers, too. Face buttons feel good, huh, I actually think I like the face 00:18:06.080 --> 00:18:11.600 buttons on the Vader more. And there's also two extra face buttons, which is 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:16.240 pretty nifty. So, 80 bucks, you got the Vader. And then at 50 bucks, you have 00:18:13.600 --> 00:18:20.160 the Direwolf 3, which is another very good controller. A little more price 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:24.320 conscientious. This one's a very solid alternative to an Xbox controller as 00:18:21.919 --> 00:18:27.840 Hall effect sticks as well. Uh, so that reliability should be better longterm 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:32.320 and back paddles. Otherwise, it's very similar to an Xbox controller, if not 00:18:29.679 --> 00:18:36.799 just slightly better. And all three of them are really good options. The best 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:41.840 one is the most expensive one. Uh, and I can without reservation recommend this 00:18:39.679 --> 00:18:46.160 thing. It is awesome and the best controller for a shooter I've ever used. 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:50.720 I am going to start saving my pennies up for one of these. Maybe save half the 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.760 pennies and get a Vader 4. I don't know. You tell me in the comments which one I 00:18:52.320 --> 00:18:57.760 should go for. Just like I'm going to tell you that this video is over. Thank you so much for watching ShortCircuit. 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:03.120 If you like this video, why don't you check out my recent unboxing of the Turtle Beach Stealth Pivot?